I have no experience with the Deadman, and I'm impressed with it's potential. However, I've been digging for an awfully long time, starting as an 8 year old child labourer on my father's building sites, digging foundations and mixing concrete. Over the years (I'm just shy of 60 now) the number of other workers I've taken to hospital for not listening and digging bare footed even after PPE provided free (South African weather is fabulous) A foot sliced by a shovel is really something you don't want to see. You can be great at it, but one glance off a buried rock wakes you up a bit. Have a care, please.
We haven't tried it in the Georgia clay yet, but one thing we have found is that the denser the soil, you don't need to bury it as deep. I am sure in the GA clay you could get away with a much shallower hole.
Agree with these comments. Plus, digging with a steel shovel and handling/operating a winch barefoot earns an F in the safe overlanding column. It’s a neat tool, but should be demonstrated using proper safety measures. Also agree with not driving into the water on a public beach.
Overlooking it was the aspect of that I was gearing my tip towards! You're right though. If you can't afford the equipment to keep you safe or to bring you home you can't afford to off-road.
It doesn't matter how much of a tricked out vehicle that you have, there is *some place* that will get you stuck. I've seen 4WD tractors stuck... I've even seen tracked vehicles get stuck... All it means is that you get stuck in a more inaccessible place. :)
This guys cl ad: For sale, Toyota pickup, adult owned, never raced. Side note...routinely parked in salt water for advertising purposes. Needs u joints, transfer case & both differentials rebuilt. Breather lines plugged with salt/rust mixture. All aluminumparts are highly oxidized & toyota will not honor frame replacement warranty. Lol
ROTAXD wow, you act as if putting something in salt water is the end of the world for a vehicle. It’s called soap, water, wax, and regressing bearing the same you should do on your jet ski or boat trailer in freshwater if the axels routinely are submerged. I have multiple vehicle parked 100 feet from high tide, your vehicle doesn’t even have to get in the ocean for it to rust, if you don’t take care of it. Even powdered coated parts rust in high humidity when kept near the ocean regularly, even in a garage unless it is climate controlled.
evo emperor have you ever heard of contact cleaner? Eagle brand makes it, also once they are clean WD40 makes a contact cleaner protectant that limits oxidation and still permits a current to pass thru...
evo emperor i live 25 meters from the ocean on an island off of another island, salt is an issue, but i am still driving vehicles over 10 years old... no electrical issues.. no luck needed, just regular maintenance, periodic washing. Protectant sprays, car covers, motorcycle covers etc are a must. And if it gets too much sunlight with the salt in high humidity, that is really the worse,. A little shade does wonders. You don’t have to have your vehicle in the ocean to rust... being near it is just as bad.
This is really cool. As I was watching the video I kept asking myself “is he really gonna have to dig it out?” But the fact that it comes out easy in awesome. You won’t be digging a 4 x 2 x 2ft deep hole on mountainous terrain but that’s where the rocks and trees come in to play
It would be nice to compare recovery time vs other systems to give you a decent comparison. I would guess 40-75mins plus cleanup time. A proper weight spade anchor would do the same work in minutes.
@@mrarmaan999 Its very corrosive and rusts away metal. The frame of a truck can corrode away in areas that salt the roads in the winter or cars near the beach. Google the effects of salt water for more detail.
Yup. He could have demo'd the deadman anchor without letting his truck sit in salt water over the axle for half an hour while he dug the big hole. Now the brakes and diff lube are contaminated with corrosive salt water.
Anyone who's been to baja can testify that guys with brand new awsome 4x4 always get stuck and then you see the local fishermen with 40 year old 2wd trucks drive on the beach like their on the freeway...
LOL. yeah, Same as those BBC documentaries in Africa were they always use Land Rovers while in the background you see the locals overloading an old beat up Toyota mini truck driving it daily in the same "inhospitable" terrain.
Great self recovery option and we all know we've gotten stuck with nobody around at times. With potentially rising tides this is the difference between losing the entire vehicle and driving home.
Yep, but the spare is about 1/2 as strong as the Deadman (yep, we tested!) and is a lot more work to unmount, dig up, re-mount, etc. It works, but this is more versatile and stronger, too.
Deadman Off-Road how often are you likely to be bogged in sand? In a Jeep jk it would be the rare exception not the rule. Why carry kit that serves one purpose when you already have kit that serves multiple purposes. Overlanders take a different mindset to the kit they pack. If you want to consider an interesting take on equipment selection watch some long distance hiking videos. Everything they pack and carry has multiple purposes. An overlander takes a somewhat similar approach. Carry knowledge and less kit. It weighs much less.
