Love the ViennaHorns, but I just can't get enough of THIS piece. The mellow sound of the horn in whatever its configuration is enough to make my hair stand on end. The most expressive, in my opinion of all instruments, the horn is my definite favorite. In just this piece one hears the brassiness of the high horn, the melancholy mellowness of the middle horn, the ballsy bass of the low horn. Incredible tenderness to raging martial power, the range is covered here like nowhere else I've found. Breathtaking.
This is the most beautiful French horn piece I have ever heard.
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French Horn player (cousin of the Vienna) This is astonishingly beautiful. All the ViennaHorns performances are. And let me share a new discovery. Go look up Russian Horns. It turns out you can make a French/Vienna horn sound without valves and lots and lots of loops! You just need LOTS of horns and LOTS of guys! Go learn for yourself! You'll be glad you did!
I don't think I have ever cried for music before the Vienna Brass. I'm sure this sounds melodramatic but I can't stop. Just can't. I'm not a person who can even read sheet music, but this speaks to me in a way other music hasn't. A lot to take in, amazing.
Thank you for posting this video. I was fortunate to play the french horn, for a short time, years ago. This sound allows me to remember what music sounds like, if you get my meaning.
I get it. I played it for six years, and regent I don't have the inherent talent to be GOOD, rather than adequate. You don't get THIS good without many hours of hard work. But without that innate ability all the practice in the world won't get you where these folks are.
@@tomswinburn1778 I picked up the French Horn, when I was in the Military. I played a Trumpet back then. Playing in a Military Band and playing for others (happy times and not so much), made me even more humble. To use another's words with my own inspiration... The French horn is like a deep chocolate. So rich in its flavor. I love the sound. Thanks Tom for knowing this too, in your own way. btw, while I played with a Military Band for 8 years, I always thought I was "adequate" too, when comparing myself with other musicians around me.
That's vienna Horn sound !! It's just amazing how these wonderful people can play this lovely instruement! It's just beautiful !! *-* That's why I am playing this majestic instrument !!
This is absolutely amazing! I love the soundtrack to the movie more than the movie.. but the majesty of the ship, and all the.. grandness.. of it just drew me in. Vienna is awesome!
+sunnyfannie Your son is to be commended for his taste in music as well as for his love of and dedication to his mother. And you are to be commended for raising such a son.
Thank you for this video. The French Horn sound is an instrument that reaches people's feelings and is so soothing and comforting. I would like to play this instrument again someday, for myself, and for others.
My mom always says the french horn is her favorite instrument, because it's the only one that can make her cry. I never believed that it could until I listened to this piece here, and by the middle I was laughing, and crying..... so to all you fellow french horn players out there, next time a trumpet says they're better than french horn, play this...
You are correct either way. In the Anglosphere, the horn is called the French Horn which distinguishes it from the English Horn, which is an alto oboe. (No confusion there, right?) In the rest of the world, the instrument is just called the horn, which is not the same as a basset horn which is a type of clarinet. :-) Vienna stayed at the valved horn in F with a crook and unusual pumpenvalves while Kruspe in Germany went on to create the double horn with a fourth trigger and rotary valves.
This is the same thing as the single French Horn (which is primarily a German design now) with a crook attached to the leadpipe and non-rotary valves. The Viennese experimented with a slightly different type of mechanical valve and stopped their horn development in the 19th century. The impressiveness of these players is due to their dedication while struggling with a single F horn. The goal was to keep as much of the conical section as possible because they thought it was mellow and pretty. Modern double horns added a bit more cylindrical sections of tubing and they are designed to be more secure in the upper range. The triple horn is the newest version of this development, but it is all based on the natural horn which started out to be completely conical from beginning to end. You might compare the cornet to a trumpet because of its mellow sound and its slightly more conical design. Otherwise, they are the same and play the same parts. So do modern French horns and Viennese horns.
i hit it the A above that high G but it wasn't real, it was a squeak. but this guy just nails it. i can reliably hit C# two levers above treble though.
