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VGRestore Ep5: SNES 1-CHIP Black Screen of Death 

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Today I troubleshoot a 1-Chip SNES with the dreaded black screen of death.

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@3vi1J
@3vi1J Год назад
Good job. I just discovered your vids yesterday, and am really enjoying them. I'm more of a software guy, but I like playing at troubleshooting/fixing these things myself and it's nice to learn from the troubleshooting processes of others, and see what kind of common faults they've discovered. Keep up the great vids!
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Год назад
Thanks for watching, means a lot to me. My later videos on Super Nintendo repairs are my better work, in my opinion.
@SparksNZeros
@SparksNZeros 4 года назад
im so glad that you decided to share these videos of surface mounted component repair, its almost impossible to find useful advice, im hoping in the new year i can save so many more systems after being inspired.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Glad to hear and I wish you the best of luck.
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
Quick. Down right up left y b. That's forever in my brain 28yrs later.
@antoniocouto
@antoniocouto 3 года назад
I didn't know that a SNES with the black screen issue could show image with the burn in test cartridge. Tks for this information
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
Some do some don’t, I’ve experienced maybe 8/10 black screen consoles do post to the burn test cart.
@IIIRuin
@IIIRuin 2 года назад
Really love your vids. They're so informative and chill. The tips and advice you give is gold.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 2 года назад
Thanks, one day I’ll get back the desire to fix consoles again. I’m glad people are still enjoying these videos. 👍
@Museo_del_Videojuego
@Museo_del_Videojuego 4 года назад
4:41 ive learn a lot in this channel, thanks, what thing is that the Orange one?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
That’s a desoldering braid or desoldering wick. This is the one I bought it’s 50 feet I tend to use it often. www.amazon.com/dp/B008O9VMQU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yfd0Eb2QFVDKW
@Museo_del_Videojuego
@Museo_del_Videojuego 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer thank u so much how nice the things u do with those death games, i really want to be good at that
@rubenjaimes1194
@rubenjaimes1194 Год назад
That's starfox music though. 🔥
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Год назад
It’s hype!
@ronaldhenson9170
@ronaldhenson9170 4 года назад
I prefer the launch day super Nintendo entertainment system with the 4 rubber feet cartridge locking tab also the sound board the super Nintendo entertainment system has surround sound
@Jazar77
@Jazar77 9 месяцев назад
What is the song being used in this video? Very catchy.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 9 месяцев назад
It’s the sound track to F zero for snes. ❤
@mikekeen1590
@mikekeen1590 2 года назад
I’ve got a one chip that needs help. I got it w/no power cord. I bought an original power cord n it powers up but no signal to tv. Took it apart n cleaned it w/91% alcohol…no difference.
@lejesrimul1985
@lejesrimul1985 4 года назад
What did you use to remove the APU chip? I have several black screen snes' that I would like to try and fix up. Looks like a heat gun, tweezers, and some kind of substance you use with the q-tip?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
A cheap heat gun although, I don’t recommend it. I’ve since got a real hot air rework station that works better. The liquid stuff on a q tip is rosin flux.
@shawnnowell7769
@shawnnowell7769 2 года назад
I know this video is older so if I don’t get a response that’s okay, but I have an snes that does sound but no picture, and another that only gets the power light, think that could be cpu or sound chip related?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 2 года назад
Try the snes with sound no picture with RF and see if the picture works, if it does you could have a missing passive component on the bottom of the board, or a bad/dirty AV port. As for the one with the LED only, try the same thing. Does the picture change to a black screen, or does it still say no signal?
@slowyo9645
@slowyo9645 Год назад
Need help with an issue - Just recently replaced/soldered a new power port (old skool) for my Super Nintendo. After I did this, it erased all my saved data on Super Mario World and Super Mario All-Stars. Both batteries in both cartridges are fine - this issue only starting happening after I replaced the power port. Thanks for any help!
@laumpolumpio
@laumpolumpio 3 месяца назад
Hey, I have a SHVC-CPU 01 that when turned on the PSU enters into protection mode, I have removed the Voltage regulator from the PCB to see if that was the shorted part but it does the same, does the SNES have more than 1 voltage regulator??
@71dembonesTV
@71dembonesTV 2 года назад
another great video my friend. is a bad APU known to cause black screen on the other non-SHVC revisions that aren't 1-CHIPs?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 2 года назад
Yeah APU-01 Models and even snes juniors.
