VFX Artists React 103: Dungeons & Dragons, Thor: Love & Thunder 

It was infinitely better than the first big Hollywood attempt at a D&D movie. That one was just nothing but Hollywood cliches and by the numbers nonsense. This D&D movie was written by geeks who actually play D&D.

seriously, its a bummer its so universally loved but didnt get enough people seeing it in theaters

@@KaladinVegapunk Yeah, it makes me sad. A genuinely good film isn't doing that well, when something terrible like Thor Love and Thunder or Fast and Furious earns so much.

@@mr.whatislove3620 Yeah, it's really sad

@@KaladinVegapunk yeah it was the same with Alita Battle Angel.

Truly man. The one shots were just stunning.

Thought they'd talk about the illusion part

​@@kaslu1082 shh

Surprisingly really funny too. I have blast watching it.👌

and the writing, and the acting, and the story, and the humor - just all around a great movie that struck the perfect tone for a fun buddy heist movie

Wowzers. Imagine getting to do something as fun as diving through the waves attached to a a crane on a speedboat and also getting paid millions for the privilege!! (I'd pay millions to DO it!!) 😅 Adam Sandler truly the living the dream, son!

I have some great insight on The Adam Sandler shot in the Zohan Movie. My close friend was an NCAA Finalist in the 200 Butterfly and was selected as the stunt double. He can for sure add more insight to how this was performed - if interested I can pass along the information.

​@@SnakeBiteP07I can concur!! I met him myself!! Body double who did the butterfly! Super cool guy!

I was the body double! I definitely didn't swim, it was all sandler.

OMG! You survived to "The Sound"!

Hahaha, good catch! 😂

I spotted a similar error on a vid a few months ago, but then again, I cant really talk haha 😅

What was the mistake??? I don't see it

@@lone_eye_4107 It says 'Sourcename' where the production company should be credited in the bottom right hand corner.

I saw that and instantly told myself I need to find the first comment I can find about it 😂

As far as I can tell from the trailer, it's not worth it due to a strong feminist trope, unless i missed something and it's not just millennial humor which I very well could have. It completely went through theaters silent in Poland and had basically no advertising apart from YT.

@@boguslav9502 I think Michelle Rodriquez killed in her fight scenes, plus her and Chris Pine I would consider the main leads and their chemistry never seemed off to me at least.

Lmao, imagine being so delicate that you skip watching an entire movie because you half suspect it to have a trope you don't like politically.

@@boguslav9502 real incel energy

Also had some really awesome practical stuff like the dragonborn and aarakokra suits!

Do we see a guest appearance from Adam Sandler in the near future? Hmmmmmm

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Corridor Crew are at Joe Rogan level of VFX guests.

Yes! I'm dying for someone to make a video on that

Absolutely, I was thinking the same thing at the beginning of the movie where most of the practical creatures are. Loved to see it!

I thought they did show some of that in bts stuff. Like when the dragon was pulling Chris pine he was actually being drug behind a vehicle

Same, I want to see so much more about Honor Among Thieves!

The Rule of Cool is how I choose to live my life lol

I just figure the character was a special shifting-focused subclass of druid, since you never see her casting any of the other million spells druids normally have.

Owlbears are Monstrosities, or “animal/animal like creatures that we don’t want druids to shapeshift into” (because Druids in the game can only shapeshift into Beasts, aka normal animals) Also she should have switched to animal forms only twice before resting for an hour With that said, to the hell with the rules, that scene is amazing

Just came here after a year of rewatching this incredible masterpiece of a movie. Some VFX are sketchy, if it weren't for said rule... but oh my freaking God is that ever the best flick to sink your teeth into as a VFX artist. Any movie you can think of, including LotR, somehow, this movies either matches or easily surpasses previous attempts at great visual storytelling. There are ten CD episodes (also corridor) hidden in there, if only for the composition and art design tying everything together. I rarely would do that, but 7.3 or so on IMDB, a score that would make any movie a must-watch for me with the odd disappointment, that's a travesty for a funny yet heartfelt movie, one that appreciates every aspect of the many crafts involved in the making. I myself seriously underappreciated it the first couple of watches, despite having a massive blast. Thought I gave it lots of leeway despite being just "good" - no, that's a masterclass in realizing and crafting new stories from established material. I can't believe the Internet is still not exploding over how great it is, the sequel, while having lots to prove, is hopefully going to change all that.

