Vegan VS InfoWars (FULL DEBATE - DELETED BY FACEBOOK!) 

by "support" do you mean financial support? because for some of us, the differnce of a vegan only diet from a non vegan one could mean hundreds of dollars per month, if YOU so firmly bee-leave in vee-gin-izm, wood yoo bee sew wyl ing two poot yir muhn e wayr yir mowlth iz?

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080 A vegan diet can actually be one of the cheapest ways to eat ever. Delicious as well it's simple. What's expensive is fancy mock products that are not a necessity.

@@shihigh4027 OK so what is a necessity to get then? at the store the vegan bacon-replacement is like 4 dollars for a little pack, are there other vegan products that are better?

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080 Well whole foods is the best start. Bananas, potatoes, grains, legumes are some of the cheapest food on the planet and so is tofu. As far are replacements it shouldn't cost to much because it should always be a side dish not the bulk if that makes sence. And of course remember investing in you'r health should be a priority and it really is rewarding. I'd say get what you crave but focus your shift on health go to farmers market's, you won't regret it. I hope that helps, and field roast vegan sausages are real good.

Dude you are kick ass! My gf and I are vegan because of you!

Mighty suspect. When any of these infowars goons talk about globalism, they invariably mean "the jews". Forget veganism, she makes me want to go cannibal and grind them all up into hot dogs just so I could rid the world of their cancer. .

@@tijuanaforeplay8232 Hahaha

Yeah. And meat is massively internationally distributed. She’s a moron.

Have you any idea what is going on with the avocado. Drought and death trying to produce this plant and they still can not keep up with the demand .its extremely hard to grow and they takes a unbelievable amount of water to grow hence the droughts and human beings are dying to produce avocados

@@shanemccormack8603 look into the production of animals. I'm sure you'll find it way more concerning than avocados.

Reporter: "I've done a lot of research into veganism, it's not sustainable while eating meat is and it's unhealthy."

An you can see where she’s getting her info from. From the war. Got it? InfoWars 🤣

@@Tofusoldat that was so stupid but i laughed. good job dude

@@megaloblabber2948 Flat jokes against flat minded people.

She obviously had not done a lot of research on veganism. Had that been the case she would've known she was about to get owned on the most kind and gentle way possible

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"I have done a lot of research" is InfoWars speak for I just pulled this out of my ass and it has absolutely no basis in mutually observable reality.

Omg she looks like a fool.

@@pagochu1 Iam sure she has, but with the intention to discredit it. Ed is good at making arguments, but she is also good, but not as good as him.

Thats the way any flat earther, hardcore christian, one eyed supporter thinks. Theyre not looking to make a 'sound' argument that lands in any credible way, theyre just trying all arguments they have to find the one thing that you dont have thought out answer for the top of your head to get a 'gotcha' moment.

He destroyed nothing, research states that eliminating meat from your diet isn't healthier, humans and animals aren't the same , he needs to stop giving human examples when talking about animals, he literally said he would be ok killing a child but stands outside defending pigs lol complete joke, if you're trying to win over a Christian at least read the Bible first, God said Christian can eat meat, God is merciful but also destructive, please do not think he's this nice God and he never gives punishment

The problem is she isn't really listening to him. She has a list of talking points and even when he shuts them down she just ends up circling back to it later on.

@@JHL751 It can be healthier as long as you do it properly. The tricky part of a vegan diet is that you need to really pay attention to what you're eating. You need to make sure you're eating foods containing stuff like fatty acids and all the proper amino acids. You can still get all the basic building blocks through vegan diet

@@kramer450 that's false, she responded exactly

It's infowars. You can't expect anything positive from their reporters

She had no chance lol....

I can't stand how she interrupts him so much. He's one patient dude to allow someone like her to constantly interrupt him. Like, set some ground rules and let one person finish speaking. If you have something you want to address, find a way to memorize it first.

This was a great interview and debate

@Aline she's paid for winning points she presents, so clips of those can be used later, so by interrupting she doesn't let him finish disproving her points and adds new points favoring her arguments.

This is mostly what InfoWars do. I think some of the people commenting here are mistakenly assuming that "she" is doing that, that "she" is maniputalive, or "she" is shifting from topics because "she" cant argue the points. Its not just that, its cause its InfoWars that's what they are *trained* to do. They try to overwhelm the person with so many question, jumping from one topic to another, until they can do the "gotcha" moment, because the majority of people (even if they are right on their beliefs) are not preapred to deal with such an approach and they can make those people look stupid to disbelief their cause. That's why they eventually delete this type of videos from their pages/channels, cause it doesn't suit their agenda.

@@MikaelLima2210 thank yu for this! I was about to pass an hatred comment on her b4 reading this

She not listening to his answers - she's got so many questions to remember she has them on repeat going through her head so as not to forget. I'm kind of impressed she didn't need them written down.

@@MikaelLima2210 Exactly! But unfortunately for them, their propaganda lessons failed infront the Titan Ed!

"BUT WHAT ABOUT TRIBES"

That's globalization not globalism.

Hehe also she keeps trying to trap him into saying it, so they can sell it with a headline

@@SorceressWitch *NAZIS NAZIS NAZIS EVERYWHERE*

She's just making it a decent conversation, stupid triggered jerks!

@Berserker Fate Not its not muppet well done you played yourself

😂😂😂😂 One of the best comments in this vid 👏👏

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LMAOOO

Lmao

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I’m on the reporters side in this conversation

Yes, she's a pain in the butt and all her blah blah is a waste of time.

I totally agree. Ed is polite as allways, the woman doesn't even hear him out.

​@@maxmcintyre5068Thank you for the warning.

It’s called a debate

I’d love for you to come on my podcast, vegan or not.

It's been a year since you wrote this comment. Hope that you've succeed in switching to veganism and will keep up with this awesome lifestyle forever ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 love you 🌈🌱🫂

@xuân nhật oh my gosh you're too sweet. We did it!! We just celebrated a year a few days ago! It changed our whole life!! Thank you!!