@71dembonesTV
@71dembonesTV 2 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer thanks for letting me know; you're the man. I'm definitely getting one of those test carts to see if I can dig a little deeper on my pile of black screen consoles
@gobosox207
@gobosox207 3 года назад
Another great video. I have the black screen of death on mine too. I'm thinking it's the sound chip though because I can get lufia 2 to boot to the first two screens before it goes black. What do you think bud? Didn't get as far along in your videos from Friday that I would have liked but I'll catch up eventually lol.
@BestBuddies.
@BestBuddies. 7 месяцев назад
I have a 1 chip when I power it up it does not play anything just black screen zero life.... Prior to that if you just tapped the snes not even hard it would reset games I have had this snes since 92 as a kid. I am not sure how to fix this I would love to get it fixed
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 7 месяцев назад
You probably have a dirty pin connector.
@BestBuddies.
@BestBuddies. 7 месяцев назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer cleaned everything out verrrry well and still no dice!
@dustin2dust351
@dustin2dust351 4 года назад
Put on surface mount work videos. 👍👍
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Will do, I’m still learning how to do surface mount stuff. I have done some more on other videos on my channel.
@joshuawilliams9560
@joshuawilliams9560 4 года назад
Loving the content. I have a SNES with the black screen of death. There is no corrosion on the pin connectors at all, the board looks very clean. How much would you really consider that it is the APU board that causes it to do the BSOD? I’ve been cleaned everything super thoroughly. Any help would be appreciated. LOVE the channel and subbed of course!
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
You can usually rule out an APU board fault if you try to fire up super street fighter 2 and you get an initial “licensed by Nintendo” screen. Some nintendo games will also fire up the initial Nintendo screen and lock up once the console doesn’t detect the sound board, so you could try to replace the SHVC board if you’re getting initial screens on some games.
@joshuawilliams9560
@joshuawilliams9560 4 года назад
PunkNDisorderlyGamer I would love to show you what I have and pick your brain on a few things. This is awesome what you’re doing man! Saving history and preserving culture!
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
joshua williams yes I love doing this as well, post some videos of your problems and maybe I can help you out. I’d be glad to help.
@Quantum_ShotsTV
@Quantum_ShotsTV 3 года назад
Hi hopefully you can help me but my SNES only reads certain games it can play some but others won't work I know it's not the games cuss they work with my other SNES what do you think it can be?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
Check out some of my more recent videos to see if they help you out. You may have a bad PPU
@joshuawilliams9560
@joshuawilliams9560 4 года назад
I also have another SNES that only reads certain games. Which is weird, because I star fox fires up every single time.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Sometimes it’s like that, when certain hardware fails.
@xCrazyRoosterx
@xCrazyRoosterx 3 года назад
Hello! I have a 1 chip snes, it powers on but no picture or sound. I tried with working games tested on my working snes. I have a tube television with the blue screen as default. When I power on the snes, the screen doesn't even turn black, it remains blue, there's no signal of picture or sound at all. I tried with AV and RF cables. Next, I tried cleaning the game slot and the board itself, tested all pins of the game slot and the reset button. There's no sign of corrosion or broken traces on the board. Do you think changing the capacitors should help? Great video and greetings from Brazil!
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
Michel Lima changing the capacitors may help, I don’t think you have a bad APU in this case.
@RPAJ
@RPAJ 3 года назад
My SNES also have a black screen. Its nothing happen, even didnt appear anything on the screen, just black with no sound.
@wickerxman
@wickerxman 3 года назад
Any idea why the cursor would only go up in the test cart menu instead of down? It runs none of the tests either
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
It’s scrolls only down by pressing the “select” button not the d pad. It wouldn’t run any of the tests because it checks for APU circuitry first, this could be replicated with an original SNES by removing the detachable SHVC sound module and attempting to run the test it will lock up at the start of the burn in test.
@wickerxman
@wickerxman 3 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Yes when I press select it just goes upward to the top heading and the timer resets.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
@@wickerxman that’s very odd, I would guess it’s not a 1-chip model? If it’s an early revision it’s probably a bad CPU.
@kultur-vultur
@kultur-vultur 2 года назад
Do you have sound still when the S APU chip goes? I have sound, no video, I haven't recapped or changed the fuse yet but I'm expecting the worst case already.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 2 года назад
No video usually means something other than S-Apu or any other audio chip.
@jessebueno1972
@jessebueno1972 3 года назад
7:20 of the video you didnt know the part name you replaced, but you were almost right "ceramic resonator" from what I read their fail rates are at 0.1%
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
Yeah this video was an early one, I was still learning.
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
In your experience which chip fails the most often to least often?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
CPU fails most often, PPU they fail about same rate. Now the cpu had 2 revisions before they changed to the one chip, (CPU, CPU-A, and CPU-B) CPU and CPU-A fail quite often, I’ve never had a CPU-B fail on me.
