Vikings Valhalla: Diversity goes off track 

Shit, thanks man, always been a big fan and appreciate you stopping by, and charitably not commenting on the several tropes or characteristics I more or less swiped from you. Best to Tatiana.

Oh shit it's the legend himself.

Would love to see you drunkenly rant about this show

Vikings were not exclusively white. DNA of viking burials prove they were very much Asian. Doesn't science suck ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8kEYYOQpTVQ.html&feature=shares

Actually a Urkrainin, red-headed,Bi polar, Down syndrome actor should play him instead!!!!

@@returnofthegorgon8687 *her, you transphobe!

how much money are we talking?

* thumps hammer* next item !

Smart@ss DBs, the lot. Sure I'm down for it. Look how they've *historically* treated dwarves and little people in Hollywood. Plus he's a cutie pie. Too bad he's married.. He'd get more @ss than Tyrion Lannister did.

Man I'm so sorry about this. See, I'm Czech, and I admire your history of your ancestors and their mythology. I really understand you, you should stand for your legacy and truth.

@@williamjordan5554 The ignorant arrogance still applies. I can't blame them for thinking it was American. Have you seen what the woke bullshit has done?

@@williamjordan5554 gender and race swapping are very much American trends though. And American neolib sentiments have spread somewhat globally.

@@tonywoutrs Neo-lib stuff like post-modernism started in France. Perhaps they wanted it back.

@@2ndamendment1776 Yes. Woke goes broke. But ignorant arrogance created Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and Tesla.

Exactly. But They won't do that because they want to promote the concept of Equity instead of equality. Which is essentialy "replacement". When they replace a white character, it's essentialy a message.

I think the reason for this "extreme" diversity agenda we have seen in popular media in recent years, is that no Hollywood show or Netflix show etc, wants to be accused of not being diverse enough. Context doesn´t matter anymore. This has become political. So they include non-white characters everywhere, even where it doesn´t make sense, like a part of a bucket list. Instead of focusing more on stories taking place in other parts of the world, or in modern multi-cultural societies, where diversity should come naturally. Diversity is great, so why not diversity in story-telling and choice of environment? Why a black Robin Hood? Make a movie about an African hero instead.

Abso-fucking-lutely!!!

There are so many interesting historical saga in others continents. They are being 0 inclusive, forcing multiculturalism only in European sagas and myth. As a Latin American, I ask for more shows about our culture. Supposedly, if they really want to be inclusive and multicultural, they should do it.

It's deliberate demorolisation.

it's just common sense.

As a twice Trumper / Evangelical Christian conservative Asian American, I actually have NO problem with this, provided they don't change the "culture" of the historical person being played and try to inject some "ebony" into them. They should be very English, white (gasp) etc. And provided that they are picked for the role because their acting exquisitely fits those roles. Are minority actors to be FOREVER BANNED from Shakespearian theaters save as slaves or chattel? Banned from taking part on major operas as MAIN characters? Singing opera pieces dressed in full costume?? If historical RACIAL accuracy is the standard in the West, all Blacks, Asians and Hispanics should just give up on any Western period pieces which are VAST. If you think about it, it's quite absurd. I have NO problems with a black Queen Elizabeth, Asian Hamlet, or a Hispanic George Washington.

@@jacobh9487 you are insane and unsurprisingly an American.

@@jacobh9487 Ofcourse not...But I am sure there are roles blacks can play that are not historically another race....in Fantasy shows it does not matter, but this is historical....Yes I do get your point in Shakespear for example or Opera. But not all those plays are based on historical characters so it could be perfectly believable that one or two blacks were around back then (and not as servants) I just don't like changing the race of a person who relly existed.

Might I add that someone with more melanin would be suffering from a vitamin D deficiency in such a dreary environment. As someone with vitamin D deficiency I can tell you it makes you feel weak and tired all the time. People with more melanin, or natural sunblock, need more sunshine than say someone from the northern poles. So her being a strong warrior is kind of a stretch. Maybe a supportive character with narcolepsy or other vitamin D deficiency side effects.

