For anyone interested, these three "tracks" were all cut the same day by Ray Noble's orchestra at the HMV studios in Hayes, just west of London. There were several others of these "puzzle" records made around this time. The vocalist heard is the band's pianist, Harry Jacobson. As others have said, the lathe operator must have been a true artist!
There's something mesmerizing and truly beautiful about watching a record turn at that speed, as that lovely music comes streaming thru from a time so far away…
I love that you directly connected the output of your system to your camera audio. most folks just use the damn camera mic and it really detracts from the enjoyment of the music, hearing their speakers and crappy sounding room through the lousy camera mic. nice work. 'love the old Gerrard, too!
When people known worn records only, filtered from people who thinks, frequencies above 5 kHz were invented in 1947... it's amazing, how got old shellacs can sound.
This is amazing! I didn't think they started making 'multi-grooved' records until the 1970s (Monty Python's "Matching Tie and Handkercheif" being the most famous example). But here it is all the way back from 1931!!! Not just two grooves on a record but THREE!!! Awesome. I love it.
CHAMBHR I have that one and this one to. The horse race one is fun, guy starts out saying place your bets and their off You pick a number and if you guess the correct number, your the winner
I loved this record as a kid. Some how like most 78's it got broken. Great to hear it again. Thanks to people like you and you tube, you can find all your old memories
The first song, "The King's Horses", was also played as a piano solo by Marvin Hatley under the opening titles of Laurel & Hardy's "The Music Box" (1932).
OMG! I HAVE THIS RECORD!!! It`s hard to try to record for someone because You usually find the same track, So I used a gold paint pin and marked each songs groove starting point. By the way the gold paint pin can be rubbed off if wanted with out doing damage to the record.
Can you upload each individual song on each side of this record if you still have it? I know it's been 11 years since you posted this comment but I needed to ask
In the 1970'a there was a Monty Python comedy LP , Matching Tie & Handkerchief which side 2 had 2 grooves with 10 or 12 minutes of play on each groove.
I have a RHINO 33rp 12" record that plays a different Henny Youngman routine, each playing. . Probably segments of the same stage performance. The flip side has a complete 33rp 12" recording.Henny youngman app. only played the violin during his simulated barbecue commercials .The one on a desert island was absurd !
I had no idea this recording technique even existed and I’ve never heard of such records. If I’d encountered this particular record back when I was collecting 78s, 40 or 50 years ago, I would’ve mystified.
@beatlesfan464 Because it doesn't increase recording time. There's still only about 3 and a half minutes of time on each side - this just breaks it up into thirds AND it's incredibly difficult to land on the song you want.
I wonder if the lathe operator used three separate heads at the same time or rotated the master 120° for each groove. This must have been a very difficult master to cut!
I think, the quality of a record was very good, so they could do the record from a recording. I guess, they used a 12" with 90 seconds only for each song and played the three one after another to the disc.
I have 2 of these puzzle records uploaded, one is also by Ray Noble and Al Bowlly the other is amazingly an acoustically recorded commemorative for the Coronation of King George V and Queen Mary from 1911. I find them fascinating.
This technique was for many years the key to talking dolls and toy telephones that could play different messages at random. Making the master must indeed have been a bit of a job, But They Did It, didn't they?
This was the only type of multi groove records for consumers, on one hand a surprise record or possibly a horse race with different endings.... Other multi groove records were mend for radio use, playing short recordings and each one has a loop as stop point, to avoid, that the next section will be played. I remember, that a person claimed, a record with 2 songs on each side would need to put the stylus again on the record to listen the 2nd song, but that's not true, was similar to later EPs with 4 songs on a disc.
This is a clever novelty but after fooling around with it a few times, it would’ve just been aggravating. The whole point of playing records is being able to hear the exact same familiar song every time you want.
Did a search of my own, and found that Discogs has documented the UK release, on His Master's Voice. and apparently even that version is not east to find either!! Still very interesting, though!
Multiple start grooves that never overlap all the way to the end. Hear of the question, how many grooves are on a record? 2 one groove per side. That is not true with this record.
RCA should've used its "button" logo where the EMI-owned His Master's Voice trademark appears because "The Gramophone Co., as it still was in England before merging with Columbia Graphophone Ltd., should've cancelled Victor's licence to use the trademark once Victor was bought by RCA in 1929.
Never, because Victor is a permanent part of the logo. The original painting had Nipper with a cylinder player, and it was bought from artist Francis Barraud on the condition he change the player to a Victrola disc machine. Also, HMV continued releasing RCA Victor USA & Canadian recordings internationally. Regardless of language or country of release, anyone in the world would recognize Nipper looking into the Victrola.
About 1912 HMV made a 12 inch multitrack record like this - called "The Conunumdrum - What Will I Play Next?". It was acoustically recorded and also issued in the U.S. by Victor. You can down load it from the internet, But the video was made by Bruce The Victrola Man who has NO musical taste and insists on playing finely recorded records on his old acoustical phonographs. The sound quality on all of his videos is absolute SHIT, and he.s been doing this for years. Thanks for nuthin', Bruce!!
