Victim Narcissist Lures Sons to Fiery Death with Model Train Set | Darren Sykes Case Analysis 

Uneducated empaths are often taken in by the charm of narcs. Sadly, people often only find out the very hard way.

Exactly. Or how many diamond rings they give you or how many new cars they give you... or whatever they do to win you over. You will be very very sorry.

​@@cherieodell9048 I'd say that an added danger of gifts from narcs is that, while they can be charming and truly generous at times, when their thoughts turn dark they review in their minds all the gifts they've given & they feel that you really owe them. I mean, in their minds just being around them is an honor, a gift in it's own way. And of course they minimize all the things you've done, and all the pain they've caused. They actually feel there's been an imbalance in the relationship -- that they've been cheated! And this is true whether you asked for the gifts or not. This feeling that you owe them also contributes to their post-breakup rage. And if you start turning down their gifts while still around them, they feel insulted and angry too. You really can't win with them... It's so much better to dodge them early before getting mixed up with them!

@@polarvortex3294 This is spot on. This is btw also the way narcissistic parents remind their children of ‘everything they have done for them’.

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Truth!

Yes, for real. No joke

Well diving into them makes him thousands of dollars, I'd watch cartel videos for free let alone for money😂😂

Dr Grande has probably been studying human pathology for most of his life so I'm sure he just sees these interesting stories as business/work tasks

i can, but I'm a nihilist who scores over halfway on the psychopath test, I've long gazed dispassionately upon this world and watched it without emotional ties,so I'm fine with far worse than this, I've seen the worst this world has to offer,and i applauded it's absurdity and laughed at the ludicrousnesss of society, i see all as ephemeral, vapid,and meaningless lest we give it meaning,i refuse to give value to what doesn't give me value. I'll do now as i have for decades, watch and listen, as the world bleeds,burns,and breaks,I'll observe, so dance,die,live, struggle, succeed, suffer...do as you will, i shall do the same in turn. I'll watch and remember it all,this brilliant flash of life, before if vanishes I'll accept it all, the love,the hate,the murder,the tragedy, everything life has...I'll take it for myself, not because i deserve it,not because others don't... just because i can and i decided i want to, i want to view everything and decide what i see as worth my time and effort, regardless of others opinions against me, i will live life as naught but a path unto death. why say this? why not? I'm bored,not like it matters, words are meaningless more often than not, am i even serious or just spinning a story? answer: it doesn't matter because eventually it can't so therefore why try to force it, holding on tighter just makes it hurt more when it's torn away, in such a fragile and delicate world, why hold on so desperately to what breaks so easily.

There was a woman named Debra Green who murdered 2 of her 3 children to spite her cheating husband Michael Farrar.

Many such cases. John Battaglia, famously. Joshua Powell. Recently, Chad Doerman

Last time it was a mother who did this and all the comments were blaming mental illness. Funny how that's not the case for men.

​@@summrflowers7253 bruh every day ? Lol

​@@jasonnikolicbut it is mosty mental illness in both and we need more research 😢

When I was much younger, there was this guy who kept inviting me to go sailing with him. He even came to my house. My dad stated that he thought he was a nice guy. But there was something "off" about him, something about his eyes. Riding in a car on a first date with a man is risky enough. Remember the old "dime in the shoe" trick so a young lady could call home if things went bad? But what woman in her right mind would allow herself to be trapped on a boat on the water with a man she barely knows?? I did not listen to my dad. I said No to the guy.

@@EXROBOWIDOW before I was married, using a dating app I would insist on meeting a man in a public place when he asked me out. One guy refused and kept pressuring me to let him pick me up in his car from my apartment! I refused and thankfully we never met. He must have had horrible intentions not being willing to meet in public. Your sailing story reminds me of Kim Wall, the Swedish journalist who got murdered in a submarine by her interviewee.

@@c.r.k.7162 Likewise, I was also reminded of Kim's tragic outcome, as well as an older incident from the late 80's. A farmer's wife named Jo Rodgers and her two daughters were vacationing in Florida when they accepted a stranger's invitation to go on a boat ride. This stranger was a seemingly kind man who had written directions that helped Jo find a hotel after she had become lost. Sadly, Jo and her daughters never returned from the boat ride alive. All 3 were murdered by the stranger who turned out to be a serial killer.

​@@c.r.k.7162 In a submarine?? Yikes!!! I hadn't heard about that one.

A system that Dr. Grande perpetuates, this is why Grande devices the public by not honestly reporting the names of the Judges and Social Workers.

The kind of judge who thinks that keeping the family together is the most important thing. In other words, an idiot.

