Victorinox Venture: How I fixed the rattle and retention issues... / Hot Water Trick 

I bought a Venture Pro for a friend and another for myself. We are both very pleased after heavy rope cutting , hard wood carving and tool making . Very comfortable in the hand . Congrats to you Felix ! and Thanks!

I like the traditional look of a leather sheath but also like the retention and blade protection of a kydex sheath so I make a leather sheath that the kydex sheath fits into. Best of both worlds!

God bless you, for showing those folk that have an issue, a way of sorting it out! You are a Gem, Felix. Bravo! 🙏👍✌️🇬🇧

Greetings Felix. Well done as always. Thanks for addressing these issues. It shows the 20% that their voice has been heard. You're a good asset to the company. Bravo.

You are a champion Felix, a true McGyver! Easy, cheap, very satisfying proposals! Thank you very much!

Dear Felix, thank you again for giving some great advice how to improve - if necessary at all - the Victorinox Venture sheet. I especially loved how relaxed you did comment "the complaints" at all. I love this knive and I know it is not an official fieldknive by any army right now. I still believe in the Victorinox quality and your YT-channel, my friend. Best regards from the upper Coast of Germany René

Thank you Felix, I love my Venture Pro and kit! Thanks for all the tips and tricks, please keep them coming!!!

So looking forward to getting ahold of one for myself. To use an expression you might be unfamiliar with, you hit a home run with your design here Felix. In other words, GREAT job!!

Felix du bist eine Maschine, wie ein Schweizer Uhrwerk. Deine Tipps sind super einfach und leicht zu nachmachen. Dankeschön

Danke, Felix! Hab’ mir gerade das Venture in meinem Messerladen gekauft und mit dem Verkäufer über die klappernde Scheide gesprochen. Ich hatte dieses Video schon in meiner Liste und der Verkäufer wollte es sich auch anschauen. Das hilft auf jeden Fall. LG Claus

Another problem found by RU-vid people that most probably will never even use the knife. Really when I was younger I had one knife two of us used. Now I have enough knives I couldn’t use everyone if I wanted to. I really like this knife. You did a amazing job. As close to a perfect bushcarft knife as I’ve ever seen. I’m sure I’ll have one eventually. Can’t wait till you start making projects again.

I used my Venture for food prep and it has been amazing at slicing. The paracord sleeve fixed the rattle problem for me.

When I found this problem on my venture pro, I saw several RU-vid channels that offer solutions, but I'm keep waiting for Friday when you come back to discuss the new released Victorinox bushcraft knife, because I'm sure I'll get a good solution, and that's what happened, thank you. Regards from Bali Island

Lieber Felix, vielen Dank dafür, daß Du die Probleme der Nutzer ernst nimmst, auch wenn Du sie selbst für weniger schlimm empfindest. Ich habe den Wassertrick jetzt ausprobiert und muss nun sagen, daß das Messer jetzt traumhaft sitzt. Absolut einwandfrei! Ich lasse meine "Lederbandmodifikation" trotzdem dran, weil es mir mittlerweile gut gefällt, aber es wäre jetzt nicht mehr nötig. Wäre die Hülle aus Kydex gewesen, wäre es mir wurscht gewesen, dann hätte ich nachgeföhnt und nachgeformt. Bei diesem Material aber wusste ich mir nicht zu helfen. Eine zweite Hülle habe ich ohnehin schon aus Kydex gefertigt, um das Messer weniger auffällig führen zu können. Noch mal 1000 Dank für Deine Mühe und Deinem Herzblut, welches Du in das Projekt, auch im nachhinein einbringst. Jetzt hab ich gar nix, wirklich gar nichst mehr zu bemängeln an dem ansonsten sowieso stimmigen Gesamtpaket. Hoffe ich werde eine schöne Zeit mit meinem Werkzeug haben.

DIY modifications are part of meaning a tool your own. Great ideas Felix, thanks for sharing.

You always come up with clever tricks, keep it up, I enjoy watching and learning at the same time. On the subject of rattling and retention, I think people will always find things to complain about and that's fine, each to their own. When this knife becomes available here in Australia, will definitely get one.