@@minhuang8848 I was afraid that there wouldn't be a sequel for another 20 years

In 1917 the light is controlled differently, it goes along a line, and they had to know the timing of every scene before where in Thor they don't have to, they just need to record and decide at then end in which direction the light goes

Yeah 1917’s was similar to the cave scene in Half Blood Prince where the light is rotating around the characters the whole time

If I remember correctly, _1917_ used real flares travelling across the set on cables.

They did very similar lighting in Valkyie vs Hela scene from Thor Ragnarok. They probably thougt it looked cool and wanted to improve it in the new movie.

I jumped every time that dang sniper shot at him

Yeah, that was a common trick even in star wars

I only wonder how much water he gulped down... That scene has to have been so incredibly exhausting to record. Adam Sandler is an artist that perplexe me. On one had a lot of what he has done has been so incredibly bad it has to have been intentional, and on the other hand he seems to be very talented when he cares to actually try to act. I remember when he recorded some album with parodies of popular music and he was brilliant! So much talent, and apparently not giving a fuck, but instead making whatever he find amusing knowing very well that most critics will hate it. And yet he will make the money back and then some.

I'm so glad they covered the 10 Commandments.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! don't tell 'em!

Silky smooth, I tell you this!

Disco disco good good

Best Adam Sandler movie ever!

The Avalon is the best haircut

almost all practical effects in that movie. love it

That film is way too overrated and a big ol waste of time lol probably one of the worst Dracula films ever made

Or the demon scenes in End of Days!!

As a former swimmer myself, still some mad props to Adam Sandler for having the proper technique. I could never figure out the timing for butterfly

Should do a series "Recreate on a Budget"

I first this movie in the 80s, as a young child. Years later, when I was a teen in the 90s, I heard about the possible gelatin use as well. What the Corridor Crew guys said sounds more feasible, imo.

I had the chance to see it in the theater in the late '80's/early '90's; the VFX work was untouched with the remaster, which was a 6K scan in 2010. What was fun with the film version in the theater was seeing some negative/IP scratches go SIDEWAYS due to shooting in VistaVision.

@@imagesh1 interesting! I’ve never seen it in a cinema, I bet it’s epic! Isn’t it nuts that we can see movies as old as this way better and clearer than anyone ever saw them originally, maybe even the directors!? There’s no way Technicolor ever worked as well as we can do it digitally now, after a negative rescan, clean-up, precision layer alignment, and localised frame by frame colour grade and contrast correction, for example. Crazy.

Classic Marvel. Maybe if they’d had a competent director 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@AndrewDembouski all there upcoming stuff does

@@AndrewDembouski you blame the director but in this specific example the problem relies on the person in charge of vfx so Victoria Alonso who was the main vfx supervisor of the mcu and has been around since iron man.

@@AndrewDembouski That's a bad take. Taika Waititi is an exceptional director who has made excellent films, including indie pics and the previous Thor film with a huge blockbuster budget. From interviews w cast and him, it is clear that the studio was extremely invasive during and after production, and he himself has said he was disappointed in the final product. Being a great director doesn't mean you can't flub, especially when working under massive studios obsessed with control.

@@AndrewDembouski Ragnarok and Jojo Rabbit, on their own, prove Taika's anything but incompetent. It's fine to not like this film, but to dismiss him as a creative is too far.

Absolutely

%100,000,000,000 YES!!!

I’d love a whole episode on Godzilla! Comparing the classic effects with the modern ones, especially Shin Godzilla, would be great

Yes please. 😊

They already reacted to it in "Artists look at cartoons" section.

It's a bit depressing nowadays watching younger reactors on RU-vid who see effects in films from the 70's, 60's, 50's and automatically think it's "CGI." They just never thought about the possibility that such things could be done without computers.

And to be fair, he was probably middle aged back then so it's very impressive how much athleticism he must have had still had to do a stunt like that.

@@SarcasticPlotRecaps Yeah, hats off to him. It's a weird movie but he sells it.

My favorite part was the illusion of the bard breaking down, lol. "Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck!"

The Greeks should be complaining about that Cleopatra casting too since she was Macedonian lol

It's claimed to be a documentary, and Cleopatra absolutely wasn't black, so I guess yeah, it's the same issue.

