Violence in the Bible with Prof John J. Collins of Yale Divinity School 

*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:15 - Background of the Guest 0:33 - Topic of the discussion 1:04 - Mentions of Violence in the Bible 3:58 - Reasons for the presence of violent verses in the Bible 8:45 - Reconciliation of biblical verses about the extermination of communities with modern ethics 10:52 - Peace promoting Verses in the Bible 11:59 - Jesus' 2nd coming being in line with the Divinely Sanctioned violence in the Bible 15:19 - Jesus not being a Pacifist 18:23 - Jesus using language of Self Violence 21:16 - Biblical Ethics of Warfare 23:52 - Amalekites' extermination narrative in the Bible being used to carry out violence today 28:12 - Using the Bible to otherise & attack certain people in the modern times 30:37 - God's Love being conditional in the Bible 37:15 - Christian Dilemma of Jesus preaching peace while relying on God to carry out the violence 40:21 - Clarifying the Paradoxical narratives in the "God-breathed" scripture 42:13 - Guests' Lecture on Violence in the Bible & its History, Analysis & Impact 47:24 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️🤍❤️ Very Informative Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻

Great scholar Paul, John J. Collins is a legend! I really enjoyed this episode.

I appreciate the professor's intellectual honesty. Paul, I salute you for the amazing content your providing to the public. I truly enjoy the way you engage with your guests. it's very non confrontational and unassuming but incredibly incisive. I feel like I'm earning a graduate certificate in Theology and Religious philosophy by listening to your episodes. JazaAllah khair🙂

Subhanallah. Paul is a gift to the Ummah. May Allah bless you and protect you and grant jannatul firdaus. Ameen I listen to your discussions to learn even though I cannot even call myself a student of knowledge. Alhamdulillah for your efforts, people like me can learn a little more.

I have learnt so much from your discussions brother Paul, amazing person..a true believer. Peace be with you!🦩

Thank you Paul for mentioning Palestine.

Another very thought-provoking talk. I'm so very glad that I decided to subscribe. The profound contradiction is exposed. On one hand, if the Bible is to be used analogously, it shouldn't be used at all. On the other hand, analogously is how it must be used. Thank you.

Subhan Allah. Imagine saying "God doesn't have it all together?" These are the types of conclusions the Old Testament and the New Testament forces people to adopt. Alhamdulilah for Islam.

Alhamdulilah. Brother Paul gives very good schooling about their bibles teachings to all Christians to understand what Jesus said and must follow. Christians only following their delusional church teaching. That why Jesus called them anti christ.

I'm impressed by both gentlemens' libraries. I jusr have library wall paper. 😢

Brilliant 👍🏼 Love the Professor too for his very deep knowledge and insight.

Wow, first thanks to both of you. You've given me food for thought for at least a month. There are some perspectives I had never considered about "Biblical violence".👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 👍🏽😘

Another great show, Paul!

A great scholar and a wise man who sheds light on human impulses that have shaped the writings of the Bible & influence it's interpretation.

I love this man, oh Allah, and I ask you to bring us together in your mercy and pleasure within the blessed abode

a sensitive subject and Paul conducted the discussion very smartly, at times got pretty tricky. Thank you very much for making us part of such discussions for free :)

Thank you Mr. Williams. As usual, excellent hand-picked subjects, and scholars of deep knowledge. If I can judge, Prof. Collins is a high caliber one. Regrettably, he did the fatal mistake some religious scholars do: getting into politics. I feel sorry for them.

Love this channel!!

I love his intros, radio voice

Stay strong brothers

Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johannesburg pray 5 times a day

This was a much needed topic. Thank you uncle Paul 🙌💯

The problem with saying that there are times when violence is justified, or that certain situations calls for violence, is a simple one : who decides, and on what basis ? Violence is a powerful and destructive force, and in my experience, judgment about when to apply violence is usually poor.

I really have no idea how Christians have the audacity to bring up this violence argument against the Qur'an and Islam in general.... It truly baffles me

This gentleman should do audio books his voice would be very good for them.