Wie immer „einfach“ geniale Tips😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hallo Felix, ich habe jetzt das komplette System jetzt endlich auch und freue mich riesig darüber, ich liebe es! Vielen Dank für deine Infos doch ich belasse es so Original wie es ist! Was Andere denken ist Jammern auf hohem Niveau und warum soll ich es ändern nur weil es sie stört? Nein nein ihr habt euch schon etwas dabei gedacht! Herzlichen Dank nochmals und ich freue mich schon auf weitere Videos über das Venture PRO! Viele Grüße!

Genial!! So einfach und so gut! Vielen Dank Felix!👍👍👍👍

The knife sheath of the Mora Kansbol fits the Victorinox Venture very well, definitely much better than the original sheath of the Victorinox !

This is perfect! Thanks for this!

Respect Felix’s honesty and integrity so much I went out and bought a Venture. Did I need another knife? No but considering Felix had a lot of input into this product I trust it.

Thanks for professional advice Mr. MacGyver

Mann Mann, wenn die Leute sonst keine Probleme haben. Großartiges simples Messer, Felix! Ich bin schon sehr gespannt auf meins, das ich gestern bestellt habe.

I'm digging these videos on the Venture series and look forward to more! BUT, I was thinking the other day: "What could Felix do with a Victorinox SD?" I'd love to see some videos about that - or maybe just the 58mm knives generally. It's not that they are my favorite, but that I bet Felix could handle that challenge in ways that would surprise me.

Great tips, thank you

Felix always provides the best solutions, ,👏

I just fixed the sheath, and it works great! It is also possible to fixed it temporarily with a piece of duck tape inside the sheath. That’s what I do with some of my Mora sheaths. Thank you again! 👍

Servus Felix, vielen Dank für das teilen dieser Idee, du hattest es ja schon auf mein Video als Möglichkeit geschrieben. Die Scheide ist jetzt wirklich nicht unbedingt die Weltbeste, aber auch kein Totalausfall, halt etwas locker. Finde es gut, das du sachlich die Meinungen der Community aufnimmst und Ideen vorstellst, obwohl vieles der Kritik am Venture sehr emotional rüber gebracht worden ist, für meinen Geschmack zu emotional. Da sind schon sehr überzogene Aussagen dabei... Insofern, besten Dank und schöne Grüße aus dem Spessart

thanks Felix for taking feedback seriously, unfortunately the responses from Victorinox Customer Service were ignorant to say the least. Another nice solution against the nerving rattle I saw on RU-vid is a felt insert like you use for under chairs etc . I think best would be if Vic would release a proper fitting leather sheat :)

I've made the hot water trick today, with success. Very good retention know.Thaks Felix.

Great work, Felix. Victorinox must realise what an asset they have in you. Ultimately, I think they need to move away from the plastic sheath to a kydex one, and this would actually allow more modularity for the accessories.

Ich habe zwar dieses Messer (noch) nicht, aber solche Tipps kann man immer gebrauchen! Danke dafür lieber Felix! 👍👍👍 LG aus Oberösterreich!

I am very happy with the corrections that you have given us for the venture knife. Simple solutions at no cost.

Nice and tight, no more rattle. Thank you.

Hi Felix. Du has eine super prioducte verbessert - Respect! Bleib gesund. L.G. Nigel

MERCI INFINIMENT Très Cher Felix 🤗💚 THANK YOU VERY MUCH Very Dear Felix 🤗💚

I like that you have colaborated with victorinox to have a knife made however many of us started watching your videos and projects using the pocket knives in 91mm it would be very interesting to see what you would put in a traditional pocket knife for the average outdoorsman and what designs you could come up with ..i feel like this would be a very successful series of knives and probably even more successful that the venture series

Sehr gute Auseinandersetzung mit Fehlern! Top!

Simply awesome solutions.

Well done, Felix!

Very practical advice, very well-presented. Mora sheaths have a very similar set of problems.

Nice tipps. Thanks a lot

It’s so funny, with the Jeep inline 6 engine it was the Jeep killer because it lasts forever(I still have one). I think you’re onto the same concept but stifled because it’s too good. Keep fighting forward my friend!