I was watching matts off road recovery and seeing all these heavy trucks getting stuck, and while i'm wanting to try some stuff in my truck i don't want to have to pay a lot of money to get pulled out. so starting thinking there has be be a way to earth anchor. so i googled and i found this product. thanks for the demo. i think this will be going on my shopping list
I've seen this demoed 7 or 8 times, and it's always in the sand. I'll keep my "bulky" metal land anchor thanks. It's not much bulkier than the shovel he used to dig the hole and it folds up and mounts to my roll cage. And best of all, there's no digging required in case the tide is coming in, you don't have an hour to dig a hole, and your expensive vehicle is mildly important to you.
If you are secluded and stuck you may have to start digging. All I carry is a small foldable shovel... might need to get one of those Krazy Beaver shovels he was using.
This doesn't look practical. What if the water is coming in and you digging a hole under water.. Even with dry sand that looks like it would take at least an hour then you got to dig that hole again to recover your dead man. Fuck that the sea can have that truck it would be quicker to walk to the dealer and get a new one.
You already have an Earth Anchor on your truck it's called a spare wheel just use the same method but with the spare wheel we have used this method in the Simpson Desert and works really well and no it doesn't damage the spare wheel and it's not dangerous.
If you only play in sand. Maybe if you wanna dig. But I’ll keep hauling my 40lb Pul-Pal. Way faster and works when you are actually stuck. That truck wasn’t really stuck.
BluewaterCreativeFL yeah we made the mistake of driving in the ocean not too far from where this was filmed. Couldn't hose off the Jeep for 2 weeks. Paid for it when trying to replace steering components a couple years later and everything was seized.
The harder the soil, the shallower the hole you can use. We've used it in CA, AZ, and NV rocky hardpack with great results. In that kind of dense rocky soil, we've used a 16-18" hole atop a soft sandy slope to make the climb. Works great!
I had a gen2 Tacoma. The back end went away and Im in Florida. Toyota did offer a replacement but I didnt want a frame replacement on a fairly new truck. Traded it in.
we cleaned it really quickly. Given that we live in the southwest where we never see road salt or salty sea air, this exposure is likely far less than others in those areas. Still, all in the name of science! ;-P
gary shumaker 330, because it’s not made in China. If they sold more units, price might come down. Then again, you see how simple it is, take a sewing class, get some outdated fire hose from your local fire department, get an industrial sewing machine, maybe some Army GP medium used tent material, water proof it, sew it together and yeah you might save $4, but you do have the option of doing it yourself. If you walk along enough highway, you can collect enough aluminum cans to melt down, spin on a lathe, and make your own body lift kits.. have fun saving that money, to some people 330$ is a way better option. Whether you buy it or not, and obviously you are in the “are not” column, the more products produced for off-reading the better. I don’t remember ever looking for the cheap lift kits, wheels or tires for any of my modded 4x4’s over the years. You could use your cell to call a wrecker with a long wench, i bet the tow alone might come close to 300$, not to include the police that will ticket you in most places i have been for driving too close to the surf. So all in all, if you look at the big picture spending 40/50K on a off road vehicle and another $330... really isn’t that bad. Maybe stick to using your 4x4 to buy groceries if you are not prepared to spend money driving it, once you damage something. It’s going to happen. Even when you go to get your groceries some leftard environmentalist will carve something on the side of the vehicle just at the sight of it, 4x4’s are the closest thing to boats when it comes to throwing money away but are much more fun...
@@marknasia5293 "4x4's are the closest thing to boats when it comes to throwing money away but are much more fun." Preach it Brother, truer words have never been spoken. I've been wheeling since I left the pro street scene in '96 and never looked back. Never lamented the fact that for the money, I could have had a brand new vehicle with a factory warranty and spared myself the 2 years it took building it in the shop. I guess what I was saying, that in all the time since which included 2 seasons spotting and co-piloting in ERoCC, I've only ever encountered the need for a deadman once and it wasn't even for my rig. But we achieved the same result with someone's old spare tire and a chunk of firewood. The product. It's cool and all, well designed, thought out and NOT built in China but I can't justify adding it to my recovery equipment. Being three hours from the nearest coast and all. PS: No self respecting off-roader would be caught dead using a body-lift kit, homemade or otherwise. Or ever be able to live down the reputation for having to call a tow truck. You don't want to be "that guy"... As for a grocery getter? Let's see, Interco Boggers @ 600 a pop with Detroit lockers, (I swear I lose 1/32" of tread just getting it parked) there is not enough room and I'm not in my 30's anymore.
