Versus Series | Tidus Vs. Zack Fair 

I agree lol

Thank you!!!! Zack's the reason I even like final fantasy!

Same here.:')

Mircea Baltimore Thank You Mircea that really means alot.

+Mircea Baltimore My thoughts exactly.

Would love to see Angeal vs Auron. The only problem is...Angeal really didnt get much action compared to Sephiroth and Genesis. I dont think you can just go off and say that Angeal is just a carbon copy of Zack with 5-10 extra years of experience but thats just my observation. If 3tr does do an Angeal vs Auron, I'd still watch it, cause I like Angeal's story.

Oh dear well then I would suggest you not to watch my Tidus vs. Cloud match up if you haven't already you may not like that one. But I do and will continue to stand by that videos outcome.

Uh...Tidus is not a "Human". Have you even played Final Fantasy X? He is from a dream world that is dreamed up by Gods. Tidus is also dreamed up by Gods. He is no human.

Technical he's kinda a spirit since Zanarkand did exist in FFX before Sin destroyed the city and in reality Tidus dies along with all everyone else in Zanarkand during its destruction even Jecht admitted offering himself to become the Final Aeon that he wanted his son to be on "top of the world" as a blitzball player but acknowledges that both Tidus and Zanarkand are gone, but the Faith of Bahamut kept Tidus alive similar to an "unsent" like Auron so yeah Tidus is still a human well a dead human to be exact. 😓

Ok Jasper let me explain. In my opinion Zack vs Tidus is a contest between an fully trained power dueliest in Zack and and experienced Speed fencer in Tidus. Both Zack and Tidus have knowledge on how to engage the other with Zack having fought the greatest of speed fencers Sephiroth and Tidus knowing how to engage power duelist thanks to Kamirhi and Auron. What gives Zack the win here is that he has the far more effective weapon and his physical capablities allow him to take more damage than Tidus which in this fight all Zack would need to do is outlast Tidus until he burn out his stamia. Now the difference between this match and Tidus Vs. Cloud is that Cloud has no idea how to fight against Speed Fencers and does not have the combative training and experience that Zack did. One must remember that up until Zacks death he has a minimum of 10 years of Combat experience and Training while Cloud had less then a year between the time of Zacks death and the beginning of FF7. Now Cloud did gain somewhat of an understanding of Zacks fighting style in the time frame of FF7 but he did not master it to same level as Zack did by the end FF7 and Cloud had a lot of help over the course of the game while Zack always fought alone. Now in my opinion there are 2 diffrent Clouds there is FF7 Cloud and then there is Advent Children Cloud who easily surpasses Zack as a combatant. In my Tidus Vs. Cloud match, Tidus would be fight the weaker of the two versions if he were to fight Advent Children Cloud Tidus would loss without question. But FF7 Cloud is a much younger and less experience combatant which puts him on par with Tidus in terms of the amount of actually combat experience that they both have. Now in my Zack Vs. Cloud match up Zack would be fight Advent Children Cloud not FF7 Cloud if he was fighting FF7 Cloud Zack would win easily but at the end of the day by the time of Advent Children, Cloud had taking all of Zack's skills and evolved it the next level which is something that Zack never lived long enough to do. Now this is a quick explanation on why the matches played out the way they did but if you would like me to go into more detail let me know and I would be more then happen to explain more.

+3TopicsReviewer Sorry bro but Cloud has more magic, skill, strength and speed than Zack and tidus. Tidus may be able to flip and dodge quick but not as much as Cloud. And Cloud has experience fighting a fencer. Sephiroth. Zack lost to Sephiroth like bad when Cloud seems to always beat him whether it is in kingdom hearts, dissidia ect ect. Sure Cloud had help through the game but when did Zack even fight any of the weapons? none. Sure he fought summons but they aren't as strong as the weapons. And think about this jenova, safer Sephiroth would be impossible for Zack to take on alone and I'm sure he would need help. You're not doing Cloud justice.