@@emma-vy3qk oh dear you make my day 😆😆😆 people like you light up this World 🌏🌱

@@emma-vy3qk absolutely wonderful. Well done. Courageous and compassionate people 💚

Watch his other vids 👀

He cracked on the last part when they talked about abortion, he keeps contradicting himself on what is moral he said it's immoral to kill pigs but okay to abort babies, he also keeps contradicting himself on defining intelligence and consciousness he said fetus are unintelligent life form so should we kill unintelligent animals too may it be in a form fetus or newborns? And he keeps saying consuming animal is immoral because it's unnecessary when he agreed ealier that raising crops is unsustainable on several parts of the world, so is it really unnecessary or not? She also lectured him about the difference of growth and development of species because a 3 year old human is not the same with a 3 year old pig and that's so unintelligible and rude of him to make such a flawed statement. I don't see intelligence in him and people like you who follow him on this are simply confused.

@@blackmarlin3166 true but you can only get an abortion up to 16 weeks ish a fetus doesn’t feel pain till past 23ish

He could speak to me(I’m non vegan) and I still wouldn’t become a vegan

@@rach250 🧢

And vegans don't.......

Christians are good at that, they’re experts in circular reasoning

Did you not hear him repeat himself?

@@caleblebeau3301 not this time no but I bet if I look through his uploads it will all be same story repeated under different title. Ps this is my opinion if you don't like it don't reply

@Ratikant Sharma I get everything vegans have to fight for but some of the things you do is ridiculous I get animals shouldn't suffer and from a vegans point no animal should die needlessly but there are insects that most vegans kill on a daily basis without knowing I know it sounds stupid but some insects have a nervous system and probably can feel empathy and sadness all the things that come with a brain which some insects do have and harvesting crops insects die ie when fields are plowed they die through people driving cars from and the polution from them and planes, reforestation which you will use something which a animal died for no good reason i bet there are more innocent creatures that die for no reason but from a vegan there is no mention of that, all life should be precious in my eyes. i dont eat meat as a luxury like most do I have very little meat in my diet, from my point of view it looks like vegan are mostly rich kids but I could be wrong on that. Ps I don't want to get into another online debate it's my opinion and I know yours I respect it i wasn't saying meat eaters don't repeat themselves I would be wrong do you get me now as my name is thetruth I like to know both sides of every argument. But we do come from this earth as the animals do we all evolved some kill some don't who has the right to say what anybody or anything does is right or wrong your faith may decide or you might be blind but what I say is who has right and who doesn't are we all not eqaul to ourselves?

good for you!

Benny! :)

That's the same that vegans say about eating meat

jøker did u listen to all of his reasons how the farmland would be better used if everyone was vegan. He’s a actually giving reasons unlike most meat eaters like you who don’t even listen to our side of our argument.

@@flaccidpancake1403 And you don't listen to ours. Eating meat jas been around for ever and it is still here today. Doesn't that mean that it's sustainable?

@@jker4592 question then becomes whether that was the question or not

@@whatiswrongwiththeworld8451 what do you think the questio is?

She used logic and reason, good debate.

@@zarelli7831 it wasn’t a debate.. she was just talking at him and not listening

Yeah this always make me laugh too: they always say the same identical things

Actually it's the other way around eating meat has been around forever it is veganism that is new, meat-eaters like me already have all the arguments in the world ages before this idea of veganism was even born all your vegan arguments were formulated yesterday. You think you are more prepared against non-vegans well you're wrong you're the ones who are catching up to us.

@@blackmarlin3166 new or recent doesn’t mean inferior or wrong

Hahahaha bro so much deja vu in this video

And doing it so calmly too. I could not keep my cool like that I would get so frustrated. But I guess that's a tactic that interviewers do, to make you mad enough so you quit the debate.

if it were me... ow god i would be eating thoose breasts HUMANELY so i could show her if theres a difference xD

Casmo Nautilus I was thinking the same exact thing. This woman is so thick I almost couldn't even finish the video just because of her

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so you can't be prochoice?

@@gregjordan4165 read again.

Who is the arbiter of what is necessary?

@@sjsuismylife Science.

@@sjsuismylife Facts. Definitions. Other words for "unnecessary" are: needless, gratuitous, non-essential, uncalled-for - So if you follow the facts that Vitamin B12 is the only thing *really* lacking in a vegan diet (which can be supplemented, gradual change and all), it is by definition and fact uncalled-for and non-essential to breed and eat animals. And that does not even take into account smaller shifts to less consumption and vegetarianism. As a meat eater myself, that will now finally commit to a change I find it disgusting how many meat eaters go out of there way to argue even against a small change. There is no basis for argument, other than the conclusion that these people value their tastebuds over conscious life and suffering of it.

michaelscoots Gary yourofsky is such a legend

@michaelscoots The 'InfoWar' is real though.

No he didn't, he just put his points of view out there, that's fine but he didn't make a good case for veganism at all.

@@outsideworld76 i disagree, he treated here with a huge level of respect and had great arguments against every point she made.

@@ami0271 sure it was a civil conversation nothing wrong with that. But he didn't make a good case for veganism. Especially the manure issue, caddle is by far the best remedy against desertification. Take any dusty dry piece of land, put caddle on it and see the plants return. Humans are part of nature, any attempt on an industrial scale to modify nature for the benefit of man is a dead end. We always ate meat and always will do so in the future. Veganism is a man made ideology with no fundamentals in nature. Humans are not herbivores. Even cows life of the produce of bacteria in their gut. The human gut can't do that conversion at all.

@@outsideworld76 This is where you and i disagree :P You are on a vegan channel, do some research on it.

@@ami0271 So the channel I'm on changes the fact right? Caddle is pure nature, what Ed suggests is using artifical ways to fertilize the land, how natural. The problem with veganism is that it's a man made ideology it has no base in nature. Let that sink in, veganism is unnatural and you need unnatural supplements to maintain health.

@TJ No. She had constant holes in her argument, she basically kept repeating the same thing over and over again and kept talking to drain out Ed's responses because she knew her arguments were faulty. She also stated one outdated study about omnivorous diets being the most sustainable. The most recent studies state that vegan diets are the most sustainable: www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/03/16/1523119113.full

ur a vegan, so u only eat grains, bananas and papaya >:(

@@peaches_andbtches and avocados don't forget the avocados and quinoa

She talks agriculture as if we suddenly switched to an entirely plant based diet. She doesn't realize that the settling down in one place and growing of crops also facilitated animal agriculture.