Couldn’t agree with you more, this is exactly what I was thinking when I watched this show.

Lmao the black shield maiden was the best warrior of all the shield maidens and was killed off so easily. Also the black jarl had her shield up blocking arrows in one scene then cut to next scene wit no shield. Lmaooo it was so laughable

😂😂 for real tho!

"In the end they were like “OK, we ticked off our box, now fuck off” That's basically Kynes in the new Dune film. They give her basically no character development, they just keep shoving the camera in her face as if to say to the audience "look, we're woke too!"

"can’t have an all white cast in a Scandinavian historical drama anymore" Actually the Viking slave trade was HUGE, probably the most defining part of their civilisation. Chances are at least a few of every race would be in there somewhere in chains or otherwise.

It’s historical fiction… get a grip cupcake

@@dontbemad7742 Its an unrealistic historical fiction so unrealistic it doesn't even feel like its been adapted from history its more fantasy. Might as well be a spin off of game of thrones. And its insanely cringe.

@@meh...9500 Over one character? You’re clutching at straws here.. Be a grown up and stop getting offended over nothing. Cupcake.

@@dontbemad7742 I think it's ridiculous too. I don't even bother to start watching any of these shows anymore.

@@dontbemad7742 Nah not just the black female Jarl also the fact that there are female warriors "shieldmaidens" there is a very little chance of them existing and to say that they did is clutching at straws be a grown up stop getting offended over history having to much bigotry for you to bare that you have to go and change history to feel better about yourself. Also that one character, the black female Jarl is a very significant point/ cringe festival. Dark skinned people barely existed in Scandinavia and on the very rare cases they where there, they would most likely be slaves captured from raids around the Mediterranean. Them even being remotely in power in that region of Europe is really just a liberals wet dream. And it is even more ridiculous if their a female. Lone female rulers where rarely accepted let alone being black. So stop clutching on to your twigs and grow up and accept history for what it is. Cupcake.

Nah a series about Joan of Arc but instead it’s John of Arc

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Better yet, let them whitewash Black Panther and rename it, WHITE PUMA.

Martha* :p

@@ketura_v_art white puma😂 you killed me🤣🤣🤣🤣

as an asian man i agreed

As a Scandinavian, I also agrees.

*J.R.R. Tolkien to Henry Resnick:* "Rhun is the Elvish word for ‘east.’ Asia, China, Japan, and all the things which people in the west regard as far away. And south of Harad is Africa, the hot countries." 😂😂

It's weird tbh. They are like using minorities to prove a point that they are diverse or whatever you want to call it. Using them as a prop of some sort. I don't understand it.

there is not enought historical showsa bout africa which is shamwe so much potential

🎯💯

Harrison ford as obamba!

A Shaka Zulu show would not do as well because it not deemed as influential enough to be successful that’s why they do this inclusion and diversity shit because wen they try to do their own thing e.g black panther people still complained how it was extreme and negative towards whites so now they’re just like fine we will swap your characters are u happy now

@@claudemanemorgan2588 Absolutely no one complained about black panther, thats just black fragility.

Why stop at "Shaka Zulu" let´s go for broke and redo "Roots" with an all caucasien cast? Well throw in a few Inuit actors as well, as they are totally overlooked as it is. "Disclaimer: Could contain bits of sarcasm!" ,-)

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that the show is taking historical liberties as is. Of course an african woman being a skandinavian Jarl is a stretch, but it isn't the worst stretch in the show, no matter the diversity hire. I personally was more bothered by her death than her existence, because that's where their agenda actually showed.

It's disgraceful and it has to be punished.

You do know the viking culture was black. The Danes, Celts, Picts, Saxons were black

@@tommyjohnson6410 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP WITH THIS HISTORICAL REVISIONISM.

