Twoi rodzice z pewnoscia sluchali tez pocztowek dzwiekowych, ktore tloczylem. Praca w Polskich Nagraniach byla tylko dodatkiem przy tloczeniu LP ABBY. Na codzien pracowalem w dziale nagran na Srebrnej 16 w budynku na miejscu ktorego Jarek chcial stawiac 2 wieze. Tam tloczylismy pocztowki dzwiekowe. Budynek dalej stoi a drukarni i nagran nie ma. Piekne to byly czasy i zarobki bardzo dobre.
When you see an artist has been awarded a silver or gold disc, it is these metal press masters that they receive. Press masters are made from gold alloy when an album needs to have its release extended due to high sales. Hence why they are awarded for higher sales. Same goes for platinum discs too.
I forget where, but a guy here on YT actually played one of the award records. Don't remember if it was platinum or gold, but the music that it played wasn't even close to the artist that received the record. I think it was a rock album, but the actual music was some kind of rap or R&B. I thought that was pretty funny too.
@@robertschemonia5617It's because these have more a symbolic nature than anything else. No one would want to play them. At least not the one who receives it because he got the digital studio master.
@@jonasklose6472 it’s literally just because they’re cheap, whether or not someone would want to play them is irrelevant to the actual thing. as it is they just throw random junk records they have lying around and plate them gold, which makes it become as shallow a gesture as it seems.
@@anthonymorales842 Anything that can't be discerned by the human eye without a microscope. The bumps on the inside are microscopic, as the track is only ~80 microns wide.
@@nsfpeace3442 it's really unlikely to come of if it's pressed into the material rather than glued on after. Most records, as far as I know, are produced in this way.
@@nsfpeace3442 Generally cheap fragile, crummy pressings have an adhered label vs. a pressed label. The pressed label becomes part of the pressing. This type lasts longer and is less likely to come off or be lifted from the edge; as the edge is embedded in the pressing.
Records made from the cheaper material styrene (material commonly used in model kits) had glued labels, they weren’t too common as they weren’t as durable. Mostly used for 7 inch singles
I have a tizer advert from a magazine when I was a kid it's about as thick and strong as a playing card but pop it on and it still plays lol. Love records
@monotheis6889 see if you remember the little car I have that came with one , it has a needle on the bottom and a small speaker . you put it on top of the record and it drives round from start to Finnish playing the record en route. Ruins ur record like but sick for the 70s
Yeah, it's hard to beat a well-pressed and clean vinyl record for sound quality too. Digital can only sample so much (and if you tried to sample more, the file size would exponentially increase) whereas vinyl allows you to have literal molecular detail
Well, it's not compared to the info that was actually there in the first place and what could be easily put into digital form with 2-3 magnitudes higher accuracy. Or it is, compared to how bad human hearing is. (Oh something triggered my old fragile signal processing engineer's heart...a pitiful display...I know)
I still can't figure out how they get all those different sounds to imprint on one small track of metal or vinyl depending if it's the master or not. It's a little groove that a fucking needle drags against then produces drums, guitar, bass, vocals, and anything else you can imagine!! It's pretty fucking amazing!
@@KMAK88 I just don't understand how they take vocals or anything really then somehow figure out the exact grooves to put in vinyl to replicate the exact sound. I'll have to look into it later tonight. It's bugging me again.
@@RegurgiNate84 They don't figure out the exact grooves, the stylus is responding to the sound and cutting the grooves in first part. There is nothing to figure out in terms of the grooves. The grooves are just how the stylus was vibrating. You don't even have to have grooves, you can have a series of bumps. The grooves are a by-product of the vibrating stylus.
@@Timoffejj___RU я внимательно пересмотрел глазами изо всех сил этот ролик несколько раз, и хочу отметить что пластинчатось пластинок недостаточно пластинчатая
@@infowox, Ну вы же понимаете, что вы смотрите фильм, а не процесс в "натуре", так сказать. В фильме может быть масса погрешностей, неудачных ракурсов, кривые руки оператора, дурная голова бухого монтажëра, неправильные соотношения сторон кадра, искажения форм, размеров, пропорций и пластинчатости этих пластинок, и т.п. Оптический обман тоже надо учитывать, дорогой товарисч.
I actually started working in a record making company in toronto about a month ago. The first half of this video is usually handled by a seperate department in the same company. The process is called "electroplating". They essentially make stampers with the required audio files . The second half is where machine operators install the mentioned stampers into their machines and press hot pvc plastic pucks into them to create the record. The last machine you see is just a trimmer.
