I use this knife for hunting small game and fishing. Very sharp blade and the handle is excellent. The only reason I got this knife in the first place was because it was on sale for 50 percent off due to being used as a display model. I am very happy with this purchase. Cheers!
I have a black one now, got it from a fellow youtuber. I lend it to a friend who used it to process a wild boar and he was also very satisfied with it. If you can get a great deal like you did...well then you really got a good knife for a good price! Use it in good health!
Been trying to find a nice video for this knife, and you gave me one. I dig it. Your voice is very pleasing and easy on the ears, soft spoken and all. Great video, you got a new subscriber.
Thanks for spotlighting this knife - I was interested in it since I saw it in a video from the Victorinox booth at ShotShow 2016. Regards from the USA. Laura
I have this knife in alox. What I like about it is that there's no play at all. The knife is tight and it looks like a fixed blade when open. The quality is superior.
i have been looking at the alox version...but i still have this one...and since victorinox does not use different steels...it made little sense for me to get that one too. But yes...the alox version looks much better. Good to know that it is also much sturdier!
You are so right about the edge angle thing. I love Victorinox. I loved this knife as it was but you got me to thinking and I finally changed the edge... WOW!!!! It went from great to fucking amazing.
Same here! I got a black one as a gift from a fellow youtuber. I moified it to a bit less than 20 dps and put a micro bevel on it...i am very happy with its performance....much better than the one that I featured in this video....
Thanks SpartanJohns! Amazing video(s)! its just great and the overview is really detailed and, "let's say, civilized" :-D I mean its really good to know how those knifes could be used and how could it behave. I'm not a hunter or something, but I like camping stuff. I've got my Victorinox camper which is my everyday carry tool and now I'm thinking about some more rude knife for outdoor wood making/shaping stuff. So thanks for the info. Keep it up!
I have a Hunter Pro modle M One hand opening Alox with a clip best knife ever it also has a long Silver paracord in the lanyard I can not believe how great ot truely is I never leave hime without it !
I have several knives made by Victorino every one has been great. I'm sure that this knife would be as good as any of the others I have owned. Thanks for the video
This model has one of the most comfortable handles I have ever held as far as pocket knives goes. at least in my case...better than the opinels because the shape is more like a fixblade. and it is soft. what it can use is an edge angle reduction...
That seems like a really good no nonsense folding knife. The 440C is a great steel if done right, and I'm pretty sure Victorinox know what they are doing.
This was not mine. I t belonged to a friend. I now have one as well. I like it but hardly use it. I think it is very comfortable in hand. and I have nothing against softer steels nowadays...but I always look at Price/Quality/Performance....
Same price as a Buck 110 where I am so the Buck gets the gig, unless I move back to where it can get to -30/-40 in winter then I'd have to look for myself at that rubberised handle, might be just the ticket.
+stephan123321 Yes...I would definitely say that it is something different from them. And definitely not inexpensive... the price is actually the only thing stopping me from getting one... All the best, Denis ;)
That seems to be one of very few folder that behaves like a "real" knife. I have been looking at the Helle Dokka that is made here in Norway. They seems to be in the same ballpark. I like that it is possible to get them with a wooden handle. It gives a more traditional look. Maybe the rubber works better though :) Thanks for the review - Martin
+NorwegianWoods First time that I held this folder in hand I was a bit impressed. I like the feel of it. I do like wooden handles but I preffer micarta for all knives, fixed or folding. Even over G10. This being a hunting knife I think that the rubber handles are best suited for it especially in cold weather. Only downside is the price but if you are only looking at one knife to take along for camping...I think that this is indeed a good option as it is compact and opened it does feel safe in hand while working with it. Not a replacement for a fixed blade but as close to it as possible considering comfort in hand. Thanks for stopping by Denis
In my personal opinion, if that knife would be traditional red, with white cross would look so much better. This only one minus of this knife - the look. Looks almost like kitchen knife from IKEA. I know this is not very important for knife work, however if You paying for something about 60£ (price in UK), You want have also cool look. Especially, when You are collecting knives. Anyway, thank You for the very useful video. I like the way, how You talking - so calm, without scream. For people, which like to spend most of free time with nature, is really hard to watch some videos, where people screaming so laudly.