@Lvisredalin Hey, I'm not the one saying it. Origin of Anglo-Saxon race by Thomas William Shore chapter 7 called Our Darker forefathers can be found online. There are older books telling you they were black people. Those books are now backed up by dna scientists. So look up Vikings dna read all the articles you can. They are all saying that out of 400 plus burial mounds found throughout Europe, they weren't blonde hair and blue-eyed people but and dark hair people. Dark-haired people are referring to black people just in case you don't know

@@tommyjohnson6410 Oh, absolutely! It makes perfect sense that the Vikings, those renowned seafaring warriors of Scandinavia, were actually black. Who could forget Erik the Red, famously named for his fiery red hair, which must have been a total mix-up because red obviously means black in some ancient color wheel we're not privy to. And the Danes, Celts, Picts, and Saxons? Clearly, all the centuries of artistic depictions, sagas, and historical accounts got it wrong. It's fascinating how modern DNA analysis, which initially pointed to a predominantly Northern European ancestry with lighter skin tones, was also mistaken. And yes, those 400-plus burial mounds revealing individuals with dark hair must indeed be misinterpreted as evidence of black heritage rather than the more likely dark-haired Europeans. It's truly enlightening to learn that historical revisionism and selective reading of 19th-century sources, like Thomas William Shore's "Our Darker Forefathers," have unveiled the real truth hidden for millennia. Bravo for bringing this groundbreaking insight to light!

@Lvisredalin So red hair makes you white? I'm giving you white sources. Thomas William Shore, Dr. Boyd Dawkins, David MacRitchie, and many others. You are stating the lies that you learned from white supremacists. You have no real sources. Here is an example of white washing. Look up Agnes Dunbar she is the niece of the black king Robert the Bruce. Read her bio and look at the pics. The name Gorm means black, dark, or blue in Irish. The surname Nutt derived from the name Cnute. The surname Nutt means brown skin.

Has Leif been accurately cast in what he has so far done in the show? I think it's called fiction based on some real events.

@jaynorris3722 All it takes is one rotten producer with radical ideologies to spoil the whole set. I know my history very well. I burned through the entirety of the original Vikings seasons non-stop loving every bit of it but I flipped the switch the moment I saw that in season 1 Valhalla. I just can't with such a travesty.

Not just pissed, but shi-------ed on it too.

A 'certain tribe's' members wrote, directed and produced the show. What do you expect?

@@nathanmorgan3647 the woke tribe ,every decision on the characters is made above the writers and directors pay grade corporate pressure will make anyone fold to the wokeness if they want the funds to come

I was beyond disgusted.

Why would it? There were certainly black vikings in history.

Prove it.

@@Cognaxance Scientists and archaeologists already did prove it.

@@proverandom lol nope. All there could have been is possibly having slaves.

You’re right! It was almost there, but not.

I loved that game! I hear people often say that the people who critizise wont play the game or watch the movie anyway so why bother? The problem is that the publishers and those who provide the funding most often have a PR image they dont want to tarnish. Therefore people who dont matter can enormously empower their minority opinions in order to impose their will onto the masses with their social media presence. Its a sad state of affairs. Inclusion and diversity is an abomination if it is only used for tokenism. I find it shocking that especially shows and movies with enough worldbuilding or lore which could very well be the basis for new and exiting characters often resort to just ruin fan favorites or create plot massacres for the sake of virtue signaling.

Kurva

Simple. Cancel your netflix subscription and use a free streaming website like i do, as long as they are pushing this go woke garbage they can go broke for all i care.

