Victorian vs Edwardian | which is which?

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Hello everyone and welcome to a new video!
I've been meaning to do this for a little while. We had to do some decade based research for one of my modules at university and I thought it was cool to use to it for a video! Often on the internet, it seems Victorian and Edwardian are used almost interchangeably, but they are two different periods with different fashions. It was a lot of fun to find all of these images so I hope you enjoy the video!
I was thinking about doing one with questions regarding these periods - I asked on my Instagram if anyone had any questions and some of those I think could be a video by themselves. I've also collected all of the images I could accurately reference!
1. ‘Improvement in hoop-skirts’ patent, by Henry Cook, 1861 patents.google.com/patent/US3...
1830s fashion:
2. Walking ensemble ca. 1835, www.metmuseum.org/art/collect....
3. Morning dress ca. 1837, www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
1840s fashion:
4. February 1843, Godey's Lady's Book.
5. Day dress, 1840s, Fashion Museum Bath. / 785521570785681408
6. Jenny Lind by Eduard Magnus, 1862, based on an original from 1846, www.npg.org.uk/collections/se...
7. Dress, 1840s, MET. www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
8. Afternoon dress, 1834, MET. www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
1850s fashion:
9. Winterhalter Franz Xavier The Empress Eugenie Surrounded by her Ladies in Waiting, 1855. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi.... Fashion plate, 1857, Journal des Modes
11. ‘Improvement in hoop-skirts’ patent, by Henry Cook, 1861 patents.google.com/patent/US3...
12. Mourning dress, ca. 1850-1855, MET. www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
13. Silk gauze, c.1855-1860, at the FIDM. blog.fidmmuseum.org/museum/20...
1860s fashion:
14. “Fabrique de crinolines. - La pose des cerceaux, d'après un croquis de M. Bach”, L’Univers illustré, 1865
15. Empress Elisabeth of Austria in Courtly Gala Dress with Diamond Stars by Franz Xaver Winterhalter, 1865
16. Sarah Parker Remond, ca. 1865. Peabody Essex Museum. www.nps.gov/articles/the-inte...
1870s fashion:
17. ’Manuela de Errazu’, by Raimundo de Madrazo y Garreta, c.1870-1. Museo del Prado. www.museodelprado.es/en/the-c...
18. ’Too Early’ by James Tissot, 1873, Guildhall Art Gallery, artuk.org/discover/artworks/t...
19. Wedding dress, 1874. Victoria and Albert Museum.
20. Women 1875-1876, Plate 038, Journal des Demoiselles, libmma.contentdm.oclc.org/dig...
21. Dress, Late 1870s. John Bright Museum Collection. www.thejohnbrightcollection.c...
1880s fashion:
22. The Miriam and Ira D. Wallach Division of Art, Prints and Photographs: Picture Collection, The New York Public Library. "Indoor Costume." The New York Public Library Digital Collections. 1883. digitalcollections.nypl.org/i...
23. Dress, brown and tan silk taffeta with cuirass bodice and bustle, c. 1883, University of New Hampshire Library. scholars.unh.edu/bowen_collec...
24. 1888-1890, Plate 023, La Mode Illustrée, MET. libmma.contentdm.oclc.org/dig...
25. ’Woman with a fan made of feathers’, c. 1886, State Library and Archives of Florida. www.floridamemory.com/items/s...
26. Afternoon dress, c.1888, House of Worth, MET. www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
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@sharonwerner2419 3 года назад

"consult a native English Speaker" Your English is perfect and spoken beautifully.

@katherinemorelle7115 3 года назад

I’ll often say “late Victorian and Edwardian”, because that’s where my personal style lies. From 1890-1910. But I do try to differentiate between the two.

@carag2567 Год назад

I do the same thing for the same reason.

@deespaeth8180 Год назад

That's my preferred era.

@ajackson3298 Год назад

Thank you for including pictures of black women. Im black and i love period pieces. I understand the history of those times but naturally i cant help but to imagine what i wouldve worn. So thanks for educating me and inspiring me.

@gloriac.266 3 года назад

"health *aggressive quotation marks INTENSIFIES* corset" LOLL And YES please make a video on the aesthetic/artistic dress movement!

@New_Wave_Nancy 3 года назад

Agreed, I would also love to see a video on the aesthetic/artistic dress movement.