Yup. There are lots of very strong herbivores. Hippos for example... but every animal has a species specific diet. Humans are omnivore.

@@tanner4574 Nope, that’s inaccurate.

Matt Sapero Agree to disagree. But I believe we are predators in a sense. We have a vast history of hunting. Was that all social programming?

@@tanner4574 Do some research and you’ll learn that very few calories were contributed by hunting versus gathering.

Just enjoy the collection of thos, as if you do of stamps or something, that are all fueled exclusively by the greed for meats. Thos are scabs of their visceral greed. Interesting in a way.

She comes from the masons , what was you expecting, I would have nail it but Ed thought she could turn her , impossible, she's being paid for this

No he has no energy that’s not patience that’s Mal nutrition

Seriously she brought up dinosaurs!

@@Breathe618 right 😂😂😂

Luke Owen yeah

Literally took the mic away from him every single time! I was getting stressed out looking at her

Yessss so disrespectful 😡

i slowly got more and more pissed at how she never let him finish and yet he listens and answers her EVERY STATEMENT

PantoMath she doesn’t do it anymore relax guys. The vegan was cool but imma eat meat anyway.

Meat is my only diet... can't resist the health and mental clarity it gives me...amazing

@@constantinclipa1360 Plants is my only diet... can't resist the health and mental clarity it gives me...amazing.

@@gamingdiscipline5425 I really doubt that soy keeps your mind in the right place..I bet my wages you have no moral character

@@constantinclipa1360 I really doubt that meat keeps your mind in the right place..I bet my wages you have no moral character

@@gamingdiscipline5425 you just proved a point.

She didn’t get smoked😂😂

@@caleblebeau3301 yea no, no she definitely did.

@@saltyitalianguy3243 Not at all. The massive global system is not already in place for the world to go vegan. Yet, vegans believe it is. The amount of international trade that has to take place and the arable land that must be converted will create an economic catastrophe. The container shipping industry is one of the oldest industries on earth and is extremely resistant to change for a plethora of reasons. And the amount of time, money, negotiation, and man hours required for a vegan world won't be tolerated by these businessmen and businesswomen because there's less money to be made, amongst many other factors.

J J exactly, veganism has NOTHING to do with politics

yeah i just made a similar comment vegans arent SJWs

There's nothing wrong with globalization, it means freedom, peace and multiculturalism. We have never been as peaceful and closer to end hunger in our planet since globalization started. We already know how it's to live in a non globalized world, we've been there for thousands of years.

J J Me: Hey I’m a vegan. InfoWars: Sorry but that’s globalist cultural marxism/leftism, libtard. Communism has killed like ten trillion people. 😎

@@clorox1676 Globalism is Marxism, it has never worked. Hunger isn't a problem at all, it's just we keep importing other countries and ignore it, thus we have to feed more people. Globalism is the result of a failing Country.

not even 'sis', her 'sis' card has been revoked indefinitely.

yeah but did YOU know it? That's the point of the camera genius....

I don't think she knew

The One thats SEXIST! YOU’RE PROBABLY A WHITE MALE

Yeah but did YOU know *insert complete fabrication*? Huh, did you? No? Didn't think so!

The Bible, thooooo, advocates for a vegan diet... Gen. 1:29, and many more

"And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the LORD, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt: therefore the LORD will give you flesh, and ye shall eat."

I know some verses even imply that we should be consuming a Vegan diet !! These religious people cherry pick until the cows come home lol😂

I'm not religious, I was just playing devil's advocate and being difficult. I don't think the Bible can justify anything irregardless.

I know , I am not religious either but sometimes you have to know some stupid bible verses just to prove your point to these close minded religious people haha

Fionn Fooles when you know veganism is unbeatable you can just relax and debate

if you lose your patience and show negative emotion, you lose credibility .. this is why he is effective, just as MLK, ghandi, etc the crazed vegans (the minority of vegans) are completely ineffective.. and they are the ones that end up in the main stream media that the brainwashed/masses eat up

No it's normal, most vegans you see in the media are annoying screaming lunatics. Ed is a refreshment, finally a vegan who can conduct a civil discussion without losing his shit. I'm not a vegan but I subbed to his channel.

I know. I respect his patience so much. I often end up getting emotional.

So was his with abortion!

its actually "it wouldnt be possible, so no."

@@ohoalaladoobadielada except that's wrong

Koro Muffin watch the vid

@@ohoalaladoobadielada I'm saying that it is possible not that she didn't say it's not

Hers is called bad journalism (propaganda).

Because... shes a journalist. She asks questions lol

To be fair - as crap as Info Wars are, the job of journalists is to ask questions. As long as they aren't totally idiotic then it's fair. This view that the interviewer/interviewee dynamic should be a two way fiery debate is very modern American. Shock TV stuff. It's all a bit silly.

This was no debate, she destroyed every one of his “feelings” derived notions with facts.

Answer a question with a question is the perfect way to avoid actually responding

Lefttard’s worse nightmare if she ACTUALLY let him talk, ACTUALLY LISTENED to him, if she didn’t remove the mic from him to change the topic then it would be a real debate. She’s clearly not interested in a debate.

Puud the Vegan Yep, that's why she keeps shifting the conversation after he refutes her arguments. She's just trying to catch him out so they can develop the usual 'snowflake vegan libtard leftie' narrative. She's not interested in having a constructive conversation, unfortunately.

I think so.

she must be, because she moves the goal line after he destroys her arguments

She has no fucking clue what she is talking about: We weren't "larger, taller", and as Hunter-Gatherers, more of our diet was on average plant-based than it is now (Stop using the Eskimo exception rule as the norm: Most of humanity doesn't live in the Arctic Circle.). Any Anthropologist could call her out and tell her she is full of shit.

That's when I dig in 😁

Human rights are their own religion. There exist no objectively good reasons for any idea and a subjective opinion therefore shouldn't matter.

religion can be good, but all things are subject to corruption..

Veganism is a religion.. it's a morality issue for them.