Thy 72eaper OK 72eaper let me explain this step by step. #1 Cloud has no experience fighting a Speed fencer during FF7 I am using Cloud as he was during the game not Advent Children. Cloud would lose in a heart beat against a 100% healthy Sephiroth (do I need to make an entire video explaining this because I will) ? #2 Yes Cloud does have magic but Tidus magic is more focused on enhancing his speed and slowing down his opponent and yes Tidus could easily dodge Clouds magical attacks because Tidus has experince fighting along side Lulu who is many time more powerful then Cloud which means that Tidus has knowledge with how to deal with people who use magic and Cloud is a more of sword fighter then is he is a magic user. Members of Solider were trained to use physical combat and only rely on magic as last resort and Cloud is just not that powerful and on a final note having Fought along side power fighters Tidus knows how to engage them and how to exploit there weakness. Cloud is tied with another character as my 2nd favorite FF character but even I will admit that Cloud is a punk BITCH compared to how badass he became in Advent Children. Now I know that for many fans this outcome is had if not impossible to accept but this is one of the many match ups that I am sticking with and have no plans on changing. Hell if it would please the viewer I will make a FF7 Cloud match against AC Cloud match to reveal the combative differences between to two to show that Cloud during FF7 is just not that strong. By the end of the game I wouldn't even say he is a strong as Zack was by the time he died. But if you still disagree then that is fine. I have had this discussion for months with tons of people bringing up the same arguments and I am just tired of it. I have said my piece and now have moved on to other match ups.

+3TopicsReviewer 😳 damn bro you just finished him

+FrOsTyBlUe102 Yeah.. no he didn't. Still didn't convince me.

It's either him or Squall. But Squall actually has military training and is suppose to be a combat and tactical genius. Tidus goes by with his sheer athleticism alone.

That doesn't exactly make sense. Genesis said a modified version of Jenova's power runs through him. While he may have resisted the process, the Jenova cells did have an effect. Just not to the full extent, as evidenced by the fact that his S cells aren't pure. But the power of Jenova is in him, as evidenced by the fact that when the Genesis copy eats his hair, it mutates him. Who knows, maybe it was just an error on their part.

That good to hear David, just as a heads up I will be using Zack again in a future match up aswell.

awesome! and love your vids bro keep up the great work

amen to that!

Thank You Jacob I have alot of fun making these and many more are to come.

***** Oh I'm aware he can be fast enough to dodge bullets but I mean his sword skills are not very fast.

3TopicsReviewer I meant that in the introduction scene he uses his sword to actually deflect bullets, not just dodge. But again that was with a regular broadsword, not the Buster Sword...

***** Bullets are one thing, dedicated speed power blows from Sephiroth are another.

3TopicsReviewer Oh yes, Sephiroth is a whole other league of... well, everything. Having been experimented on and enhanced since before his birth, he's both stronger and faster than any other SOLDIER, according to canon, not to mention a strategical and tactical genius, so...

im currently recording Tidus vs Cloud (FF7) now.

Uh oh RIP Tidus. Wait FF7 specific Cloud? Hmm, ya that could be interesting!

+Nicholas Niebank Yeah FF7 cloud, not Advent Children

+Jason Phung true

True, besides if the feats were consistent he'd be up there with cloud. An island busting sea splitting attack...phew

One Life 2 Live I absolutely agree. Compared to all of the other main characters in the FF series, he appears to be the weakest physically, magically, and perhaps even mentally. But on the other hand, he is technically 'dead' or a 'ghost' throughout the entire FF10 game. I think that'd make him him harder to kill, at the very least... at the most, it's the ENTIRE source of his powers.

He's high-middle to high tier actually. He's a construct of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dreams and as a result he has super-human talent in many things. In Dissidia he's the fastest character in the game.

+Babylauncher3000 Doesn't make him that powerful battle wise. We are talking about in terms of pure fighting ability. He is awful, there is no question. Speaking of gameplay mechanics, he isn't even the strongest in his own world don't get me started on dissidia. Thus, the weakest FF Protagonist.

One Life 2 Live His skill as a fighter at the end of his own game in addition how he's been presented in other media like the Dissidia show that your claim that he is "the weakest" is absurd. He's not a traditional solder but his large expanded lineup of buff magic give him the edge over other non-traditional heroes such as Zidane, Vaan, and Ace.