gary shumaker for me, anytime anyone takes the time to produce a product for off roading, i am glad to see it, even if it isn’t my thing. Most off road products i wouldn’t have, but i can still appreciate coming up with it. I am sure there are many, especially depending on where they live, would like to have this product. Everyone’s comment about “just bury your spare” yeah..... 40” spare, getting if off the truck and burying it.. that is where i can see this product coming in. Most people that say “just use your spare” has never even dug a hole, and after they get finished digging a hole to put that 40” spare in, lol they can sit for a few hours recover before the task of getting the spare off of whatever mounting system they have. So there is real practice applications for this. Back in high school we made body lifts from recycled cans due to the laws limiting the height of your 4x4 measured from the bottom of the frame to the ground. Many times a body lift for older trucks will give you that little bit extra so when the suspension compresses you dont damage the tires. A friend of mine still has his 76 ford pu with the body lift we put in it back in 86, and still runs 44’s as a daily driver at that. I can’t think of any situation i have been in the civilian world off roading where I would need this product. Now for military applications, if this guys is smart he would sell this to the military, there are a few places i had to get pulled out by other vehicles, not on a nice beach but lots of loose sand and no anchors, but fortunately i wasn’t by myself and another vehicle was always there to act as an anchor and we just used the tire wench set up since we didn’t have an actual wench. I could see the military buying this product for certain units. As i do with anyone else i would love to hear what innovation you bring to the 4x4 community, the more ideas, the better. If it helps somebody get their vehicle out of a bad situation, that is good. I really don’t know many that venture out 4wheeling buy themselves which this product would be great for, but most that would be interested in this kit are probably the kind that go out in groups, wear similar t-shirts, create patches badges or something of the sort. There is nothing wrong with clubs, they are just not for me. So let me do the math real quick, 330 is way too much, but tossing a lot 600 tire on a ? Wheel in a hole, then digging it up after your finished and then mounting that money back where ever it came from because no matter how tired or frustrated you are at the beach with the tide coming it, you can’t leave that wheel underwater. The anchor, could be left there until the tide goes down ,but honestly i would like to how easy it is to recover in that beach situation, after the truck is out of the way, how easy is it, as compared to digging your tire out of the beach.
@@marknasia5293 They say to dig a hole for The Deadman Off-Road Earth Anchor 4'x2'x2' which would displace 16 cu.ft. of media. An 18/39.5 tire displaces around 12. So in terms work required it would be about the same. I wanted to add, retrieving the spare was the easy part, just situated the winch above the tire opposite the pulling side and it came straight up and out. Wasn't mine, I wasn't going to offer up my spare (mounted to a beadlock rim) to pull out someone else' junk. Thing of it was, it all could have been avoided if the guy would have thought it out better. He didn't think about recovery until after he was already stuck. In my experience, vehicle recovery evolves something like this, for a slightly modified open diffed rig with towing points, a jerk strap, a chain and a hi-lift jack will get you out of most situations. After you install the long travel suspension and a rear locker the hi-lift jack almost becomes obsolete, and it's time for a winch, tree straps, snatch block, clevises, a bottle jack and a base. After the front locker, the winch is there just to give you bigger balls. ;)
I remember doing this in the Marines when we got stuck in the sand in 29 palms. We had to dig and use a large piece of wood to serve as an anchor. Motor T Guys we were with taught us good.
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A spare tire anchor is one method, but my 37" spare is pretty dang gone heavy and I'd much rather use the Deadman which is easily stuffed into a recovery bag.
To add to what Brad said, we did a side-by-side with a 29” tire and the Deadman held 2x the load at the same depth. It also held 1x the load as the spare in a shallower hole. 🤙🏽
It's hard to believe how easily he submerges his lovely Tacoma in saltwater like that. If I were in his shoes, I would sell the car afterwards since the rust will be visible for years to come. Moreover, considering the size of the hole he needs to dig, he'd better hope that the tide isn't coming in fast. By the way, is there any reason why you guys don't deflate your tires more when driving on sand?
Great video; ... and proof I was an idiot because the 2 times I used a Deadman buried to get myself out, I dug it most of the way back up before trying to retrieve it ... Thanks!!!! ETA: I also thought I had to bury it deeper to be effective.