@@ivorenesmith9003 who or what is the vegan God?

My blood pressure is through the roof and I’m not even Vegan

Thats what good journalists do they challenge your ideas and positions. He did very well.

@@1999_reborn you realize vegans have lower blood pressure...?so this statement makes no sense.

Do vegans want to abolish meat eating carnivorous animals as well?

@@toughtalk747 are you being serious!?

Apparently, only vegans are eating avocados. Just vegans. no one else.

I don’t even like Papayas 🤣 plant based eaters have a diverse cuisine, whereas meat eating is just few meals

And bananas and mangos

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Made me realize I can't remember the last time I ate a papaya.

yeah she came in ready to go

Thats what an activists is doing. Stoicly repeating the same answers hearing the almost same questions over and over again. And the art is to catch the opponents attention to agree or think about solutions.

he actually didn't answer her points. He just said regarding the fecies of animals "We can figure it out & itlll be a gradual process". That's not an answer

​@@juliannewman8720 stay mad 😂

@@juliannewman8720 so u picked up one thing? Also that isn’t all he said. And even if it was, it IS answer to admit we don’t know everything yet. But that’s not what was said. U have picked out one sentence and concluded “he didn’t answer her questions” how incredibly stupid

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the "well the dinosaurs produced more methane bc they were big" was my favourite

@@penelopeandpriscillaaregay1712 absolutely on god 💀

Ed Winters is the saint of veganism.

Dumb girl just keeps asking the same stupid questions again and again. Bless Ed and his unlimited patience to explain to the simpletons.

Im from a tropical country...and I don't seriously remember the last i consumed a mango or papaya..

@@swati0710 HAHA citrus fruits mess with me. They make my body inflamed. No thank you to citrus!

A mango a day keeps death away

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It's common knowledge that the best and only replacement for dietary meat is tropical fruits.

Yes. I was STUNNED that she had NO IDEA that the most populous areas are vegetarian. You can feed many more humans that way. If you want to talk about population control, keep things going the way they are and wait for the climate crisis and see how many are killed. Did you notice that she stupidly claimed that the DINOSAURS created more Methane Gas??? Yes, and they are ALL DEAD! I felt sorry for her.

Veganism is indeed a developed world luxury. If you disagree present the facts please.

@@peterhagtharp4263 It takes more effort to produce animal flesh than plants because we grow both plants (to feed animals) and actual animals. Instead it is easy for us to directly feed on plants which is cheaper. This is a simple way to contradict your statement. Here is a study you can go through: www.pnas.org/content/115/15/3804. Isn't it obvious that growing animals is expensive?

@@shad7214 If they are feeding the animals human inedible food and just getting by from malnutrition (starving or lack of nutrients such as B12), then they can't go vegan. These people are also eating animals very rarely and not torturing them for profit/production. They are not eating meat in excess for pleasure only as in the West. Going vegan is only possible if you have access to legumes, B12, and not scraping by starvation. When this isn't the case, that is when it is unnecessary harm and thus unethical. My source that indicates third world countries experience malnourishment: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180662/#:~:text=Apart%20from%20marasmus%20and%20kwashiorkor,unites%20into%20a%20vicious%20circle.

@@peterhagtharp4263 Can you answer me this question? What is the point in citing this study here? I said animal farming is expensive compared to plants and you cite a malnutrition study. But anyways, As the paper you cited states, agriculture needs to be improved in that specific areas to feed them. May be plant agriculture might be cheaper. Also, go through this link, it talks about animal agriculture and world hunger. It might answer your above comment if I understand your comment correctly. www.forksoverknives.com/wellness/animal-agriculture-hunger-and-how-to-feed-a-growing-global-population-part-one-of-two/ .

That’s one of the biggest problems of a capitalist society.

Hahahah absolutely. You can never educate anyone about anything that is contrary to their salary. 😂😂😂

Absolutely agree; Ed clearly loses but somehow makes it seem - through 'compassion' based platitudes - that he scrapes a dignified draw. Amazing technique from the young man.

Yes, loses, as judged by me.

Daveit - it is my opinion/interpretation, opinions/interpretations cannot be wrong.

I do see how this works. Opinions/interpretations are based on a person's unique mind and therefore cannot be wrong even if that opinion/interpretation is unpopular/undesirable. Facts are different, facts can be wrong.

I will stand by that 'clearly loses' proclamation. Ed did not convince her to go vegan. He did not convince her that he was living life the right way. Millie was able to repel or deflect most, if not all, of his points against meat eating. I add those things up to a loss, and a clear loss at that.

Like climate change deniers. Same tactic. Also repeating claims that have already been countered.

And there were no fabrics containing hundreds of Triceratopses in the smallest area spread around the whole world.

Funny how she said anything about dinosaurs while being a creationist 😂

Notice how she didnt get angry and they both had a proper debate. Notice how she hears what he says, allows him to talk and doesnt get stuck on one point.

@@callumhill3758 No, she hears his answer has nothing to come back against it with, so quickly moves on trying to find another point to disprove him on.

Because to admit that the way that their parents raised them was incorrect as to admit a whole host of other issues.

Literally

because it is just so tasty :) And because they are triggered by the bad ones (vegan people with bad arguments and emotions)

Wow you guys are dumb, so there's about a million worms per acre of farmland, so you want to not kill 100 cows and instead slaughter millions in order to turn it into farmland, not including the other native mammals on that land.....Holy shit you guys are really blind to your own imperfect ideas

Because look at this comment section it’s full of toxic behavior. I was a vegan when I was younger and thinking about going vegan again but the one thing I can’t stand about veganism are the people. A lot of the people are like a toxic cult. Eating meat doesn’t make you dumber, not eating meat doesn’t make you enlightened, smarter or more compassionate.

underrated comment.

@@philipphagspiel8676 totally underrated. I did a double-take because I was surprised it has only 13 upvotes

so true!

@Bea Z --hahahahaha so true

HaHaHaHa

It got on my nerves every time she interrupted him. So disrespectful!

Definitely, he is rare, focused and knocked her out with his answers

She picked the right one to ask!

I don't have that skill. But im trying mt best.

