Violin Prodigies Then VS Now 

Me: impressed and depressed

@@lylianna3.8fr

LMAO😭

Hilary Hahn: neutral

impressed, depressed, despair.

That's a cool idea

Omg yess

that would be cool

Yess

Agree

there is alot shown here thats hard to appreciate, and twoset does their best to try to get nonmusicians to understand how ridiculous these things are. its almost impossible to compare oneself when the skill gap is that large

Agreed. Just agreed 👍

@@Annihilator_5024it’s the age and the piece. T

R u muslim

I'm sorry to hear that; every child should be given the chance of a musical education.

@@eleanorburnham3713 definitely👏it's reality heart breaking to see music being treated as evil here!

They don’t teach music in school. Its an extracurricular hobby

@@gummynoodles9036 well that's cool anyway i wish we had that...

It might come across as less intense, but I assure you that it's not. Hilary Hahn has also been headlined as "the Ice Princess," which shocked her personally. Both of these violinists are so totally focused on getting the MOST out of every phrase, every choice of vibrato, every attack (articulation), every change of dynamic or tone color, etc etc, that they don't have time to physically jump around on the stage. I'd say don't just look: HEAR.

for me; Maria's playing is my preference. she's Spanish. you can tell. it's amazing.

for me; Chloe's playing is my preference. she's Singaporean. you can tell. it's amazing.

@@snowyminnesota6028 All I meant was that she's not like some of her fellow prodigies who never seen to relax even when they're through playing. They're tense when they walk on stage and tense when they walk off and, IMO, that's not healthy. Chloe loves what she's doing and that love is reflected in her music. She's an absolute joy to listen to. I'm not a huge fan of classical music, but I'm a huge fan of Chloe.

@@belmarmom It's probably "sacrilegous" to do this, but it's interesting to watch these videos without listening to the sound. For many of these youngsters, they'll give that big display of emotion, the bowing, lifting and shaking of the head, the flourish with the bow. Even Hilary Hahn said her teachers told her that you have to "show" the audience where the big moments are. But at a certain point, their body language goes quiet. It might be a technically difficult passage, or someplace where it's simple melodically or harmonically, or just a transitional passage in the music, but inevitably there's a noticeable loss of energy and spirit in the presentation. With Chloe, it never lets down. No matter what kind of music she's performing, she seems to be totally in the moment, in mind, body and spirit, and I believe it really makes a difference in her sound. It certainly makes her mesmerizing to watch. Christian Lee is another one like that, but I think it's a bit contrived with him. He's been putting on a show for a long time. With Chloe, it's all natural, all the time. The music just flows through her. Through TwoSet, we know that when Chloe is not playing the violin, she is basically just a sweet, nice, wholesome young kid, and that makes it all the more exciting. It's like Clarke Kent turning into Superman when she starts to play.

Agreed.

there was a little bit at the beginning but at this point it's just pointing a spot of dust in a giganting statue of gold

Result of practicing 40 hrs a day lol

@@dinamosflams beautifully said.

@@dinamosflams but you have to understand the violin size wasn't full

Wow i didnt even notice the panning. Subtle but it draws you in. Thanks for sharing

Baby Ling Ling is going to be a fantastic player when she has fully matured.

Makes twoset disappear

Chloe as an adult: two set is dead😔

Makes twoset better... She is their sensei, after all😉

Chloe as an adult: *Is Ling Ling*

Its shit.

wtf man i mean we can all have different oppinions but just commenting „she‘s shit“. Maybe try getting that good on the violin and get better than her. I tried xD

@@benni_thf Maria's performances are all about her,, and a very limited part of her at that, since she is only in her element when expressing aggression. A master butcher can cut a carcass with supreme precision and speed, and, even, in a very limited sense, some artistry. But while the resulting spectacle might be impressive, a person who watches it every day is, well ... going down the wrong path. All the talk in this thread of Maria being "passionate" is extremely superficial and myopic. A violinist who plays with passion has a _myriad_ of emotions at their disposal and expresses them not by way of self-indulgence but strictly as the piece demands. E.g. Mozart and Bach are no less passionate than Paganini! Indeed, any "aggression" to be found in Paganini's compositions is their least interesting feature.

@@jackburgess274 I tend to agree with this interesting perspective, from hearing only what's presented in this video. There was very little time given to more tender music. It would have been interesting to hear her play, as you said, Mozart; or maybe Thaïs. Or the Saint-Saens Introduction (from Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso). So far, hers is not a sound I love listening to, however impressive. She reminds me very much of Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg, also a very individual stylist, whose unique performances fascinated me once upon a time. It was refreshing to hear something completely different from the same-old-same-old; it made me think more about what was possible, and then also be more appreciative also of other violinists. Salerno-Sonnenberg was the subject of a 1999 documentary, 'Speaking in Strings,' which was nominated for an academy award in 2000. Just in case anybody's interested. Hard to find anymore, but not impossible.

