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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 23 дня назад
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@serpentissanguis978
@serpentissanguis978 23 дня назад
F-14E ?🤨
@user-zz2qc9gw4i
@user-zz2qc9gw4i 23 дня назад
Ah yes, the all time classic F-14E
@galactic2042
@galactic2042 23 дня назад
Nice video title, P.S. typo
@bonwestlake3928
@bonwestlake3928 23 дня назад
How about a 1967 Ford Pinto VS an A-10 fight. Could get interesting if the gas tank blows up. . .
@Evodocturine
@Evodocturine 23 дня назад
Didn't you just turn into an average in ONE mission? Damn!
@kugelblitzkrieg
@kugelblitzkrieg 23 дня назад
Oh shit, the F-14E Phantom? The epic crossover we never got
@CakePrincessCelestia
@CakePrincessCelestia 23 дня назад
Gottem! :D
@jgl6793
@jgl6793 23 дня назад
There was a proposal for making a swing-wing Phantom called the F-4 (FV)-S, so yeah, that crossover almost happened😅
@geonerd
@geonerd 23 дня назад
@@jgl6793 Never heard of that before now. It's a good looking plane!
@Kenny_-gc2kj
@Kenny_-gc2kj 23 дня назад
Day 8 of asking for 2 morons in 1 phantom
@jesuschrist-alphaomega
@jesuschrist-alphaomega 23 дня назад
VMFA-112. flew the ultimate Navy-Marine version of the Phantom, the F-4S, in 1987. On January 18, 1992, VMFA-112 became the last Marine squadron to fly the Phantom II, thus ending a thirty-one year relationship with the famed Phantom aircraft.
@KillerKev1961
@KillerKev1961 23 дня назад
West Coast Phantoms here, and Kaneohe Bay Hawaii. S was slats, yeah?
@jesuschrist-alphaomega
@jesuschrist-alphaomega 23 дня назад
@@KillerKev1961 yes sir they were.
@ltjjenkins
@ltjjenkins 23 дня назад
You're Jesus you prolly ought to be able to fly anything...
@jesuschrist-alphaomega
@jesuschrist-alphaomega 23 дня назад
@ltjjenkins lmao 🤣 I do fly helicopters now that I am a civilian. I was with VMFA 112 as a F4 crew chief from 82 to 87.
@tp7954
@tp7954 23 дня назад
I spent some time repairing the An/APx-72 IFF, the Kit1a, and AWG-10A radar for VMAT-101 during the early 80s at MCAS Yuma.
@Uncle_Shamrock
@Uncle_Shamrock 23 дня назад
F 14E Phantom??? Dude it's still locked in Northrop Grumman and Boeing technology.
@BlitZnGodzilla117
@BlitZnGodzilla117 23 дня назад
Bro got access to those sekrit dokuments at Area 51
@lt.lasereyez8891
@lt.lasereyez8891 23 дня назад
Still there because Boeing can't figure out how to keep the door from falling out
@MasterBakerVideos
@MasterBakerVideos 23 дня назад
Don't think it's standard procedure to release tanks while almost upsidedown. 😆🛩
@jwhoward182
@jwhoward182 23 дня назад
I am very glad DCS solved the operational issues with the AIM-7. The Pk (kill probability) of the AIM-7E was less than 10%; US fighter pilots shot down 59[Note 1] aircraft out of the 612 Sparrows fired.[10] Of the 612 AIM-7D/E/E-2 missiles fired, 97 (or 15.8%) hit their targets, resulting in 56 (or 9.2%) kills. Two kills were obtained beyond visual range.[11]
@christopherchartier3017
@christopherchartier3017 23 дня назад
A lot of it had to do with the Vietnam war’s ROE, Vietnam’s environment and pilots trying to fire sparrows out of their operational limits. Not to mention the missiles weren’t being maintained or stored properly on the ground, leading to all sorts of issues
@Generic_Name_1-1
@Generic_Name_1-1 23 дня назад
Eh, the Missiles he is firing are 9Ms and 7F/Ms. Wholly different missiles than the 7E or 9J used in Nam
@booneylander
@booneylander 23 дня назад
Man the detail of this module is crazy. The way the ejection seat handles bend under g load and shake around. Just amazing.
