Must have been bloody serious to abort so late into the takeoff run. I was under the impression that late on you are committed,assuming it reached V1 but there seems to be no attempt at rotate. Very lucky it didn't go bang! Hopefully crew are safe.
Martin Mc Parland The exception to the V1 rule is if the pilot reasonably feels the plane simply will not fly if it gets into air, and it’s safer to overrun than continue the takeoff in an aircraft that has no flight controls.
Martin Mc Parland if you’re interested in this topic google Omega Air Refueling crash at Point Mugu in 2011. A Boeing 707 rotated and left the ground and 20 feet airborne the #2 engine came off the wing. Captain put it back down and overrun but survived. That plane was not airworthy despite being well into V2 speed.
Теперь там вообще ничего не показывает. Вообще в начале разбега обычно даже команду подают "скорость пошла". А если она не пошла, чего сразу не прервали? И ппошли ли они скорость принятия решения? Явно безопаснее было продолжить взлет.
Looks like the flaps were not extended until after the drag chute was deployed. The stab trim was in the full nose up position. Makes me wonder if the flight controls were ever set for takeoff position, in addition to some other failures.
@@jankochanowski3252 no they are not. They haven’t really done as much as we have. Russia is doing all it can to benefit their country the same as we do. Only difference is that we’ve been involved in war after war for more than 20 years and Russia has not. The whole reason Russia went nuts is because a buffer state Ukraine decided to joint NATO and Russia wouldn’t stand for it as Ukraine is supposed to be a buffer between east and west and is supposed to be neutral. Russia didn’t really do anything that the US hasn’t already done in the past. And while we were supporting ISIS in Syria Russia continued the war against ISIS. Putin is certainly evil and needs to go but that doesn’t make Russia a terrorist nation. The Russian people certainly desire close relations with the US just as many of us Americans do with them.
@@keithwhisman Dont confuse the country Russia and Russians, Russians have suffered a lot from own country. Russia is the biggest world terrorist and crimes of the USA are not an excuse for Russia like crimes of imperial Great Brittain are not an excuse for Nazi Germany. Obviously not only Russia is responsible for the sytuation in the Middle East. Anyway USA is not a danger for the world peace today, Russia is. USA knows what the human rights are, Russia doesnt know. I am not surprised, you can be naive since you feel safe in North America. Russian Empire, Soviet Union or Russia today... always threat to international peace. I wish to the Russian people a democratic country, respect for the human rights and life in peace and prosperity. Regards from Poland.
@@jankochanowski3252 who am I to disagree with someone who’s country produced one of the finest king generals in history King Jan Sobieski who led from the front.
So, crashed the airplane and almost killed everyone because the airspeed indicators all failed? I mean, worse case scenario, use your 200$ GPS for speeds and look for a nice long runway to land on.
Not clear why they rejected the takeoff, I think the description is a bit mistranslated because, as you say, a single faulty pitot tube or dodgy speed indication isn't exactly a reject takeoff issue. Maybe there was an automated system that acted on the faulty sensor and automatically shut something down, forcing a last second rejection? Just guessing. I'm not sure how much it applies to the Tu-22, but these kinds of heavy military aircraft are pretty hard to get off the ground safely -- maybe he felt he couldn't ensure a smooth takeoff with the failed sensor not showing airspeed? It might be an aircraft that is really sensitive to rotation speed and requires precision otherwise it will stall.
A pretty good testament to airframe durability and conscious placement of fuel that this wasn’t a huge fireball! I very much dislike seeing the misfortune of any airmen or beautiful aircraft, nationality be damned! Glad to hear these guys were ok.
Tbh, there was another crash when one of the aircraft was descending to land in poor weather conditions, it's sink rare was far too high and it hit the runway heavily- causing the entire front portion of the aircraft to break off and burst into flames , meanwhile the rear section continued to fly for 50 meters or so and then hit and fireballed Only 1 of the crew survived, In my opinion the aircraft is actually quite fragile, then again considering the force of the impact perhaps no aircraft would have withstood it
@@Skank_and_GutterboyBro… watch that video again… that thing sent it through the bush a couple hundred yards before anything major happened. I can’t think of any supersonic bomber that could have done that.