@@snowyminnesota6028 I don't know of Nadja but will look her up (in particular the video you mention). Maria performed Mozart's vc #4 for the 2017 Zhuhai, and she resurrected the work for Menuhin 2022. She really isn't comfortable with it, and it is eclipsed even by Chloe's performance of the work at Zhuhai 2017 (when she was 10), to say nothing of Chloe's superlative 2020 Mozart vc #2, which is _vastly_ superior. I don't think Maria has performed Meditation, but to compare their respective legatos one can turn to the second movement andante of Mendelssohn's violin concerto. In her 2019 Atlanta performance (when she was 12), Chloe's legato is most beautiful, and of exemplary musical depth and sensitivity. In comparison (to that incredibly high standard), Maria's recent performance is wooden and superficial. Ysaye's Ballade affords another direct comparison, since Maria performed it a few months ago when winning the Tretyakov competition. In terms of emotional power and sheer musicality, Chloe wins hands down.

Talent runs across genetics just like how some people are born with more muscle taller stuff like that some people are born dumb as a rock and some people are born like Chloe just look at different dogs some of them are constantly running into doors and just falling on their face and then some of them are smarter than certain human beings humans are the same way the dog example is perfect because dogs are very instinctual and the difference between a dumb dog and a smart dog is much more based on their genetics than their teacher unlike human beings which even if they are born less intelligent can excel if they work hard enough

She is not the only one producing that sound style, but I must say I am a sucker for it. Would love to hear her play 2nd mvt of Prokofievs 2nd violin concerto. My favourite violinists whistle throughout it :-)

I learned to produce that whistle sound, it’s really like a “wow” moment to hear my violin sound like a flute lol

@@fluffy-fluffy5996 how? What's the technique?

@@GoldenMediaGirl harmonics low. Basically touch the string without pressing it down. You can try it on the high notes it sounds really nice

I agree. SoHyun's performance of Zigeunerweisen is by far one of my favorites and those high notes are so soothing to hear.

What’s the anime??

@Daily Dose Of Stupitity true

@Daily Dose Of Stupitity that so true

They also haven't rehearsed the pieces at all in fairness to them.

Hamburgers taste disgusting

Glad I'm not the only one. Soon as she started playing, I couldn't help but cry 😭

take out the 'ok but' and this would've been a normal comment

@@topasu9454 Alright, I’ll remember that this year then. Even though I was just saying how I like her playing and I don’t see any problems with “Ok but” Not like I was saying other ones in the video play bad or anything.

Idk I remember being way Too self conscious to ever devote any performance in a concert 100% to the playing, from age 5

Yes, both Christian Li and Daniel Lozakovich improved so much in a very short period of time, I was hoping they reviewed them but they didn't.......

maybe they will do part 2

it hurts that I'm the same age as Chloe, shows that I'm incompetent if that's how you spell it.

@@generalbutsatisfied0317 same💀

I think it may have something to do with the general development of fine motor skills vs gross motor and iirc girls on average develop good fine motor much earlier then boys. (I have a ling ling insurance policy just in case)

The caption is incorrect. Chloe was only 14 (and 3 months) when she gave that performance.

Makes me want to learn violin even though I'm a cellist.

@@jackburgess8579thank you for obliterating what little self esteem I had left

Found u

@@autoghg always happy to see your reply lol

I see you again! I’ve seen you everywhere!

@@andafasaisai Hello~ lol yeah I did comment under lots of their videos

By the way the title of the video is female prodigies ?? 🤔🤔

Yes!!

Nah. Its is really superficial.

@@jackburgess274 what do you make of Kerson leong then?

@@violaisreallycool -Really superficial- Sorry (a moment of madness). I'm not sure why you bring Kerson Leong into it. He is a good violinist. I don't think he is superficial.

​@@jackburgess274 what is superficial ?

@@jackburgess274 Perhaps a prejudice to work on.

Yeah her bow man

2021 Menuhin senior winner!

I'm a flutist too. When I watch TwoSet for too long I want to quit 😭

I suspect that's what talent is, you learn like 5 times faster than others. For each successful musician you probably have lots and lots of other people that practiced just as hard just didn't quite get there.

Which also makes me realize how incompetent I have been in life

@@bencze465 there is no such thing as talent, only those who learn easier than others, which isnt probably whats happening right now. Young minds have lots of room for development fast and quickly and lots of free time since their young.

@@dean3134 don't think that way! They are called prodigies for a reason, I'm sure u have other things that u are good at :-)

@@claire9058 I mean thank u for the compliment, but like hell bruh all my self esteem reduced to atoms

Their parents probably force them to do so. I can't imagine how a 5 year old decides to become an expert in violin. These children probably don't have a lot of freedom.

@@starstenaal527 yeah most of them don't but theres ana viodic who decides to play at that age on her own

@@starstenaal527 I believe they do

@@starstenaal527 That's a stereotype lol even if the parent forces them to play a lot, they won't get really good unless they like to play and practice. Those stereotypes are just made to make kids who gave up playing instruments feel better.