@user-zz2qc9gw4i
@user-zz2qc9gw4i 23 дня назад
Damn the F-14E is such a cool airplane
@Hatfieldfarms44
@Hatfieldfarms44 23 дня назад
Yo were out here with the F14E Phantom 😂
@RMJTOOLS
@RMJTOOLS 23 дня назад
On the first match I find it unbelievable. 3 Viet Nam era Sparrow launches and all 3 worked.
@RT42069
@RT42069 23 дня назад
Those looked more like 7Ms based on the long burn time
@Generic_Name_1-1
@Generic_Name_1-1 23 дня назад
Not Nam era missiles.
@larrysteve7272
@larrysteve7272 22 дня назад
He aint running Vietnam era missiles, hes using missiles from the future designed on the lessons learned from Vietnam
@RMJTOOLS
@RMJTOOLS 22 дня назад
@@larrysteve7272 that takes all the fun out of it. I wanted to see 3 sparrows get laughed at by the NVA pilot.
@wackswax8423
@wackswax8423 20 дней назад
Thought the same thing lol
@Dan86130
@Dan86130 23 дня назад
the forbidden tomcat, the F-14E
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 23 дня назад
The F-14E "PhantomCat"?
@WornyTheHun
@WornyTheHun 22 дня назад
The deadliest stealth bomber
@RastaWaffles
@RastaWaffles 23 дня назад
Got to see a MIG 17 at an air show recently, it was crazy fast!
@nextgencreations8124
@nextgencreations8124 23 дня назад
definitely one of the best planes to see perform. it looks so good flying
@zaydrianjosh4397
@zaydrianjosh4397 23 дня назад
I was watching your video on my TV and I just wanna compliment you on your amazing eyesight. I can't see anything you see at distance and I've always admired how you can spot and identify things so well. Keep up the great content 👍
@ArcaneActual
@ArcaneActual 23 дня назад
Damn, that whole video you made the F-4 look really good and easy (don't turn fight)
@Gunfreak19
@Gunfreak19 23 дня назад
Took my first flight in it today. Flying, take off and landing is super easy. Wish the F16 was so easy to land in.
@ArcaneActual
@ArcaneActual 23 дня назад
@@Gunfreak19 that's sick dude! Yet to touch the F4
@Fishing4Fish96
@Fishing4Fish96 23 дня назад
F4 vs f104 dog fight. Lets see if theres a difference
@abdulmismail
@abdulmismail 23 дня назад
I do prefer Vietnam era Fox 1s and boresight sidewinders because more skill is involved, especially because once you're fixated on a target (especially with Fox 1s), anyone can creep up behind you. I mean, anyone can shoot down anyone with little or no skill with helmet mounted tracking or AIM-9X.
@Gcatt1
@Gcatt1 23 дня назад
Thank you for zooming in! I know in the past I've had a hard time seeing the Mig-21s but for some reason I could see these Mig 17s and was able to enjoy the video!
@RogerMartin-tn3oc
@RogerMartin-tn3oc 22 дня назад
Great video on the F4E and Mug 17 , would be interesting to run the same scenario under the US rules of engagement that IS pilots had to abide by ( that you had to have a visual identification of the target before you could employ the Sparrow misses severely reducing the envelope of the F4 ..( I read US pilots would lock a target then there wingman would go full throttle and spot the target allowing his buddy to fire the Sparrow beyond visual range ) simply amazing ! , In the video you a fault scissors with a Mug 17 and lived , simply amazing , keep up the good work !.
@billbrowning3021
@billbrowning3021 23 дня назад
Yes sir. Classic tactics for the Rhino. Using the vertical to get the turning room you need.