There was a time when I only liked black folders and knives. But nowadays..i like a bit of color. So yes...a version of this knife as you described it...would probably appreciated by many. Glad you liked my videos!
+TimBlankJ If I can find one at a good price I will definitely get it. I did like the rubber handle...At least in the old weather. I wonder if it will do well when it is hotter outside and your hand sweats. I did get blisters once from a rubber handle because of that. My choice would also be to go for a lower edge angle. 17-20 dps. I do not know how well Vic's behave with a lower edge angle since I was always under the impresion that the blades are a bit ofter compared to other brands. They are easy t sharpen and I never got a chip in a Victorinox knife...
A knife with a scandi grind is more appropriate for cutting wood. You have a hunting knife there. The orange color is so you can find it when dropped onto the forest floor when field dressing a carcass.
The name kinda gives that away, doesn't it? For working wood I personally prefer full flat ground knives or full height shallow convex knives. But depending on the edge angle you put on the blade...any grind will do just fine. My tests are meant to give the viewer some points of reference. Things which a table top review won't reveal. Hope you liked the video nevertheless.
How did I miss adding my cheaparse two cents to the comments here?! I know we've talked about this outside of this video, but I like to weigh in. Handle looks great! Cough cough GREEN! ;) That blade profile really intrigued me and encourages my sickness. Hate back locks though. I'm sure it's solid though. Great review, as always we can count on that from you my friend. Be well chum Craig
It looks very ergonomic. I think Wako showed one of these a year or two ago. I prefer one hand opening and closing for EDC knives and wish it was like that and also wish it had a pocket clip.
+traderjoes It is very comfortable in hand. I had a lot of fun working with it. I only wish I could have done more and see how it feels with an edge angle that I am more accustomed to. I think that in this case a pocket clip would hurt rather than help when it comes to comfort in hand as this one really feels very pleasent like it is. I could see myself buying one of these and working with it at the cabin or taking it along as a backup on hunting trips
I now also own one, used, received it from a youtuber. I like it a lot. But I did drop the edge angle on it. After a friend of mine processed a wild boar my main issue was taking off the scales and cleaning the knife. from this pov i prefer the cheaper alternatives from Ganzo which i can just let in the sink to soak and rinse afterwards, if something happens to those...not a bit loss... But this folder is by far to most comfortable folder i own
@@SpartanJohns hi Denis! Thanks for the great video! Can you show how one can drop the edge angle on this particular blade? Would have been great to watch such a video tutorial. And I believe you still own the knife. Thanks! Best, your subscriber from Central Asia.
50 degrees inclusive, in my opinion, is the best angle for a micro bevel. and by micro I mean less than 1/10th of a mm, after that, just use the original factory angle or, if you are as crazy as me, step it. 50 degrees for the tip, then convex grind that gradually becomes 30 degrees after the first 1-1.5mm (where the blade is about 1mm thick). That way you prevent most blade damage while maintaining ease of use.
+SalveMonesvol I find that with Vics I can get all i need from a blade with a 20 dps edge angle... The steel is a bit softer but, honestly, i never worked with one so much in one sitting that it went dull on me. And I have never had a chip in a Victorinox blade. If I was to use this model for procesing game that would probably change since I would most likely hit bone at a certain point. With most steels I found that a 40 degree inclusive edge angle will do a good job. Very few have gotten microchips or rolls...and working with a 20 dps edge angle is easy enough no matter what I cut.. I am currently playing around with smaller edge angles on convex knives...I have recently reduced the edge angle on a paring knife so much that it rolled while cutting bread on a wooden board...that was a bit much i guess...I should have thought about it more but afterwards I put a steep microbevel on it with an aprox 20 dps edge angle and it took no further damage while maintaining the cutting performance....