Didyou see how they recored on the first Vinyl ? The whole band was sitting in a room playing into a tube while the needle carved the waves. That's so amazing.
То есть, картриджевые картриджи и флешевые флешки можно не ждать, продолжая читать книжные книжки и журнальные журналы, изредка перемежая их учебными учебниками и брошуристыми брошюрами? Тогда может хотя бы перфокартные перфокарты и дискетные дискеты станут производить быстрее, чем SSDшные HDD и HDDшные SSD?
Ich kann mich erinnern, dass ich Märchenbücher von Disney im Format A3 geschenkt bekam und hinten drin befand sich eine Schallplatte. Sie war kleiner als die normale, aber etwas größer als eine Single mit dem kompletten Märchen bespielt. Das war ungefähr 1967/68
That metal record is what's called a "dub plate" or acetate... an exciting part of dj culture was seeing a "dub" get dropped because you knew it was a new track that hasn't been heard yet. These plates were pressed in extremely limited quantities (most often only 1) to be able to see the crowds response to the new track before mass producing on vinyl.
Я правильно понимаю. Они записали мелодию на мягкий материал потом обработали, покрыли металлом так получилось клише для музыки и только потом давят пластик который покрывает поверхность и на ней отпечатываеться медодия.
@@user-no8qv3fh1m , им нравятся посторонние шумы. А так надо давно уже признать, что механический съем информации плохой метод. В цифре всё хорошо сохраняется, если конечно не мп3.
Нихрена, они цифровым прибором делают запись на аналоге. В идеале должна быть аналоговая запись на аналоговый носитель. Они тупо mp3 с компа пишут на винил. Это даже и близко не соответствует старому способу.
Fun fact: the texture is actually what makes records make sound. As the stick goes over the record, it vibrates to replicate the song it’s supposed to play. In reality, it’s very quiet, and the volume amplifies the sound. Weird, right?
Бывают, но их производят на другой фабрике. На этой фабрике производят только пластинчатые, узкая специализация. Просто рынок жёстко поделен, каждый производится свой вид пластинок, кто то пластинчатые, иные сферические, другие кубические пластинки.
@@Specter690655 Миньоны назывались. А ещё на курортах, в том числе и у нас, в Пятигорске, можно было записать звуковую открытку. Я как то посылал такую своей двоюродной сестре, в Москву.
Watch the full video (link in the pinned response), this is just an excerpt, the whole process is even more involved and has like fifteen more high-precision steps.
Yes. But I sometimes think recipes are the greatest creation of mankind. Put good wine, good food and good music together and you're living like a king.
Well the answer is that they don't have anywhere near perfect sound. For comparison, the precision of a CD (16 bits) is roughly equivalent to a vinyl being pressed to the precision of individual atoms. I am not joking.
CD's are amazing engineering too. The multiple layers and the precise engineering required are incredible. No comment regarding streaming - I prefer physical media for my aural pleasure.
@@lunsmannpeople paying $400 for airpod max gonna laugh at you tho 🤣 nowadays it's like people want what fast, convenient, trending, instagrammable, and something along that line. poor them but it's not like we can change their mind lol
@@yjas8904 - each to their own and all that. I understand why young people prefer the digital formats - portability in particular. In my country, Australia, where rental properties are extremely expensive and insecure (6 month leases) people need to live "light". Large Hifi systems and media collections are not compatible. I'm older (57) and own my house outright (mortgage paid off and discharged), I don't need to move house twice a year etc, so living "large or heavy" fits my life style and music media preference. Heck, my gaming PC has a 43 inch display. I use my phone for talking and texting. Thats it, just talking and texting. 🤓🧐
After looking at this process I don't see why they should be more expensive than plastic plates. My dad worked in the PET bottle business and the process is pretty much the same.
The positives wear out faster and need to be replaced. If a plate mould gets a scratch it's no big deal, if a record positive gets damaged it's useless.
@@daitedve1984не сильно сложнее, такая же штамповка пластика в матрицу, просто потом одна из сторон покрывается отражающим слоем и наносится "этикетка" сверху
I mean you don't really. They sound fine the only real reason people like them over other storage mediums is cause of nostalgia or they're lying to themselves.