@standtallvets5386
@standtallvets5386 23 дня назад
Good Job on the F4 video!! I worked on all of the huge rebuilds and mods of the old F4s at Hill AFB back in the 80's. Those were all stripped down completely and restored to far better than new. Some were sent back to their units, and others sent to an unknown location. No doubt other types of mods were added since then, but all the heavy duty rebuilds were all done in huge hangers during those years. The F16 had just started to be built then too, but no where near the massive numbers of all the F4's rebuilt.
@Belford_4642
@Belford_4642 23 дня назад
That new F14E Phantom lol
@stefanblackadder5236
@stefanblackadder5236 23 дня назад
Your videos are so informative and cinematic I just love it.
@ryanking6811
@ryanking6811 23 дня назад
Amidst the blue skies, a link from past to future. The sheltering wings of the protector… the flames of hatred scorch the skies, igniting Gaia’s funeral pyre.
@travist7777
@travist7777 22 дня назад
The compilation idea is great. Keep 'um coming, please.
@TrenchSniper21
@TrenchSniper21 23 дня назад
Super nostalgic fight! Reminded me of Dogfights on the History Channel. Thank you GS!
@jmtpolitico80
@jmtpolitico80 23 дня назад
Great video of the F-4 you have been putting out!
@A_mouse_that_is_pink
@A_mouse_that_is_pink 23 дня назад
NO WAY THE PHANTOM HAS A SWING WING NOW?
@VigilanteAgumon
@VigilanteAgumon 3 дня назад
Look up the F-4 FVS
@Jr-uh2so
@Jr-uh2so 23 дня назад
He owes you. GS doesn’t need saving, if you get caught thinking you’ve got GS where you want him, it’s a trap, grip the ejection handles and pucker up…
@RT42069
@RT42069 23 дня назад
Except if it's a BVR fight. Then, if GS thinks he's good, you got the kill automatically
@Jr-uh2so
@Jr-uh2so 23 дня назад
@@RT42069 this is fact. 👆
@vicroc4
@vicroc4 22 дня назад
@@RT42069 Especially if a hypersonic missile is involved. XD
@RT42069
@RT42069 21 день назад
@@vicroc4 "I'm treating it like an AMRAAM so I should be ----" **boom**
@strahilmehandzhiyski
@strahilmehandzhiyski 23 дня назад
You know we need a dogfight video of F4 with five gatling pods!!!!
@MandalorV7
@MandalorV7 23 дня назад
Vs the A-10
@rrynek
@rrynek 23 дня назад
I don't know if MiG-17 had RWR, but Russians were able to build a warning device for MiG-15's in Korea. It was capable to detect a radar rangefinder from F-86 and as far as I am aware it was developed after they examined downed Sabre
@cdeAB-tb9bm
@cdeAB-tb9bm 22 дня назад
I don’t think so, especially when it’s export version, and even if the ‘17 have it, maybe only SPO-10(which don’t have fox1 warning function)
@thejetfighter
@thejetfighter 23 дня назад
Nice Phantom mission. Great video 😀
@StuartKoehl
@StuartKoehl 23 дня назад
As long as the Phantom stays over 400 knots, it has superior transient maneuvering capability over the MiG-17. The MiG's manual controls develop very high stick pressure over 400 knots, which makes it slow to roll, with very heavy elevators to book. In fact, the MiG has a control stick extension that lets the pilot raise the top of the sick by 18 inches, to get more leverage. On the other hand, if the Phantom gets slow, the MiG can easily turn inside and stay with it through any reversals.
@valentinstrobel1791
@valentinstrobel1791 23 дня назад
Gotta love the f14e phancat
@lord_kerman
@lord_kerman 23 дня назад
Phantcat: 😕 Tomtom: 😃
@alextowers3564
@alextowers3564 23 дня назад
Phantomcat
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 23 дня назад
You guys took out almost the entire Vietnamese air force in 15 minutes lol.