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer wow dude just wow this is awesome info. I just bought 10 super famicoms for parts to fix 3 snes.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Rock On nice if you need help give a shout, also check out my famicom repair videos.
@ericxpokinatchax5215
@ericxpokinatchax5215 2 года назад
My street fighter 2 cart has this issue but other games work just fine. Anyone know what it could be?
@michaelgoedeker9697
@michaelgoedeker9697 4 года назад
Great video!! Thank you
@BurgerWeeze
@BurgerWeeze 4 года назад
Hey @PunkNDisorderlyGamer, I have a 2 Chip SNES with the black screen of death. How likely do you think is it for the sound chip to be the problem? And do you think changing the capacitors would help at all? Thanks for the video though, great in depth analysis!
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
In this case swapping the caps didn’t help, for the previous owner. Try starting up street fighter 2, if you get the “licensed by Nintendo” screen it could be the APU chip. The console will try to recognize the game but, it will lock up if it fails to detect the APU chip. If you’re not getting any initial Nintendo screens on any game it could mean another chip is bad. I would try cleaning the cart slot first see if any debris or bent pins are causing the problem.
@BurgerWeeze
@BurgerWeeze 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Unfortunately I don't have Street Fighter 2, haha. And I've already cleaned the cartridge slot and my game PLENTY. As well as the entire unit itself, so anything dirt related shouldn't be the issue.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Lukas Sarnow try all the games you have see if you can get one to show the Nintendo screen.
@BurgerWeeze
@BurgerWeeze 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Okay I will try that later this week. Thanks for the quick responses, I'll post again after I checked every game.
@inputfunny
@inputfunny 3 года назад
@@BurgerWeeze 10 months later...
@juliocarter9359
@juliocarter9359 3 года назад
como se llama el liquido que hechas sobre los chip antes de calentar
@Huddy40
@Huddy40 4 года назад
Great video, instant sub. Do you know how to replace a 62 pin connector on a 1 chip board?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Thanks glad you enjoyed
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Yes, to swap out the 62 pin connector on a one chip it’s a bit more difficult. You have to desolder it from the board, one through hole at a time. If you do swap it out might I suggest replacing it with one from a 2 chip that way you could remove and clean it easier.
@Huddy40
@Huddy40 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer really appreciate the advice, the 2 chip idea I'll go with. I have a working 1 chip system but has a broken pin on the connector. I assume I'll have to replace it eventually and when I do I'll take your advice. Thanks again, really dig the channel.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Huddy thanks, I’m really glad you enjoy the channel. Let me know if you need anymore help.
@juanchavez4514
@juanchavez4514 3 года назад
Do you have any advice for me, I have a super nintendo that only has a black screen And sometimes when games are booted, I can hear music and Mario sound effects
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
So I've been messing around an early revision with the removable sound board. I get a very quick blip of a red screen. Does this sound like anything to you? A certain bad chip?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
No, I’ve never had that happen before.
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer after the caps fuses and cables what's the first chip you'd swap out on that board?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Rock On probably the cpu. What games have you tried? Have they all had the same black screen? Do you have a burn in test cart?
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I ordered a burn in after seeing you use one. I see what it says when it comes in.
@user-wj9xq7ig2v
@user-wj9xq7ig2v 4 года назад
Any idea what a green screen with some blocks indicate?
@RPAJ
@RPAJ 3 года назад
Can i borrow your screwdriver?
@VENUEATHENS
@VENUEATHENS 4 года назад
Mines the SNS-CPU-RGB-02, It's getting a black screen.. It powers on but no sound or picture.. I tried cleaning the port for the game but still no difference
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Usually those consoles are reliable. I’m willing to bet you’ve overlooked something. Did you clean the game? Also, on that revision you can’t remove the cart connector, check for bent pins or any debris in the cart slot.