SpartanJohns I guess it's a lot of trial and error. I have a hundred cheap knives for experimenting, a couple of medium price folders and kitchen knives, like victorinox spartan, wenger, etc; and 5 higher end "FACONES" plus a 12" blade 5mm thick butcher's knife.What I really lack, are ideal tools because I live in an apartment and can't make too much noise or have a large bench sander: Next month I'm moving to the countryside and hopefully will be able to perform practical tests. If I had the money, an electron microscope would help a lot too.
+SalveMonesvol I also live in an apartment so there is not much room for powertools. I get by with sandpaper and larger sharpening stones...it can be a bit more dificult but you can learn a lot in the process.
I would like to have this knife, as it is a good looking knife, and is high quality (Victorinox). The steel is 420 HC, the same steel Buck Knives uses for most of their knives. The Pro Hunter is comparable to the Buck 110 in size, intended use, steel, quality, but I can buy a Buck 110 at Walmart for under $30 US. They have been on sale for months. I cannot justify paying twice as much for basically the same knife. The Buck 110 is sharpened at 15 degrees per side, which you could do with the Pro Hunter. When heat treated correctly, 420 HC is a good knife steel. If the price comes down, I will definitely buy a Pro Hunter. I know I would enjoy using it.
The buck 110 has a hollow ground saber grind, this looks to be more like a scandi. They may have the same intended uses, but I don't think they'll perform the same. Can't lose either way.
If was using a belt sheath anyway. I would go with the swisstool spirit, or a fixed blade. The swisstool does so much more for a few extra bucks. Great look at it, as always man.
+Ch33no I like the spirit tool but it is not nearly as comfortable in hand as this one is. A multitool offers way more options and it could come in handy in more situations but as a camp knife where cutting things is the priority i would go with this one...simply because it is so comfortable and stable in hand
+SpartanJohns Yeah but I'm sure most of your audience already carrys a pocket folder capable of those tasks..... A fixed blade would also be a more worthy option for bushcraft. Don't you think?
+Ch33no A fixed blade will always be better than a folder, imo. It will be more comfortable and it will be capable of doing more things...any fixed with a thickness of the spine greater than 2 mm will be able to help you out much more than a folder...batoning, prying aso... My friend, the one who asked me to sharpen this folder, has it for camping chores and mostly cooking or maybe sharpening a stick every once in a while. If that is what you need a knife for any knife will do but I feel that this is a good choice since it is a folding knife that is "high visibility" so you won't lose it as easily and very comfortable in hand, so if you have to make your fire with it, it won't hurt your hand. And should you ever really have to depend on this knife, i think it is not a bad choice... Of course a MT will do all those jobs but in all honesty most people shy away from multitools because of their weight...I like my Surge and I take it with me everytime I go out but I do that because I like playing with it not really because I need it...
Dont you think the orange one is alot better to find once a light flashes on it? Like when you drop it in the woods at nighttime? Or even during daylight.. Thats the reason I bought the orange one, liked black better but got alot of 'tactical black' knives so chose to go full functional with this one!
for hunters and as survival items orange is the way to go...i like darker colors. to me losing a knife is not really a concern. i tend to keep track of all my tools ...but you are 100% right: Orange is the safer choice
so do I but if i'm late at night near a fire, and accidently drop it (no lanyardhole) and take a burning stick, i see the orange one alottt better than the black one haha. I love black knives and everything aswell but as soon as i held the orange one i fell in love
the orange one does look good, i admit. i just like blak knives more..my Endura is a bright blue..and that would be my exception. if I have to choose a knife handle material...i would chose black or brown, grey or some other dark colors...the bright ones look great when new however with time they fade...
I wonder how well the edge would hold while skinning. If it-s the standard victorinox steel then it's pretty soft, so skinning a boar would require sharpening during the process.