@@bobdagranny7431 That's not true, as an Asian and a musician, I personally know people who were forced by their parents to the point where they've grown to hate playing those instruments. If you play an instrument dedicatedly or are involved in the community you would know at least one person who grew up the exact same way you think is impossible. I don't even know where you're pulling this information from, because it absolutely does happen and I've met people who have experienced it first hand. Hopefully you'll stop spreading this misinformation you've created.

She was absolutely horrifying! She assaulted that beautiful concerto. I got sick to my stomach.

@@moooobkityy The concerto had it coming :P

@@sealpiercing8476 she will have it coming when she stops getting hired for horrible playing. Classical music is not about the individual it's about music. She needs to respect it.

@@moooobkityy Yeah keep commenting and it'll happen (hint: it's not). She's too busy touring around the world.

@@vt4979 it doesn't mean she has respect from anyone

Nah it looks like an iPad

Spanish and italian are worlds apart in this case

Mr. T I assume Maria is from Spain. In Spanish her last name means owner. Well, she sure owned those two ltalian tunes. But most of all she owned the fiddle itself......probably Italian...

@@amaquonsippi yes shes spanish

@@amaquonsippi she owns a strad now

I don't think you need to be of a specific ethnicity to be able to play a piece. These are very well known, overplayed pieces, not something really fringe that no one heard before and you don't know how it should sound.

Thank you for this!!!!

Thank youuu

Chloe seems like the most “naturally gifted”, where everything comes easy. Maria seems like the hardest working.the fact she can such a significant improvement in such a short amount of time is astonishing!

Thanks Satan

@@jean-lucpicard3012 Sutton?

yesssss this pls

Yes omg I’ve been commenting thissss

Shittt i immediately think of Eddy and Brett's way of saying *interesting*

IntEresTing!

I've been hoping they'd do a video on her again for a while! She's really amazing at bringing back that classical/romantic vocabulary in a completely unique way

I was thinking that the bow looks slightly big so maybe she’s using a nicer full size bow when she would ideally use a 3/4 bow? She looked more comfortable in the third clip

They came form privileged backgrounds -- hence had the best teachers and learned correct technique, they started young so their brain developed around the instrument, they had natural talent (which a lot of people like to deny exists for some reason), and they had the perseverance to practice with enough focus to become world class. It's a lot of things.

I’m so envious of you 😢

Was it the butterfly lovers?

So true. My step son was a natural at water-skiing... took to it like a duck to water... but we couldn't afford the lessons or petrol costs to the lakeside location. My ex discovered a potentially talented sculptor when he worked in a school for seriously disturbed children who came from various abusive backgrounds. (Class size 5!) Even getting the head teacher to allow these kids to handle 'potential weapons' was difficult... but they loved being trusted and this particular kid was lost in a world of sculpting/creativity for a brief period. Such children don't stand a chance yet potential abounds within so many. It's heart-breaking...

I read a book once that mentioned the idea of a potential math and physics type genius being born into a hunter gatherer society. He or she wouldn’t be great at hunting or other survival skills i bet and would be considered kinda bad at stuff

I often wonder about that myself and others too. The idea that we could’ve been something greater had we just had the chance. How many beautiful minds go unrefined left in the mud :( one day I dream of a world that gives everyone that chance

Every single child in the world then not exposed to the highest level of teaching from age 2?

@@patinho5589 Opportunity rather than teaching? And then the time and money needed to further their skills...

Maria és una gran inspiración para cualquier joven músico!

Por fin, reconocimiento para María!👏🏼👏🏼

That is actually a regular thing in violin playing

Her playing makes me stressed out, tbh.

Why, what happened?

@@susanbryant6516 probably experienced getting compared to lingling like in Ed and Bret's skits.

😂😂😂 the FYI

@@anadd6195 "why you no doctor" violin edition

@@susanbryant6516 “She so good! Why can’t you be like her?” - Leticia’s mom, most likely

Yeh!

Try Guido Sant'Anna playing. So diferent of Chloe's and he was just 13.

I mean can kids tie shoe laces at that age? Yet these kids are able to cope with intricate fingering and rapid movements with ease and fluidity. That they can even read this music is mind-blowing... But they play it with a mastery that would take us lesser mortals decades to achieve.... if ever!

OMG yes! It would be so cool for them to play together!

Chloe is way better. Ever since her stunning performance of Mozart's second violin concerto when she was 13, she has consistently out-performed everyone else. She is still only 17 but she has already recorded five cds (with Pentatone). Two are of live performances: one of Locatelli's "Harmonic Labyrinth" and Vivaldi's Four Seasons (when she was 15) and the other of Paganin's first violin concerto and the Butterfly Lovers' violin concerto by Cheng Gang and He Zhenhao (when she was 16, to be released next month). The other three cds are in a box set of the complete works of Mozart for violin and orchestra, which are studio recordings (to be released in the new year).

I wonder how often she gets her bow rehaired. Her luthier must hate her as well