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Vintage Philips speakers, why I am hunting them so hard now 

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I previous reviewed the Philips 22rh497 and for a second hand price between 20 and 75 euro that speaker is together with the Technics SB 4500 among the best second hand speakers you can buy under 100 euro. In that previous video "The best second hand speaker under $100 / link: • The best second hand s... "I explained why this techncs SB4500 is such a bargain and good sound. The Philips 22rh497 is from the same quality but with a completely different sound. I now try to score it's bigger brother with 9 drivers the Philips 22rh499 One of the most sought speakers in Vintage land. Also in this video you see a very rare speaker from Kummer electronica, a dutch speaker company what operated in the 60's and already long forgotten. You see a unique speaker from Kummer electronica the U-10

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@willmorgan365
@willmorgan365 4 года назад
Excellent Andrew, you are the best.
@dxhighendamplifiers
@dxhighendamplifiers 4 года назад
Yes...branded HIFI INTERNATIONAL...they are awesome!
@oleo007
@oleo007 4 года назад
Great sound and suberb sounding.
@timmetjuh070
@timmetjuh070 4 года назад
Die Philips klinken ook gewoon geweldig goed. Al een aantal setjes gehad, altijd tevreden.
@halhagan3402
@halhagan3402 2 года назад
I was recently able to pick up a pair of 9-driver Philips Deforest home-built speakers - 1 x AD12100W8 woofer, 4xAD5060SQ8, 4xAD0160T8 Tweeters per cabinet. They're just over 1m tall, about .7m wide, about .3m deep. Unlike the RH499's that have (probably) the same drivers, these have the 4 Tweeters in a square configuration surrounding the woofer (which is located at the top of the baffle board), and the four midrange drivers are in a vertical line below the woofer in the center of the baffle board. Very clean and detailed, I have not driven them very hard, but they sound excellent on jazz, vocals, symphonic music. With the tweeters spread out around the woofer, I don't get a great feeling of instrument position in the sound field as one might get with one tweeter or tweeters in a vertical array. I'm in Canada, and the Philips Deforest drivers were sold a LOT out of one electronics parts company in Montreal where I used to live. My cost: $85 CDN, so a real steal (about 1.5x what ONE midrange can sell for). At some point I'm going to compare them to my oldest set of Deforest speakers, which have 1 x AD10100W8, 1 x AD5060SQ8 mid and 1 x AD0160T8 tweeter... I built those myself 45 years ago and still love them.
@warmygreenfields
@warmygreenfields 2 года назад
Retired Barry the Baptist deals with vintage audio, lol :)). Cool channel, man, thums up!
@brianlowther9030
@brianlowther9030 4 года назад
I like the old stuff too. They look good.
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom 4 года назад
I would RUN out, and buy the Kummer speakers ASAP!!!! They are amazing speakers, and at a very low price.. I have Isophon drivers, in my own speaker system Jealvox Sound Monitor and they are world class, and rare rare..
@deruebersau
@deruebersau 4 года назад
Do you have Kummer's? Would you compare them to the Lowther or Fostex?
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom 4 года назад
@@deruebersau I've had several Lowthers. I replaced Lowther with Fostex, because I blew all my Lowthers.. Play too loud I guess.. I now have giant Jealvox Sound Monitor horns, with Isophon woofer, and double tweeters- all units from the early seventies, in exellent condition.. This system sounds amazing, and imho way better than other speakers I've ever heard- To me, the Kummer's are real vintage Gold.. Like them or nor.. I would buy them, in a heartbeat.
@deruebersau
@deruebersau 4 года назад
@@TheBodhisattvaWisdom Blowing up Lowthers sounds like an expensive proposition! :-O
@BearsBlend
@BearsBlend 4 года назад
Nice video! My first speakers where audio professional ap50 beautiful Belgium speakers. My dad has them now but I still love them to death. I want to get my hands on a set but they are so rare....
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
some of these vintage speakers kill those new expensive speakers today in the shops
@BearsBlend
@BearsBlend 4 года назад
@@vintagestereo I have a new pair of monitor audio gold 200g5 speakers at home atm for review and they are really really good. Buuuuuut they are 2000+ EACH so they better be.... The thing is my mb quart 2000 and t+a t120 can compete. I believe speakers where as good now as they were then. I must admit I am a bit sad to see those gold go
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
@@BearsBlend mb quart 2000, I almost scored a set a few years ago. I asked the guy f he checked if the tweeters where still working and he promised me they did. After I drove 100km I discovered that both tweeters didn't work. I asked the guy to give me the speakers cheaper but he didn't want to lower his price. asshole's are everywhere
@darrylcombe2469
@darrylcombe2469 2 года назад
I have a pair. They are exceptional given their age.