That's what I appreciate most about him. He knows his points and he can afford to be patient and allow her to interrupt. It's a sure sign of confidence from him, I feel, that he can allow it. I think I would have insisted that we stop and set some ground rules about interrupting because it's just ridiculous how she keeps trying to interrupt and assert her points and such.

Lmao

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ed makes the medium rare steak i had tonight taste better.. and she makes sense.... i litterally work on farms building grain silos...there is a rabid mice plague in australia at the moment... which is tainted all the bali, wheat and chick peas.... do we pat the on the head and say please dont come near the grain.. or poison the vermin.. or the pigs that destroy the crops... we take dogs and knives out and slaughter them.... we shoot the kangaroos... why? because it destroys your beloved crops... and its fun... grow the fuck up

@@homelessjazz7086 wtf? My guy just admitted to agreeing with that Karen that made zero sense

@@woomynation yeah, well I ain't a Karen.. I work on farms and most animals are treated as vermin.. actually need to kill them to keep the grain quality.. if that makes zero sense.. I guess all your food is grown in a supermarket buddy

It could just be because it's tied to infowars and all of the controversy around Alex Jones. I'm not saying it was right to remove it, but perhaps anything associated with info wars is being removed under hate speech policy?

Exactly

RIGHT! I was so frustrated

You change people's minds with patience

She interrupted him a lot

Its best to be peaceful , its because of the unpeaceful vegans that veganism's name is bad

Hahaha good point ☝🏻

^^

I really want to know if all of her clothing and technology was made in Ohio and if she only gets animal flesh from farmer's market.

Also, you can grow winter hardy vegetables. One of the points she was trying to make is that you can't solely rely on grains, and you cant grow tropical vegetables in Ohio, so you would have to import them, ie, globalize. But you can grow crops and veggies that are cold hardy, its just not done today, but doesn't mean it can not be done.

U r right. The right choice comes from right level of consciousness. We have the beast and angel in us. Who we nurture more determines whether we will kill other human beings out of base urges like racial prejudices, or eat animals or plants and so on. It is out the moral compass which we have in all of use by virtue of being born a human. Not the moral compass dictated and shifted by marketing sharks or twisted theologies, be it Christian or Islamic or others.

Hey don’t forget about the mangoes and bananas! We transport them one banana at a time on a Boeing 747 for maximum fuel usage. Unsustainable af.

Vegans are ALWAYS substituting tropical fruit for meat in recipes. You always see them with their banana burgers, and spaghetti with papaya balls.

@@mena376 this made me laugh out loud

Seriously so uneducated about balance of a vegan diet. 😂 She is so confident but tiptoes in waters she doesn't yet understand with the confidence her opinion is automatically the correct one. Funny to see so many of her claims contradict others she makes. She just reaches for things to try and win. But Ed doesn't resort to that because he speaks truth. Asks him for cited sources when she is equipped with none. So funny. But I hope she rethinks after this debate !

I've been to a health food shop and looked at the vegan products, bloody expensive, almost laughable. Since when your vegan advocates are hypercritical and double standard. Joey carvstrong drinking milk on his own vlog why because its a vegan farm and vegan friend running it. The good morning Britain had a female vegan on it making it clear she eats eggs, why, because she named the chicken and also again it's vegan raised. The so called healthy vegans that look anorexic and skinny, they look like holocaust victims. Speciesism as the vegans cry out yes that is what the vegans doing to the human race. Those on low incomes would have difficulty keeping up with the prices increase and the necessary nutrition required. Do the vegans care about these humans no just the animals, Speciesism.

Becuase he knows if he stood there shouting he'd look like a crackpot.

You don't need so much patience skills when you are the one busting other people's balls to change their lifestyle

It takes practice and experience lol. I’m sure he didn’t start out having this much patience.

She's going to look back on this and think.. " Ffs wasn't I a twat! "

I agree. I'd have found it difficult, as she brought up the same things just in various different ways, & he kept having to go ever them again & again. I don't envy him, it must be tiring. Anyway, amazing talk. Well done Ed

Yes the same as many times he avoided talking about vegan globalization that's because his argument is only applicable in the US and other developed countries where's there's no scarcity in land, resources and transportation of massive amount of crops locally or overseas. He was held helpless when she brought up africa which is a generic thing to do but still true anyway you can't teach veganism in developing countries with naturally bad agriculture. That's the reason why he keeps avoiding this.

@@blackmarlin3166 Correct about global agriculture. And he doesn't even understand how to devise his gradual system to do so. Nor knows the economic impact it would have.

I took a shot each time. I can thank the nearest hospital

@@blackmarlin3166 Vegan globalization is not a thing. Capitalism has created globalization not veganism. Also meat industries depend on globalization too. Nevermind that you can totally eat local fruits and veggies. You're dumb af.

@@blackmarlin3166 He was not helpless at any point. He was 100% sure as he has heard these argument a million times like all of us vegans have. Literally nothing she said is something he hasn't heard before. Veganism focuses mainly on needless animal exploitations in the West. There are no horrible meat and diary industries in Africa, and Africa has the least contribution to climate change and other types of earth destruction. People in Africa also don't eat meat as much as you think. It's a luxury many can't afford.

Just like flat Earthers do...

All of that to ultimately hide behind the irrefutable Christian church... Lol she's a tool, and a prime example of why we should definitely have the right to abortion.

She is desperately gishgalloping her way through the conversation, constantly changing because all she has is filler words, and no honest data.

@@NeverWoken So right. You can’t learn if you can’t listen.

No ones is going to change on the spot. You have to consider human psychology.

Same with a misguided idea of indigenous culture, undocumented immigrants working at farms, and animals killed for agriculture

😂😂 underated comment

What makes you think we haven't cared about third world countries all along?

@@Swan-rb4yg come to a third world country, realize how you live off our backs, and your naive, silly question will be answered

@@Swan-rb4yg american foreign policy speaks for itself mate 😅

I laughed out loud during that part of the conversation😂

Oh, aren't trolls cute.

At what minute is it? I didn't hear that

@@pedroloto lol sure you diddnt ur leftist mind was too busy thinking about how to kill ore plants

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080 I'm not vegan

Comparing dinosaurs (who farmed dinosaurs) with farming livestock for humans, pets, feeding livestock

Also there was an ice age that the earth went through which would kill nearly all humans if it happened again. So yeah the Earth is fine now after it healed, but it wasn't fine for a while.

