Victoria's Secret Snatched Fenty's CEO??! l Too Much Mouth 

It's because Savage doesn't seem to design or innovate the they do with Fenty. The clothing looks and feels cheap. As if she just adds her logos to mass produced garments. It's kinda sad because her being the fashion queen that she is, you would think she would have followed a more traditional format for production. But that would cost more money and time. Fast fashion is easier.

@thingsilove18 I didn't want to say it... but as a child of the lingerie world (my mother owned a lingerie boutique in my younger years), I've never felt inclined to buy her products. It gave cheap mass-produced Chinese warehouse lingerie for the street vendors. Very much fast fashion. But that's why all they need is her face to sell. Her fans do the work tbh.

Eh, I’m not sure just how much her face alone can carry it cause they wouldn’t have had to rebrand so quickly after the initial launch and now she’s still visibly present in the marketing but she stepped down and the designs/ppls interests in them has gone down again but their visibility hasn’t. All of her brands have great marketing/pr teams that help them a lot. It’s the quality of the products ppl be questioning 🥴🥴

@@Shanygne it struggles WITH her face for sure because the brand itself has nothing worth purchasing over Victoria's Secret or Aerie. But it would quickly fade into non-existence without her face. Most people purchase because they like her... not the products.

@@thingsilove18really, I did not know this. And felt bad that I’d not ever made a purchase from Savage. Being that it is black owned.

Aww 🥹🥹 thank you. I just be chatting and hope it makes sense to y’all lol

I agree!

@@jandnoc lol 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

Thank yewwwww!

And cancelling the subscription is beyond a pain in the ass

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Lol nah deadass it’s time to prepare for winter

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Agree vs is better quality 🥴

It’s true lol ppl just don’t like admitting it

@@Shanygne exactly

Eh it’s not that simple. If that was all it took savage wouldn’t have had to rebrand shortly after launching, Fenty the luxury clothing brand wouldn’t have had to shut down and Fenty hair wouldn’t have gotten so much backlash before it even launched. A celebrity being the face and having a mega fanbase like Rihanna Beyoncé etc. isnt enough to maintain a brand. Especially brands that aren’t related to where most of those fans come from.

I feel like a lot is different now 🥴

@@Shanygne very true! The fantasy and glamour is removed especially with the rise of social media. The mystery is gone.

I'm 33 and get their ads a lot.

Beauty standards might have a grip, but as younger consumers have more buying power and drive trends the stores that have a more body positive outlook are doing well. That’s aerie’s whole outlook and they’re in a more healthy and financially relevant spot than VS Besides body positivity isn’t just catered towards the extremes. It’s for anyone that is outside the fashion industry’s ideal of skinny, white, and conventionally attractive. In this economy people are not jumping to give money to overpriced brands whose whole market strategy “this is what we see as pretty deal with it” as evidenced by Victoria secret’s frequent sales

@LP-ct9nk aerie is my store. I think they did diversity well and first, no shade to fenty. I do believe the person that started it was also a CEO of Victoria's Secret or in a similar role. They just knew the way to differentiate is to fully diversify. That being said, Victoria's Secret brand does not need to diversify beyond ethnic groups. They're a "runway" brand that is commercial. They need to keep their models as the fantasy. The most beautiful of the beauty standards from every ethnic group. Younger women defying beauty standards does not erase or remove beauty standards. They can be diverse on the website (show the style on every size) or in a commercial. But their brand should be the fantasy because they have otherwise lost what made them different. Falling into the mold doesn't make them stand out. And people understand fantasies. They can see themselves in a beautiful girl of their ethnic group. Most people just want to see their people represented. Unfortunately, they're diversifying is like a Miss Universe but featuring the average (short/plussized/unattractive) girl. People say they want to see that. They don't. Not really.

Interesting you mentioned beauty standards don't change but suggest to have VS show models of different skin tones but not sizes. Skin tones, Eurocentric features were also part of the beauty standard. But that slowly changed thanks to the Black is Beautiful movement for example. Beauty standards are set by people and people change so beauty standards change as well. I'm with Shangyne, VS should've kept the models but also the sexy Angel aesthetic. Savage worked because of that. Now I never bought their items so can't speak on quality but from what I remember their marketing was on point.

@nancykerrigan the standard of beauty did not change. Yall are confusing your isms with beauty standards. Racism ≠ beauty standards. There have always been a universal beauty standard based on ideals. Good teeth, healthy hair, symmetric face, proportioned body, smooth or clear skin etc etc. Being thick and being obese are too vastly different standards that some women like to blend up. But majority don't if we're being honest. Having someone from your ethnic group who meets the universal beauty standard represent you is very different from aspiring to make obesity, being short, being unattractive, having severe acne - a beauty standard.

I like their period panties and they’ve got some loungewear that’s nice

@@Shanygne oh well thk u for that..i didnt know they sold period panties