@GMODISM
@GMODISM 2 года назад
I bought a pair of Philips 22rh427 today for Sek400 (maybe like 40 euro) I think it was a bargain, happy with the sound so far! I am considering to combine them with additional speakers from the series, what do you think about having 4 speakers or even 6 for a stereo system?
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 2 года назад
be aware that on most stereo amplifiers you can only spin 1 pair of 4 ohm speakers. Not sure what amplifier you have...you can spin 3 pait of 8 ohm speakers but watch out for 4 ohm speakers, a friend of me already blew up 2 times his sansui stereo amplifier because he was playing 4 speakers from 4 ohm at the same time.
@GMODISM
@GMODISM 2 года назад
@@vintagestereo Thanks for the reminder! I am waiting for my real amplifier so I just have this stand in Lepy class D amp for now, not sure what my future amps specs are, if I get it. But it is a quite rare Luxor prototype from the early 70s I believe, hope it can take several 4ohm speakers but perhaps I got to be satisfied with these only. But would it not be possible to add some kind of resistors to increase ohm if it's too little with double speakers?
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 2 года назад
@@GMODISM not sure about that
@allthegearnoidea6752
@allthegearnoidea6752 4 года назад
I think those are very cool!
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
massief wood and big but the question is how they sound
@allthegearnoidea6752
@allthegearnoidea6752 4 года назад
vintage stereo how they sound is important but if you take these into your home I think how they look must be important especially for the wife! I don’t really know anything about Hifi I like communication receivers but I have a quad 303 I am restoring. I know your much more expert then I but I made a video on amplifier damping factor you may find interesting ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JhuJs3def6U.html Thanks for sharing the video very interesting. Regards Chris
@Curi0u50ne
@Curi0u50ne 4 года назад
What transmission line speakers do you have there. If you get a good pair you put the sub woofer on eBay.
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
Je hebt helemaal gelijk, de meeste mensen weten niet wat philips speakers waard zijn en hoe ze klinken. Ik heb al veel verschillende philips speakers gehad en ze klonken allemaal erg goed, de 22ah489, 22ah495, 22ah463, 22ah467, 22rh457 en een set zelfbouwspeakers van philips met 12" bass speakers, en allemaal klonken ze geweldig, voor weinig geld!
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
De 22ah489 is zeker de moeite waard om ook een keer te beluisteren. Volgens velen de beste uit de ah serie, dus niet de rh serie.
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
@@christiaanstaps8336 nu weet ik iets meer, heb me nooit verdiept in philips speakers
@Resorob
@Resorob 3 года назад
Hi Andrew, the guy advertising with the B&W 802's is a joker, I found the same speakers on "Marktplaats" last year. Asking price 1700,00 EUR same speakers without the amps though, I sent him a message that I was willing to come and collect the speakers, no reaction and after a few days the ad was gone. I have to admit that it felt nice thinking I purchased a pair of 802's for only 1700,00 Euro's :-)
@wielentschoten575
@wielentschoten575 2 года назад
Philips motional feedback speakers floorstanders. Like the sound.
@EastAngliaUK
@EastAngliaUK 4 года назад
I have won an Onkyo TX-NR609 on facebook for only £65 going to get this soon its much better than the other Onkyo HT-RC370 I sold. he wanted £80 for it.
@Frontoviki
@Frontoviki 3 года назад
Are theese good ? : Philips 22ah/494
@liquidamber
@liquidamber 4 года назад
i have them and the s75 from b o ...the sound is nice
@vicg5323
@vicg5323 4 года назад
yeah, I dreamt of them too. LOL.
@tab_use
@tab_use 4 года назад
Yeah classic phillips tech
@shaunonverwacht9626
@shaunonverwacht9626 4 года назад
I like those Philips speakers with the "Hi Fi/High Fidelity International" badge. Also, the Philips motional feedback (MFB) speakers that I've heard were surprisingly good. Some Sansui loudspeaker models sold here in South Africa ca. 1980s used Philips drivers. I don't know if that is a local phenomenon or if it's the same for international models. Good luck with your search; one of our local DIYers was recently restoring that model or similar.