@@jshdhdyjfjdjfhfyyene731 what she referred to was co2 being 50x higher in those days, which resulted fast growing plants that sustained huge animals

. Yea how did they end up? Perhaps they poisoned themselves from farts?

Because he's a saint. That's my only explanation.

Yeah, but the thing is... He's not interested in anything she has to say because he's convinced his opinion is the only one to have. Smugness is a SHITTY quality.

DB Jack70 she’s being way more smug

@@yashpermalla3494 She's not being smug at all -- she's just asking questions and trying to conduct a fair interview. He's arrogantly MANSPLAINING his way thru this entire conversation. I know reality must be tough for you people. Lack of protein = learning disabilities/Comprehension issues

DB Jack70 lack of protein? Are you dumb or are you dumb🤦🏾‍♀️

​@@dbjack7022 they were both convinced they were right. And up to a certain point the guy was right but then it bloils down to globalism. Do you want to be dependent on other nations fruit production to sustain a healthy diet?. Cause this raises the issiue that these countrys where fruit grows are independ and can just like oil increase the price to there economic benefit. And this would be a shift in power for south american and african nations. Where banana is the new oil cause its necesary. Objectively this would be good for the balancing of power. But at the same time not good for the perseverience of our norms since these nations while get more power and might start a war cause of diffrent reasons like revenge/religion/corruption. Thats why people are conservatives cause they dont trust there neighbours wich is understandable. Cause power is a reall thing. If iran had the same power as america there would be ww3 right now. Cause we still need to enhance the consciousness of people globaly before we can become globalists. Escpecialy the people in power in both the middle east and even in america. Also this shouldnt stop you from going vegan imo cause saving the planet comes first and then diplomacy. And there might be otherways to get the nutristions you need independitly from your own country.

Highly infuriating lol

Can sb explain why they hate globalism so much? I dont get it

@@vaelinlaornas yeah, cuz it doesn’t make sense, and neither does she 💀

We already have a global economy. I'd be willing to bet all the money in my bank account she doesn't eat 100% local food.

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First of all she interrupted him in some occasions but that's only because it's her interview and she's in control you can look up all of Ed's video where he keeps interrupting all the people he's interviewing as well. Secondly, this is actually the most flustered I've ever seen Ed because she brought so many solid points like the fertilizer and it's true plant compost are aided by animal products and he was struggling to argue with it. She also made undeniable arguments about the unreality of veganism because consuming plants have direct effects to animals and Ed can only agree with it. The point here is that there is no such thing as real veganism, plants and animals are interlinked to each other you can't say you're avoiding animal products or you're not affecting animal life in general just because you're consuming solely plant products because it's impossible.

@@blackmarlin3166 you can invalidate veganism all you want, but the fact is that killing animals needlessly destroys the planet and the lives of animals.

@@abigailpope4306 You're only saying that because it's very convenient to you right now. Veganism is a new idea you wouldn't be here making these senseless statements today if your ancestors didn't hunt and kill animals. And can you blame tribes in sub sahara africa eating bushmeat or people of nepal feeding on dairy products or polynesians surviving on aquatic life when it's all they got? Again it's convenient for you because costco is one drive away in whatever devepeloped country you're at and you can always choose whatever you want to eat because it's only a matter of living for you and not surviving.

@@blackmarlin3166 Our society is changing and developing rapidly, and we no longer need to do what our ancestors have.

Not really. If you are gonna use that argument the book of Genesis debunks that when God says that animals were put on this earth to serve us. I wouldn’t use that argument as a vegan. I would go with everything else. In the book, we are allowed to eat animals. That’s what they were put here for according to the Bible. However, it does encourage us to realize that you shouldn’t needlessly harm animals. If you absolutely don’t need animals then there is no reason to kill one for food , if you can avoid it. In this case, I would say yes. The world can, absolutely, cut their use of meat and fish down. It would be a good idea too because it would conserve a lot of resources. There is also a verse in the Bible that tells us to remember that just like animals we leave this earth the same way, so never tell yourself that you are better than them. So, it does say that animals are here to serve us, but it also encourages us not to take advantage. You know what I mean?

@@vivianagamboa2626 Well, doesn't the Bible say that a woman should serve a man and submit to him too? It's pretty much saying that a woman belongs to a man.

@@vivianagamboa2626 Uhm no. Pretty sure in the book of Genesis, it states that the animals will serve as sustenance when God flooded the whole earth because Noah and the others didn't have access to the crops of the earth. Now that the flood is over I'm pretty sure God would appreciate not killing his creations for selfish reasons when we can easily become vegan/vegetarian like Adam and Eve originally were.

@@vivianagamboa2626 The Bible also says that someguy put trillions of animals on a small ship

@@richardb4796 Ecclesiastes 3:19 for there is an outcome for humans and an outcome for animals; they all have the same outcome. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit. So man has no superiority over animals, for everything is futile. Genesis 1:26 Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 9:3 Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. Just as I gave you the green vegetation, I give them all to you. Leviticus 11:9 This is what you may eat of everything in the waters: Anything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, it you may eat. But anything in the seas and in the rivers that has no fins and scales, among all the swarming creatures and of every other living creature that is in the waters, it is a loathsome thing for you. Romans 14: 1-4 Welcome the man having weaknesses in his faith, but do not pass judgment on differing opinions. One man has faith to eat everything, but the man who is weak eats only vegetables. Let the one eating not look down on the one not eating, and let the one not eating not judge the one eating, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to judge the servant of another?

Heck yeah. I've been an animal rights activist for 3 years and if I haven't found a good argument against veganism by now, it doesn't exist. You can do it. ❤️

How's it going, did you go vegan?

If Dinosaurs are so healthy, why are they all DEAD?! Tehehe. >_>

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You was there was you ?? Are you sure they didnt kno ??

That's awesome

Fun fact, cows are actually plants.

@@fdsamatt5763 that's y they have eyes, ears, nose, skin, mouth like us.

@@nay.sen20 exactly!! You're telling me you've never noticed the beautiful eyes on a tree?