@VENUEATHENS
@VENUEATHENS 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I bought it from someone for $30, took a chance on it.. It was my favorite console as kid and I never had one.. So I cleaned the games, nothing changed, I did as you, and cleaned up the board/pins with some alcohol and toothbrush.. I then tried to see if the cartridge connector can be removed, mines looks like the variant where it seems to be soldered to the board, with 2 plastic pins on each side in the board holding it in place. I first thought it can be removed, so I tried to push on those plastic pins.. But after seeing the variant which cannot be removed I stopped, not to cause damage.. I did notice one of the tiny pins on what seems to be ram/memory chip (upper left by cartridge connector) looked slightly brown than the others, which looked shiny.. So again I tried to clean that also with some alcohol. Haven't tried to turn on the console yet.. The unit was pristine inside and out, basically like new.. The shell was perfect no yellowing, no cracks, holes or scratches, nothing.. Inside was also very clean, no corrosion spills or messes.. I don't think anyone had taken it apart either.. The guy I bought it from said it was his dads, and it was sitting in storage for 8 years.. I don't really have soldering tools or the everdrive/burn in cartridge test, so I can't run any tests on the unit to know what is actually the problem.. I don't want to do anything past cleaning it.. :(
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Tony Atin spray some alcohol on the game cartridge pins and insert and remove the game a few times. Then try to fire it up don’t worry if the pins or contacts are still wet from the alcohol. I’m willing to bet it’s fine.
@VENUEATHENS
@VENUEATHENS 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer thank you, I will try that.. incidentally if I can't get it to work, would you consider, be interested in working on this unit? I'm not sure where you're located, I can send the board out to you, you can tell me what you need with it, quote me a price, and I can make a payment to you through Venmo..
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Tony Atin unfortunately, I’m not doing any services right now, I’m super busy at the moment. Even if I did take it in for service it would probably cost more than just buying a new one altogether. If you factor in labor, shipping and if it needs a new CPU I simply don’t have any on hand at the moment not cost effective to be honest. If the exterior is in good shape, try to source a working unit with a beat up exterior that’s in working condition.
@TheUpliftingGuy
@TheUpliftingGuy 4 года назад
I've a 1-Chip North American SNES and I get a buzzing sound when turning the SNES on and the sound volume is very low. Do you perhaps happen to know what can cause this type of issue? I've recapped the SNES, but the issue is still present. Any direction or help would be much appreciated!
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
TheUpliftingGuy did you try a different set of AV cables? Was this making a buzzing sound before you recapped? Double check your solder points make sure everything is soldered. Also, make sure you got the caps in the right orientation (negative and positive). Lastly try the RF out to see if you get sound from that.
@TheUpliftingGuy
@TheUpliftingGuy 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Hi, yes tried different AV cables and all ended up with the same result. Yes, the recap was done to get rid of the buzzing sound which didn't. Yes, it was making the buzzing sound before the recap and is doing it after the recap. I'm using a 3rd party AC adapter (power supply) but the same power supply is used on another SNES that's not a 1Chip and the buzzing sound isn't present. So I'm really lost here and not sure what causes this issue. Have double checked the soldering and the caps face the right direction when it comes to + and - Could it be that I've to replace the same sound chip you did in the video to fix the low volume with buzzing sound?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Try with the RF out first on channel 3 if you get sound it’s not the APU, and even if you don’t get sound I don’t think your problem is the APU chip.
@TheUpliftingGuy
@TheUpliftingGuy 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer Thanks for the heads up! Going to see if I can get hold of RF somewhere and try it on channel 3, thanks for the tip. I do get sound with Scart cable, but the volume is very low and when I turn the volume of my TV up I can hear the buzzing sound. I don't have the same issue on my other SNES which is not the 1chip.
@TheUpliftingGuy
@TheUpliftingGuy 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer So I finally got hold of the RF cable and tried it on channel 3 and the sound was working fine, but the TV screen was black & white with flickering. When I turned off and on the SNES and tried it again the sound disappeared. Now it happens every time with the RF cable and there's no sound. Is this indication of defective APU chip?
@MundoNintend0
@MundoNintend0 3 года назад
I already wrote to your email, check it to agree to the sending of my two consoles for you to repair.
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 3 года назад
I replied.
@jimthewhale6752
@jimthewhale6752 4 года назад
What do you use to clean the board with?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
99% alcohol
@carlnikolov
@carlnikolov 4 года назад
RIP super nintendo. Chip reflow? Ugh. Ebay.
@74bobby
@74bobby 4 года назад
We need to get you more Subscribers...
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Thanks for the kind words, I’m really trying to up my sub count.
@74bobby
@74bobby 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer interested in fixing a game cube with a bad lid switch?
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Robert Lewis that shouldn’t be too hard to fix.
@74bobby
@74bobby 4 года назад
@@PunkNDisorderlyGamer I'll send it you Brother the first chance I get. Don't worry about sending it back either...
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer
@PunkNDisorderlyGamer 4 года назад
Robert Lewis that’s quite generous. If you do, would you like me to make a video for you?
@tiagoaraujo1374
@tiagoaraujo1374 3 года назад
Trocar apu super nintendo
@augustohidalgo4120
@augustohidalgo4120 4 года назад
Liar liar
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