@samijoallen 3 года назад

It’s nice seeing someone do a breakdown of the differences

@katerrinah5442 3 года назад

Hell yes to all of the dress history videos, they make my nerdy heart very happy. Also 10/10 for your English, I wouldn't have realised you weren't a native English speaker were it not for this video!

@e.urbach7780 3 года назад

"The Age of Innocence" with Winona Ryder, Michelle Pfieffer, and Daniel Day-Lewis, and "Tess of the d'Urbervilles" with Gemma Arterton and Eddie Redmayne, are set in the 1880s and the costuming is superb.

@leahraji3244 3 года назад

I'm glad you found so many photos of dark-skinned women. I've rarely seen any at all.

@Themsbeatlesrock 3 года назад

A good edwardian example is the show self made - madam cj walker on netflix. I love looking at their clothes and houses

@sekaihatsu 3 года назад

1890's--Murdoch Mysteries! Thank you for a more comprehensive guide of these decades.

@CottageTales 3 года назад

Loved this! I always get the impression Edwardian often gets conflated with Victorian... Personally I prefer Edwardian - spiced up with some details from the late Victorian age (I loved the costumes from Crimson Peak, though - not 100% historically accurate, I know).

@Feelicitasy 3 года назад

ohh, reform dress would be so interesting!!

@strawycape9693 3 года назад

This is a great breakdown, the Victorian era covers so much change I know I get confused when jumping from one post/video to another that both claim to be Victorian but show dramatically different silhouettes

@kellymckenzie1935 3 года назад

This was genuinely one of the most helpful historical costuming videos I've ever watched. Thank you for laying out the decades so clearly! Sometimes I feel really dumb for not immediately knowing things, and this was clear and lovely and just... awesome!

@kaytiej8311 3 года назад

1850's film - Legend of Zorro.

@craftyroo9930 3 года назад

hi! i think The Piano was set in the 1850s! there's a pretty scene where holly hunter and anna paquin camp inside a crinoline.

@Loki-and-Thor 3 года назад

I found this article www2.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/interviews/piano-jane-campion-jan-chapman which says it was 1850s, good shout!

@gigglepantsiii9350 3 года назад

I really appreciate how you covered the differences between the decades of the Victorian period and many of the other non-date terms like natural form era. Having them laid out in context and compared to each other made it much easier to see how one flowed into the next!

@eleonore59830 3 года назад

The Aeronauts (2019) is set in the 1860s I believe and the costuming is quite nice :D

@yinnykun 3 года назад

I love the white button down with a colored blouse aesthetic that costumers do for educational videos. You look gorgeous in yellow Kat! Wait am I first?

@lornadavis476 3 года назад

Yes! More videos deep diving into the more obscure types of dresses would be very welcome.

@lindabloom6666 3 года назад

I would love a video about the aesthetic dresses. I just got a pattern, and some of them didn't have waistlines, which I love!

@Andrew_in_the_garden 3 года назад

6:58 _Somehow_ getting the feeling you really enjoy this period jgdjgjdgd

@pippaseaspirit4415 Год назад

I think my favourite outline is that of the late 1890s. It’s just so beautiful!

@Ella-iv1fk 3 года назад

Aesthetically I like 1890s and 1900s styles more then previous decades but if I were to take up history bounding I'd have to shorten skirts and lower necklines because I hate wearing tights clothes round my neck. I was looking for the waistcoat pattern Costuming drama used on Black Snail Patterns website and got a bit confused that they only have an Edwardian section, which includes a lot of Victorian era patterns, rather than calling it Victorian, a more commonly known period. And I agree, a video focussing on the aesthetic/artistic dress movement would be great!

@agimagi2158 3 года назад

Any video about the 1890s will always be appreciated!

@Fyreflyy1 3 года назад

Thank you for posting this. I was just looking up stuff trying to figure this out when your video notification popped up.

@warsandrij 3 года назад

The aggressive finger quotes are great! My favourite picture/ painting was #15 so stunning!

@NancouC 3 года назад

Ooohh please make a video on the 1890’s fashion i love that era too 😍

@graceanne596 3 года назад

Dr. Thorne on Prime Video is set mid 1850s and is a really great mini series.