+23madskilz23 I have hunting buddies who only use Vic's to skin, process deer and boar. Some of them steel their blades during the process, some have no problem. What I noticed was that some people really do not mind working with a duller blade
Say Heah Denis, It's nice, I do have the Pouch for it, I house my Victorinox Delemont Collection Ranger Grip 78, it fits it perfectly, and it matches my Lite Trio, of Mora 2000, Mora Hatchet and even my Baccho Laplander. Although I'm not much for folders, But I did buy a few over the last weekend, I got a very nice Diefenthal, did you ever hear of that brand ?, it's a nice one. Nice review as usual.
super Vorstellung! Wie immer ;-) Ein ganz tolles Messer. Sehr tolle Klingenform und sehr schöner Griff. Toller Stahl. Nur der Preis könnte etwas niedriger sein dann würde ich mir eins holen. Lg Markus
+Robert Craven Hi Markus! Danke! Und beim Preis stimme ich dir auch 100%ig zu....wenn der Preis ein bischen niedriger waehre wuerde ich mir sofort ein schwarzes Hunter Pro kaufen LG Denis
the blade is coated with something that is gumming up my stones. The factory edge was terrible. It would have been better with a scandi grind. The hinge and lock are awesome. Mine came with a pouch.
According to Victorinox the steel is 440C. Made in Switzerland. Don't know where the China stories come from. Says Swiss Made on the handle, and that is what Victorinox says. Thus more expensive because Swiss labour is well-payed. After one year, I agree about changing the angle, but it is great then for wood. Sturdy AND comfortable. Lot of nice looking Spyderco knives just don't hold up for rough outdoor use, and are painful in the hand for serious endurance. Not as overpriced as seems. I think it may well outlast a Buck 110.
Time will tell. I can tell you one thing that I noticed: this is the most comfortable folder I ever worked with. I lend it to a friend of mine who also took it out hunting. He was also very pleased. I modified the edge angle to make it perform better. So I can controll it better. By the way it performed...I would say 440C is about right. I have a black one now, got is as a gift from a fellow youtuber, have not had any problems with it so far.
israelpiper Don't forget the lifetime warranty from victorinox. Been using Victorinox since i was a little kid, best multitool/folders probably out there. Even most of my kitchen knives are Victorinox. Just love the brand
SpartanJohns I Just found the hunter pro online, it looks comfortable, but I wonder how it compares to the gerber gator or better yet, the gerber gator 2. The gator 2 is the most comfortable folder I have held so far.
bought one in my last trip to Canada. paid 70 CAD (pricey). only con is that it lacks a lanyard hole: if it falls on the snow, it is gone. just for not putting a lousy lanyard hole!. I put a thin lanyard on the blade but ... not very good, I would say. otherwise, the knife will probably last for 20-30 years if used it for what folders are meant. btw: it is a chinese make (shame!): we keep Feeding the Monster. best from Greenland.
+clusterguard I like tha fact that it has no lanyard hole or clip, but as you said it can be very practical to have such a lanyard hole for the situation you described. I like the knife too but I find it a bit too expensive... so I am waiting to find one used....at a better price
+SpartanJohns : yes, it was a bit expensive. The funny thing here is that Victorinox has a "Swiss-made" image while the folder is made in China (probably by pseudo-slaves).
as a working knife it is very useful. I also have one now(as the one in the video belonged to a friend), and whenever I can use it i do so with much pleasure
+TheElgatoloco I agree. A bit expensive...however, if you would want to get 1 knife only...not just for fun but to take with you on all your camping trips...this would not be a bad choice I have never held an eka swede 10 in my hand.. however, for my hand, the hunter pro is really the most comfortable folder I ever held. and feels very sturdy
+SpartanJohns No doubt about it, being the owner of couple Vics that includes MT's I have no issue believing it's fantastic piece of kit, just wishing it was within £45, need to wait for some promos I guess;) Thanks for the vid. Take care.
Nice review! It seems like the knife is a good worker... By the way nice shaveings as well xD. Actually I don't like the handle but I really like the blade. If there would be some kind of G10 handel it would be like a Spyderco knife. Although I'm not a big fan of backlocks this one makes a pretty solid impression. Question: Have you ever thought of trying a Linder Super Edge Knife? In my opinion it's a really good knife! Keep Going and Good Night! C
+DoDo I like the rubberized feel of the handle. If I had to choose I would take micarta over G10. I just find that micarta feels better in hand and it is a bit lighter. I have not tried the Linder Super Edge Knife. I heard a lot of good things about them but I have also seen more models that are called "Linder Super Edge" Maybe in the near future I will give them a closer look. Thanks Denis
I have the same orange one and a wooden one with sheath both in 30 degrees and work great. Generally I don’t consider a 50 degrees, sharpened knife. It’s quite dull in essence.
