The issue with symbiote spidey that it's hypothetically stronger than harry venom due to their bonding the thing that holds him back is that he holds back by a lot even when he's trying to kill kraven or literally anyone he fought because him holding back is always engraved in his brain
@@brightspeed6782that's still weird. Because Peter rebonded with venom once and then in a fit of rage, he turned into full-size Venom and Superman-punched Carnage through a whole skyscraper. Venom Symbiote makes a normal human twice as strong as normal Spider-man. Logically the symbiote should make Spider-man FAR FAR stronger
It was a great edit But you don't understand how much of a power house symbiote peter is The reason he wasn't shown as strong as venom was that he always holds back(even kraven mentioned it) Don't forget he has strength of the spider and symbiote together The spider was already so strong So imagine how strong it would be with symbiote
I think if he kept the symbiote longer it would try to merge with him eventually(basically turn him into a monster like it did with Harry or Eddie)..The reason why it didnt take on a monstrous form sooner with Peter was because of Pete only wanting to be better spider-man and for just wanting to use it as a suit so the symbiote had to influence and change his behaviour slowly in order to completely bond with him
No Holding Back Wise Peter Takes all the Points because Harry with the suit is just a normal guy while Peter is a superhuman with Super Strength Speed etc and the symbiote adds more on top of that so technically he wins and if we talk about the last fight of the game it’s because Peter was holding back to save harry if he was full of bloodlust and no holding back he would definitely win
Yeah and not holding back symbiote Peter can beat carnage who negs venom so symbiote Peter destroys venom and that’s just Peter with the regular venom symbiote so imagine how powerful a not holding back anti venom Peter would be lmao
@@MaximumPrime yeah because he was holding back more than usual since he didn’t want to kill his best friend lmao dumbass I swear you people never pay attention to that and read the comics because in the comics venom went after mayday Parker and mj and almost killed them and that’s what made 616 Peter stop holding back and he was bloodlusted and Peter beat venom’s ass and killed him so Peter in the comics has shown not holding back venom doesn’t stand a chance and Peter has shown not holding back he can easily defeat mister negative so mister negative doesn’t stand a chance against a bloodlusted Peter either lmao and mister negative defeated anti venom and almost killed him and he would’ve killed him if it wasn’t for 616 Peter joining the fight and anti venom literally negs venom and even carnage just by touching them and since insomniac Peter=616 Peter he can do the same thing not holding back so insomniac Peter=616 Peter>mister negative>anti venom> carnage>venom
@@MaximumPrimedid u not just hear me say He was holding back like he always does even in the black suit we seen him hold back from not killing we saw that he was going to do what venom does and kill Kraven until Miles interrupted because he was trying to save his literal BEST FRIEND HARRY who is literally a dying ordinary human without the suit why do u think Venom wanted to get on Spider-Man and stay on him because Peter is literally SUPERHUMAN and Venom wasn’t kicking Spider-Mans ass the whole game it was towards the end of the game that’s a pretty stupid comment if u ask me sooooo instead of watching Spider-Man through reels go play the game my guy
@@Dirteater123peter didn't wanna kill harry, just think about it he had anti venom he could have ripped the symbiot from harry and then smash his skull
It must be emphasized that if Peter Symbiote does not contain himself (As always seen) Peter Symbiote wins, that is why Venom prefers him to Peter because he is stronger, just think if Peter will stop playing games with his strength and reflection Peter Symbiote is a god, but this one contained himself, not Harry, until I'm sure when he played anti venom against venom peter contained himself
Imagine symbiote taking over Peter as it did to Harry! I know that happend in a comic book and the results were scary 😨 he was way more powerful than Venom!