When I visited Blue Ridge Overland gear they are the ones making them for Deadman . BROG is out of Va and make some really cool stuff as well and make quality gear.
I pause to say I’d NEVER buy a truck put in ocean like that! Talk about salty rust issues! To me, it’s stupid to be putting a vehicle on salty beach. Old boy must have more money than brains.
Making sandcastles at the beach is one thing, digging into rocky tree root and clay filled soil is something entirely different and time consuming. I'll just use a pullpal. If you can afford built Tacomas and JK's, you should be able to afford a PullPal.
I was stuck once where the only tree (more of a bush) that was within reach was probably not over 2" in diameter. I was stuck up to the top of my tires all the way around. The ground looked solid beforehand, but apparently it was covering something of marsh-like consistency underneath. I hooked to the base of that "tree" and it pulled me right out without even appearing like it was going to uproot the "tree".
Soft shackles are not safer. They are subject to dry for and chemical exposure. In the crane and rigging world synthetic straps and rope either has to be replaced or recertified after 2 years due to degradation. Synthetics are nice and I've used some rated up to 250k lbs but there is a reason steel is still preferred in the rigging industry
Big I see the sarcasm but seriously rigging is my job my lively hood. Soft shackles are great but they aren't the end all be all. He'll they aren't even legal to use in a refinery.
During my time in the Navy, there was a situation when I was onboard my ship out at sea and a cable line snapped and injured 3 Sailors that I had to render first aid to. So I've seen first hand the damage a snapped cable can do. When a synthetic line from a winch snaps, it just drops to the ground, no back lash. I'm sure in the line of work you are in, lifting heavy objects up in the air, that cable is preferred. For me, just needing to be tugged out of a hole, over a rock or helping someone else out from time to time, synthetic is perfect, easy to handle and I don't have to fear backlash from a cable line.
Synthetic is much safer, yes it deteriorates. if you are lazy and don't do maintenance on your rig, then steel is the way to go, but if you clean your synthetic line and make sure it doesn't stay exposed to the sun it will be much safer, the fire department and USAR (urban search and rescue team) only uses synthetic rope for any rescue operation because it is lighter and safer.
TrailRecon synthetic winch line is fine for the very reason you stated but those soft shackle.are alot weaker than a good 3/4 crosby, cambell or New Holland shackle. The towing and recovery industry uses breaking strength for their rating. crane and rigging use a 4 to 1 or at times a 5 to 1 safety factor to get their rating. A 3/4 Crosby shackle is rated at 17000lbs but breaking strength is 4 times that so 68000lbs It just a marketing stunt.
I've looked at some "land anchors". At my age, I think I'd suffer the 25-35lb weight and use a collapsible Mantus Marine anchor. They tend to auger in well without help, and sand with buried rocks or tree roots only helps. This Deadman sheet can't be beat for stowage weight, though.
I've only had to use a deadman once and fortunately there were logs of various sizes laying around so I buried one and come-alonged the truck out. It was a lot of work so now I have a winch and a "home-made" deadman made out of a length of steel pipe. It really works and I always bring it with me offroading.
For us, it's about having more tools in the toolbox. We also have Maxtrax, and sometimes use them with the Deadman & winch as well because it reduces the stress on your rigging. Every recovery is unique, and the conditions are never ideal, so having options is crucial.
Deadman Off-Road Hi Daniel! I'm glad you were able to go to Baja with Brad, he's great! Love your recovery gear, I'm glad Brad put in the video how to get it out too!
That’s a joke a pull pal would have you out in minutes. Yes it weighs more but . You could use a hand winch and save weight. Weight saving don’t always add up to practically of a situation . Serious off roads who travel remote places by themselves would not use that .
That "Dead man " anchor point system is NOT a practical solution for getting you back into action. It takes WAY too much time to deploy, and "Recovering" it, was just as much a pain in the @$$ as it was, to deploy it. NO THANK YOU..!. I keep a 5 foot long piece of rebar and a B.F.H (Big Phooken Hammer) in my truck, and all I have to do is drive it down into the ground a couple of feet at an angle, and slide my winch hook onto it, and away I go. AND...When I'm done..all I gotta do is hook the winch hook onto the "D" ring that I welded onto the rebar a foot or so down from the top, and I'm done. Keep yourself, and your rig Safe and ready to get away from that "RAPIDLY INCOMING TIDE " by using my idea, and forget about that silly thing that will only put you further into harm's way, and save your money. In other words.."DON'T BUY THAT CRAP ". Tides usually come in pretty fast, and I've seen some folks lose their investment to Mother Nature. Don't waste your money.!
