Verstappen vs Vettel: Who’s The Red Bull GOAT? 

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"..9 consecutive wins. Something that Verstappen is yet to surpass" Max: And I took that personally

Once this season is finished compare Max’s season to Vettel’s and it will be a crazy difference. I think max will get 17-18 wins this season, he has already won by 30+ seconds multiple times and is not looking like slowing down considering he just won Hungry with 33 seconds to spare and in Austria pitted at the end last lap to go for fastest lap and still won. He is crazy dominant this season and I think once it is all said and done it will easily be the most dominant season ever seen in a Redbull

Sebs 2012 season shows a lot too with 6 world champions on the grid

Adrian Newey is the real red bull GOAT

One thing we can all agree on is that both are legends. Unless you are a Hamilton fan, in which case you say both are frauds.

Update 0:56 he suprassed it

I feel like Vettel and schumi have something about them, that make them better than their statistically superior opposites

The similarities are crazy between the two, both were rb academy drivers, took the record for youngest winner, beat Lewis Hamilton in Abu Dhabi for their first championship (I know in 2010 there where multiple title contenders but Lewis was one of them) got criticized for the way they treated their teammates (ex:multi-21 for seb and Brazil 2022 for Max) a Ferrari was the main challenger for one of their championships and layed down an absolutely dominant season (with Max perhaps also breaking the wins in a row record just like seb did in 2013)

Vettel already spoke in an interview in Red Bull's Hangar, that he thinks Max is an absolute master of his craft. Pulling of moves and actions, which left Seb in awe and aknowledging he wouldn't be able to do that - and certainly not within that fraction of a moment where the opportunity arose. Nuff said...

If the hybrid era never happened vettel would be a 9 time champion

Max will be top 3 greatest once he is done. Myabe even the greastest who knows. Same cannot be said about Vettel. Great guy but nowhere close to Max Lewis Schumi.

I find it both laughable and nonsensical to say only Lewis Hamilton was Max's only closest opposition, because Max won 10 races and Lewis winning 8 races, but Lewis only had 5 wins until he took his last engine, which was so fast that it won the next 3 races easily and would of won the 4th and last race if it wasn't for a safety car. On the other side, you had Max, who didn't have a spare brand new engine like Lewis had, and the reason for that is because Lewis took Max clean out of the race at Silverstone and sent him into the wall at 185mph and ruined that engine. So Lewis was at fault for the incident and penalised for it, but he still won the race and gained 25points over Max and gained an extra engine too. Each driver is allowed 3 engines per season, roughly working out at 7 races per engine, but Max had to do 11 races with each engine or get a 5 place grid penalty and put him behind Lewis on track. It was clear to see that the Mercedes of Lewis with the brand new engine was by far quicker than every other car on track, including the sister Mercedes car. So in my opinion, if Lewis hadn't of taken Max out of the race at Silverstone, he would either of won, as he was in the lead at the time, or he would of finished 2nd and giving him 18 points and still have 3 engines and that would of made the 5 races very different, but even if Lewis did still win them races, the 25points for winning or the 18 points for coming 2nd at Silverstone, would of been enough either way for Max to win the title even by finishing 2nd in the last race. So people who say he didn't deserve it, are just ignorant or biased towards Lewis but either way, Max had nothing to do with the decision-making off track, he was only in control of what happened with him and his car on the track, and that is certainly NOT CHEATING!

I love both ❤ . Max is better in race's & Seb is better in quli . But both are very close in this two points .

Vettel competition Schumacher prime alonso prime Hamilton kimi and rosberg Max competition Leclerc 40year old alonso 38 year old Lewis

Vettel is the greatest in stats, Verstappen the greatest in speed.

Imagine not talking about performance in rain.. max is litterally a god in those conditions

Prime Vettel All the Way Was Nostalgic

Verstappen getting outqualified is also in the carsetups/designs on the grid: Especially Ferrari. Ferrari made a car that was great in 1 lap, but with horrendous cardeg. Whilst Verstappen always preferred Sunday-focused carsetup, knowing he can get passed any competition on Sundays if he sacrifices a bit of the 1-lap pace on the Saturday.

My man did not make this opinion before the 2023 season finished, but still gud gud video brodie

Verstappen has secured perfect 10 in 2023 and Max's fight in 2021 was much better than any Sebastian championship. We have to see records also. Max is the youngest driver to score points and win a race. Whereas Seb is the youngest driver to win a world championship. He has already won 2023 which bags him with 3 championships and more will chances will come. According to me Max is the better one but got to admit that the 2012 season was also a blockbuster in which Vettel won . Being a max fan I admit Seb will always remain a legend of the sport.

At the Austria tv Sebastian and Max where in the same show after the end of last sensing. Vettel said that Max puls of moves he Cannot do.

Seb… it was seb it is seb it will always be seb

I'm a verstappen fan from the netherlands, but yes. Seb is Goat. Always be!

