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Vermintide 2 | Crafting System & Drop Rates Explained

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Welcome ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, kids and adults, recruits and veterans, filthy elves and salty zealots! To yet another Warhammer: Vermintide 2 - Chaos Wastes video! In todays video were gonna talk about Vermintide's crafting system and how you can use the knowledge of how it works in combination with knowledge of how item power drops out of chests to get to max item power (300) as quickly as possible! Furthermore we also talk a bit about the estimated drop rates of veteran items in a variety of different loot boxes in the game. I really hope you guys enjoy todays video since it required quite a bit of testing and research and I also tried a couple of new editing tricks to make it a little bit more digestible. And as always, thank you so much for watching friend! :)
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↪ Opening Monologue: 0:00
↪ Guide Introduction: 2:24
↪ Guide Beginning: 3:00
↪ Crafting System Explained: 3:56
↪ Getting Max Power: 7:20
↪ Vermintide Drop Rates: 14:55
↪ Outro: 18:35
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I am a 27 year old hardcore gamer from Copenhagen Denmark. I'm super secular, with a love and passion for science, astronomy and philosophy. As of the making this video i've racked up 5.000+ Hours in Warhammer: Vermintide 2 with all of Okri's challenges done. I spend a lot of time in Vermintide on the modded realm challenging myself with interesting solo run's with special modifiers. I'm a filthy elf main closely followed by my trusty self exploding wizard. I have however played all characters above 30+100 on the official realm. You have a great day internet sir! :D
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@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

What mechanic should we cover next? :)

@CraigBozUK 3 года назад

A breakdown and ranking of properties and traits would be good. How they apply and their usefulness etc 🙂

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

@@CraigBozUK I actually like that idea!:D

@Felix-zo9jx 3 года назад

@@CraigBozUK exaktly what i thinked

@shipshow463 3 года назад

It might be worthwhile to include a brief section on break points. Since power vs. properties are important for hitting break points, it's a natural fit.

@Grummar 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife what Craig said. Cover the exceptions when swift slaying isn't the best/only viable one for melee and the different things for ranged

@rodonunez_ 3 года назад

Oh yeah.... The good old times when red items where a myth and they were only trinkets xD took me about 200 hours for my first red item too xD

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

haha glad I'm not alone on that!

@sukablyat5764 3 года назад

Me too man. I got my first red at 220, but my friends that I just got into the game haven't even broke the 40 hr mark before their first red

@rodonunez_ 3 года назад

@@sukablyat5764 xD ranald is a troll

@tenorsrfun 3 года назад

My friend who is not power level 650 has gotten red items from emperor champion vaults before, and those items are power level 300. This was also in chaos wastes, don't know if that accounts for anything. Additionally. It would seem the red he got does not really effect the rate at which his power level is increasing. He only really tested it for like 3-4 boxes, but it still seemed to jump 1 or 2 power level every other box or so.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Yes that is true. Whenever you do obtain a red item before reaching 300 item power it counts whichever is the highest item power you have for that slot that isn't the red item. I think this is so that you can still get lucky and obtain a red item without that red item also being a MASSIVE shortcut for reaching 300 item power with the rest of your items. Should have probably mentioned that bit so I appreciate the comment! :)

@guilliman1990 3 года назад

This is exactly what happened to me I had 2 emperor's crates in chaos wastes enesing up giving me 3 reds after 3 crates only had 2 since

@peterleblanc661 2 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife I am just now playing for the first time I got my main to 35 and opened 50+ commendation chests. I got a red. I was about 240 average before than. Next chest all pieces jumped over 20 points. So a red can definitely speed it up at this point.

@tuesss Год назад

@@peterleblanc661 Same here last month. Got level 35, opened some commendation chests, got red item, next chest was about +20 power. I think I was somewhere around 220 power. Even if I was at power level 1, a lucky red would only raise it by 60, so I don't think there is any point in making reds not count towards the new item power level, especially considering how unlikely such scenario is.

@CraigBozUK 3 года назад

I am convinced there is an algorithm that increases the drops of red items if you haven’t played for a while. Ya know, to entice you back in. I could sit and play Legend all day and get ten emperor/generals vaults and get nothing. But when I leave the game for a few weeks, my first game back rewards me with a red item off champion difficulty or something. Either that or I’m just paranoid. 😄

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Funny thing is I've had (sorta?) the opposite experience. I always had this feeling that if you just started opening boxes you would get nothing but if you played/won a game and stayed in that lobby and opened chests then I felt like my luck increased. xD However despite this all too human feeling I am also well aware of the fact that people tend to seek and find patterns in the world and most likely this feeling I had was just that, a feeling. And unlikely to really be coded into the game hehe! :D Anyways hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching m8!

