vhs-decode TBC test 

The VC500 (and other cards based around the same hardware) are fine with stable in-spec video input but yeah it can not cope well with direct video from videotapes or non-standard video output from e.g old game consoles at all (though this is an extreme example). If you don't want to go all in with tinkering vhs-decode which can be a bit daunting, you can pass the video via certain models of dvd-recorder like one of the ones demoed in this or the second stabilization video on my channel to stabilize it to get pretty decent results with the VC500 (though I've also had some issue with the audio levels being a bit too high on it, not sure if that's still an issue)

@@analogvideochannel4612 The VC500 is known - and confirmed by me as well - to change video levels mid-scene, so even with a stabilized video it is not the best solution.

@@analogvideochannel4612 " (though this is an extreme example). " i have some rather more extreme examples on my channel. those examples make me not believe in tbc at all. in this case it's well known fact diamond is bad, gv seems acceptable, while vhs-decode has best sharpness and stability, ie it's not doing oversharpening like others...oversharpening in the end destroys detail....grass looks better with vhs-decode

No, the VCR used here does not have a TBC

It's a little newer, so more like the models from ES15 and newer. Usually it's about the same as the ES10. I don't have a ES10 sample of this uploaded but this tape was one of the very rare cases where there was actually a very slight difference and the EH58 couldn't quite keep it completely stable at the very end while the ES10 did.

@@analogvideochannel4612 Ohh, really interesting. Have you read about that German guy who defend that is better to capture directly from HDMI port from these modern Panasonic dvds ? Seems that have HDMI and being digital, there are some advantages than goes to SVideo analog output again to enter in your capture card..... What do you think? Regards!

@@srmusicomusic4279 Yeah that's what I mostly use, you skip the conversion back to analog and it also gives the full 720 pixels of width without the left/right edges being blanked on most dvd-recorders I've tried on unlike the analog outputs.

@@analogvideochannel4612 wow ! Really interesting 😊. I want to try it . What would be the best Pal Panasonic (or other brand ) model to do it with a good balance with good line tbc and ? My main tapes are mostly in a good condition and I have also a good VCR (Philips DVHS VR 20D) (I Normally disable the internal TBC to use my DMR ES10 . with my Aja Kona LHi solve all drops) Thanks for your videos and knowledge!

@@srmusicomusic4279 Most PAL Panasonics with HDMI out are pretty similar afaik.

Yup, no TBC in this VCR. I have test captures from the same tape section from a HR-S8600 as well with the TBC on and some other devices.

@@analogvideochannel4612 If you can upload the test, it will be interesting to compare the quality of the USB cards fed with (line) corrected signal versus vhs-decode and DVD-R recorder with no (line)TBC active in VCR

Which part specifically? I forgot to link it in the description but if you google vhs-decode you can find info on what it is, it's a bit much for a comment. The others are just direct captures using virtualdub with the respective devices (with panasonc eh58 I recorded the HDMI output from it with a hdmi capture card going via a HDMI splitter to evade HDCP) Then used avisynth to line up all the captures and used a simple deinterlacer (yadif). For an actual capture rather than a comparison I would have used a more sofisticated deinterlacer like QTGMC though. If you just want a pretty decent result on a budget without a ton of extra work, sending the video via one of certain dvd-recorders which have good video stabilizing capabilities and recording thhe direct output with a capture card is an option that can provide very good results.

Pansonic NV-SD220 VCR connected to a domesday duplicator using standard oscilloscope probes

In this video I didn't really bother to fix the video levels as noted in the description so there may be clipping in several of the clips. The DMR-EH58 (and other panasonc dvd-recorders) do have a design flaw where they tend to clip very bright from vhs though which can't be fixed after capture (though can be worked around to a degree if you can lower the video signal level going into it.) With vhs-decode you capture the raw signal from the tape, not the decoded output so you can avoid any clipping if you want as you have full control over all of the decoding steps so you can adjust as needed. The person in that video may not have exported it to youtube that way though. The TBC-3000 has a proc amp so you can adjust the levels on it to avoid it clipping though the built in TBCs in some VCRs which you have to use since it doesn't stabilize horizontal jitter much on it's own (as seen in my followup video) do. The TBC/DNR unit in PAL JVC SVHS VCRs is one example, those do clip very bright parts, not sure if the same is true when it comes to the NTSC variant.

@@analogvideochannel4612 okay cool that’s interesting. I was wondering about that with decode. Yeah I have a Panasonic 1980p ag and a pinnacle 710 but I’m just about to start putting out videos. I’m learning hybrid and figuring out some of the software side better.