How come all the experts talk about Senna, Schumi, Ham and Verstappen as the goat and never about Vettel? I think there’s a reason for that..

Different time different events just can't do comparison

2023 is basically Maxie shitting on all the records achievable in one season

Season 2023 is coming to a close. Max literally broke almost all records with the most impressive of the winning percentage. He did also win 10 in a row and currently is again on a winning streak. He is already in 50+ wins and that all at age 26. That is insane. If he does win the title in 2024. This debate will be over.

As expected, prime seb is better 👍

Easily Verstappen, had Verstappen was in Red Bull in 2009, he would have won the championship

Vettel! He had a lot more competition in 2010 and 2012. The rb6 was quick in qualifying but in the mix in the race. It was the slowest among the Mclaren and Ferrari in straight line. Different to nowadays redbull which is the absolute best. Max won in 2021 in a very controversial way! Redbull was an inexperienced team compared to today!

Seb and Max are legends, and so is Newey. The winner is the combination of a fast car and driver's talent and ruthlessness.

Guys even if Max had let Checo through in Brazil, he would get 2 more points and he would be 1 point behind Leclerc so he didn't lose anything

Max. Max all day. Seb is a smiley sniper. Max is a cold blooded strangler.

Can't really compare qualifying records when Max and current Red Bull is known for setting up the car for the race specifically

I think Max is the bigger one because of the context of his first title... going up against probably the greatest driver ever after years of dominance and beat him! No challenge will be bigger to Verstappen then his first title... from now on, i think he only loses if Ferrari or Mercedes develop a better car than Red Bull.

Vettel is Great and one of my all time favorites but Max is on par with Schumacher and Senna. If he doesn't retire ealry in his career he'll break all the rules

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Wasn't Vettel the guy who was driven to crap by this Australian guy called Daniel Ricciardo? Funny enough that same Australian also got the fastest lap time in "F1 star in a reasonably priced car" (even before Lewis). Ergo, that Danny Ric seems very fast.....and got smoked by.... I'll let you figure this out. If course everyone must have their own opinion, but seriously? Oh well...

4 months later... what debate?

A few months later: this item aged like fine milk

you can't just go to the track with a smile.... Daniel Riccardo: hold my bandages.

Vettel is the one and only.

I'll save your time, VETTEL.

This is so obvious, it’s Max Verstappen.

Vettel never was a really consistent driver. That's also why he never achieved a world championship 🏆 for Ferrari. Max is a much better driver.

I personally think Max is better

i think 2023 season is his peak

The simple answer is, as great as Seb was, during his dominating years Webber was very close to him and often beat him, while once Max matured a bit, he was simply unbeatable by any teammate. Lewis was beaten by Nico and needed a spineless #2 like Bottas (who still managed to beat him sometimes) to secure his string of WDCs. As I write this, Max just won at Spa lapping between 1 and 2 seconds faster than anyone else, after starting 6th because of a gearbox replacement penalty. Neither Seb nor Lewis ever achieved that level of superiority.

As of today Max has 17 this year, possibly going for 19. I think that seals this debate lol.

Couple of points here. The Suzuka gap Max had is even more impressive when you consider that they only did about half a race because of all the rain. He basically pulled a gap of about a second a lap in the rain, the gap would have been almost double had the full race been ran. Besides that, i think Max is very much better than Vettel ever was. Max is better at wheel-to-wheel and has better racecraft than Vettel ever did. Max has won from various positions on the grid, where Vettel has only won when he started from the first three positions. Since the race is more of a marathon, where qualifying is more of a sprint, i'd say Max is the better racer. In the race you need to not only be fast, also very consistent with lap times, have to do strategy and pit stops etc., where qualifying is just be fast, which is a lot simpler when you ask me (though not necessarily easy, mind you). Max is fast as well as consistent and can basically make any strategy (except for maybe the most outlandish, though they might just try that once) work. Add to that Max had to contend with a ferrari that was clearly a better qualifying car than a race car, where the RB is the very opposite. All in all, it adds up to Max being better than Vettel ever was. Not to mention Vettel wasn't able to do much at ferrari, so he isn't all that ruthless. Max would go to ferrari and either do the same as Schumacher did or destroy that entire team from within. He is ruthless enough not to take any shit from them whatsoever. Vettel was far more impressed and in awe of finally getting to drive for the same team as his hero did, that took a lot of his edge away from him. Max does not have that problem.

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correction. Shumi's record was in 2004 with 13/18 wins

this has aged well .... 🤣🤣🤣

Max is a legend and still young. So yeah max is King of F1 💯🔥

Incorrect: Schumacher won 13/18 in 2004 and 11/17 in 2002. However, arguably his 2002 campaign was the superior, as the 17/17 podiums finishes means a staggering 100% percentage that's mathematically unsurpassable.

if 2013 season had more races vettel would had most consecutive wins all time

I agree

Vettle

Verstappen will surpass Seb next year in terms of total wins and equal his record on titles, I will reserve my comment until November 2024.