@shipshow463 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife I've only recently started to play Vermintide 2 and your videos have been priceless for me. But I'm commenting just to say that I appreciate your humility here and your mindful acknowledgement of psychological biases when it comes to "feelings" in drop rates. Idk, maybe it isn't a big deal and my comment looks really random, but I find it to be rather rare on the internet. It just tells me that you're an intellectually honest and humble guy. And that attitude shines through in all your videos. Keep up the good work.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

@@shipshow463 Awwww dude ༼ つ ಥ_ಥ ༽つ Thank you so much for saying that man it means the world to me!

@shipshow463 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife I just call it like I see it. You're clearly a smart guy and in my experience, it's easy for smart guys to lose that humility, especially when they become experts in something like you are in Vermintide. So I just wanted to let you know that I see it, I see your conscious effort to stay humble, to always be open to the possibility that you and your "feelings" might be wrong. And I appreciate it. It's not an easy thing to do.

@unyieldingtv3930 2 года назад

@@shipshow463 the world needs more people like yourself, my dude. Keep being you.

@dhavalrana5902 3 года назад

I've been getting into Vermintide 2 after having played the 1st one. There's a lot of depth to this fucking seemingly simple game and your videos have been helping guide me through. I'm trying to learn to main Sienna but I have no idea what roles to fill. A video on something like party role/dynamics would be awesome. ( Don't know too much about end-games)

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Appreciate the positive feedback and video ideas m8! :) Been playing for so long and making so many Vermintide 2 videos it can be hard for me to really know which aspects to cover for newer players. Appreciate the comment m8 and thanks for watching!

@dhavalrana5902 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife No worries boss, I understand from your Pyromancer guide that you put an incredible amount of work into your videos for the smallest of details so it's appreciated. Obviously, I can learn just through playing the game and quickplay which is what I've been doing but usually the information I get from people is kind of hit or miss. Anyways, yeehaw and happy trails, cowboy

@DrEvil-os9dc Год назад

Don’t hoard your crafting dust like this guy. Use it often, run it dry and make the best items you can on your quest to the veteran items. There is a time when you max char level and don’t find veteran items so you might as well make and roll items that are near perfect so you’re not getting antsy to find the best, you’re making them.

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

I'm not hoarding my dust good sir :) I just played so much that I have every variant of every red item in the game rerolled to every useful stat combination possible. Thanks for watching though!

@DrEvil-os9dc Год назад

@@ThePartyKnife I could tell! I was just saying in general to use it up while you can because at some point you’ll be maxed out on everything and have all the gear exactly how you want it. Might as well use it up on your way to perfection to maximize your items during the journey. I look up to great players like yourself

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

@@DrEvil-os9dc Awww. You are being too kind good sir!

@Armodon7 3 года назад

I always thought that drops are not determined by the average power, but by the highest item power you ever had and counting from there. Well getting 300 power takes no time anyway so that is why I never bothered to learn it.

@prich0382 2 года назад

Loot box rewards are -5 to +10 of your highest item if I remember right

@unyieldingtv3930 2 года назад

@@prich0382 highest item in your inventory or that you've ever worn? Do you have to keep it? What if I have say, a 100 trink, get a 108, but salvage it, does that mean the game looks at my 100 or at the 108 I got before?

@prich0382 2 года назад

@@unyieldingtv3930 highest ever found. Doesn't matter what you do with current highest

@unyieldingtv3930 2 года назад

@@prich0382 does that include any weapons you craft

@prich0382 2 года назад

@@unyieldingtv3930 pfff I'm not sure, I doubt it, test it yourself if you have not reached 300

@asim.r 3 года назад

I was thinking of making a video on this exact thing to help others out as it confused me when I started playing. So thank you, buddy. Very helpful video !