“Jesus was not without zeal,” Subhanallah. (Peace be upon him). What a tough interview-May we all live in a conscientious society and world). Thank you for this tough/thoughtful discussion, Brothers. Ameen “The Amelekites we’re targeted for extermination.” (So true-and the contemporary application is indeed against the Benevolent, Merciful God Almighty). Quranic wisdom: Sura the Israelites: “Make not your hand tied like a miser’s…;Your Lord provides sustenance in abundance for whom He pleases..He provides in just measure; Do not kill your children for fear of want. We will provide sustenance..verily the killing of them is a great sin; nor come near to adultery, for it is a shameful deed and an evil, opening the road to other evils; Nor take life-which Allah has made SACRED-except for just cause; come not near to the orphan’s property except to improve it; Give full measure..weigh with a balance that is straight; and do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge; nor walk on the earth with insolence: for you cannot rend the earth asunder, nor reach the mountains in height.” Alhumdullilah

Important but not well known topic. Christians normally don't like to talk about it

A long-overdue and relevant discussion. Great points and questions Paul. The professor makes a very valid point at 17:50.

Thank y ou Paul for an excellent work.

Well presented. Thanks.

Very informative discussion.

Mash Allah good job well done brother brother may Allah Increase your knowledge.

Well done brother... Appreciate it ❤❤

Your work on great topic is great.

thanks you both < جزاك الله خيرا

This was very interesting indeed and the professor seems very genuine and knowledgeable. A great spirit to this discussion and I for one would be delighted to hear him again on BT inshAllah

Throughout the year's, some took books out the Bible, forged the Bible, & mistranslated the Bible. But, Bible is, the word of our ETERNAL PARENT'S.

This is one of the most important RU-vid channels. You've created something special here Paul. Got me even more interested in reading about christianity instead of being more ignorant about it. May Allah bless you with the strength and years to do this really important work, may He keep you firm in your faith, and may He make you from the inheritors of jannatul firdaus. Allahumma Amiin. Your brother in Kenya.

Amazing content as always Brother Paul.. Jzk khayr This channel has an inspirational way of educating the Ummah *thumbs up*

It simply beggars belief that this externalization of evil is still with us - i.e that all evil resides in the other, and once we exterminate the other, then we can progress towards some kind of paradise. This is Tribalism 101. Until we recognize and deal with our own individual capacity for evil, we won't go anywhere. I cannot think of one episode in history where this kind of mass extermination of the other has achieved anything except more misery.

Vengeance belongs to God. Our vocation is to love.

A double whammy! What the heck Paul, insane

The worst things in the world are justified by belief.

thanks

I'm glad you mentioned in the opening of the video that these events are not historical. These are very horrifying and inconsistent with the revelations. Qura'an supports responding to violence with violence, but the wording is more careful and humane rather than animalistic. Besides according to Hadith, none of the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad (may Allah grant them peace) was allowed to take the booty of war. They simply were commanded to burn the booty as an offering to God -- to Allah.

Thank you Paul for another brilliant video. Can you please do a video with Shaykh Hamza Yusuf (formerly Mark Henson)? Zazak Allah Khair.

The guest said “There are some things we should have zero tolerance for… “. It’s yourGods book mate. There are no ifs and buts about it. Allhumdullah for Islam.

Great job brother paul

Tough Luv 😇 Henderson People have problems with truth must live a lie right

Jesus 'the kill or embrace Christianity' prophecy in John 16.08. “And when he comes, he will convict or convince the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of day of judgement.” (John 16.8 Van Dyke)

Assalam walikum Paul, I would like you to put some light on the incident when Maryam a s (Mary) came to Jerusalem with a baby. In Jewish tradition if you has a child without marring that means she has committed adultery which will lead to death penalty as per Jewish law of that time, but why Jewish society didn't persecuted and prosecuted her??? What was the reason people believed to her claim that child was born to a virgin, what was the reason Jewish law didn't persecute her of adultery?? Because Quran claims in surah maryam that the baby spoke to people which might be the reason the people believed her.

This is excruciating. He's intellectually honest but something about his arguments feel spiritually empty.

nice

Realize also that non believers use the same understanding but pervert it for themselves That’s the devil in the garden, that’s the devil doctrine That’s been going on since the fall

Please brother Paul, can you the interview this man again in light of what is happening in Gaza? Inshaa Allah

Because of the mark simply

Paul, when will you talk about violence and immoral things in Hadith and Fiqh books.