How can strength go to venom? Black Spidey is combination of Spidermans strength and added symbiotic strength. He literally says it in a line 'kinda miss having that EXTRA symbiote strength rn'
@@zeke4778BRO STOP THE GLAZING HE WASNT HOLDING BACK SHIT BCUS AT THIS POINT THE SYMBIOTE MADE HIM MINDLESS AND RAGEFUL MEANING HE DIDNT HOLD BACK AND STILL GOT WHOOPED
If Pete was bloodlusted or enraged the results would be way different..Even when Venom kind off changed him Pete still had those morals..if Pete decided to want to become a monster instead of a better spider-man like Eddie did in the comics he would easily destroy any other version of Venom since he is already superhuman
how the hell is Symbiote Spider-Man bloodlusted 💀..Peter was losing himself in wanting to be a better Spider-Man..If Pete was bloodlusted than he wouldnt be Spider-Man anymore he would be even bigger than Harry's Venom@@Artimus_Prime
How did Peter not get strength? Sure, Venom built like a tank but the symbiote ehances every aspect of you, including your physical strength. Remember, Harry is a normal human and the symbiote allowed to him to compete with Peter and Miles, who are ehanced without the aymbiote. So it stands to reason that symbiote Peter would be significantly stronger than Venom, because the symbiote is enhancing his already enhanced strength. Don't forget, Peter holds back and we don't see the full display of his strength when he fights people. Symbiote Peter should and would win this fight
All that iq and experience and some other points go to venom since the symbiote sees their hosts memories and stuff like that (even adds their hosts abilites to their own) and obviously the symbiote bonded with Pete so venom knows everything Peter does/did
I think the reason harry is stronger is cause the Symbiote fully bonded/took full control hence the full venom form. Peter was still going through the transformation.
I would say Venom takes Combat, considering he beat Peter with the anti-venom suit, which is implied to be just as powerful as the black suit and has an inherent advantage over symbiotes
Insomniac Peter gets combat because he bested Kaine Parker in combat who is literally a 616 Peter Parker clone meaning Kaine should have Peter’s memories and knowledge of his combat skills and 616 Peter was literally trained by Shang chi, iron fist and captain America and Peter stalemated captain America and Shang chi in combat and iron fist is stated to have infinite ways to kill a man yet he stated that he can’t beat or kill Peter lmao
Comparing the comics but the hardest Peter has punched without holding back (with the symbiote on) was against the red goblin through two whole buildings only to impact into the middle of time square creating a small crater. (#800 BTW) I know a lot of people have said Harry is stronger but I'd got to say Pete was definitely holding back. However, it depends on the emotion of the host, that's how Eddie/Harry Osborn had some type of motive to exactly get stronger and sort of have the symbiote feed on rage which made both Venom and the host (Eddie/Harry) incredibly powerful and physically imposing. Peter possibly didn't have any thing to entitle him to feel wrathful and enraged other than just being an addictive bully. In Ultimate Spider-Man they delved into this but it was just recently maybe a year or two I assume after the events of Uncle Ben's death which made him lose control of the symbiote and become Venom due to being reminded of his Uncle's death.
Yeah people forget that Peter with the venom symbiote holds back and not holding back he pummeled the red goblin and almost won and he would’ve won if it wasn’t for that fire starting so if symbiote Peter not holding back can beat carnage venom isn’t doing shit so just imagine anti venom Peter not holding back he would violate venom badly💀
It doesn't make sense that Venom is weaker than the spider symbionte. Peter with physical attributes capable of lifting a building is a much better host than a sick Harry Osborn.
Spidey holds back even with the symbiote..If he kept it maybe his appearance would be changed basically if Symbiote completely corrupted him like it did Harry than he would be a lot stronger but Pete has responsibilities and morals even with the symbiote he only wanted to become a better spider-man
The difference between harry venom and bully parker is that peter and venom is a true bond, aka the reason why the symbiote takes over his suit, also the symbiote refers to " I " Or peter saying us instead of venom saying us.
W edit Bro Fax Venom wins Mid-high diff or Mid diff And if Pete was that angry when he fought Kraven, I think Pete has a better chance of winning, but I still think Venom wins, but it would be more difficult for him if Pete was that angry. Pls Ant-Venom Edge Of Time VS Spider-Man Peter Ant-Venom Suit Insomniac PS5 🗿
@@zeke4778 I don't know, Venom is very powerful, if Peter was in an absurd rage, I think it would be more difficult for Venom, but if Peter with the symbiote were to win, I would say High diff or Mid-High diff. No diff, I already think it's too much honestly because this venom is very powerful
@@Felipe_EditzIts not a no diff but low-mid diff logically..Because if Peter just lost it and gave symbiote control then he would become even more dangerous than Harry's Venom since Peter is already superhuman and since the symbiote feeds on negative emotions if Pete were to merge with it he would become even a worse monster than the other Venom versions
I would say abilities are equal tbh. Even though in the end we can make this point. Peter was holding back in every fight he was in. He didnt want 2 harm harry or kraven or miles even. Even with the suit influncing him to "kill" peter had a more tame contorl of it before he started losing himself in his dream to be a "better" Spider-Man. In the end pete should have won if didnt hold back in any regard