@donothack 3 года назад

Helpful for newbies like my friend but not for a pro plier like me. Good video though.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Hahaha hope you enjoyed the video regardless! :D

@prich0382 2 года назад

I wouldn't say not bother with properties or traits 300, I would say every 50 or more power then make a new weapon and use that for a while

@jazzyjazz00 Год назад

I had a good idea of the crafting and loot system and this video clarified every doubt, now i don't need to study anymore xD but I'm sure this video will be even better for new players, good job you explain very well and with good images. Thank you 👏

@RustProofHippo 3 года назад

I'd love a guide for the different spawn points on the difficult maps. How to manipulate respawns etc would be helpful too

@samvandam1766 Год назад

You are doing Sigmar's Work :)

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

Thank you very much kind sir of the internet

@theyuki-fay-multiverse9086 Год назад

Wow u got a red mirmidia sun curtain! Took me 20 years to get one 🎉🎉🎉

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

@nathanmaxwell2828 3 года назад

New to the game. Really enjoy your vids. Thanks.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Aww why thank you very much my friend I am glad to hear that!

@yarshmanspeaks 3 года назад

ooOOoo, drop rates. I am data-driven, and I just realized it.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

hehe glad you liked it friend! :)

@bademeister_sam4105 3 года назад

Reds can definitivly drop before lvl 25, I´ve pulled a friend of mine through a champion chaos waste 2 weeks ago and he got a red longbow for his lvl 18 waystalker :D that damn lucky guy xD

@Grebolexa 2 года назад

I might have missed this but do I have to have the highest level items equipped or does it count from the highest I have had. I know that it keeps track of the highest item you’ve had but island if I have to have everything equipped for it to work. On a similar note do I count the average of the items I have on me or the highest I have in my inventory?

@The_Rising_Tempest_Emilia 3 года назад

11:18 Discord notification! And you could have mentioned that you can see the average item power when you hover over the hero power button (the number). There are 2 lines for power, one for the level and one for equipment. The equipment power is the average item power :D. So nobody needs to do the math since the game already does it for you!

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Hahaha woops! xD And yeah true that I kinda forgot to showcase that... Guess I just assumed that people knew that! xD As for the math I wasn't trying to tell anyone that they should I just like to explain the logic that underlies the mechanics such that people really understand it as opposed to simply following X, Y and Z tips if that makes sense :) Anyways I appreciate the constructive criticism and thank you for watching!

@SindreEide93 3 месяца назад

I got a orange necklace today on my second crafting ever on my lvl 12 character and that is my highest lvl characrer to

@SirCrusher Год назад

What's the formula you used to calculate the average drop power of 102.5?

@drudenae Год назад

I guess drop rates were made much better over the last year. I’m at 100 hours and have had probably a dozen red drops. Enough for amulet, trinket and ring. As well as both weapons on Grail Knight

@tuesss Год назад

Really? I'm at 100 hours myself too and have opened only 3 red items so far (2 out of Commendation chests), so I was wondering if the rates had been nerfed, actually. There is no way General Chests have more than 1% red drop rate as I'd be swimming in reds already if that was the case.

@drudenae Год назад

@@tuesss I think that, maybe because it was double XP when I joined the game, I just happened to have a higher volume of Commendation Chests to open in a shorter period of time. I leveled 4 characters past 30 in less than 2 weeks when I put in those hundred hours. I have noticed that I get reds out of Commendation chests more frequently than Emperor/General loot boxes, but I still could have sworn that I got a red drop from something as low as a soldier's chest.

@CaptnYestrday Год назад

So wait a minute. We don't have to equip our strongest items before opening chests? Jesus Christ.....

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

Not anymore! :P

@notarikon7777 3 года назад

"Sacrificing the dwarf for better loot is the only verified method for better loot" .... (a wutelgi ) Slaanesh approved !!!

@dukarian6762 3 года назад

i have no idea about this numbers for legend emperor chests ..... dunno... sometimes i open 20-30 emperor chests from legend difficulty and i got 1-2 max to 4 items for real :( this 16-21% look absolute unreal actualy look like 1.6-2.1%

@dukarian6762 2 года назад

@Papa Joe rly :D bro thats what you came to say i fail my math..... amazing

@47RoninGaming 3 года назад

thanks to chaos waste i now got 2 mace an shield reds, top gaming. edit: we all know its basically 2 shields

@kaizaki9148 2 года назад

I heard a rumor that your chance of reds goes up if you have every hero on max power

@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 3 года назад

Took me 200 hrs to get my first red item.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Glad to hear I wasn't alone haha xD

@janotil1778 3 года назад

yea me too this game is very punishing in this regard

@TobiasSherman Год назад

This is amazing info! However, is there like a TLDR?

@kozhell Год назад

What is the name of the mod that changes the crafting menu?