WRONG. Hollywood doesn’t push it down your throats because they believe in equality and inclusion whatsoever. IS MARKETING. Please, stop the notion, that it is done altruistically, cuz it isn’t . Black storytellers are rising, and they know the power of Black people in how easily we set trends and so on. There’s a cultural component to black people, and lack of black stories makes the audience even more curious, because the overwhelm of yt narratives, is creating a disinterest. So, they’re doing all of this for themselves, and money. Their mission right now is to contain Black freelancers and storytelling companies from growing, because once it’s done, they will most definitely lose a big audience, and they can’t allow it. Lol. "The want to sell inclusion and diversity". Are you mad??? 💀🤦🏾‍♂️. These people only care about one thing, and that’s MONEY. We are a marketing tool, that’s it. Forget about your left and right divisions and political orientation, that’s not what they care about. They’re looking in the future, and acknowledge the risk of competition. An BLACK owned American movie company, has a certified audience in the entirety of Africa, in addition to that, they would surely be commissioned to tell African stories, and African movie makers and storytelling industry itself, would also have a global audience, automatically in the Americas and in Africa. Look at black sands entertainment for instance, they promote even indigenous stories in their company, not as a side story, but they put them under the spotlight, and it will tell these stories as the people want to have it, with no white saviourism. And that’s what they’re trying to prevent, is not about politics, is ECONOMICS. They have to trap our eyes in their contents. So, we really are sorry for the BS. I apologize on behalf of BLACK ppl, but we have our own stories to tell, and we are proud of them. The theatrics here will end eventually. WE DID NOT ASK FOR THIS.

I remember when Resident Evil 5 came out game journalists called it racist because all the zombies were black... Because the game takes place in Africa....

Yep, agreed! It's always, and ONLY black people in the name of "diversity." When they say "diverse cast" or "inclusive" or "people of color", they simply mean just shoehorning in blacks. I am not white, and I can see they never give any other races parts in "diversity." Apparently, we don't count enough to mark their checkbox. I say keep European folklore European. No need to shoehorn blacks in.

Exactly! it's not about diversity, it's about blackwashing.

I’m so triggered!….Where are the MEXICAN Vikings in the great hall feasting on tacos with tequila shots??!! 🙄😂🤣

@@Guazabara HAHA! it'd make as much sense as a Black female Viking Jarl., so why not! Viva Mexican Vikings!

@@Guazabara at least Mexicans are half European. If Antonio Banderas can play a Mexican then a Mexican can play a European.

And there were black vikings in history, so this is not changing it.

@@proverandom Not Jarl Haakon. That is a historical figure you can read up on. Not black. Or a woman.

@@Elidrys She isnt playing him tho? She is playing a completely fictional character that is based on jarl haakon.

@@proverandom so its a replacement, how exactly is that any better?

It's funny how all the white people are suddenly defending their history. Well it's a good thing. But do you know how badly your fore fathers had destroyed and rewritten black history? Anyways. It was cringe to watch, just as it's cringe to watch white ancient Egyptian pharaohs....

"i'm facing racism every day" oh come on... what kind of racism do you face? do you think you face more racism than an average black person in US, or not? This netflix series is pushing to far. Like this youtubers said, when they did the tradeoff between historical accuracy, immersion, and diversity, they did the tradeoff wrong. However, we still need to acknowledge that diverse representation in media is by itself a good factor (not a net conclusion).

Seriously man?? Get the fuck out of here maddone

@Bohan Xu Go pound sand, Sir!

Yes white live a lot of rascism right now , I got a bunch of friend that got told that the only reason they were not pick for a job , was because they weren't a minority , even if they were more qualified. It's really hard to work has a white man right now I feel like I'm stepping on eggs all the time. More , less ... I don't wanna compare we all have our struggle . It's easy to judge , just try to be understanding. thank you, hope you have a beautiful day 🌅

@@bluejay31 Yep and you get told you have to apologies for something you didn't do a lot of the time, sorry mate but I am not my ancestors.

Netflix is pure woke crap. They ALWAYS do the same, blackwashing historical characters and settings.

Even the first show was contrived nonsense, especially all the BS about Lagertha and her fantastical shield-maiden/jarl storyline.

@@RayoSombrio78and yet more people watch netflix than regular tv. i certainly don't watch crap cable or network tv

Except that they made Björn king of Norway when he was Swedens King Arthur..luckily not many swedes even know this so they can't even understand the disrespect...Im just certain that the English wouldn't like it very much if they made King Arthur a Scottish hero rather than an English one. Björn is listen as our very first king...the very first.. but no...make him norwegian..:(

@@derek96720 The shieldmaiden makes sense.They were rela.But jarls..no never. And also Björn was king of Sweden not norway.Of course no Norwegians ever mention this because why give up on those praises...

