Vee says goodbye... | FFXIV Endwalker spoilers

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Vee says goodbye to Elpis, the past, and Hydaelyn, and witnesses Hydaelyn's memory of the Calamity. Heavy Endwalker MSQ spoilers ahead!
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@MomsDen 2 года назад

Vee's entire MSQ journey so far: ru-vid.com/group/PLyI4gGxWdqG72DPLCcqpT4GaQOWCaDEWH More of Vee's FFXIV reactions: ru-vid.com/group/PLyI4gGxWdqG6uUnoYHppOLAXSM2Pd4qmJ

@mihaicasator4221 2 года назад

The lyrics to Answers are so much more powerful now, 10 year old song brought into full meaning only now

@MomsDen 2 года назад

I just listened to it again, as it didn't make sense before... And I see this game with a different pair of eyes 👀

@ChandaniAranka 2 года назад

Ive never been good at lyrics and their meaning how the song means now than at ARR :/

@ettibbet5493 2 года назад

Funnily enough there was a arr era theory that it was about the ascians

@PetarBladeStrok 2 года назад

Personally, the best cutscene I've ever seen in all of gaming. It speaks the true hardships of being human and all we have to endure in our lives despite it. It made me bawl my eyes out...

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Same! I honestly didn't realize just how good it was until I saw so many people discussing it first thing after finishing the MSQ. Definitely one of my favorite ones to this day! 😭❤️

@bursky09 2 года назад

14:00 Zodiark was already summoned, the scene is depicting the 3rd sacrifice attempt where they're going to use the new born life to bring back the previously sacrificed ancients. They just didn't use a different backdrop for it.

@Krescentwolf 2 года назад

Yup. The whole part of Venat in Amaurot is largely symbolic in nature. You can tell because of how it stitches together several totally separate events. The first one, where she walks past a guy who gets eaten represents the initial hell of the first Final Days. The second scene with Emet and Hythlo represents the summoning of Zodiark. We know this since Hythlo was confirmed earlier to have been among the sacrifices. The scene with Hermes represents when they decided to sacrifice MORE Ancients to restore the natural order. The last scene where Venat tries and fails to admonish the remaining Ancients straight shows us at this point Zodiark already exist. It's there to represent Venat initially becoming Hydaelyn, and stopping her people from continuing to sacrifice even more. The following scenes in the hallway of darkness are pretty self explanatory.

@sawyer3244 2 года назад

Pretty sure this was the first sacrifice since the world is still broken, like the first sacrifice brought balance, the second nature and the last that never happened was supposed to bring back those who were sacrificed

@perrydunetz882 2 года назад

Nope, it’s the first, because we see hythlodeus and he was part of the first sacrifice, then theirs a flash forward and we see the second

@TarossBlackburn 2 года назад

Zodiark was only summoned once. Primals stay unless they dissipate themselves voluntarily, get beaten back into Aether or are dismissed by their summoners. The thirteen leftover members of the Convocation were pretty much hopelessly Tempered; although they would not have noticed this as there would be no precedence to a summoning at this scale and no creation would likely have been strong enough to impair the summoners aether. What we see is a general timeline of events and memories by an untrustworthy narrator. For Venat this all happened tens of thousands of years ago as well, and once she gave her essence to become the Heart of Hydaelyn, her perception would likely be slightly skewed. I believe what we see is indeed her interpretation of people just constantly throwing their life at Zodiark in despair to bring back what they lost. Inadvertantly allowing Meteion to win anyway. This could be the second sacrifice to kickstart the Aether again, or even further offerings along the way.

@perrydunetz882 2 года назад

@@TarossBlackburn zodiark was only summoned once but lives were sacrificed to him twice, once to summon him once to restore amurot

@Duskaria 2 года назад

I love how when Venat tells them "No" the music changes from "Answers" to "From the Ashes", the Theme of Phoenix

@MomsDen 2 года назад

That's so subtle, but effective! I love it.

@drewmalekith4614 2 года назад

Zodiark came before, that was Venat not hydaelyn, then she became hydaelyn and sundered all before they could sacrifice more of their kind to zodiark to revert things

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Ohh I see. Thank you! 🤗

@drewmalekith4614 2 года назад

@@MomsDen it’s easy to mix up timelines when u go through it all at once, glad I could help clarify

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Oh definitely! I spend a lot of time in Journey's End, rewatching old cutscenes and letting it all sink in. I started in May this year and it's been a bit overwhelming, but I think I'm catching up 😅

@acgearsandarms1343 2 года назад

A lot of the final cutscene is not in line with the sequence of events as we know it. For one example, Venat, Hythlodaeus, Emet-Selch and Hermes are massless in public. Major social taboo. It’s definitely meant to be symbolic, but no less enjoyable to watch. Venat had people to side with her and create Hydaelyn. It’s not a memory necessarily, but representative of the struggle on her side through the ages.