Videos in English is not present, but I'll try to add a translation, just very interesting how are fans viktorinoks abroad, where are you from? I'm from Irkutsk Siberia, where drunken bears walking down the street with a balalaika))) Joke)))
I am from Romania. But my grandfather did spend some time in Siberia(not willingly however). We are also drunken bastards, different spirits however, and we do not have that many balalaikas :) Here, many people enjoy Victorinox knives, they are reliable, everybody knows them and they are relatively easy to come by.
Hey Denis, top HunterPro Review! Darum mache ich ja auch keine Messer-Reviews mehr-Leute wie du können es halt 1000 mal besser als ich es könnte :o) Zu dem HunterPro schreib ich jetzt nicht viel, außer das ich alles was du so beschrieben hast, bestätigen kann :o) Der mitgelieferten Messertasche traue ich übrigens auch nicht so ganz über den Weg... ;o) Danke für s zeigen und LG Micky
+Blinkenstein1966 Hi Micky. Danke fuer den Compliment. Ich finde das jede Review von jemand der das Messer ein paar Stunden benutzt und das auch sagt eine gute Review ist. Manchmal sieht der eine oder andere Sachen anders und es ist immer gut mehrere Reviews anzuschauen bevor Man ein Messer kauft. Waehre der Preis nicht so hoch..wuerde ich mir eins sofort kaufen. Dieses Messer zu schaerfen und damit zu arbeiten hat schon Spass gemacht LG Denis
+CedricAda Gear and Outdoors the Endura has a much thinner handle. But it is more fun to play with...this one is sturdier, more of a working knife for harder tasks..both have thir advantages...but I would pick the Endura (FFG) over the Hunter Pro any day
Nice review. I'm considering getting this as my secondary knife for my backpacking trips. Does the spine have a 90º angle? Can it strike a firesteel? Thanks!
The spine is rounded. But you can square it out. As a secondary knife it is a bit on the heavy side. I got one with a black handle as a gift and carry it with me off and on in my hunting bag. For backpacking trips I prefer to carry an Opinel No10 Stainless
I'm also carrying an Opinel (Nº8) Stainless. But with the rainy winters here in Portugal, something I can use easily with gloves is a plus. Found the black version on Amazon for under 50 €, had to get it. Just wish the wood handle version wasn't so much more expensive.
you really responding to me? thank you, no need, what i can say is, i have the same knife, in black handle, its so good only sometimes sharpening is needed, this is for every blades. thanks for responding, don't be. i have two swiss army knife, swiss tool and hunter pro, will keep this to my next generation and tell them what to do with survival situations.
Nice folder. Overpriced in my opinion. Looks a lot like the Gerber Gator. Gerber sells the Gator 154CM folder for $37 on Amazon. I think it is every bit as good as the Pro Hunter for a lot less. And if you really want to go frugal there is a Gator with the Gerber mystery steel for $25 in Amazon. I like the 25 degree edge. For me it works in most instances real well. I tired 20 degree. It is sharper, more like a razor, but I think it dulls, rolls and chips faster. By the way, after sharpening lots of knives, to get a quick real good working edge, I sharpen with a 120 grit stone and then I strop. That is my favorite edge. It feels toothy, but so far it one of the best cutting edges. What do you se to test your sharpness?HA, you'll laugh at what I use. To really test how sharp a blade is, I use none other than toilet paper (unused of course). If your knife cuts through toilet paper, IT IS SHARP.