Just for reference for you horn players, the note played at 6:30 (and again at 7:37) is, correct me if I'm wrong, a G in the key of B♭ concert. Translated into F, it would be a D above the staff, which is four ledger lines above the staff. The highest note that you would see in normal professional-level horn music is the high C above the staff (concert F). Many professional horn players can play a high C with good tone, but it degrades fairly quickly afterward. I personally specialise in the high register of the horn, but anything above the high D that was played here comes out really out of tune for me. What really astounds me is that these musicians are able to play these notes with such high quality tone on what is essentially a single horn. The Vienna Horn (or Viennese Horn depending on who you ask) is in fact a single horn, which is a lot more unstable in the high range. The extra tubing on the B♭ horn, or the double horn, allows the musician to hit higher notes easier than on a single horn. The highest note I can get with good tone on the F side of my horn is an A (concert D), and that is often a struggle. Also, many professional horn players can play up to a high F (concert B♭) or even a high G (concert C), each an entire octave above the staff. I personally have occasionally lipped up to the high F, and have just recently lipped up to the high G, but neither one has good tone of any sort. They come out as squeaks, and I can usually only maintain them for around half a second. If you guys are struggling with your higher register, here are a few tips. First of all, make sure you are playing on the B♭ side of your horn if you are playing a double horn. It really is so much easier! If you are currently playing a single horn, I would certainly suggest upgrading to a double as soon as you can. A good double horn to check out is the Conn 6D, which is (in my honest opinion) one of the best double horns I have ever played, besides really expensive professional horns. Holton makes a couple of good double horns as well, but I personally prefer the feel of the 6D. Secondly, check your mouthpiece. Mouthpieces that are more concave, like the Yamaha 26B or 29B, are better for the high register. They have a shallower cup, and a longer untapered backbore, which allows for a higher level or control in the horn's higher range. For more information on selecting a mouthpiece, go to the link below! hornmatters.com/2009/07/choosing-a-french-horn-mouthpiece-ii/ Remember, if you have chosen the French Horn, you have chosen wisely. However, you have chosen one of the hardest wind instruments (if not the hardest wind instrument) to play. It's beautiful when played right, and not so beautiful when played incorrectly. However, you have made the right decision in choosing the horn, as it is the most beautiful and colourful instrument. It can be dark or bright, deep or high, welcoming or foreboding. I wish you all the best of luck with this frustratingly awesome instrument! Best Regards, FWTN Horns Owned: Yamaha YHR 314, Conn 6D
+FWTNRU-vid Just out of curiosity, you mention that the vienna horn is a single horn, but I thought that it was a smaller horn more akin to a natural horn in the first place. Wouldn't that make the fact that it's a single horn a moot point since the bore itself as well as the length of the horn is smaller than the modern german style of double horn? Vienna horns are (as I'm aware) natural horns with pumpenvalven as opposed to the modern rotary valves we're familiar with on doubles, and their key is determined by the length of the crook that serves as a lead pipe. Wouldn't it therefore make it potentially easier to hit a higher note if the horn playing it in this piece simply calls for a shorter crook? I'm not trying to devalue your argument, just wondering about the difference between the viennese and modern horns.
GoldenPhoenix You know, I guess I never thought of that. I guess if you did have a shorter crook it would make it easier to hit higher notes. That said, I have no idea what crooks they use for this song, so I can't tell you anything more based on that.
When you havent been able to practice despite your hearts desire to do so because your horn was involved in an accident and you dont have the money for the repairs...
it is on the album entitled "Vienna Horns" that was released in 2004. You might be thinking of the "Director's Cut" CD (which makes sense as it is from a film), which does not include this track.
As a horn-player, I don't share the view that the Vienna Horns' version is better than the London Horn Sound's. There is indeed some wonderful playing from the Austrians, though I find the impression created in the quieter passages is precise but rather lifeless. And it is noticeable that the final high solo is performed on the shorter crook (unless my ears deceive me), which still makes it very difficult, but the sound in the run-up to the high concert G is not as well integrated as on the London Horn Sound recording. Maybe it's noticeable because for the rest of the track the sound is so incredibly homogenous. I think horn-players who don't play the Vienna horn continue to be amazed that such things are possible on such an archaic instrument.
I agree. The London horn sound has more tenderness and fragility to it which helps with the nostalgia and colour in the softer passages. The Vienna horns have an incredible power, depth and strength in the top range, probably because the actual instrument becomes brassier at high dynamics than a paxman and the reliance on F horn. Its as silly as arguing about whether a strong cheddar cheese is better than a refined Camembert.
I am pretty sure this is a different version to the London Horn sounds, the horn tone sounds very different I think. the Vienna sound is much rounder and darker than the english Paxman horn. Both are wonderful recordings though by amazing musicians
The vienna horns arrangements are not available for purchase. Unfortunately, you must be a Vienna Horn before you can play this. Good luck! Go practice.
From 1:50 they sound better than LHS (tune), but the timpane is not so good as in the LHS performance, to me! This is the most wonderful instrument of ALL! ♥️♥️♥️
+Wayne Warmack using apostrophes at the end of a plural makes it a plural possessive. in this instance it is actually the group "The Vienna Horns" which is already plural, so to identify the recording as belonging to "The Vienna Horns" you must add a possessive suffix to the group's name. Because the name is already in the plural (and ends in an S), you add an apostrophe to the end of the name and omit the S because the consonant sound is already pronounced and should not be duplicated.
he wasnt talking about jazz and besides, trumpets are loud and obnoxious... thats why i chose to play frnech horn. it has a light and delicate sound to it and can produce almost any kind of music and sound from a very slight lip change. it is very challenging, but pays off trumendously. :)
No hay duda de la calidad de música ni quienes la interpretan: EXCELENTE, sin embargo, mi comentario es una curiosidad y el EFECTO VISUAL de la fotografía, de las primeras cuatro personas de primera fila: si miran bien a sus pies la primera persona parece que tiene el pie izquierdo en un nivel y su pie derecho sobre otro nivel y además parece que la punta del zapato está al aire; la segunda persona parece que tiene ambos pies sobre un nivel pero las puntas están al aire; la tercera persona parece que tiene los pies en diferentes niveles y la cuarta persona parece que está un nivel más en relación con la tercera persona.
Actually the trumpet and french horn are not all that different. When I started out in band I played the trumpet. Then I switched to french horn. I was actually relieved to switch to the french horn. It is such a beautiful instrument and the sound it produces are absolutely astounding.
lol what? You can major in Jazz horn studies in certain colleges of music. Stan Kenton often had horn parts in his big bands. Paul Desmond had a duet with a horn.
i was just referring to the fact that jazz horn is nearly non exsistent. to each his own, but i prefer playing an instrument that can be applicable in nearly every style. some may argue that jazz horn is a thing..but i really doubt theres a lot of work for jazz horn. i think the horn is a very majestic instrument, and not a bad choice at all, but you cant go an insult my instrument of choice without some E-HATE. i was also a little tipsy when i commented, hence the brashness.