Yes We Are the Best of the Best (Blond, Black, Red, Brown, etc... Hair, Men also Beards, Blue, Green, Grey, etc... Eyes. We are Childrens of God! That is why our Enemies want to Destroy Us. Because we are most Powerfull and Beautifull! But Im Sure that We Win!

There are many inaccuracies in history in the movie.. but it seems it's the one that has to do with race that caught the eyes most..... If you truly care about accuracy of history then those would have given you more concerns

@@Ame_by_verb what do you think the b Video us about? He's literally commenting on the context of the video. Just shut up

WRONG. Hollywood doesn’t push it down your throats because they believe in equality and inclusion whatsoever. IS MARKETING. Please, stop the notion, that it is done altruistically, cuz it isn’t . Black storytellers are rising, and they know the power of Black people in how easily we set trends and so on. There’s a cultural component to black people, and lack of black stories makes the audience even more curious, because the overwhelm of yt narratives, is creating a disinterest. So, they’re doing all of this for themselves, and money. Their mission right now is to contain Black freelancers and storytelling companies from growing, because once it’s done, they will most definitely lose a big audience, and they can’t allow it. Lol. "The want to sell inclusion and diversity". Are you mad??? 💀🤦🏾‍♂️. These people only care about one thing, and that’s MONEY. We are a marketing tool, that’s it. Forget about your left and right divisions and political orientation, that’s not what they care about. They’re looking in the future, and acknowledge the risk of competition. An BLACK owned American movie company, has a certified audience in the entirety of Africa, in addition to that, they would surely be commissioned to tell African stories, and African movie makers and storytelling industry itself, would also have a global audience, automatically in the Americas and in Africa. Look at black sands entertainment for instance, they promote even indigenous stories in their company, not as a side story, but they put them under the spotlight, and it will tell these stories as the people want to have it, with no white saviourism. And that’s what they’re trying to prevent, is not about politics, is ECONOMICS. They have to trap our eyes in their contents. So, we really are sorry for the BS. I apologize on behalf of BLACK ppl, but we have our own stories to tell, and we are proud of them. The theatrics here will end eventually. WE DID NOT ASK FOR THIS.

@@Ame_by_verb Inaccuracies in timelines is always going to be an issue in these historical settings. Vikings, the last kingdom and many others suffer from it. The reason is a lot of major events happened many years apart i.e. battles and unification of lands etc but it makes some sense to condense it for entertainment purposes. Also, many writings from Viking sagas and Christian chronicles contradict one another in various ways mainly names and dates. So it does give *some* creative licence. But doing things that make no sense and were historically impossible are easier to catch the eye because its so drastically out of place. Forcing diversity and inclusion for the sake of it achieves nothing. The first images of black men are seen in 1431 in a tapestry called wild men and moors and even this is disputed as raiders in Germany used to cover their bodies in soil to raid at night. Also its not a movie...FYI.

Because the liberal definition of diversity is to replaced and remove White people from everything. DIVERSITY IS CODEWORD FOR WHITE GENOCIDE.

Can you elaborate on why Bridgerton was ok but this wasn't?

“Muhammad as a woman” you’d never see that. You know why? We’ve seen what happens if you merely draw Muhammad, so, whoever made that call would get fucking murdered.

mate stop it with your bullshit you westerners find every excuse to throw shade at muslims by attacking muhammad and their holy beliefs. Stop acting like you guys don't do that already.

@@donjon123 There is little to no redeeming qualities about Muhammad, he was a child molesting war mongering barbarian of the 6th century who played the victim while doing unspeakable things to people. It’s not like he was shy about it, it’s all over Islamic texts, the Hadith texts being the most eye opening about it. I’m not talking about that though, I’m talking about interpretations in media of any kind. Kurt Westergaard drew Muhammad once and he had an Orc chasing him around the house with a fucking ax because of it. He was put on a hit list, had 3-4 attempts on his life and was under constant police protection. While at it, embassies were attacked, organized riots ensued and people died. Because of a drawing. That’s why you won’t see Muhammad bastardized in that way.