@abandonedpast6410 3 года назад

Great video!! Love the healthy corset with quotes gesture!!

@BeverleyButterfly 3 года назад

I loved this thank you for explaining it all so well plus those pictures are gorgeous xx

@LatelyFashionable 3 года назад

Love the decade-by-decade breakdown!

@MuseAndDionysus 3 года назад

YESSS! Call out all the people for generalizing a huge period of time and saying that it's all the same!

@MsDawn0113 3 года назад

Thank you for the informative video. I would love to see a video covering the 1890s in more detail. This is by far my favorite decade.

@marievenezia4929 3 года назад

Thanks so much for that description. Cleared up alot!!!

@bunhelsingslegacy3549 3 года назад

I love how you leave what others would cut, way more fun to watch :) Also I keep waiting for someone to mention Murdoch Mysteries, but it's Canadian so nobody's ever heard of it... My uneducated eye says the costuming is often beautiful even if they bash corsets now and then (which, you know, I bash bras all the time, so....) although I'm pretty sure that I once spotted where someone was hiding a zipper...

@saulemaroussault6343 Год назад

The Happy Stimming is so great to see 🥰 Great video, thank you !

@sherryvanrijn5453 3 года назад

Absolutely delightful, thank you!!

@canucknancy4257 3 года назад

That was a wonderful overview of the two eras. Thanks so much for your insight. Take care.

@LoveEntwined 3 года назад

Dead Still is set in the 1880s, though I don't know how accurate it is. I like how Nancy's dress reuses the same parts with her accessories changing (at least at the beginning) instead of having her have a different outfit every episode. Ripper Street is set in 1889 at the beginning, but again, I don't know how accurate it is.

@tiffytattoo2450 3 года назад

That's such a helpful video :) thank you so much!

@coolthinghere6853 3 года назад

i would love a video on the fringe dress movements! i have been having SUCH a hard time finding information on each of them beyond brief overviews of a single outfit for each online (beyond aesthetic dress paintings and some extant garments for artistic dress from american duchess) and not much for patterns :c google keeps getting them muddled in with modern fashion brand names ect

@samanthagomme2272 2 года назад

Was the early part of the Anne Of Green Gables series set in the 1880’s??? I could be wrong, but I think when it begins, the women are dressed like that? Quite formidable but then softening quite quickly as the story progresses…perhaps the late 1880’s??? 🤷‍♀️😊

@LadyoftheDreamless14 3 года назад

Yes tell me more about these fashion moments. I MUST KNOW! EDIT: So in my browsing of the internet Ive found that a majority of what people think of as Victorian is actually Edwardian. Victorian - like boho, hippie, g*psy, retro and vintage - I think, is a buzzword now. Its not so much about actually defining and identifying things that span the actual Victorian period, but its about appearing as such. Much of what I used to think of as Victorian is actually Edwardian because of inaccurate labeling.

@mastersnet18 3 года назад

North & South (2004) was a TV show that took place in the 1850’s.

@deniseyoung3738 3 года назад

Thanks! I have that book, it is still in it's wrapper. I'll have to give it a look!

@mariecole5026 3 года назад

I enjoyed this video greatly and would definitely be interested in a video about the different dress movements

@ingridaguero6460 Год назад

I’m pretty sure The Phantom of the Opera takes place in the 1880s. Or at least the play does anyways. Though I did read somewhere that they purposely put Christine in “outdated” clothing in some scenes

@javencummins1426 3 года назад

I really enjoyed this video. It would be cool if you could talk about the costumes in the Netflix film Jingle Jangle.

@sarahlowes6213 3 года назад

Please DO make a video on the aesthetic dress!

@heidihaeni7783 2 года назад

Some versions of "Great Expectations" show Estella in tiered skirt dresses.

@wilhelminavanessen8496 3 года назад

1850’s movie “Sissi” with Romy Schneider

@mjdc2533 3 года назад

Very interesting info about the publication date of the book.

@janetlynn3397 3 года назад

Love this information Thank you so much

@ChantelStays 2 года назад

Can you do the same. Comparison with the Georgian period !? What would. Have been the Canadian/American equivalents? .and yes interested in a second video for 1890s that makes you so excited 🌞 I always follow European time periods/era. Not sure if it because I am born Canadian.. my European ancestry or popular media. So romantic era and Regency era was in essence apart of the later Georgian era ? You did a fantastic job by the way !!! I wish I could dress like this every day...without being made fun of lol I appreciate your resources listed in description ... Would you ever be able to lost some of the movies/tv shows you referred ?