Make it urself, save a few hundred bucks with some rope/chain and a spare tire? Came here cuz i thought it was some winch-les way to get unstuck? This scenario would be perfect for that bag u hook up to ur tailpipe and it lifts the car. Not this, “dig a whole, you still need a winch shit!?”🤷🏼♂️🤮
UH... I have a MUCH BETTER solution. A BOAT ANCHOR... if you stow away a Aluminium Boat Anchor and you Burried it with it digging into the Sand or - Ground then it is stronger and works better. ! & Don't weigh much. Now that rig can be rolled up & take up less space. Buy Aluminium Boat Anchor will get you out...
How long did he have to dig? I watched an suv get taken in 15 mins. A good land anchor digs for you and takes 30 seconds. Then there is the brush winch which pulls by wrapping the cable around a wheel connected to the spinning wheels of the truck and that can also be connected to a land anchor or another stationary object and they don't all weigh 40lbs. Plus of you watched the Alaska challenge where they drive across Alaska all offroad .... jeep wins it but only because they had a land anchor.
I'm sick of these videos that show you something and then they just happened to forget to tell you how much it cost. Keeping in mind you better be able to do a lot of digging LOL By the way a guy in the 50s had something like that for his Jeep just thought I'd mention it. Everything old is new again LOL
It is about the weight. Physics ain't your strong point. So, when you went to pull it out in reverse of your "hook" seems to tell the story. You probably would argue in favor of 5.56 over 7.62 as well. I don't hate you but c'mon dude, seriously.
Yeah good luck with that here in Arizona where every cubic foot of dirt contains 2 cubit feet of rock. You expect me to dig a 2 foot hole in the desert? Not happening. The metal anchor is a much better option. But yeah, I guess if all your wheeling in done on beaches or sand dunes or volleyball courts, then this is the option for you.
Helluva lot of work when a folding boat anchor that weighs 5 lbs dropped on the sand would do the same thing. He'd better hope the tide isn't coming in with how much time it would take to dig that grave-sized hole.... Not to mention having to UNBURY it afterwards. One of those "tools" that seems like a great idea until you actually have to use it...
4Lo and not hitting the gas so hard. And using a proper rocking method probably would've gotten it out of the stuck situation. It's a good demonstration for sure. But I'd like to see this demonstration done in an open marshy bogs of Alaska where theres no anchoring points to wench from
Hey guys! I need your opinion. I got a 2016 JKU Sport. Should I upgrade my front to a Dana 44 or just run my D30 with ARB locker? I don't do much hardcore wheeling but still want Lockers. I have 35s with a 3 inch lift.
The only time I see people getting stuck is in the sand at the beach, or playing in the mud, both of which are soft enough to dig any size hole. How the hell are all you people getting stuck in rock-hard GA red clay? ITS HARD!!!!!!
Or......you could not drive on the coastal sand 😂 or just bury your spare tire half as deep saving 2 times the time 😎 and if your spare is buried because it’s under your truck one of those dog chain spiral doohickeys buried works too. And you don’t have do dig out a cubic yard 🤓
That Tacoma wasn't truly stuck. I guess they couldn't get it really stuck so they pretended it was. I've seen older Tacomas stuck up the the diff in sand come out with regular 4 wheel drive. There is a nifty new system on the newer ones that can get you unstuck real easily.
Why not just use a ground anchor (alloy) knock in a few pins, hook up the winch and off we go! Or, screw in a couple of alloy augers, hook up the winch and drive on. All completed by the time you dig a hole.. Oh well, each to their own I guess.
Okay this might be a stupid question but why not use a light weight anchor like a fortress the FX 35 has plenty of holding power, weighs less than 25 pounds, and getting it out would only require light pull from the opposite direction.
I don’t like Asian trucks, but nice setup. Had a ‘91 4Runner & it was gutless; caused me to go Ford & Ram - never looked back after my last F-150 hit 260K miles without a hiccup.
so ok you get stuck you buy this tarp and dig your self a grave bury it two feet down winch out or dig it up ........ easy in sand were we go 4" is a strugle so this is a beach anchor however his rear flairs were dope the way they were flapping around cant wait to see his infomercial on that sweet setup
Cool product with a ridiculous price. I went to their website expecting to pay $50 to $75 and I think it was over $200. It's a few straps and a piece of cloth. I'll just make my own...