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
The philips MFB models have a built in amplifier and they are very good but I don't want speakers with a built in amplifier. Philips was the biggest electronica brand in the world those days, many companies in those days used philips parts.
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
You are from south Africa? I am a follower of your fellow countryman serpentza. He moved 14 years ago to China and because of him I have a good idea how china is. The guy is honest and he tells the good things but also the bad things about china. Great channel: serpentza
@shaunonverwacht9626
@shaunonverwacht9626 4 года назад
@@vintagestereo I am a follower of him, too!
@shaunonverwacht9626
@shaunonverwacht9626 4 года назад
@@vintagestereo I was surprised to find Dutch parts in a Japanese brand. I believe this was unusual for the time.
@TMac473
@TMac473 4 года назад
Shaun Onverwacht MFB 587’s absolutely stunned me. Anything in that line needs a lot of recapping but they’re well worth it!
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
Als je ooit de Philips 22ah467 tegen komt, voor weinig geld ( ik had ze gevonden voor 20 euro ), dan moet je ze zeker eens proberen. Echt een absurd goed geluid, beter zelfs dan van de 495. En wat een power dat er uit die kleine speakers komt! Ze hebben een 8" passieve radiator en een 8" woofer. Niet de 468, want die heeft lampen en het filter en ondanks het dubbele vermogen klinken ze een stuk slechter. Ook de 457, een stukje ouder, heb ik ooit voor 25 euro gevonden, en die klonken ook echt goed! Maar het nadeel was dat die al zo oud waren dat er een hoop moest gebeuren, de lijm van de woofers begon op verschillende plekken te barsten, dus de spider kwam los van de speaker zelf. Succes met je zoektocht! de 499 heb ik ook een tijd naar gezocht, maar die kwamen boven mijn budget uit. Ik heb sinds gisteren een setje BNS Soundcolumn III speakers. Die klinken zelfs een beetje beter dan de Infinity speakers. De bass is een stuk strakker, en je hoort veel meer details. De Infinity's konden natuurlijk een stuk harder, en de bass van de infinity's is veel zwaarder natuurlijk, maar die klinkt gewoon heel anders. Ik ga de infinity's natuurlijk niet wegdoen, want daar ga ik spijt van krijgen.
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
"Succes met je zoektocht" had aan het einde gemoeten haha, nu staat het per ongeluk midden in mijn verhaaltje.
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
Ik kan eigenlijk niet zeggen dat de BNS speakers beter klinken, ze klinken gewoon heel anders
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
@@christiaanstaps8336 je moet die infity zeker niet wegdoen
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
@@vintagestereo nee die blijven absoluut!
@Kadano
@Kadano 3 года назад
Man, I got two pairs of 457 for 90€ each and I thought that was a great price for how well they perform. You people in the Netherlands are blessed, being able to get them for just 25€.
@christiaanstaps8336
@christiaanstaps8336 4 года назад
Marije Steenbergen ken ik ook, ik heb ooit bijna een set bose 205 speakers van hem gekocht, maar toen kwam ik er achter dat bose speakers niet goed zijn. Dat was een jaartje of 2/3 geleden. Door hem heb ik de BNS Soundcolumn III speakers gekocht. Als je bij de video's van Marije Steenbergen kijkt kom je ook veel reacties van mij tegen onder een aantal van zijn video's.
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
ik wist niet dat hij een kanaal had
@frank20177
@frank20177 4 года назад
Morgen ga ik me philips 495 ophalen its my dream speakers
@mertcevreli4065
@mertcevreli4065 4 года назад
Good night. İ advice to you İf you find 22 AH 467 22 AH 468 22 RH 427
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
thx
@Jannetjemannetje
@Jannetjemannetje 4 года назад
Highest bod on the Kummers is now 250,-
@ashlynholme1402
@ashlynholme1402 3 года назад
Have these speakers with 9 driver
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 3 года назад
wow, you are very lucky...what about the sound
@sordini6950
@sordini6950 4 года назад
2 hours...so what' come on man. get bust
@S_Rizvi
@S_Rizvi 4 года назад
Kummer looks ugly...they might sound ugly 🤔.
@vintagestereo
@vintagestereo 4 года назад
massive teac wood!
@deruebersau
@deruebersau 4 года назад
@@vintagestereo It can be argued that the uglier a component is; the better it sounds. WAF. Opposite of how things work in aerospace
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