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Thanks for your take on it! I appreciate it.

@sawyer3244 2 года назад

Venat was not Hydaelyn yet in this cutscene, you're absolutely right by saying she came after, this cutscene is her talking about the things that happened after this cutscene and then we see a little sundering of those guys, but in 5.2 you get a cutscene with her and her people about to create Hydaelyn, is the same cutscene were we are told elidibus is the heart of Zodiark, so it's clear that this was not the full sundering in her Hydaelyn form.

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Ah yes I remember. Thank you! I love how these pieces all come together in Endwalker. What a beautiful way to finish a saga.

@castoputa 2 года назад

This is the first time in the game that we see what actually happened instead of a representation of a memory of what happened. A literal Revelation!

@MomsDen 2 года назад

It was such a powerful moment that completely devastated me 😭 but made the story so much better and more enjoyable to go through. How crazy is that?!

@zhebanelm1755 2 года назад

Technically, this scene is an allegory of what happened. It's a visual depiction of a series of events that happened over a longer period of time.

@bladelazoe 10 месяцев назад

Yea, not many games do stuff like this where not only do you get glimpses of the past but also get to see how everything unfolded.

@sanitarycockroach9038 2 года назад

Light Everlasting

@1jidion 2 года назад

theres a time skip in the cutscene, between shrouding the star in aether, and when she approaches the ancients sacrificing to zodiark (thats the 2nd time)

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Yeah it felt like it but I wasn't sure when I watched it the first time. I love revisiting these moments in the Journey's End for reflection!

@1jidion 2 года назад

@@MomsDen me too

@perrydunetz882 2 года назад

Hydaelin did come after zodiark, but venat wasn’t always hydaelin

@MomsDen 2 года назад

Yeah makes sense! 🤗

@DekkarJr 2 года назад

Are they really tall because their civilization was on the moon with low gravity?

@Wesley76515 2 года назад

No. They're not on the moon. The moon was created by Headlyn, after the sundering.

@dariusd2003 2 года назад

I took it they were the original beings in all of their elegance and grandeur. Being that we're merely reflections and sundered souls, we're tiny in that regard.

@wontononionslicer1004 2 года назад

maybe all those sacrificed to summon hydaelyn are those in our age those who has the awoken echo naturally. And don't forget Azem was part of 14 that refused to summon zodiark, and maybe sacrificed to Venat instead.

@FatuaFleur 2 года назад

This doesn't make sense. The Warrior of Light is sundered Azem, been mentioned a couple of times. If Azem was sacrificed to Venat that would mean there is no Warrior of Light.

@atomos100 2 года назад

Nope. Azem was opposed to summoning Hydaelyn too..

@TarossBlackburn 2 года назад

If you recall the meeting with the shade of Hythlodaeus... - Zodiark was summoned to end the Final Days; this cost about half of the Etheirians left. - Zodiark then received further sacrifice to revitalize the world so life could grow again; this cost about another third. - After that they set to repopulating the world with life again. Most likely using their amazing lifespan to put in new creatures and plants and all that stuff. The Convocation -now pretty much the Ascians- would decide to take all that life full of aether and exchange that with Zodiark to get the souls of their own people back. - Not until after that point did Hydaelyn come along and sunder the world. At this point there would be a large number of Etheirians still alive AND a great number of souls belonging to this new life/new people. Everyone got sundered and everyone got thrown into the mixing pot of Lifestream (Apart from the three we know). Taking that, it's my belief that those who awaken the Echo are the ones who used to be Ancient Etheirians. And those who don't but do feel the recollection of loss (like we saw back on the First) may be sundered souls of the 'new people'.

@michalzaprt5602 2 года назад

Dang it, love this cutscene. I would recommend trying it with japanese voice acting, I find it even more impactful, although that is mainly a matter of opinion.

@MomsDen 2 года назад

I watched the JP version and cried like a baby. 😭

@michalzaprt5602 2 года назад

@@MomsDen Yup, I really think that the JP voice has stronger impact :)