@@TylerTheObserver nope

@@TylerTheObserver Wow, you are so funny... -_-

I LITERALLY STARTED ANSWERING WHAT SHE WAS ASKING BY SAYING EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID LMAO It genuinely got me like fired up a bit because it’s like how aren’t you understanding what he’s saying?🤣

@@capbag9369 I agree with you I just finished listening to this for the third time I think, the first being when it came out I think two years ago or so, it was clearly in the summer so probably summer of 19. There is one thing I can give her that most people of her ilk do not possess is her own ability not to raise her voice, not to let emotionality take over and she lets him finish talking more than you would expect although she does interrupt. But I did notice more than not both parties wait to speak until they hear the period/full stop from the other person. The obvious thing she does that is so frustrating is that no matter how he responds to her question her next questions never reflect that or rarely reflect what he has actually answered prior. It's like she's got a list memorized in her head of questions or points to bring up and it's like she's got to stay true to it or die, lol. You have to tailor, if you are the interviewer, your subsequent Q's, really do need to reflect the A's you've been given in the moment, and hers rarely do And I think it's gotten better, most anti-vegans even if they're fundamentalist right-wing 'Christians', anti-globalism (at least she's not anti-globe, LOL) interviewing or in a debate with a vegan, no longer tend to bring up abortion. They seem to have realized that this is an exclusively human matter, and has absolutely less than nothing to do with animal liberation and being anti animal use and abuse, exploitation and slaughter industries.

I don't think so. Both sides had some valid arguments.

@@singularity6761 nah, watch it again she kept going back to points he already explained and debunked to back up her arguments

That dairy brane 🧠

And then they produce kgs of fertilizer and kgs upon kgs of milk and kgs of other materials for things we use every day.

@@Ethan-ck6iz The whole point is that we don't need milk or "other materials" produced from cows. It's unhealthy, cruel and wasteful to continue to demand these products. Do you really think that all the waste that livestock produces is used for fertilizer? Are you aware of all the lagoons of waste that these animals produce? Are you aware that these lagoons overflow and contaminate our water? Or that people have fallen into them and died? There is more poop than we know what to do with. In some states, in order to get rid of all the poop, it is misted into the air causing all the nearby residents to have serious health problems like cancer and respiratory problems.

Why is is wasteful if we consume it? Can't just keep planting soybeans over and over again to make substitutes. Everybody in my family drank lots of milk when they were little and never broke anything... Except for my little brother who didn't and he broke an arm by tripping over a sandbox. A sandbox! And I took a beating when I was little. I fell down through a hole in a barn to the ground floor And yes, I am aware of the waste these animals produce. I work on a dairy farm here in Ontario every day. And also, I have never seen or heard of a lagoon overflowing. And before you say it, in my area, it is law for the lagoons to have a cement "casing" And yes, we use all of the manure, plus other fertilizer. Every year we suck the pit completely dry and spread all of the manure without issue. The only manure lagoon/pit that I've ever heard overflow is a sewage pit. Toilet paper and all. But I'm sure you'll still cowardly blame the problem on people you don't have to talk to. Anybody who falls into the pit is doing something wrong. There's a fence around all of them in my area. I have never heard of the manure being misted into the air. Sounds like a waste. And I do know lots and lots of people in my rural area and not one complains about the smell. Not one falls ill because of the smell. I live right next to multiple farms; turkey, pig, dairy, you name it. And I never smell anything. Nobody does. It is not a problem.

It’s wasteful because IT TAKES 16 KG OF PLANTS TO MAKE 1 KG OF MEAT. Seriously, how many times does that need to be said for people to understand it? 16 kg of plants can feed more people for a longer period of time than 1 kg of meat can. You realize that over 90% of the soybeans currently grown are fed to cattle, right? That means less than 10% of those crops are used to feed human beings. We’re already planting tons of soybeans to feed cattle; why can’t we use it to make substitutes? And who said all we needed was soybean substitutes anyway? So you think that because your family members drank milk and never broke any bones means that milk is healthy for you? There are tons of chain smokers out in the world that live to be 80+ years old. Does that mean chain smoking is healthy? Your way of thinking is antiquated. Research a scientific paper for crying out loud! There is no evidence that dairy is good for bone strength. In fact, it’s the opposite! You are living in a bubble if you think that because you haven’t heard of something, it can’t be true. While there very well may be laws in your area to contain lagoons, that doesn’t mean those laws exist elsewhere. Have you heard of the hog industry in North Carolina? Billions of gallons of waste is produced annually and when their cesspool lagoons reach capacity, the poop is sprayed into the atmosphere 200 feet away from people’s homes. Just because lagoons aren’t a problem for you, doesn’t mean they are not a problem for people across the country. Do you read the news? All of North Carolina’s manure lagoons are currently overflowing after Hurricane Florence, which will bring in a host of health problems for the people. If most of the population were vegan, this wouldn’t be a problem. Get online and Google some scientific papers, man. Educate yourself!

So what scientific paper did you read to find out that it takes 16kg of plants to create 1kg of meat? And yes, we could create substitutes with the soybeans but the problem is you cannot just keep growing soybeans over and over again. You have to rotate crops. In my area it's primarily alternating soybeans and corn, and sometimes wheat. I do not think that people could eat enough corn. Another issue is that farmers would have to purchase another extremely expensive piece of machinery, known as the sweet corn harvester.... There are two types of corn. There is the corn which is fed to the cows and it is hard... Proper corn, and then there is sweet corn which is chewable. This part I'm unsure about, because I was looking online to convert everything and find statistics and stuff. But here I go. One cow produces around 21 tons of manure per year, which dramatically helps the growth of the crops they eat. A Dairy cow can eat around 18 tons of feed per year. they also produce around 10 tons of milk per year. And ontop of that, the meat. So is there really an issue? North Carolina is one out of 50 states. You know how close manure is spread to my home? 40 feet. And there is no problem! Of course North Carolina's lagoons are overflowing... because of a hurricane. Nothing you can do about that. I'm sure it happened to every sewage treatment plant nearby too.

Ed is a fraud. Check out the channel Bobby's Perspective for undeniable evidence.