It is Judaism as in the bible Genesis 1: 27 that says: 'G-D created man in His own image'. This in its simplicity laid the foundation for Christianity's making G-D in the image of a man. Isn't that not evil? A man-G-D is a pagan and Hellenistic concept of the godhead.

Can anyone please tell me where can I get ALL arguments against Islam and answers to them .. all in one website/pdf/ RU-vid playlist

I have a request, call it a suggestion. could you ( with a appropriate guest) explore the history of the tribes of israel and the region, after the death of king Soloman PBUH. I read it once 10 years ago joining all the dots together. i was shocked. majority of people dont know it , hardly discuss it. Most think Jews are isrealites. Jews are mostly Judians. Please Explore The split between judaians and other tribes of israel ( i.e. juda and actual leftover Kingdom israel, which is refered to as the northern kingdom by Jew/judaians writers, the kingdom of the lost tribes before they were 'lost', ). King solomon's son charactor (jewish writers refered to him as a imbecile , despot, womaniser, 20wives 60 concubines, his qoute that if my father whipped you, i will have you bitten by scopians, to the tribal chiefs. ) . wars between kingdom of Juda and Northern kingdom ( kingdom of israel). Alliance between juda and assyrian superpower. idols of baal (assyrian god) being installed in the jerusalem temple by the then Judaian king ( with his assyrian wife). Kingdom of Israel with kingdom of Damascus threatening kingdom of Juda. Assyrians then attacking and wipping out Kingdom of Israel and kingdom of Damascus, saving Juda. Assyrians walking off the enslaved survivers to other parts of their empire. Assyrian then exterminating the Phistine on the other side of Juda. finally the babylonian uprising againt ther assyrians rulers and overthrow etc ........ i have only heard people just speak on specific events never explore the full picture.

Hey

20.30.....Reza Aslan

A knowledgeable fool with his eyes wide shut, with his heart cemented and with his intellect in complete denial of the ultimate truth. Truly Allah grant His guidance to whom He wills or He keeps him lost in the maze of insisting ignorance. May Allah guide us all. Aameen.

Very interesting program. “ kill and get killed - that is in the Torah, the gospel and in The Qur’an . “ - The Qur’an. But hard for me to digest the paradoxical hand written part of the former books and exercise of that will not originate anything for sure except shedding of blood and damages only. “ Feeble indeed alike are the seeker and the sought ! They measure not God with His true measure ; Surely God is All - strong, All- mighty .” The Qur’an- 22 : 72-73

And all they are saying is that Islam is not peaceful religion.

I very much admire John Collins, owning a lot of his books. However, I think he sometimes waffles about biblical violence in this interview. I personally am a non-consistent follower of non-violence. I do support Ukraine in its revolt against the military might of Russia. But military defense should be the absolute last resort for countries violently assaulted by superior forces. We must do everything possible to avert such bloodshed. I did come out of this admiring the interviewer and will subscribe to see what he has to offer. Bottom line, the issue for me is the character of God. A god who can commission genocide(s), even thousands of years ago, remains problematic to me. How could a God of love act like that, violently ravaging little babies and infants? Going back to ancient history doesn't change that.