+Babylauncher3000 So basically it's just your opinion. Everybody else seems to share my "absurd" claim though lol. You can find any FF forum with people saying the same thing. I find the fact you need to bring up a non canon game like dissidia as an argument hilarious. Grasping for straws. Tidus skilled at the end of FFX? Bwahahaha. He has incredibly mediocre stats. Wakka is way better, Tidus ONLY has his overdrive to make him useful. Shows what you know. And Typical fanboy mindset.

Yes I am aware of that error. I did make this over a year ago and have update Zack's status.

in fairness I don't think Zack is 6"3 either. Sephiroth officially 6"1 and he was taller than Zack in Crisis Core

+Jamie Flynn Ahhhh no just ignore the mistakes the creators made. Everything is perfect forever.....

+Jamie Flynn I really do not think sephiroth is 6ft 1. Angeal was stated to be 6ft 5 and he is the exact same hieght as Sephiroth

it was moderate Cloud vs Zack which Cloud is immensely stronger then when he was in ff7 while when he was against Tidus he was cloud of ff7 with i believe would lose to Zack.

+Kintaru the Shiny Lucario (Jeremy Powers) Screwattacks Death Battle series already did that match up. Even thou I disagree with video and the outcome 100% I dont really want to attempt challenging such a successful video.

+3TopicsReviewer I feel like they made Cloud weaker than he is. And half the shit Link did isn't possible in his game. It also seemed like they combined different Links instead of it, and tried giving Cloud an Omnislash he CAN'T do with the Buster Sword. There are more complaints.

+3TopicsReviewer And I doubt bombs and a slice would kill Cloud, and I doubt Link could Z-Target Cloud during Omnislash.

+Kintaru the Shiny Lucario (Jeremy Powers) and i dont belive link would have been fast enough to stop all of omnislash's strikes

+Sammy Fryer Or escape Cross Slash. And a boomerang would NEVER stun Cloud. They let link do things he could NEVER do! Sorry if I seem like a fanboy, I love both series, but it was a really bulshit outcome

+Bryan Soria Caldog or something like that.. rite

+everett watson yeah its caladbog....

nice

Advent Children: Complete Edition, additional scene while Cloud is fighting a certain someone.

+nate smith If I had enough source and I had the courage to I would love to do a Sabin Vs. Snow match up. BTW just to give you some exclusive insight on the Tidus vs. Cloud match up. It will be Tidus by the end of FFX against Cloud during the events of FF7 (not advent children) and they both will have their ultimate weapons.

+3TopicsReviewer Yeah, final fantasy 6 fanboys are ruthless. To them anything after FF6 are for n00bs, although some of them like FF9. Good choice, because Cloud from AC and DOC (Dirge of Cerberus) outclasses Tidus.

the question is what kind of video on Genesis are you looking for ?

+3TopicsReviewer A Versus Series video would be nice.

+3TopicsReviewer on that note could you do a verses between Genises and Squall leonheart

+RoseOfDiamond 91 Ive done Squall vs Auron

3TopicsReviewer​​ You can do squall again cant you? Youve done Zack twice. But if you dont want to thats fine. I dont really know alot of ff characters. But Genesis plays a big role in crises core and never heard from again. It would be great if you could shine some light on this mysterious guy that unless you have played Crises Core, you dont really know he existed. How about Genesis vs Kadaj? :)

+A4 Lotus Nope. I give Cloud the win. She might can beat Ashe and while I hate to say it because I like her, she can beat Paine. Lighting seems like a combination of the two with more skill. Ashe's beauty and Paine's tomboy attitude. Anyway, after Tidus and MAYBE Squall, she is outclassed by the other sword users. She doesn't hold a candle to the likes Cloud, Zack, Sephy, Gabranth, and Cecil.

+nate smith Lighting vs AC Cloud ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Kintaru the Shiny Lucario in Advent Children, Cloud is even more powerful so nope. I give Lighting the win over...Zack maybe. Oh and she can beat Noel and Serah.

+nate smith I know. That was the joke.

Kintaru the Shiny Lucario lol oh...

Hell no

That is a fucking lie