By the time you got back around to hit the key to try and start them again the pre heater was cold. Watch for the light and cycle it two or three times if really cold and then immediately crank. Most likely they use a grid heater instead of a glow plug as well. The CE started because you hit the key to crank immediately of the preheater cycled. Unnecessary wear on the starters and batteries.
Maxwell Green some do and some don’t. It depends on how it was setup from the two factories they came out of. Either way, the way he did it was absolute torture on those starters and batteries. Even if they did stay on after the initial cycle, by the time he back around to it they had went off and were cold again. I’ve done it both ways with using block heaters (preferred method) or just the preheaters. We have never done either one like this and that is down into the teens and maybe single digits a couple times a year.
I’d give serious consideration to having an additional block heater, standby generator for a good size battery charger, or building a garage to house these units- with a heater in the garage. You are not only putting excessive wear on the starters and batteries, but eventually a flywheel will get chewed up also. Good luck, hope something works out for you and your buses, mighty difficult way to go on a cold morning.
He said “Hold the key down” thats not healthy for the busses. The starter will burn up, battery will die quicker, and yea so this guys might need to consider going back to bus training.
At least the ford and international started. A good trick to get that freightliner started, take a heat gun and blow hot air in the intake. It’ll help warm the intake and cylinders up enough to get it started up. I did this with my 01 f350 7.3 during a really cold winter with temperatures up to -21 outside, also a good thing to have on hand to warm the fuel tank if the diesel gels up
That Thomas Saf-T-Liner FS-65 failed to start up because of the windchill that was -10°C Overnight. The temperature was 20°F when he tried to start it up. It was a heap of scrap.
It was a cold start on that Ford Corbeil. 2:10 is when you turned it to the on position to cold start it. The temperature was 20°F when you did it. It is pretty much impossible to start it at -40°C.
Your letting the glow plugs cool down to mu h between cranking... have to glow 2 or 3 times then immediately crank or immediately crank after the glow plug light goes out
Well i wouldn't say modern these buses were made in 2007 I believe so there 14 years old International is now using Cummins engine's in there trucks and buses I don't know why I think it's the maxforce which was there biggest failure they were more problematic engines then the VT365 aka ford 6.0 powerstroke
Also, he never started the bus immeadialty after the 'INTAKE HEATER' or 'WAIT TO START' light went off. That is probaly why the were a little harder to start.
The glowplugs only run for a minute max, so the entire time he has them sitting on accessory the glow plugs aren't doing anything after that minute resulting in the engine needing to crank for a long time to build some heat back up (since diesels run off heat instead of spark). If he flipped it to accessory, and cranked it right as the Wait To Start lights when out they would've fired right up.
@@02intlbluebirdthat starter keeps going and going that’s why the Diesel engine won’t start it wants to but I hope not 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
They do... the dude waited 2 minutes between each cycle before he'd crank them... thats why the ic fired right up after he cranked it when the plug finished its cycle.