That information was incorrect. I’m from England and I know this case. The visits were supervised. The supervisor took the children to his house. He pulled the children in and slammed the door in her face. She wasted time knocking on his door for five minutes and then calling her boss to ask him what to do. The gasoline had already been poured around the house. As soon as the kids were in the attic, he locked it and started the fire. By the time the supervisor saw the smoke and called the fire service, the house was already burning so hard, there was no chance. It wasn’t completely the supervisors fault. No one saw this coming. It’s only been in the past few years that the police have started looking into the psychological part of domestic violence. They are now understanding that an abuser will do anything to not only be in control until the very end but, will punish those who dare stand up to them. He did this to punish his wife. His children were just objects he owned and to use as a weapon. He took himself because he knew he would be punished in prison and as always, bullies can give but they can’t take.

Correct. Walked away from a boyfriend at 17 after the 1st time.

It's true.

Correct.

I got every type of abuse there is

Sorry for your loss. Controlling the narrative & seeking revenge towards the good parent are sadly more important to a narcissist to them being civil & nurturing to their offspring & ex. Narcissists have the primitive mind of a 5 year old.

@@carpathianken Actually, that's doing the 5 year olds a disservice! My 4 year old is more competent.

@@CherishDakota You're right. I've already been warned that my comments offend all the 5 year old children. If I don't change my ways I fear they'll start showing up on my doorstep, unsupervised by their parents with torches & pitchforks wanting to run me out of town. Thanks for the reminder.

​@@carpathiankenTy♡ Yes. I'm related to a malignant narcissist. He's a conniving weasel. I'm no psych professional, but this guy seems sociopathic. My ♡ breaks for the mom.

@@carpathianken 😨Uh-oh! The mean group of boys in The Lord of the Flies & all those kids in Children of the Corn are coming for ya ... Run! 😄😉

So true. The fact that he sent her flowers for three weeks when he was rejected is VERY telling of what kind of man he was

@@julien3238 Yes. I have a friend who fell for a man who courted her very aggressivly and she interpreted his behavior as very romantic. A few months into their courtship she realized he was very controlling and abusive when he didn't get his way. Fortunately she was able to get away from him, but it wasn't easy. Some women are just so flattered by all the attention they fail to see it as a red flag.

​@bluejay9890 it's classic Lovebombing, thankfully people are more aware of the tactic now. My first husband was a very dangerous narcissist who started off as Prince charming and became my worst nightmare. People don't expect an abuser to start off as overwhelmingly loving and attentive.

Problem is, there's almost nothing she could have done about it. He wouldn't take no for an answer - and back then, the convention was that you should get married, that men behaving like this was romance - and there was absolutely nobody she could have gone to make him stop. I can see how she eventually got worn down. Things aren't perfect now, but they're a lot better than they were.

Well, she could have still kept saying no, and for goodness sake not marry the man. Instead he broke her down, and even wanting to leave wouldn’t because thinking another baby will surly fix an abusive man right? Thousands of red flags but she married and had kids by him than keep rejecting. And sure, maybe he would’ve hurt her for continuing to reject, that’s always the gamble women take by saying no, but then there’d probably wouldn’t be two dead kids at the end of this story. I just wish more women were taught the abuse cycle, and what to watch for, and there’s resources and help out there to break out of it. Praying and hoping your man will change won’t stop him from using you as a punching bag, or killing your pets/kids/family/yourself.

Very rare, but sometimes women lie about their husband.

UK is the worst.

@@david-dj8or Not that rare

​@@david-dj8orit's not that hard to tell who is genuine and who is full of shit with just a modicum of social awareness and asking a few follow-up questions. They could atleast try to distinguish the difference instead of just ignoring it all.

This happens all the time with social workers who claim heavy case loads, etc. What is effective though is having a tough male relative or friend in the picture because these wife/child beaters are usually afraid of other men and will back off. Seriously. 🚫

They go by the right of children to have contact with both parents ignoring the must important and fundamental right : A LIVE FREE OF VUOLENCE

​@@MegaLivingIt Your point about having a tough male relative or friend around is so true. A friend of mine was stalked by this creepy guy when she was younger. Authorities were utterly useless in helping her. The creep was a nineteen year old & the police viewed him as harmless, even though she was really scared of him. They just viewed him as a love struck kid with some mental health issues & basically did nothing. One night, creep decided to break into her home. Her Dad, who was ex military, heard the break in. He found the kid & shoved a gun in his mouth & told him in no uncertain terms that if he ever saw him again, he'd blow his brains out. Well wouldn't you know it, the stalking stopped! They never heard from him again! Sometimes a nice clear message is all someone needs to stop their behaviour. Wife/child beaters, stalkers, creeps.....these types prey on those weaker than themselves. The minute they're faced with someone bigger/stronger they crumple.

Narcissistic women can be the same. My (now ex) partner openly said she was jealous of the positive interaction I had with her youngest child. At one point she said she hated the sound of me reading to her 4 year old!

They should NEVER say someone is not dangerous! This is a value judgement too far. Everyone if pushed too far ( at least in their mind!) can be. Social work is such a delicate balance between protecting the children and helping the parents.