Max, better stats.

I don't know who's the better driver but we know Vettel has better charisma and Sense of humour than Max Verstappen 😅😅

Vettel 013 all day idc. And he’s better than the Dutch (for now) unless he comes back. Vettel was so good ppl were bored n started booing him but where was the boos when Hamilton was Dominating

I feel like if you made this video again today, Verstappen would be as dominant as he was in 2023

I believe max have speed but less competitive gird then Vettel have .... remember in 2012 6 greater driver on grid ..... And last race of 2012 ... Vettel pull WC from freando.. with damage car

Max.

VER's still got a couple of years

missed a chance to say "i just had to go and poke the HORNERS nest"

Vettel is better because there was less races and better drivers in 2013

Ok, just here to leave my hate comment:😏 On his best day, Crashstappen can't lace Seb's shoes. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Max is a literal racing machine, his childhood is just lose race = beat by dad.

Not to say max has had it easy but when vettel won titles it was against 6 other world champions at the pinacle of F1. When max won it in 2021 it was insane but the rest of them have come from others mistakes and a car on steroids.

vettel was absolutely hated and booed at almost every race in 2013. i believe that says enough

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You are arguing simultaneously that: 1. When Verstappen qualified on top it was because of the car 2. When Verstappen didn't qualify on top it was because of the driver That's patently absurd. Verstappen outqualified Perez 18 to 4 and held the biggest pace difference between teammates after Albon and Latifi. In 2022 Ferrari had the quicker car before the summer break. Verstappen only took a lead in the championship because of his consistency and because Ferrari and Leclerc kept making errors. Also the notion that the competition was tougher in 2013 is just silly. Button was in a McLaren that was just a midfield car. Hamilton was in a Mercedes that wasn't any more competitive than the Mercedes of 2022. And if we are just going to name a bunch of skilled drivers: the grid from 2022 had Alonso, Leclerc, Hamilton, Russell, Sainz, Vettel, Norris and Verstappen. Do you really want to pretend that the newer generation of drivers is somehow inferior? You're not making an argument. You're just making assertions.

Both, but different eras. All of these comparisons are contrived. Different eras, different cars, etc. Put either in the other’s car would prove little. Both hard cars based on their individual driving styles.

For now I think Seb is definitely better than Verstappen, however if you just let Verstappen cook few more seasons he might just become better than Seb, and i kinda feel (with how he drives, thinks and thrives) that Verstappen will become 7 times or perhaps more.

I personally think Max is the better driver, but many people are blinded by nostalgia. Sebastian was great at driving that particular car, but once the regulations changed he was beaten by every single teammate and seemed to struggle a lot. Sebastian has a championship contending car for 6 seasons (arguably 7) while this is only Max’s 3rd year with a championship contending car.

Verstappen + Vettel = Schumacher. Legacy still lives.

I say yes and don't even think about to bring "oh no my tyres" guy in

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There is no debate Max is not close to seb Seb is worlds better than max

Vettel was beat by Riccardo 😂😂😂

Max took this too personally in 2023 🤣

Vettle didn't need Mark Webber to help him win!!

Max going to be goat of this sport not just redbull

Fernando being there for both😭

Well, I think it's fair to say the prime debate has been settled this season.

Vettel had a lot more competition

this video did not age well

I think all the Seb fans are a littlebit fan of Verstappen aswell. Is verry posible. But who the better driver is, between Vettel & Verstappen. Then my answer gona be Max Verstappen. For all who read this. .. who is the better one? Sebastian or Max??

Dutch F1 fan here. I have to admit you have good points. Vettel is an absolute beast of a driver and before Max entered the scene, I was actually a Vettel fan. I do think these comparisons are hard to make. There are so many variables to take into consideration that it is near impossible to make a decent comparison. But, both Max and Seb are amazing drivers and definitely the best of the best. I can't even choose a winner between both of them to be honest. Love them both.

Both the actions of Vettel and Verstappen were paybacks to their teammates… would have been better if mentioned it. They are teamplayers until you cross them.. Shines a more honest light then just being greedy

No one gets more hate for being too good except a Red Bull driver who's surname starts with V.

the young vettel, before becomes a dad, is a monster.

vettel is way better

Vettel himself has stated that Verstappen was doing things that he wasn't capable of. I think a better comparison is the fact that Verstappen was able to beat Hamilton in 2021 in an inferior car, where Vettel failed in 2017 and 2018 in a similar inferior car. I think it is pretty obvious that Verstappen is the more consistent driver. And you can't really separate Vettlel 2013 from Vettel 2014 - 2022. It just reflects on how dominant Vettels car actually was in 2013.

At Sebs time there were some legendary drivers like kimi, alonso, shumi, Lewis and more and at that time it was brutal compitition, if you watched 2012 season you know what I'm talking about, to be honest the competition seb won in is breathtaking and that why Vettel is better than max but max is also good

Max is the best ever 🥳

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