Maybe because Cleopatra was not black and they sold it as documentary?. Why would egyptians allow Left radical americans to stole their history? What if Egyptian does malcon X white or Egyptian and sell it as documentary? Not so funny anymore eh? Double standards

Like the Corridor crew indicates, so many people are ignorant of Egyptian history. Egyptians weren’t white, or black, or even Arab. Coptic Christians are the direct descendants of ancient Egyptians, and they were persecuted and colonized by Arabs.

Not to mention a lot of Egyptians are paler than me, which is an almost impossible feat.

Agree. I also just think the filmmakers probably made a mistake from conception. The orbital period of the planet (an extremely fast orbital period for a tidally locked moon would have a very different effect on the lighting than seen in the film [which would probably be cooler to plan an action scene around as it would have alternating periods of light and dark]) would have to be immensely fast, like 1 complete orbit in 5 seconds for the effect to be significant, but it looks more like 30 seconds in the film. When you're cutting to a different shot every few seconds the angle of the lighting has changed less than 60 degrees at 30 seconds per orbit which just isn't significant enough to make the shot look dynamic.

As some one who has zero lighting understanding in editing software I noticed it in the cinema. Maybe its an example of the more you understand the more you dont notice it. The first thing i noticed was the moving lighting during the fight scene.

@@maxpowers4436 Well, the movie calls attention to the moving light. That's unmissable. The issue is that there's no real continuity to it. Despite all the tech, the light moves inconsistently, and with all the cuts and camera moves, you can't really track the lightsource anyway. So the end result is no different than if they'd 'faked' it with regular lights.

@@jasonblalock4429 well its the old 180 rule really isn't it. you can cut from one actor to another and maintain the 180 rules, but the shadows will be flipped, and not necessarily flipped 180 but by some random angle. and the direction of the movement of the light will have changed also. so even with a lot of planning the effect isnt going to be as satisfying as maybe they hoped it would look. Maybe the best way to use this would be to only use continuous shots so theres no cuts at all, so as the camera is rotating the lights and shadows are rotating and you ee everything change smoothly as the camera moves around. It just seems like there were certain shots that didnt work out so the shadows dont move, like that wide shot of gor and his shwdow is off to the side, and its not changing. Maybe they needed more lights to do an effective smooth transition between them to make the effect work, or maybe the lights themselves need to be moving on top of having multiple lights and higher frame rate. Having 6 frames to work with is still 60 degrees between each frame, going from a very clear long shadow on the ground and trying to blend that with another frame thats 60 degrees out is just not going to work, it works good enough for blending shdows on a fce/body, but a long shadow on the ground being 60 degrees different could be meters of distance that you cant just blend from one image to the next, it would just look like one shadow fades out and the other fades in. so its an interesting idea but i for what they wanted to do it wasnt enough. they need the stage lights to move or have far more of them.

I agree and I think the big issue is that the whole set piece is too contrasty and filled with debris to really give a lot of presence to the lighting. It looks too messy, and man a lot of those shots look like they’re 100% CGI anyway (and bad/ugly CGI too)

Loved that game!

I think they’ve reacted to a few shots

Yeah I'd imagine it was. Wren brought that into one of these back when Ragnarok was fresh.

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Boo

I literally found God here.

I'm 11 minutes late and we have dozens of comments now XD

@@aaryanmulaye1683 Yes, you have

Next we'll have a petition to have them remake it for Disney. God that movie was awful." Glad" Disney would rather make a funny frat hammer obsessed boi and make him backtrack LITERALLY ALL OF HIS CHARACTER GROWTH. biggest complaint is eternity. It's not a wishing well, and Thor should've given the "tool to learn to harness your power" to the child who would need control. Nah instead let's give a 5 foot axe to a 3 foot girl cause funny.

They have previously I'm 99% sure. Have a bell ringing that they said this was actually the first time, or one of the first times when giant dragons like we think of in live action today actually appeared. And I think they focused on the fire effects and how well it was done.

Yeah they did Reign of Fire already, since they talk about the scene of the Dragon Ambushing the convoy on the road into the city.

Why’s it so bad now? I can’t find anything on it anymore

I keep hearing people saying that, and as someone who uses Google multiple times every day, I don't notice any dip in the quality of their search. Sure, there are a few more ads at the top of the results, but that's to be expected.

@@DJHolte It's not about the ads, as those get blocked. It's about the relevancy of the results, which has deteriorated.