That social worker should be brought up on charges. She knew he had a bad temper and was violent with his sons, never should have been allowed with the boys alone should have been with another adult!

They ask if u are a danger to yourself and others, if u say no, they can only take your word for it. They can not assume either way they just hope u tell them the truth.

​@@awomanmotherw2kids393was he charged with violence towards his sons?.

Social workers need to study the many personality disorders. In fact if a parent wants custody or partial custody they should take a test for these disorders.

Excellent advice!! That is wisdom!!

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Yep, big red flag

Yes. If he's sensitive and vengeful, stay away. This person is dangerous

I have often wondered that myself. I can't even imagine the strength it must take to continue existing after something that is this irreparably devastating.

Narcissistic people can't love. They hate themselves so much. They can only blame everyone else for their problems and a lot of them have no feelings at all

That is so sad. Poor woman.

Thanks, now I feel worse.

Trauma haunts us. My teenage uncle had a seizure in the bath & drowned. The paramedics raced there to try to save him but he died. Now, everytime my grandmother hears the sound of emergency vehicle sirens it gives her P.T.S.D flashbacks.

I lost my brother to gun violence at the end of 2018 I couldn’t think about guns without crying, and same with his name.

I can't imagine her Agony. 🕊🕊🕊🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔

Be careful.

Well yeah, but the destruction of that model train is unforgivable. (just a joke)

I can understand why, but it's not really fair to blame her. Mr. Sykes was a calculating guy; I doubt he went into her office screaming about death and destruction. Undoubtedly the social worker feels terrible about the whole ordeal.

@@mennoknight78 It escalated it and they did nothing

@@mennoknight78I hope they do, they totally failed these boys, as a social worker, you must have the victims best interests in mind, the boys told them they were scared of their father, if that is not a red flag to them, the social worker needs to find a new career.

Me as well. So sad. Totally avoidable. But the system in place is filled with incompetence.

@@passwordsuggestion5336 Very true and its hard to catch or predict these horrible people...

Social workers aren't qualified to evaluate whether or not someone is a danger to others.

@@barneyronnie Depends on person or interaction. Psychologists don't do much better. Any person who feels someone is a danger should investigate/report/delve into it more esp if they possess weapons or are going thru situations.

And the void stares back at him

What cactus power is this?

He does look tired

The Grande bot is powered down between video shoots

He’s probably got insomnia from all these crazy cases

I agree except your characterization that ‘smart women’ would turn away a narcissist. A person can be smart but trusting.

Some predators are very hard to see, not all narcissists will give you expensive gifts they will not act like you think they will a lot of people don't think that they'll be caught in a relationship but a lot do and it's sad

Appropriately so.

It always gets to me when people don't use proper punctuation.

I mean, tires first, kids last.

He was a narc as well? Crazy!

What does this mean?

@@iamamaniaint A narcissist will often slash your tires and your friends tires if you try to leave them.

@@meeperbirdI thought you meant fed 😂

When you're living for free under Mom's roof, she naturally expects to have a bit of input into the situation.

There are often low income lawyers or a program for legal help for victims of domestic violence. Check in with your state government for resources. The other thing is, you can file without a lawyer as well. It's not easy and depends on how much of a fight they put up but it's not impossible.

Your situation sounds like mine

What's another word for 'thesaurus'?

A lot of marriage counselors actually try to dissuade the couple during premarital counseling. Of course, this is primarily to test their commitment, and may not shatter the "love is blind" thing. At my church, the pastors counsel with the objective of lowering expectations down to reality. And they advise everyone to "marry well." But how many people listen to advice?

They are like nurses they're just there for the pay check

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@@hi-et1oq some nurses are actually good, caring, and go the extra mile for you, at least in the US where healthcare privatized. I had the best nurses when I was in labour. But yes, a lot of nurses are mediocre, particularly the ones brought over from the Philippines (we have nursing shortage here so we bring nurses in from there). The diff between the Filipino nurses and the American ones during my time in hospital was like night and day

Gonna??

Dunno which case you’re referring to but they were prob referring to postpartum depression/ psychosis when saying the woman had mental illness… men can’t get that. Plus the father has a violent history. That’s who he is. It wasn’t a sudden out of the blue episode with seemingly no motive. He had said and done a lot of things over several years / more than a decade to make the mom believe he’s dangerous. He has no history of mental illness. He was feuding with the mother over custody. He planned it in advance. It is clear why he did what he did.

@@stancexpunks Funny how you wrote all of that and still didn't refute his point. It's always the same pattern: female murderer: "Clearly she was mentally ill from whatever disorder they've added this week." male murderer: "This man was the devil and a disgusting individual."

What are you saying... Everyone's blaming mental illness here too.. NPD is a personality disorder and narcissistic traits are linked to psychological issues. Stop your "women have it better" campaign. You're acting like a victim narcissist yourself.

So very true