Presentación excelente! Un saludo!🇦🇷

Another great video. Thank you!

Hallo Felix klasse Video wie immer Ich meine mich stört das bisschen wackeln nich aber der Trick ist ja wiedermal genial vielen Dank Felix du bist der beste 👍👍👍👍

Beautiful knives and awesome tips. Thank you for sharing.

Es ist für mich immer wieder interessant wie viele Menschen unbedingt "geräuschgetarnte" Messer brauchen und für die die Welt untergeht wenn das nicht der Fall ist. Ich bin zwar gerne geräuscharm unterwegs, aber das war noch nie ein Problem. Äste am Waldboden die durchs draufsteigen brechen sind lauter.

I’m reminded of these lines from the tale of Excalibur… “Which like you better," said Merlin, "the sword or the scabbard?" "The sword," replied Arthur. "Ye are unwise," said Merlin; "the scabbard is worth ten of the sword, for while ye have the scabbard upon you, ye shall lose no blood; therefore keep well the scabbard always with you." Felix you’re such a great ambassador for Victorinox, and it’s great that you’re listening to customers’ concerns. I keep checking the website but they’re out of stock, and there you are with three of them!

Hi Felix! Wie immer super, was Du da wieder aus der Trickkiste gezaubert hast! 👍 Ich hab mir auch schon ein paar Gedanken zu möglichen Lösungsansätzen gemacht z.B. mit diversen Fensterdichtbändern gegen das Klappern und Verdrehen, oder Leder und hauchdünnem doppelseitigem Klebeband für die Haltewirkung. Damit alles "rückbaubar" und somit original bleibt. Mir fehlt nur noch das "Testobjekt". 😊 😉 Ansonsten gibt es an dem Messer, wie auch am Kit meiner Meinung nach überhaupt gar nichts zu kritisieren und ist mMn richtig gut gelungen! Man sieht schon aus der Entfernung, dass da jede Menge "Felix-Immler-Hirnschmalz" drin steckt. 👍Ihr (Du und Victorinox) seid einfach ein richtig spitzenmäßiges Gespann! LG

Hey Felix you've done a great job and you're videos are awesome. I printed a kind of wedge on the 3d printer and glued it into the knife sheath. This solved the rattling noises and the bad retention. I hope those haters which done heavy batoning with a knive like that (au en Thurgauer😉) don't bother you to much. I guess thats part of social media.

Nice trick to get rid of the rattling. I bought the pro version an fixed it by adding a velcro strip to the pro sheath (that thing that hold the tweezers ^^). This way the knife cant move and wont rattle. It is less comfortable though, because you always need to open the velcro strip to pull the knife out. As soon as i get a paracord, i will try the method you suggested.

Super Tipps Felix! Und danke für die Erwähnung!😊👍 LG Flo

Salü Felix, Knife retention is the biggest worry I have with my Venture Pro, especially since I also own the Toolkit and cannot use the retention strap with the sheath snapped into it. I will therefore try reshaping the sheath with hot water, as you showed, this weekend. merci & ä gruess us äm bärnbiet!

👍🏼👍🏼I’m not buying such a knife right now but I do like it very much and would like to purchase some day. Seems like a very good capable package. Hard to be perfectly perfect for everyone.

Hallo Felix, zur Messerscheide hast du exakt meine Gedanken wiedergegebenen. Diesbezüglich habe ich die Venture-Messerscheide auf diversen Social Media-Plattformen verteidigt. Das mit dem heißen Wasser werde ich auch irgendwann mal ausprobieren. Liebe Grüße und ein schönes Wochenende Jochen

Great tips Felix. The sheath rattle was by design to mimic the call of the rare Foo-Foo bird found in remote regions around the world.

Thanks Felix , great ideas . In the future , if you need to video the inside of a sheath , you might use white paracord , for better clarity

EXCELLENT tips! Thank you!

👋🔥✌Hello, Felix. Thank you very much 👍👌💪!!