@@TrevorSachko Dude. Watch that video again… that thing sent it through the bush a couple hundred yards before anything major happened. I can’t think of any supersonic bomber that could have done that.
In most cases you would have seen a big fireball with a monstrous plane like this. Especially when that wing broke spilling the fuel. Didn’t I see the wing break??
Looks like he abandoned take off too late, but these Tu-22 planes were tough to get airborne at the best of times and need long runways. Glad they survived ok.
Criticism can go both ways. This Russian bomber debuted in 1962 and upgraded. The US have B-52 bombers from the same era with upgrades. While this landing (or aborted takeoff) didn't result in deaths, A B-52 flown by a cowboy jockey did destroy one in a low level airshow unauthorized turn, killing all on board. The USA and Russia as well as many nations with sophisticated air forces have run up training deaths whether from poorly maintained aircraft, unauthorized maneuvers or just plain accidents. One B-2 stealth bomber crashed just after takeoff with both pilots ejecting safely. Laughing at our nemesis when America makes mistakes, throwing epithets at each other is simply childish and a reason many here aren't in the position to make life and death decisions piloting multimillion dollar aircraft. Military pilots fully accept risks with some dying to be among the best. Any of you man enough to restrain yourself when a decision comes from high up to launch a nuclear weapon from land, air or at sea? Only the mature and disciplined of men and women take up a responsibility that can alter history - WW III. A war to end mankind as we know it. Whether Russian or American, aircraft crashes are part of military service to prepare for the worst while hoping never to use weapons that can bring civilization to a standstill.
А у других тоже не показывали приборы скорости? В самолёте два датчика на скорость по бокам самолёта стоят. У нас стояли такие ранее. Только я техником на других был. Странно как то. Жалко самолёт ТУ-22 М-3. Корову на нашем аэродроме грузили в Особенности Национальной Охоты.
А ты сидел когда нибудь за штурвалом? У меня тоже был такой отказ и тоже прекращал взлет,на другом типе правда,но полосы хватило. Здесь же монстр! На глаз ничего не определишь. Если взлететь еще как то можно,то при заходе дров наломаешь точно слава богу все живы. Продолжил бы взлет,была бы катастрофа.
Я как диванный эксперт считаю надо мягко тянуть на себя до отрыва передней стойки. Даже пусть взлёт будет на бОльшей скорости. А что скажут не диванные эксперты?
During takeoff, due to water ingress, the speed sensor failed, so the crew decided to stop takeoff, and since the plane was fully fueled, the takeoff run was greater, therefore, when the takeoff was stopped, the runway was not enough
Интересует два вопроса: не верю, что на Ту-22 нет резервного прибора указателя скорости (спидометра), полностью независимого от основного. И второй: члены экипажа следят за скоростью от начала разбега. Почему же они решили прервать взлет после достижения V2?
Looking at the Take off run I was looking at the Leading edge devices on the L/H wing they seemed to be further out than the R/H wings Plus the Runway looks very short for an aircraft of this size Oh well it didn't go well ,
Can only assume that he was rapidly approaching V1 and didn't have the air speed to lift off. Must have had some kind of power issue. Hard to tell for sure but it looks like he might have waited to long to abort. Appears the crew survived. Thank goodness there was no fire.