@TEMPLARKILLER2010 Год назад

Got a red item today. my highest power level item is 201 and I was speedrunning the screaming bell on veteran. Even though I ignored all tomes and grimoires I still got a red item from the shitty chest (I don't know what it's called)

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

Yeah I think they have increased the drop rates in a patch a while ago :P

@barkbarkely9087 2 года назад

New player here this helped!

@NgArclite 3 года назад

Had to listen at 1.5 speed. Very informative video but my God was it given at such a slow rate

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Thanks I guess?

@KinkyJalepeno Год назад

I started playing last Friday and didn't get a thing.. Must be a DLC thing ?! Anyway like ya vids although I dont know how relevant they are at 1 year old..

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

Most of the glitch guides have been patched, but most of the guides that are less than 2 year old are still completely or at least mostly relevant :)

@janotil1778 3 года назад

is there anything simple in this game?

@SteveAkaDarktimes 2 года назад

you press LMB to attack the rat-thing.

@pineapple8034 3 года назад

love your content bro keep it up!

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Why thank you very much kind sir of the internet! Will do!

@spartanblu5862 Год назад

I crafted a red item yesterday at around lvl 15. Only red item to get from crafting so far

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

Wait what?!? Pretty sure that's not supposed to be possible unless it's something they have added in a patch in the past 6 months xD

@maph12 3 года назад

Doing god's work.

@foolicooli 2 года назад

I got 1 red item coming up on first 200 hours

@The_Lone_Outlaw Год назад

Can someone please simply and clearly explain how to get better gear? All these numbers and probability shit has gone miles over my head and now I’m actually more confused then before. To get better stuff, be higher level, open the best chests possible then it’ll just gradually improve each chest like a staircase?

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

Pretty much yeah :) If you just keep playing and keep opening chests you will get better and better gear and eventually arrive at maximum power regardless of how you do it. This was just a method by which to optimize how quickly you arrived at max power! Hope that clarifies!

@chadcowman6293 2 года назад

I need reds faster. what do I dooooo??

@Summa_cumme_laude Год назад

Thx for the video. But, we have to talk about cocain.

@ThePartyKnife Год назад

@seanlogronioduremdes2693 3 года назад

Aha we meet again

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

At last! The circle is now complete! When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master!

@muhammadujaama631 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife NERD! 😁

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

@@muhammadujaama631 And proud of it!

@muhammadujaama631 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife as you should be!

@lughfiregod16 3 года назад

Pretty new to the game myself, sitting at 190 hours right now. So the basics are very appreciated. I haven't counted my chests sadly, but I've gotten 5 reds in the time, and none of them I acquired before switching to legend difficulty. I'd also like to point out that completing a Chaos Wastes run gives you at least 2 emperor chests, and a 3rd if you scored well enough. Seems like a great way to farm reds, especially because your gear stats do not matter for this game mode. :)

@vinson3505 3 года назад

So like the memes, cata really doesn't provide any better rewards? Just a more interesting challenge.

@ThePartyKnife 3 года назад

Yes that is correct. Cataclysm was a difficulty that was added into the game with the wind of magic DLC and I think Fatshark was afraid that people would get mad if they had a paywall blocking people from higher drop rates. :P

@vinson3505 3 года назад

@@ThePartyKnife Oh yea that is a good point. Wow they aren't so bad I guess. ha

@aetherblackbolt1301 3 года назад

It's hard to call it pay to win when Cata is significantly harder. A no-book Cata run is much harder than a full-book Legend run - the only times it isnt is when you have crap allies from randoms. I dont think theres any issue in Cata giving better loot - I would just give a agyranteed emp vault on Cata success, just so that people dont start hunting for books on Cata as well and ruining the experience.

@wolfsenses2517 2 года назад

10:25 I actually started playing this game 2 days ago, and I have now Sienna at lvl 14. I managed to get TWO orange items in a ROW in lootboxes. Therefore that chart is mistaken.

@wolfsenses2517 2 года назад

@Papa Joe The box was one you get from the achievements. I don't remember my power level, I must have been around 200 item power. If you read carefully what I wrote, you might notice I said that I had started playing not long ago, therefore I was (and still consider myself a bit) a beginner. I explicitly said it, so you calling me a leech because I don't know stuff about the game is a bit dumb from you. I was just reporting that I had received orange items while not being lvl 15. The end. You should pay more attention and throw less assumptions. In case I'm missing a point, you're free to explain it yourself.