Felix, I am always in awe of your ideas. You should work for V as their lead engineer/designer. You would increase their sales dramatically if people knew you were behind every piece that comes out of their factory. THEN, you could have limited edition “Felix Immler signature” models straight from the company. 😉👍

Great Video

Bonne astuce, rapide et facile pour les heureux possesseurs de ce couteau. En parallèle, je ne doute pas un instant que Victorinox est déjà en train de rectifier le problème. J'attends encore un peu mais je ne serais pas surpris de voir cette coquille rectifiée dans les semaines qui viennent.

Lieber Felix, danke für die tollen Tipps. Ich finde Du und Vic. habt da ein tolles Messer konzipiert. Das Klappern halte ich persönlich für kein Problem. Man muss bei jedem Messer halt alle Komponenten bedenken. Wie vertragen sich eng gestellte Scheiden mit dem Griffmaterial etc. . Persönlich kommt für mich nur der „Heißwasser-Hack“ in Frage, da ich beim Bohren mit dem Messer doch so ein leichtes Schisser Momentum habe 😂. Bisher aber grundlos, da is nix verrutscht, ich glaube aber ich würde beherzter Kurbeln, wenn es etwas fester ständ. Nichts desto trotz, ein super Messer wenn man weiß, wofür man es haben will. Ein 42a konformes Messer für den Spaziergang oder das rumwerkeln, Zelten, Camping etc. Ich denke einige haben halt gedacht, hier käme euer Konkurrent zu beinharten Survival-, Kampfmesser Platzhirschen. Ich empfinde es als ein perfektes Pfadfindermesser. Grüße aus Deutschland.

Thanks Felix ❤

Das Messer ist top ich bin sehr zufrieden. Danke an der Stelle

Great tips Felix !!

This is a very timely tip. I wanted to use my knife as a neck knife but I was worried it would be lost. Thanks

congrats on great design collaboration with victorinox I'm ordering mine today you always have great useful content and tips your smart guy Mr lmmler

Thanks Felix. Top tips!

Excellent! Thanks, Felix!

Ich habe einige feststehende Messer (teilweise kleine edc aber auch das venture wo halt die scheiden nicht so gut sitzen 😅) und gehe nun nach Jahren endlich den Schritt und werde mir meine eigenen Kydexscheiden anfertigen. Habe alles was man benötigt (kydex, Ösen, Heißluftfön, Schaumstoff für Presse, das Ding um die Ösen zu befestigen ) erworben und freue mich für dieses grandiose multifunktionale Messer von victorinox eine Scheide herzustellen 🎉☺️

I was excited for this knife from your last video but wanted a simpler cheaper model.... then I found out that they already have this simpler cheaper model! No I'm very excited for this, as a cheaper Garberg, with more features, and a nice flat grind! Thanks for the video on helping fix some sheath issues though! For me, I'm more tempted to use the sheath to make a leather sheath, perhaps by cutting the bottom of the sheath and gluing it into a leather sheath, giving you more retention while getting to enjoy a leather sheath look

Great solution, as Always, i will usw this Trick for my old Mora sheets too,😊,thank you

Thank you !

Moin Felix. Der Tipp mit dem Heißen Wasser ist klasse. Klappt ja auch bei anderen Kunststoff Scheiden. 👍👍

Good tips Felix, thanks for sharing, God bless !

Victorinox needs to put you on a payroll. You have single handedly probably sold more knives for them and solved so many things. Great job to good sir.

I'm expecting my Venture Pro knife next Tuesday, Victorinox did not have the companion kit in stock, waiting for it. It is my understanding that the sheath is designed such that the knife can be used either left or right-handed (allowing the blade to orient freely). This would certain increase the "tolerance" of the knife, meaning more play in the sheath.

An easier fix for both problems is just put a little silicone seal in the bottom of the sheath insert knife to cut into silicone seal then drill our drain hole. This will both hold blade and keep it from rattling.

It's great that you try to find solutions in order to fix the sheath issue. Nonetheless I hope Victorinox will produce a better one very soon, or propose a leather sheath. It seems that the Venture is an excellent knife, but as there is no perfect tool it's obvious that depending on the people's needs several other options are on the table with different brands/models. To be honest my only complaint with the Venture reviews that I had was the use of the adjective "perfect" because, to me, a perfect knife simply doesn't exist : a specialised knife will be excellent in some domains but average or poor in other aspects, a polyvalent knife will be average or good at almost everything but won't excell in a particular domain. Exactly like steel : good edge retention means difficult sharpening, excellent hardness means possible brittleness, etc, etc Anyway the Venture has pros and cons but it seems to be a good and reliable knife if the user is fair enough to use it in a wise and logical way.