this giant aircraft was going well over 100 knots when the crew noticed the pitot tubes were not working - which is way way too fast - they should have noticed this at 50 knots
It is with great pleasure that I can read comments from intelligent people referring to technical and objective conditions about this "failed take-off". It is a common accident, although not too frequent, and according to the explanation of several readers, it is clear that they are experts in aeronautics or pilots who analyze with a professional eye. Best regards
Снять с летной работы как профнепригодного. На аэродром близко не пускать. Не тот отказ, что бы гробить самолет . И разобраться с теми, кто его так научил
😅 Радует,что экипаж в порядке,Но КВС всё таки Долбоящер,Не работающий прибор не должен был его так напугать.Служил техником и обслуживал Ту 22 м 3 ,Однажды встречая две машины из полёта,Старший техник спрашивает у экипажа замечания или пожелания,Командир эскадрильи спокойно ответил, Всё работало штатно, только штурвал работал наоборот, От себя Вверх ,на себя Вниз.😮 😳😬 Ничего себе Косяк,но ,,специалист,,который не верно установил оборудование сразу признался,что это Он виноват.И уже под руководством Старшего группы всё было исправлено.И никто не получил взыскание.Только Отеческий подзатыльник😂А тут Прибор не показывал.😅 😅
Абсолютная вина командира!Нужно было взлететь развернуться и сесть датчик по топливу это не причина чтобы прекращать взлёт,тем более что с точкой невозврата явно запоздали
@@СергейГусев-г7у Еще один недоучка... В описании написано что у самолета отказал датчик скорости а не топлива. Как ты на таком самолете собираешься садиться с отказавшим датчиком скорости?
Those pilots were extremely lucky to have lived after this disaster. I wonder why it never lifted off? It looked like they had plenty of speed to take off.
According to released informations, the pitot tube failed (frozen?) during takeoff roll, and without proper speed reading they decided to abort, because is uncontrollable without that data.
In any "normal" aircraft there are at least 2 most likely three independent pitot tubes and thus speed readings - speedometers. It is very unlikely that all three tubes fail at the same moment (they seem to have done so in AF 447 but this was a very different situation). My guess here would be (assuming pitot tubes were actually involved in this accident) that this was a failure of the pilot(s) to check speed readings obtained from back up pitot tubes and compare them with the readings from the failed one. In a "normal" aicrcraft all you need to do is flip a switch to set speed readings to the working pitots. But this requires fast thinking and if possible good CRM. Since this was not in winter - as the video shows - there is no mechanism for all pitots to freeze at the same moment, such as seemd to have happened in AF447. @@szennyvizcsatorna2483
В них уже нет необходимости, методы войны изменились и теперь данный вид не выполняет полноценно свои функции, а служит лишь для разгонного запуска ракет. И не 40, а 27. А все модели проходят постоянно модификацию, благо потенциал был заложен большой.
So strange. Unlike most air crash videos I've seen. There's no one screaming or even making any kind of comment on what is happening. As if this a regular type of event 🤔
I'm thinking the pilots were also full of vodka and only started the starboard engine. The port went unnoticed until airspeed wasn't reached, at which point drunken argument over who forgot to start the engine begins followed by landing chutes. Oh, and crashing.
Можно подробности про экипаж Шилова ? Давно ли летает на данном типе аппарата ? Давно ли служит в ВКС ? Успехи какие в учебе ? Я понимаю когда гражданские хоронят 65 человек , потому что не могут определить скорость при наборе высоты . Но тут при разбеге ... Можно просто на глаз прикинуть сколько отметок фиксированного расстояния за секунду проносится и посчитать скорость . Наземные средства контроля не дают информации о скорости захода на посадку ??? Странные дела в авиации ...
Напоминает мне реальный случай Второй мировой войны: Увидев, что бомбардировщик B-17 был смертельно ранен, немецкий летчик-истребитель прекратил огонь по самолету и его экипажу. Немецкий пилот пролетел рядом с бомбардировщиком, узнал пилотов B-17 и продолжил сопровождать бомбардировщик над немецкой укрепленной территорией и мимо нее. Вот статья из Вики: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident Reminds me of a true WWII incident: Seeing that a B-17 bomber was mortally wounded, a German fighter pilot ceased fire on the plane and it's crew. The German pilot flew along side the bomber, acknowleged the B-17 pilots and proceeded to escort the bomber over and past German fortified territory. Here is the article from Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident Cheers Comrade.
При выполнении взлёта с аэродрома Шайковка (Калужская область), в процессе разбега, из-за возникшей разницы показаний скорости у членов экипажа, КК принял решение об экстренном прекращении взлёта. Самолёт (RF-94233 красный) выкатился за пределы ВПП на 800 метров на грунт, подломив стойки шасси. Экипаж жив, самолёт восстановлению не подлежит.