@@Tonyvillanueva94 😂😂😂

@@Tonyvillanueva94 I think you mean his opinion.

Jesus wasn't vegan lmaooo

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Hhahaha Yeah. He is having a great time :D

Lolololol thank you for pointing that out

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I am not a vegan but Ed did won this debate but I still am not becoming a vegan, no way!!!

Kieron Lampard she’s a reporter. They ask questions

The video says it's a debate but it's not

Thats cause she basically never listened to a word he said. She was spending that time thinking about what she'd say next :\ Shes very rude and not as educated on the topic as she believes she is.

Jacob Yohe clearly she is has her own agenda. Not an impartial reporter

Genesis 1:26-27 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” Mathew 6:26 “Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your Heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?” I support the lady. Plain and simple. 🤷🏽‍♂️🐄

But knowledgeable enough to see the difference between a human baby and a 3 year old pig he was actually lectured in that part

@@blackmarlin3166 You got that backwards. Science says that a pig is at the very least as intelligent as a three year old human. And he said that if she values the life of a featus based on its possible sentience and intelligence, she should value the pigs more (based on her logic).

@@chrisp9454 First of all, biology taught us that organisms have different rate of growth and development, a 3 year old human is not the same stage of development as a 3 year old pig. 3 years in pigs is equivalent to 26 years in humans. And the comparison is way too convenient i can assure you a baby einstein is as dumb as a rock so lets just compare him to a pig while we get the chance. I would also like to see the study regarding this but i saw an experiment between a pig and a human child where they try to do nonsense tasks like rolling a ball and picking food from a bowl which doesn't prove any undisputable edge in intelligence additionally the pig used was well-trained and hand-picked for the experiment. The tasks were also handpicked where it's within the realm of the pig's capability, let's see what happens when they try do other tasks. My 2 year old niece can recognize all the alphabets, all the numbers, colors, she understands simple emotions, she can communicate and listen. Don't believe any studies if there's no consensus among scientists because this particular experiment i mentioned is flawed and don't believe that a pig can be atleast as smart as a 3 year old human.

@@blackmarlin3166 You are obsessed. Don't you have something better to do instead of wasting your time saying bullshit? What is the difference between a human baby and a pig according to you? What makes it ok to kill pigs but not babies?

@@chrisp9454You're right though you can't say that embryos and fetuses are sentient and intelligent.

Check out Alex O'Connor's videos on the topic. He's the one who pushed me over the edge from being a pescetarian.

mate... there is a set of balls somewhere... regather them ffs

@@homelessjazz7086 What does eating dead innocent animals have to do with the concept of manliness? How about not bending to the status quo and reevaluating your beliefs.

@@chrisbenoit4273 change my beliefs?? No sir.. I will not.. being a hunter and provider is kinda defined in history right . Go gather berries you fucking sook and nit me a new beanie, bloody freezing here at 5am on the way to work

@@homelessjazz7086 Slave drivers would've agreed with that sentiment of blindly following tradition. Nobody cares that you wake up at 5 AM either. Everyone has a job big man.

Absolutely spot on! "you can't compassionately kill someone if it's unnecessary!" that would be the difference between euthanasia and murder. Referring to animal slaughter as 'murder' @Morrisey! is giving animals equivalent-to-human status, which i'm not prepared to do. The musician aka Buckethead protests the 'holocaust 'of chickens at KFC. Again, an over-sensitive soul, prone to category mistakes.

And on top of that, they do not want you to kill them.

@@veetour no shit Sherlock. Do you honestly believe that the Zebra wants the Lion to kill it. It’s called the food chain, mate, and we’re on the top. Vegans really ignore how much we benefit from meats.

@@sandman5973 What benefits from meat that you can’t get from non meat? Seems like you get more negative health outcomes from meat.

you cant passionately kill someone, but in some cultures you can passionaletly kill something, depends on where you place other living things (including plants) in relation to your own species.

don’t worry, she said she “studied veganism” to be credible and act like she mastered the topic... in a debate AGAINST A VEGAN 🤦‍♀️ 😂 she literally was just pulling at straws for any reason to continue her destructive, cruel ways.

Its not a fight. They're exchanging ideas. Stop being silly

Then she goes back to the same point he had already destroyed later in the conversation.

@@JoeBidenIsMyDaddy Lol, pot meet kettle hypocrite. That high failure, problem riddled eating disorder of Veganism is highly destructive and not ethical or better whatsoever, you delusional POS. Anybody who does any "legit" research about the real truth of Veganism, avoids it like the plague.

@@MrBilld75 ok boomer

What do you mean?

@@MoxxMix I mean that the intelligent, knowledgeable and articulate vegan 'slaughtered' the poorly formed arguments of the woman debating him.

@@nickssmirkingrevenge I think that using 'slaughtering' as metaphor for anything that vegan is doing is not way to go.

@@MoxxMix What do you mean? I would assert that it is the way to go for people with an appreciation of ironic humour. Of course, it is always possible to find people who routinely misinterpret humour. For instance, the Fawlty Towers episode satirising Basil Fawlty's xenophobia towards his German guests has recently been misinterpreted by a dim few as promoting xenophobia.

How can you say it's a discussion when he's talking so fast he can't take a breath.

Post malone went vegan?

Nuance Bro this is a true activist 🌱

Another deluded fuckwit.

Nuance Bro more like nut sack Bro

Or emotionally unstable. It takes time and work to learn how to speak to idiots

And cuts him off if he’s making a great point

That's how women argue. Press when they taste blood and wigle and redirect when they are wrong about something.

Ruben Vermeulen this isn’t a gender thing, what a stupid thing to say

Exactly, i wish he'd have stopped her and asked how she felt about the point in which he was making

@@nexya26 right? wtf

She owned him. He had nothing but virtue signal and propaganda.

Ah hell nah! He is spreading awareness as an advocate and she is offer an large platform from the right. Basically quid pro quo!

@@badboy95ca exposes vegan desperation and stupidity to a wider audience and more people become aware of how dishonest vegans are.

@@evilsbrother8247 Trolling or cognitive dissonance?

@@evilsbrother8247 You really must be blind cause he clearly took her back to school.