+mikedifeo I looked at the Gerber Gator here...it is at about the same price as the Hunter Pro. With 154 CM steel. And that would be the way to go. I have only experienced Benchmade's 154CM steel and I have to say that I like that one. My 551 Griptilian has a 20 dps edge angle and it took no damage. 25 dps is definitely sturdier but I also find that unless the grind is thinner than usual you will have to put more force behind each cut. I think that the best sollution would be a 20 dp edge angle with a +5 degree microbevel. It protects the edge from minor damage and does not influence cutting ability that much. A toothy edge can work very well in some cases. People that give me knive to sharpen are not really ones who sharpen themselves so I try to put on finer edges that will last longer. I found that for most these are better. I only keep a few of my knives with toothy edges. And I must admit that they can be fun to work with. Kept my ZT0350 with a 30 dps edge angle and a toothy edge for rougher jobs, cutting dirty plastic bottles and cardboard at the cabin. I liked the way it worked. It gt thru things with relative ease and kept a decent edge. I must admit that I never tried to see how knives cut toilet paper... I check for microchips with printer paper and for my sharpness test I like to see if they can shave. I like my edc folders to shave with ease and the ones I take in the woods I like them to shave as well but they must not really be "razor sharp". If they take off hairs it is good enough for woodworking.
Hi #SpartanJohns, greatings from Serbia! I consider to get this knife with wood scales and i would like your opinion about this knife year after this video. Chears!
I nowadays have one with a black handle. GOt it as a gift from a youtuber. Mine has a bit of bladeplay but I do like/use it. I prefer the plastic/rubber scales. I think the wooden handled version is a bit overpriced...but if you don't like plastic handlescales...go with the wooden model
If the blade moves lightly, I would suggest sending it to Victorinox for warranty. It should not have any wiggle. They will repair or replace. They usually charge only $5.00 to cover shipping back to you.
+Titanpower nu stiu exact la ce te referi cand zici "cutit outdoor". te referi la unul cu lama fixa? Acesta mie mi se pare ca se preteaza foarte bine si unor task-uri mai grele...
+SpartanJohns Da ma rafeream la unul cu lama fixa full-tang precum este un enzo trapper de exemplu,dar la un pret mai mic cu calitate victorinox.Hunter pro e un mare pas inainte dar cred ca daca lucrezi mult cu el...nu stiu cat ar rezista in timp,dar poate ma insel(tu stii mai bine pentru ca l-ai testat :)...Daca nu avea un pret asa piperat l-as fi cumparat si eu.
Depends on what purpose you have in mind. A bit too bit for edc but as a working knife it certainly fills the hand and with a reduced edge angle it can do just about anything you imagine it could do. One of the more comfortable folders. But you pay the price for that comfort in size and weight A friend of mine used it for field dressing a wild boar and was very pleased with it
On these style of knives of in general? On these style of knives, which were made for hunters, a pocket clip might get in the way of comfort in hand. They do make pocket clips for their multitool knives. some have them built in and some you can purchase and attach yourself. Mostly, I think, it is because they have been doing it this way for so long, it works for their customers, so they find no need to change a thing that works
honestly watching this videos are annoying, they just confuse you, (good video thank you for it) how ever idk why i just can't watch review anymore i can only look at videos with no talking and somebody just open and closing the knife, by no mean no knock on this video, but i think it my last review
I like many Victorinox products, but this one is junk. It's a horrible choice for even taking into the woods. It's a Spyderco with cheap steel. Just another silly flip knife out to grab a share of the huge market of people who don't know anything about knives, less about the wilderness, and very little about hunting. It will, unfortunately, probably sell wel because it is a Victorinox, and because so many people don't know how silly flip knives are for almost everything, but it's still junk.
Wow, those hundreds of thousands of hunters have been wrong about the Buck 110 Folding Hunter, and all the other folding hunting knives. Wow, I never realized! Oh my, all those folding hunting knives suck, and nobody it figured it out! Edit: All folding knives suck, thank you for telling us.
dude ,this is not your knife. 0:13 in this moment you lost me( thumb down 22 and 33h ( 31) ( - 30.12.2018) Merry Christmas punk. Do not touch this knife!
First of all bigger shavings are NOT helpful for making a fire at all! Second if you wnat to promote Spydrco stuff do it but don't misuse another great knife that is actually better coping with the job of doing the animal jobs
well...thank you Captain Knowitall! I have no idea what you are talking about however I will strongly disagree! Have a good one Chris! And thanks for sharing your knowledge and vast experience with us all!