@@alexman378 I don't even know where your from but I'm pretty sure wherever it is the idea your government could be calling anyone war mongering is rich. All he did was liberate idiots from their stupidity and the oppressed from their dictators

@@expat.elite.singles I’m from a country that used to be enslaved by your lot until we royally kicked their asses straight out of here. Then they tried to pull a genocide, which, sadly for them, didn’t end up working out. That’s what your Prophet taught them. Who the fuck are you trying to fool here, trying to paint that subanimal as some sort of liberating hero? They’ve since been threatening on a weekly basis to come back for more. Go whine to some white American liberal who will buy the horseshit you’ll sell them, Muslim, since I’m the wrong guy from the wrong country to try and pull a pity card on.

Seeking gender equality? You already have that. Women have had gender equality for a while now. This isn't the 50s-70s or before hand.

And an insult to Scandinavia as a whole. From Sweden by the way.

*J.R.R. Tolkien to Henry Resnick:* "Rhun is the Elvish word for ‘east.’ Asia, China, Japan, and all the things which people in the west regard as far away. And south of Harad is Africa, the hot countries." 😂 They shouldn't have changed Hobbits, Elves and Dwarves to being black-of-skin, when they have the Druedain of Armenelos (could have interpreted them due to the Rhun/Harad connection) or the Pygmies which Earendil (Elrond's father) encounters in southern Haradwaith in the Book of Lost Tales; even the bloodlines of Elros (Elrond's brother) who mate with the women of Harad to create a line of Earendil as like Gondor and Arnor, which means certain brown/black humans have the blood of Earendil ~ Tolkien based Middle-earth on Northwestern Europe (pre-Roman to be exact), however, there are non-Marachian/Hador (non-white) present within the Second Age of Endor (even the First Age) such as the descendants of the Druedain in Armenelos who travelled with the Edain to Numenor as a reward for fighting Morgoth; the Pygmies which Earendil (Elrond's father) encounters in southern Haradwaith in the Book of Lost Tales; those whom the Blue Wizards interacted with being sent by Manwe to Rhun and Harad; Numenorean expansionism within the inner-West, South and East; the foundation of Numenor's greatest settlement prior to Gondor: Umbar in Far-Harad; Khamul the Easterling before he's given one of the Nine Rings (becomes a Ringwraith); Aldarion's odyssey; Sauron's 500+ years in Rhun after the War of Wrath or the Numenorean bloodlines of Elros (Elrond's brother) who mated with the women of Harad after Eru's destruction of Numenor thus continuing the Numenorean bloodline in Harad for over three long-spanned generations -- the other two major settlements of Elros' kin were in Gondor and Arnor post ~ *How about featuring the descendants of the Easterlings of Bor - those of the First Age who lived in Beleriand amongst the Eldar and other Men - who are the oldest and most ancient men in the north of Eriador (the land that Tolkien based on England) ~* 😂

With Tolkien it's rather similar in some ways, since he has based his world on a medieval European setting, with dwarves and elves being inspired by European and Norse myths and folklore, as well as being described as "fair-skinned" (in the case of the elves), and there being no logical or historical reason why a dwarf would be dark-skinned, since they are mostly living underground. So I can understand why fans are taking issue with this as well. But the same fans did also talk about ways they COULD have involved diverse characters in the story, none of which SEEM to have been explored. But I guess we'll see. I agree though insofar as fantasy, most of the time, will allow for a certain flexiblity of interpretation, or at least more than an actual historical setting.

The thing that annoys me most is that people that support this shit will point to a random one-in-a-million historical example of a POC being a person of status in medieval Europe and use that as the basis for saying that Europe was actually always multi-racial.

The actress who portrayed Anne Boleyn was a British subject born and raised in Britain. She's British. The history of Britain belongs to her more than it belongs to some random American like yourself.

@@anthonyholton2886 cool, so you would have no problem casting a White British actor to play a famous black British person?

@@davidwinters8325 White actors have always been cast as Native Americans, Asians, and Arabs.

@@anthonyholton2886 so you wouldn't have a problem with it then?