Nicest man on RU-vid!

Great fix, cheers!

Your great ideas are music to my ears❤😂

I recently aquired a Victorinox Venture. I am very happy in general. I do not see any problem with the plastic case. Any way, I will make a nice leather case for it. One with some space for a fire starter and a sharpening stone

Thank you, Felix! From Russia, with love❤ I wanted see this knife in our country) Before😢...

Hi Felix! Thanks for those tips, which seem to work very well indeed. I also noticed some negative comments on RU-vid. The one that concerned me most was the one about the knife edge taking some serious damage while batoning through a particularly hard and knotty piece of wood (oak, I think). Now, I'm not quite sure why that person particularly wanted to split that hard piece of wood, but let's say to test the knife, and leave it there. The edge took some significant rolling in several places. I'd like to examine this incident. Firstly, why would one want to split a piece of wood like that? It cannot be to make feathersticks (the usual reason given by bushcrafters), as oak is way too hard and the grain too tight to make feathersticks. For the initial stages of fire-making one uses much softer wood usually with a straight even grain. Once a fire is burning strongly that piece of wood could be included in the fire to make coals, without splitting it (in fact it would make better coals unsplit!). As you rightly pointed out in your launch video, the knife will perform well when used for appropriate tasks. In my opinion, this was not an appropriate task for the knife in the normal use for which it was made. It was an extreme test where many knives fail. The sheath. Here I'd agree that the knife ought to fit a bit tighter, and Victorinox need to address that. However, when wearing the knife on a belt and attempting a one-handed extraction would a tighter grip not make that much more difficult, if not impossible? Have you tried that? If the sheath is rigid like a rigid kydex or stiff leather sheath, then this is no issue as the extraction goes well, but with a flexible hanger like the Venture has it will bend easily, and won't come out. Unless, maybe one could push down with your thumb against the sheath, and grip the knife with the fingers only? How would that work? What do you think, Felix? Keep up the good work, and one hopes that the knife will become available again here in the UK soon. Cheers mate!

And this is the right man in the right place.

Awesome job my friend

Hi Felix, das sind super Tipps. Das klappern hat mich am Anfang irritiert aber Du hast vollkommen recht, wenn man es am Gürtel trägt, dann klappert es nicht mal beim Buggy tanzen und ja bevor die Frage kommt das wurde getestet ;-) Die Scheide macht was sie soll und man kann das Messer schnell einführen und schnell ziehen. Das Messer ist super konzeptioniert. Gruß #Andre_Doerck

Super Felix 👍👍👍 Dankä us em Kanton SZ

Good video Felix, Thank you for sharing it. JT

Primero muchas gracias por el vídeo y por los trucos, a mi este cuchillo Venture me gusta mucho y no creo que los problemas de la funda sean problemas importantes Creo que el verdadero problema es que un cuchillo de la prestigiosa marca Victorinox que además representa el producto mas novedoso que sacan al mercado en años, y que cuesta 75 euros y 120 en la versión pro, salga de la caja con problemas de retención en la funda, creo que deberían corregirlo, y alargar la funda 2cm mas en la zona del mango para evitar totalmente cualquier tipo de holgura, falta de retención o posibilidad de que se caiga, un abrazo desde España y gracias por tu trabajo Felix.

Felix, Keep helping. Never stop Rock’in 😎👍 this is bushcraft.

awesome tips my friend

I am looking forward to see the combat survival series from Victorinox 😅

I love mine I have the green standard one very happy indeed

Good as always 🤗 I’m just hoping the come back in stock here in the US 🤗🙏

When the knife is sheathed at extreme angles, the knife edge can dig into the sheath at odd angles and not guide the knife properly onto the retention tabs. Also the hilt guard on the bottom gets beat up on the lower center retention tab on the sheath.