@theyoungknight138
@theyoungknight138 23 дня назад
Love the vids gs let’s see some more gwat missions maybe some nvg???😁😁 much love
@AH6man
@AH6man 23 дня назад
Love these chaotic battles
@rowdyace5719
@rowdyace5719 23 дня назад
i sure do love the F-14E phantom
@kgilboe
@kgilboe 23 дня назад
just once I want to hear Danger Zone cranked up when you engage
@tubbs2132
@tubbs2132 23 дня назад
On an F-4 it'd havta be something earlier. Breadfan maybe or something from the Stones
@PredatorFly
@PredatorFly 23 дня назад
Hi, can you make a detailed video on how to set the main controls to manage the radar and weapons? I would also like to understand how to use the AIM-7 and AIM-9. Thank you
@SagarshamshyerNembang-cx9kc
@SagarshamshyerNembang-cx9kc 23 дня назад
I've asking for this for last 3 years.... Finally.. I got to see that
@GimmeDaBacon
@GimmeDaBacon 23 дня назад
Love the new modern aircraft but i need to see more of these older aircraft
@johnandrewmunroe
@johnandrewmunroe 19 дней назад
Love these medleys. Lots of work I guess but hope to see more!
@abbaerfani9007
@abbaerfani9007 23 дня назад
Hello GS I did asked you last week for MIG17 fight thank you so much for doing this and I hope you can kill one with canon next time thanks again l love your video's keep on great work ❤❤❤
@mugkatte
@mugkatte 23 дня назад
Ah the all time classic - F-14E Phantom
@madjic-uc8hf
@madjic-uc8hf 23 дня назад
Thanks a lot for your channel that I follow for months, I'm surprised that even modern planes don't have anything to keep them from crashing (sort of GPWS) are their radar fulfilling this task ? Can they fight in a heavy fog in a mountain area, for example ? Would probably look like something in between Dogfight and BVR I suppose ? And if yes, can you go on with that ? (all this to ask that ;-)
@HypoceeYT
@HypoceeYT 23 дня назад
Ground Collision Avoidance Systems, very much like GPWS, have been routine since at least the 4th generation of fighters, probably the 3rd too. You hear them activate all the time in his videos. The HUD and other displays flash big Xes and there's either a double rising buzz or a voice bark "Pull up, pull up!" There is now an Automatic GCAS. It automatically rolls upright and avoids the ground if the pilot isn't making input, usually in a G-force Loss of Consciousness in training. It's been deployed on lots of F-16s since 2014, and Lockheed Martin's PR department claims it's saved 13 lives so far. It was going to be deployed into F-35s in 2019; I assume it was, but I'm not bothering with further research.
@IbweEbambe
@IbweEbambe 23 дня назад
I love this chanel and dcs.
@tomdtom5407
@tomdtom5407 23 дня назад
Lima Sidewinders against Mig-17s? Not fair. Bravo Sidewinders would be more historically apropriate.
@Peter_Morris
@Peter_Morris 23 дня назад
That’s what I was thinking. All the Sidewinders he fires at MiG-17s sure do fly straight and track really well. Looks nothing like the gun camera footage from Wings over Vietnam from 90s Discovery Channel.
@RT42069
@RT42069 23 дня назад
Looked like he was also firing AIM-7M as well, judging by the longer burn time. AIM-7D or E and AIM-9E or J would be the Vietnam era loadout iirc
@yester8039
@yester8039 23 дня назад
Bro its 2 F-4E's against 3 MIG-17's, you really think the deciding factor is the Lima? A couple of AIM-7E-2's and 9E's and J's would do the job either way not taking into account the... you know, humongus difference between aircrafts and technology
@tomdtom5407
@tomdtom5407 23 дня назад
@@yester8039 he was taking all aspect shots. If the Winders were Bravo, he would have to position 6 o clock behind the Mig. This makes a huge difference in tactics.
@yester8039
@yester8039 23 дня назад
@@tomdtom5407 well, i very much doubt F-4E's would carry Bravos in vietnam outside very early flights where air to air was not even a thing yet, E's most likely
14 дней назад
Beautiful sandwich maneouvre on the 2nd bandit! Classic team work ACM kills!