​ So you're willing to accept historical inaccuracies in every thing but race? "Braveheart" was a fantasy. Did you post about that, too? In direct answer to your question, "Hamilton" was a success because it cast persons of color. Its OUR history, not just yours.

very simple, your idea costs more. that is why Hollywood is constantly trying reboots with a modern feel. its all about money in the end.

Thats a great idea, only problem to create something new it would require both dedication and imagination. Two things that I think are as rare as hen's teeth in Hollywood.

@@rickbeniers667 agreed…a cheap thrill is what it seems they go for more often than not. Skål

@@Pax_Pandamonium agreed…look at the trouble Ridley Scott went through to try and make The Last Duel as historically accurate as possible…he had to tell the story three times, from three perspectives, and people hated it. But it was a high quality production, and it told the tale as best as possible. Even when they do it right, they still get it wrong. (Although I did enjoy that movie)

Unfortunately the woke are a mostly talentless lot so they have usurp already established and popular IPs. There's been some attempts at original work but they're almost always unwatchable.

*Filipino.🙂

Ew no

We already have that, it's called the fate series and people eat it up like candy for some reason: king arthur and emperor nero are big tiddy blonde maids, attila the hun is a giantess fetish, etc.

Spot on! Its some white wanker thinking they are above everyone else making these decisions and all it does is piss everyone off. I'd love to see TV shows about African warriors from centuries back but without shoe horning a European looking person into the story just to add diversity to it. Vikings were and ARE of Northern European descent and I don't doubt that people from other regions ended up in Europe way before the horseshit of the slave trade but to cast them as historical figures just for the sake of it?!

Im glad I did not bother watching past the preview trailers. They destroyed the historical show potential and turned it into a joke like everything else today.

@@stormyjade2907 its just not the same as Vikings. Its just feels different, very different.

@@JAYAYE617 it’s not immersive is what you mean right because of how out of place everything is, like it doesn’t feel like the era, it’s like watching one of those civil war re-enactments where you see women as union or confederate soldiers.

@@meh...9500 It destroys verisimilitude.

@@OtherDAS smart man, had to search that word up its big boi word and you are correct lol.

That's cause Black Lives Matter lmao. I wonder how they'll do the Woman King - did they even do proper research into the history of the Dahomey. I doubt most African Americans would love to watch a movie about a kingdom who enslaved, butchered and sold African people to the west.

Actually, there's a lot of evidence to support Ethiopia, Egypt and Carthage crossing the Atlantic to the Americas waaaaay before slavery. Spanish explorers did describe some tribes as having black skin. Peruvian reed boats are just like Egyptian and east African styles. This idea that black people only left Africa by slavery is ridiculous. Now, I'm not for race swapping historical figures. But as someone who studies history, the ancient world was more integrated than we think. And complexion can change relatively quickly. Some tribes of Filipinos photographed just 100 years ago had black skin, asiatic eyes and kinky hair. Much like Australian aboriginals, which are a great example of migration. Some royal heraldry even suggests there may have been black kings in Europe as far as Germany prior to the Roman empire. Ancient Irish and Scottish accounts claim they traded with black sailors as well. So, the idea that slavery was the only way black people travelled is fading. But I agree, this type of stuff is ridiculous.

@@Mule-chezedek I dont care, we have tons of african folklore and different african warriors we can tell about. So it doesnt matter if we left before, after or during, who gives a shit. We need to tell our own damn stories and quit worrying about if we were part of others I dont give a damn.

@@mysticlegion8088 I totally agree with that too. Ethiopia has an amazing history. It's never been conquered by Rome or any European country. There's gotta be a movie or two somewhere in that history. I just mean, the ancient world was more integrated than we think. We tend to assume black folks have always been viewed as inferior and if they're anything but slaves in the presence of Europeans people start loosing their shit. But again, I don't agree with the race swapping because there is better black stories and historical figures out there.