@@batt3ryac1d I don't think they mean quality of music, I think they mean that music in general is wonderful and that it is being played through a pvc disk with grooves makes it more "wonderful." I could be wrong
I don't understand. When I ask people why they are buying vinyl discs, the answer is they think the sound from vinyl discs is continuous sound, not like the sound from mp3 or even lossless file, and it sounds better. But as far as I know, they record the sound to the vinyl disc by an audio file, so the vinyl disc will have the sound quality as good as the audio file only. Did I misunderstand something?
I'm willing to bet that the sound file they use is of a much higher quality than anything that is readily available to the public. That's just a guess, though. I don't have any inside information.
Тем, кто затирает, что это "живой звук" записанный на винил и не содержит "цифровых" искажений, хочу сказать что всë это дело записывалось цифровым микрофоном с аналого-цифровым преобразователем на компьютер, ещё и несколько раз копировалось, пока не дошло на флешку которую загрузили в аппарат, который нарезает дорожки (аудиофила). Тут никаким мифическим "чистым" звучанием и не пахнет. Реально аналоговый метод записи на винил при помощи механического усилителя и иглы для создания первой ААА металлической пластинки реально нигде не применяют, потому что это стоит космических денег, а сама технология морально устарела.
Чел, хочешь прикол. Я не знаю какие там отзвуки слышат на виниле люди покупающие провода за сотни тысяч. Но я имею коллекцию винила, бабинный магнитофон, сд плеер, кассетный плеер и подписку на Яндекс плюс. Плюсом я умею пользоваться торрентом. Я тебе скажу так, в разный период времени группы записывали свои хиты и они адаптировали их под определённый носитель. То есть музыку писали и сводили специально под минусы и плюсы насителя. Поэтому когда ты можешь сравнить одну и ту же песню, в отличном качестве на разных носителях, ты тогда и понимаешь в чем смак аудиофилии. Ни когда и ни на чем битлз не будет звучать лучше чем на виниле, Луи Армстронг на катушках, Раммштайн на сд, сектор Газа на кассете а тот же скриликс в цифре. Подбирая битрейт, форматы и остальную лабуду, ты всё больше понимаешь что звук каждой струны звучал именно так, что бы хорошо звучать именно на этом.
This is basically the same process that used to be used to make CDs. The machines are a lot cleaner but this is pretty much what it looks like in the old "how it's made" films from the 1940s and 1950s. The reason there is a master, then a copy, then a secondary copy, is that the printing process wears out the grooves so you need to replace the secondary copy a lot.
First they take the dingle bop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches. They take the dingle bop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It's important that the fleeb is rubbed, becasue the fleeb has all the fleeb juice. Then, a schlami shows up, and he rubs it and spits on it. They cut the fleeb. There's several hizzards in the way. The blamfs rub against the chumbles, and the plubis, and grumbo are shaved away. That leaves you with... a regular old vinyl.
i work as a mastering engineer . We cut on DMMs but for big stereo lacquer discs are better in my opinion. On DMM you can cut around 70 microns at depth but lacuers can take even 100-110 microns which is way better for good stereo . For DMM you need expensive diamond stylus for lacuer sapphire :)
I think I saw a video saying the indie music industry still produces turntable music records because if the artist with grand dreams fail to sell their music, the music distributor can melt down the unsold records and recast them for a new artist with grand aspirations.
la cosa più eccezionale è che i VINILI erano dati per morti e sepolti 30 anni fa. Oggi ad aprile 2021 hanno superato la produzione dei CD e continuano a guadagnare mercato.
OK no joke I was legit thinking about how vinyl records were made two days ago and I never searched it once and now I come across this shit fucking freaking out here man.
The thing that all these audiophiles don’t know is the vinyl is made using a digital file and digital equipment lol. Digital has been better for long time now anyway.
People used to walk on the moon when earthlings listened to Vinyl records. Nowadays everything they send to the moon tips over and falls flat on the ground.
in short: they etch a master disk, but now must make a "negative" of that disk, which will then be used to press the liquid vinyl and mold in all the grooves. then the excess on the edge is trimmed off.
Fascinating. I still think Vinyl played through a VALVE amplifier and a decent speaker system is totally better than any of the advanced "electronic systems used today.
"Better" is subjective. A better experience in your opinion? Sure. Better in terms of quality? Not even close, no. Modern solid state electronics put vacuum tubes to shame by a longshot. Many audiophiles will make a claim this, and then set up their system with improperly-placed speakers in an untreated room.