@vicroc4
@vicroc4 22 дня назад
That engagement with you dragging the MiG and the other F-4 nailing him is exactly the kind of thing that they were trying to teach in TOP GUN, because they weren't teaching those basic air combat tactics in the initial training of fighter pilots by the time of Vietnam.
@willbraxton1843
@willbraxton1843 23 дня назад
Thanks I am wishing to see you try your skill fighting Mig 21s and 17s flying an F8 or am F100
@kindasupersonic7114
@kindasupersonic7114 23 дня назад
lol the whole air wing owes you a beer
@JBSmoke1
@JBSmoke1 23 дня назад
Good to see you carrying bags into a fight. The F-4 was always thirsty if you tapped blower and a no bag ride was always a very short trip.
@raxanci
@raxanci 23 дня назад
You carry the Spirit of Vati Moelders
@websterl.william106
@websterl.william106 23 дня назад
this new f-14E Phantom holy smokes skunk works has ben busy
@sillyslapper92
@sillyslapper92 23 дня назад
Now we have the F-4, I'd like to see how Fox-1 & post-merge dogfighting the F-4 while in the Mig-21 works
@alibadawi3398
@alibadawi3398 21 день назад
Those vapors coming off the wing man… thank you GS ❤
@ThomasThePanzerTank
@ThomasThePanzerTank 23 дня назад
With the F4s and MIGs being featured heavily any chance of doing a Constant Peg history lesson/dogfight series?
@moistsp00n98
@moistsp00n98 23 дня назад
I would love to see an multicrew F-4E and an A-4E joint strike mission + dogfights, with carrier ops
@robertkalinic335
@robertkalinic335 23 дня назад
Whole time i was waiting for those 21s to finally show up.
@bartdebruijn4599
@bartdebruijn4599 23 дня назад
The Phantom really feels like you're flying a brick with a big rocket strapped to it :D
@lagboi4539
@lagboi4539 23 дня назад
Flying out with that F-14 Phancat
@hernerweisenberg7052
@hernerweisenberg7052 22 дня назад
10 out of 12 recent videos are about the F-4. Understandably so, since its the new hype. But about time you show us how to kill it :D
@ziepex7009
@ziepex7009 23 дня назад
Man i love Digital COmbat simulator! F14E is a great plane too!
@Richard-do9xt
@Richard-do9xt 23 дня назад
Every time I see you drop the tanks i wonder if u can use them as a distraction in a dog fight either as a missile defense or to force someone to break off to avoid a collision
@AfroAviator626
@AfroAviator626 23 дня назад
These early IR missiles are tracking too well if you ask me. I thought the hit rate was like 20% or something like that. These missiles on dcs work 100% of the time.
@Generic_Name_1-1
@Generic_Name_1-1 23 дня назад
The 9L/M isn't an Early missile
@urbancoyote4840
@urbancoyote4840 23 дня назад
I so do love the MIG 17 it's and outstanding dogfighter
@kylemackenzie6282
@kylemackenzie6282 23 дня назад
So there was a mig17 that had fox 2 capability but it was a late model
@CaptainBeano-lz6mm
@CaptainBeano-lz6mm 23 дня назад
GS surely do F4 vs Mig-19. I think that will provide a big challenge for the f4 in a dogfight because of its insane rate fight and thrust to weight ratio
@horusfalcon
@horusfalcon 22 дня назад
I think you may have found your new favorite fighter aircraft. Interesting stuff here.
@andrewburkholder3842
@andrewburkholder3842 23 дня назад
im kind of surprised how easily you mopped up these migs given how tough a 21 was in a previous video.
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 23 дня назад
I'd like to see a bomber intercept mission with AIM-7s vs. Tu-95s.