@Domi.1978 Год назад

Amo la era antigua, sobretodo esta gracias beatiffull!

@edgarescamilla2679 3 года назад

Bram Stoker's Dracula film in 1992, is set in the late 1880's. If not, 1885 or 1886 to be exact! Before, other films have done more in the 1890's setting. Of you wonder more into Opera Theatre to any Theatre, as you may know, La Traviatta is done in the late 1850's to 1860's frequently, and Madame Butterfly in the early 1990's because that's when Puccini compose it. These are a few examples. Tosca is quite awesome, because it's either done in the mid Recency era or the late 1870's. Going to play productions, The Matchmaker or a.k.a. Hello Dolly is actually set in the mid to late 1880's. So, here are some histrionic style esthetics.

@christinamendez2469 3 года назад

crimson peak took place in New York, 1887

@Bahbahlatje 2 года назад

My favorite era was the bustle era. I also like that era in terms of architecture, too. This is a great overview of the decades. Thank you for checking on the pronunciation of "epitome." I hate when people butcher words; it is just grinding. I'd rather have someone do what you did, check the pronunciation and get back on.

@WillNelson73 Год назад

Many Americans use the term "Victorian" as a catch all for clothing over 100 years old, but often they really are referring to Edwardian

@HarpsiFizz 3 года назад

Did not know at all that English was not your first language. Had to pause the video to search the comments, hoping to find out what your first language is, because I'm still convinced that English is your first language.

@katecapek3116 3 года назад

Yes, please do a video on Reform Dress, please.

@princessatarockconcert 3 года назад

My friend and I were just talking about how many people confuse them today!!

@user-bg5im5kl7b Год назад

The 1890s, 1900s, and 1910s are most definitely my favorite decades of western fashion most of my dresses are inspired by those decades

@michellecornum5856 3 года назад

Ah, yes, the recurring problem of, I know this word, I can use this word, I can't speak this word cuz I have never heard this word. Love your work. This made me think of two other things, (not actually a bad thing) so I will have to watch it again after I get out of the wormhole and the rabbit hole. STAY WELL!

@carolinacorbacho2858 3 года назад

I think the BBC series North and South was set on the 1850s (I know the book was published around that time so I'm guessing). I love the costume on that show, but don't know how historically accurate it is! This inspired me to do some research!! =)

@pipers_river 2 года назад

I love the 2004 BBC North & South!! In the show (and in the book) the characters visit the Great Exhibition of 1851 in London - a World Fair also known as "The Crystal Palace Exhibition". So the time period for the story is roughly 1849-1852, as there are a couple of flashbacks. The costumes from the show are really very historically appropriate for these years. I love the costumes in this show! Especially Margaret's outfits. But I am very partial to Fanny's chequered dress (with its many petticoats).

@lynnejones257 3 года назад

Brilliant video. Informative and entertaining. ❤️ Lynne

@AliciaB. 3 года назад

I'd really, really like a video on the dress reform

@johannageisel5390 3 года назад

I am very interested in the aesthetic/artistic dress video!

@reenabearkitty 4 месяца назад

I ran into this video because I honestly cannot tell the difference between Victorian and Edwardian fashion. I am a big Titanic nerd and I know the ladies of the time wore Edwardian outfits. I am considering getting an Edwardian outfit but honestly there's a dearth of period clothing online that is affordable 😅😅 It's not that important in the grand scheme of things considering that I'd rather be comfortable for work and play, but I was just curious. thanks for this informative video :D

@artandcrafttherapy 2 года назад

Thank you for this info and African ladies in Edwardian dress

@pipers_river 2 года назад

Here's some classic Australian movies set in the Victorian and Edwardian eras. I haven't seen them in a very long time so I can't promise that the scripts have aged well. Some of the costumes from these movies are great though. 1880s - The Man From Snowy River (1982) -> based on the 1890 poem Seven Little Australians (1973) -> based on the 1894 novel 1890s - My Brilliant Career (1979) -> based on the 1901 novel The Getting of Wisdom (1977) -> based on the 1910 novel

@az_twist6267 3 года назад

Really enjoyed this information. I was wondering, since I recently purchased the "Victorian " techniques book, what you thought of it. Have you found it useful?