please see the divinity of christ is what the christians rest their religion on otherwise they would be similar to islam with a similar law structure and though other issues exist as well such as the son of god issue and vicarious atonement but it is calling jesus god that draws them away from us in islam and here i will discuss some of the teachings of christ that negates that concept they have in the christian faith so that you may be sure that jesus himself never claimed divinity and his teachings in the gospels are that he believed in the one true god yahweh there please see john 17 where he negates he is god and addresses his creator with the words ‘only true god’ and this verse should be enough but in luke and matthews he tells the devil that one should worship the one god and it is clear that he made it clear to his follower that he was not divine and it is only innuendo and conjecture you take when you say he is god to you who is jesus while if you are a true follower of him you will not say these words and if he performed miracles he performed them through the permission of yahweh as the quran says and it is not unusual for a prophet to perform them and prophet muhammad and moses had their share of miracles and their followers do not call them god or worship them please see jesus was a jew and would pray the shema yisrael several times a day and that was his creed and it is obvious a fallacy you do when you say that he believed in himself as divine please see in the council of nicaea they called jesus as the same substance as his father and they called him son but these are the teachings of paul on you and he who is jesus negated that when he said in the gospel of john to the jews that you say ‘thou blasphemest’ while i am sanctified and that is what a son of god is as it was blasphemy to them to call himself son of god in the begotten sense he thereby indicated that his works were those of a prophet please see also he referred to himself repeatedly as son of man or bar enosh indicating that the son of god was a simple human and he had an earthly father and son of god is a well known metaphor for them for prophet of him who is yahweh so there you have it he was not guilty of blasphemy according to allah in the quran and he stands vindicated by him and the words of the quran do say that he was a witness over them while he was with them but after allah caused him to die then he was a watcher over them please see nearly all christians say that you cannot understand trinity as that the son and the holy spirit and the father is one god but they say in the next life you will be able to comprehend that concept but this is conjecture they say and they only say it because it is incomprehensible here and the quran and the tanakh are easy to understand that there is one god and he taught men who were prophets to reform mankind and teach him about himself that he is one god and that they must serve and worship him alone please know jesus did that and as the quran says he was not guilty of saying he was god along with him who is the father and you must realize that jesus and the spirit had a separate conscious mind from the father so how can you say all three are one god and if it does not enter your comprehension now it is implausible that it is true and will be comprehensible at a future date and there is much conjecture in christianity currently as they seek to aggrandize him who is jesus to them and call him divine while he was simply a man who had all the characteristics of a man and you just say he is god while he never said it please see the other argument used in the council of nicaea was that jesus said he and the father were one but as i have shown you in my literature he used such tropes or metaphors extensively in his literature and it only signified he was one with him in intent and action as can be seen from the preceding verses and it is conjecture to say he is god along with him who is yahweh and that was not his meaning as can be seen from luke 4 and john 17 and there let the matter rest he made it clear he was not divine and his followers are reprimanded by our creator and promised hellfire if they say so as the quran tells us as that is the punishment in the quran for those who associate in partnership to allah and he is a jealous god and does not allow that as the old testament tells you please see the christians seek to dismiss the quran as a book of revelation from their creator as they have no answer for the categorical statements in it about one god with no partner to him and the denouncement of trinity in it so they say it is not from their god and they have no leg to stand on with the quran so they deny it and say it is the devils work but the quran simply validates the message of the tanakh and it is one message and the christians cant deny their own bible so they are in a quandary with these books and they should accept the message of the quran now as it validates their own book in the form of the old testament and not say of him who is jesus christ to them that he is divine while he never said so himself about his mission and purpose there and for the early christians the ebionites and nazarenes there he was simply prophet and christ to them and they were closer to him than later christianity that emerged from pauls teaching to them and in closing i will say that jesus never said worship me or take me to be god and if you say it the sin is upon you and you will see consequences in your next life after you die omar John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Luke 4 6 And the devil said unto him “All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.” 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him “Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” Deuteronomy 6 4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: 5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Al-Maida 5:116 And when Allah will say: O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah? He will say: Glory be to Thee! it was not for me to say what I had no right to (say). If I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. Surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen. 5:117 I said to them naught save as Thou didst command me: Serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord; and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die Thou wast the Watcher over them. And Thou art Witness of all things. Excerpt From Holy Quran Maulana Muhammad Ali

16:30 minutes. violence from Jesus at the temple,could it have been God the Father's violence and Jesus is innocent? Jesus & God the Father are one,the teaching is. EZEKIEL 14:14 even if these three men,Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver but their own lives by their righteousness, days the Lord GOD. EZEKIEL 14:21 "For thus says the Lord GOD: How much more when I send upon Jerusalem my four sore acts of judgement, sword, famine, evil beasts, and pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast! EZEKIEL 14:22 Yet, if there should be left in it any survivors to lead out sons and daughters, when they come forth to you, and you see their ways and their doings, you will be consoled for the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem,for all that I have brought upon it.

Conflating the Ukrainian conflict with extermination or genocide is rubbish

Strange how you are afraid to loose. When you take islam as a subject you call most renounced islamic scholars. But when you have to prove your agenda in christianity. There is no one you have who belongs to christian theological background.

Bible has been corrupted. But, not whole Bible. GOD the Eternal FATHER & GODDESS the Eternal MOTHER, know this, to be true.

Masjid Harram is located in promise land that means in Jerusalem not in Saudi Arabia where Ibrahim house is our real pilgrimage place for all nation

islam is self defeating theology.