@@Mule-chezedek I dont care what they think, we need to atop thinking about what they think in fact the whole reason i believe they do hollywood swapping BS is so that our history will stay suppressed. Our hiatory clearly shows we werent just slaves, so who cares We just need to demand to start seeing our own folklore, warriors and stories, stop giving our money to this mockery and give our money to those who do it right.

@@dukevalentino i suppose you have smallpox?

We know Shieldmaidens existed, though they didn't call them that, they were simply women who took up arms, Gudrun for example, but the term Shieldmaiden is mentioned only once in the sagas. But having rows and rows of them, all armed exactly the same way, was ridiculous in the Vikings show. Yes, have her fight, women did that, but not in regiments. There were women in the army of the Rus, but just as members of it, not entire battalions of them.

You made a good decision. Because by the end of the show it had become "Saint Lagertha" I got sick of her. The writer had an obsession with her.

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Woke douches are like this. For them, it's all about being with them or against them. They consider themselves to be morally superior. They have taken over all the media and kicked out people who didn't think like them.

You do know the viking culture was black? You do know Anne Boleyn and her daughter was black? It's your business to know your history

@@tommyjohnson6410 LOL GTH

Are you black?

The original Nobility of Europe were Melanated people. Research it yourself. His-story has been whitewashed.

@@copperdee3073 You have been brainwashed.

@@copperdee3073 Absolute nonsense.

@@copperdee3073 go back to school kid

Same as in Sweden. There are almost no Scandinavian men in TV commercial’s. If there is families portrayed, it’s always a blond woman and an African or Middle Eastern man.

And the irony is that as a European immigrant I’m very much the exotic where I live but these adverts are ridiculous- not only adverts but gen tv films erc

she is a Jarl of a non existing town Kattegat.

@@burkanarburky4447 I would have no problem with it if it wasn't so unrealistic...even as a fantasy version of Viking history, it's obviously just woke pandering...which sucks since the actress deserves better than being Netflix's latest click-bait.

Please whatever happens in America is not our issue...leave Africans alone

@@charmainej4820 I don't think you understand my point. I have nothing but respect for the many peoples of Africa. What I mentioned was just an example. It could involve an actual historical person from any time or place. I certainly wouldn't want to see my example happen, and I'm sure you wouldn't either. But this sort of thing is happening already in the TV and Motion Picture industry. And it's not a good thing.

@@kevviking6612 okay got it👌🏾

I'm thinking 90% of the people in this comment section are just not capable of handling TV shows or dramatizations. Maybe just stop watching TV and Movies and you will sleep better.

@@TangoNevada seems like the whole subject has passed you by. like wooosh.

@@johnnyskinwalker4095 No I get it. People that are Anti-Woke get mad when a black person is shown somewhere they think they don't belong. And the fact that it may not be 100% historically accurate makes you soooo mad you could cry. Nah, I get it. I just don't care that it bothers you.

@@TangoNevada You should go work in Hollywood, you would be in Heaven, working with your kind. Enjoying life with the precise goal of disregarding logic and pissing people off. Because that's what they are doing. It's all about the message, identity poltics. And Equity. It's not about telling good stories.

@@johnnyskinwalker4095 If that's how you feel, why do you watch anything Hollywood produces? Just so you can bitch about it? Either accept it's fiction and not documentaries or not. It's up to you. I have never heard anyone complain about John Wayne playing Genghis Khan. So your complaints seem extremely selective to black people playing traditionally white people. But the other way around is just acting.

How would they be rare, do you not know shit about the real origins of Norse mythology? How do you even know Vikings are European in nature, when Europe was ruled by Moors and the first brit was dark as fuck.

Funny cause its genetically and linguistically proven you 1st vikings are black. Tell science they made a mistake. U piece of shit recessive fuckers can't even handle scientific genetic and linguistic proof. Get over your recessive self. Our half breeds who burn in the life giving sun. You will be ok. Sentenced to death though just so you know. Ur asses are on our time ⏰ and its running out. The ones of us who know sit back and feed on your desperation and despair. But its been written. Its over 4 u. TRUST ME

Well..she accepted the role and probably she knew her presence wasn't logical there.