@CatsCostumery 3 года назад

Yep, I quite like it, it's a good reference book!

@New_Wave_Nancy 3 года назад

As I commented on Instagram, I prefer Edwardian, but like pretty much anything from 1870s onwards. I love your accent - what region(s) shaped your accent?

@strawycape9693 3 года назад

*aggressive quotation fingers*

@maryd1495 Год назад

1850’s series might be North and South with Richard Armitage.

@bradhott19 3 года назад

Thank you so much. I had such a hard time figuring out when Anne of Green gables was set. Abc now I know it’s 1890s to 1910-ish.

@LusiaEyre 3 года назад

I always find it confusing in the adaptations because they seem to push the action forward for some reason... Can't remember if any dates were mentioned in the books until the last one. Anne's youngest child was 15 in 1914 when all her 5 brothers and sisters were older and able o join the war efforts. And I think Anne was 24 when she and Gilbert got married. We can deduce Anne was around 50 yrs old during WW1, by that reasoning the first book takes place in the late 70s, early 80s.

@katiedunmore2184 2 года назад

Yes they put the movies and shows forward in time.because they like the look and era better. I think characters like Anne shirely and Jo march can work in any era though.

@gkseeton 3 года назад

Did you do an 1890’s focused video? And another for the early and 1900?

@aidenadamson7270 3 года назад

Technically Colette wasn’t just the 1890s it is ranged from the 1890s to 1900s because it is about the author of the brilliant Claudine books

@princekrazie 3 года назад

“Hello Obi-Wan!” “Hello there General Grievous”

@mentatphilosopher 3 года назад

1880s Portrait of a Lady perhaps? Seems you need more Henry James and Edith Wharton watching and a full course of Merchant-Ivory films.

@maansisomnath4562 3 года назад

You can also set sweeney tod demon barber of fleet street in the late 1860's

@KittyBeccrs 3 года назад

Ahhh! Photo 15 is of Sisi! I knew I recognized her!

@ncalgal4699 3 года назад

Thank You!

@fabioferreiragomes 3 года назад

.......ESPETACULAR.....MAGNÍFICA......INCRÍVEL........

@karenkettering1725 10 месяцев назад

I'm not sure how accurate the costumes are, but "North and South" is about the lead up to the civil war.

@tK-be6ns 2 года назад

I like using non English style descriptors where possible. The ' Victorian Era' cover the Gilded Age, Civil War Era etc in the US and Ls Belle Epoque in France.

@VictorianMaid99 Год назад

I need to settle on one or the other and get good at the style.

@IlonaZilinskaite 3 года назад

Oh I see DevereYarns advent calendar :) nice, I have mine ❤️

@gkseeton 3 года назад

I’m fascinated by the 1890’s, and up through 1905 or 06.

@violetsidhe 3 года назад

I think the tv show miss scarlet and the duke is set in the 1880’s

@violetsidhe 3 года назад

I found another tv show in acorn tv called Dead Still. It is set in 1880’s Ireland.

@extrastout1741 8 месяцев назад

the video we all needed🤍

@maboelnreads 3 года назад

Could you tell me where you got the image #38 from? It doesn’t appear in your list. TYI

@thatphonographguy5062 3 года назад

Can you do a part 2 with men?

@Yabadabadoo16 2 года назад

Your English accent seem's like a British/Irish/Scottish mix however it is very elegant

@kimkimvida2858 2 года назад

So bridgerton is what era please??

@antonioandolini6466 10 месяцев назад

The flick, From Hell takes place in the 1880s. Im not sure about Martin Scorcese's Age of Innocence,....maybe the 1880s as well. ps: you're FUNNY !!!!

@genevievefosa6815 3 года назад

I have a feeling that the techniques for putting a gown together did not change that much from the Victorian to the Edwardian period, even though the styles did change. I have a suspicion that working class women did not change the cut of their gowns every decade, the way upper class women did, as she was more inclined to look neat and be comfortable, and she may have had one special gown for Sunday, or Shabbat.