@HEATSEEKR
@HEATSEEKR 23 дня назад
Didnt know Grumman made a new F-14 looks pretty baller
@wongjowoganteng
@wongjowoganteng 21 день назад
One of the most ironic thing about the AIM-7 is people mostly got 3/1 of 'em still attached to the pylons after RTV/RTB
@BladeKi11a
@BladeKi11a 23 дня назад
Patiently waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”
@MxerEdits
@MxerEdits 23 дня назад
Could you please do f15 vs su 35 bvr but your in the su 35, id like to see the flankers perspective.
@16gauge90
@16gauge90 23 дня назад
Is the Cessna A-37 Dragonfly "Super Tweet" available for action?
@Sethdarunner
@Sethdarunner 23 дня назад
Hey GS, could you do bandit unknown videos with the F4E?? And I would also love to see you get some gun kills with it
@mohamadbehtash9386
@mohamadbehtash9386 23 дня назад
Hey man. Could you please make a video about whats the best setting ( not the set up ) in dcs?
@arthurnogood7450
@arthurnogood7450 23 дня назад
That pal didn't even drop his tanks, that's so humiliating.
@pigeonmail8374
@pigeonmail8374 23 дня назад
Could you try doing the backflip maneuver to see if it works on DCS mow that f4 is here?
@daniel_f4050
@daniel_f4050 22 дня назад
God but I love the Rhino. No way I’ve got the brain capacity (or computer) to play DCS, but it sure does look gorgeous.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 23 дня назад
The MiG-17 was actually a very good fighter except for one major problem: anytime you turn on reheat (afterburning) the plane became extremely vulnerable to IR-guided air-to-air missiles.
@Matterian
@Matterian 22 дня назад
GS: I don't want to have to fight 2 migs!! US: But GS those 2 Migs are STILL out numbered by you!!!!!
@SSJ4Brohan
@SSJ4Brohan 23 дня назад
F-14EX Strike Phantom with the Fox-4's that can chaff and flare.
@jordanstrahan4307
@jordanstrahan4307 23 дня назад
Need some Mig 17 videos
@jettblack9696
@jettblack9696 23 дня назад
We should get a rematch f-15c vs f-4e
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 22 дня назад
3:43 - Interesting philosophical question. But why bifurcate when you could have both? That way you get two beers! 😁 "Friends don't let friends get shot down."
@rubenatch
@rubenatch 23 дня назад
There are many legends about the evaluation process of F-14. What about a F-4 vs F14 match?
@griffin5012
@griffin5012 23 дня назад
Could you try something new - create a module status update video specifically related to upcoming REDFOR modules - MIG-17, MIG-23, MIG-29, SU-17/22 and J-8II ??
@Dancing_Duck-sp8hq
@Dancing_Duck-sp8hq 23 дня назад
Oh boy, my favorite aircraft, the F-14E
@Hustler9g
@Hustler9g 22 дня назад
You gonna do any 1v1 guns fights with this thing or what? I want to see what it's got against a mig mano e mano
@craigcampbell2427
@craigcampbell2427 23 дня назад
Ok letss see the F4 vs the F14 please.
@chrissheffield5468
@chrissheffield5468 23 дня назад
Randy Cunningham was not harmed during the making of this motion picture.
@nate5land
@nate5land 23 дня назад
Genuinely curious about F-4 vs F-15 vs F-22 (gen 3, 4, & 5 air superiority).
@BenParkes-wz5bd
@BenParkes-wz5bd 23 дня назад
Video idea: I-16 vs Su-57 Felon
@stevevanhorn1909
@stevevanhorn1909 23 дня назад
Just love the phantom !!!
@youngbloodhobby2103
@youngbloodhobby2103 11 дней назад
Watched this while listening to Meteor's latest album. SO EPIC 🔥
@Aotearas
@Aotearas 22 дня назад
That parchute guy @10:40 was NOT having a good time seeing you barrel down on him like that. Poor guy probably thought he's about to be roadkilled.
@DylanDavidVindasLopez
@DylanDavidVindasLopez 23 дня назад
F4E vs F-35 DOGFIGTH, guns only!
@J0ro2K
@J0ro2K 23 дня назад
Didn’t know the F-14 had an E variant.
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