Virpil SharKa50 Collective Review - I can Fly in DCS 

Agreed, would love to see one

Wait what is the difference? I don't know much about these but is there any major difference or is it just shape and button position?

@@ju87stukadivebomber87 shape and button position, any collective will do the job, but it’s nice to have a replica if you want to go the extra mile

Was thinking this but given the way they made the base, they can only really replicate the top half of the AH-64 grip without making the stick + grip ridiculously long. At which point there isn’t much functional difference between it and the Hawk-60 grip.

...and little you know, a year later they have!

It’s a shame.. nice guy, overpriced 3D printed shit on a cheap stick. Comes apart like cake on a plate underwater.

Bought Komodo too and had the collective literally fall apart in my hand while flying; the plug connection had completely disintegrated. Also, 4-point swivel hat switch on cyclic has literally turned to dust and is completely unusable for quite a while now.

What a kind thing to say

I really wish he would explain more of why it wont work im SC. Thats the main reason i want this!

@@Brizizaz I think thats possibly because of the limit of the available axis. Sure the twist throttle would work for one axis [forward/back], and the pitch control could be another [up down], but you lose one axis [slide left right], which I guess could be done with pedals, but the collecive is more of a "set and stick" than a momentary, like your pitch/yaw/roll controlls. Hmm, maybe if you take a left stick controller, add a friction clutch to each axis, and remove the "return to center" springs, you could get a similar effect. Would need a detent for a neutral thruster position. One of the reasons I fly HOSAS is because you DO get movement along those 3 axis...problem with the accelleration control is it effects ALL thrusters and not just your main ones, so manuvering suffers too...hmmm, now my brain is working the problem... oooh, theres an idea. Keep the springs for return to center for the axises for left/right/up/down, but only keep a detent for forward/back. That way you're not neutering ALL your thrusters when in cruise but reducing the limiters...Similar to the way I had my Thrustmaster HOTAS throttle set up with the forward/aft axis providing thrust and the ministick doing the strafe [but being on a full stick, gives you more fine control than the little ministick does]. Put the stick on one of those "3d stick to throttle" mounts, and then modify the twist axis to be the detent with no return spring and you have roll on/off throttle [like a motorcycle] while stick movement becomes your strafe controls. I'm going to have to see if I can modify the twist mech for the Gladiators I have to do that...

@@wilemelliott HOLY COW, i wasnt expectinf a reply at all, let alone an amazing detailed one. Thank you. Yea, i see a lot of people rock dual sticks for that same reason you mentioned which is what i would probably go with. I didnt even realize what the left handed thing he was using was. But the “like a motorcycle throttle” explained it pretty well.

@@wilemelliott One thing that comes to mind, for me, is that the virpil collective will take their flight stick grips, too. So it might be possible to stick an Alpha-L on there and gain the analog axes that gives *on* the grip itself. There's an analog stick to be had there, plus the brake lever that could be (ab)used in fun ways...

@@wilemelliott I wonder if you could set it for vtol specifically, for ships that have designated vtol

FACT

If there was any time to get into it, DCS is making it very temtping this year! The Apache is close to release, the Hind is incredible and we are hoping for the Kiowa release also this year. But the 'older' modules like the Huey and the MI-8 are also fantastic. Just mastering the Huey will give you countless hours of fun!

Oh wow Very cool I like

This is just Adobe CC

When I get my commercial license, let me take you on a flight c:!

Glad it helped!

Monstertech have adapter mounts to mount the virpil collective on a chair

I never said that more weight would make it die out sooner. I said that more weight on a gamble compromises the linear nature of the return, and the user experience is compromised compare to a grip that weighs less

@@NOOBIFIER1337 but that is only relative to the cam/clutch/spring design. You can have two separate grip weigths and exactly the same feel on the grip with a heavier grip by simply changing spring weight / clutch tightness. After all this system has a clutch as well. Warthog is also pot metal that is pretty heavy, VPC's main competitor on the colective, WinWing, typically makes a lighter all metal body grip than what TM would use. You can't get the heavy resin grips that real combat AC typically use because the manufacturing process is costly per unit, so the industry is left using either injection molded plastic, vacuformed plastic, 3d printed plastics or some form of metal alloy. Neither effects performance of the actual motion of the overall collective unless the mechanism isn't designed to handle the extra weight....

That stick in Fighter Ace almost made me crap my pants more than once. The sudden impact of rounds from an enemy pilot, etc. A very fun stick.

I think you’ll love them

Sick

Thanks for sharing your experiences with the gear.

Thanks for the kind words of support. I was looking at the Huey for sure.. such an iconic bird

Yes, that may be true, for those who fly something like ann ah64 which is more acrobatic.. or turn on the realism settings to get a better sim, it does matter

They might be releasing a new collective soon. They announced a photo recently on Twitter

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YaTyqBudcBs.html

The original channel link is BRIANMP5T after my car. The rebrand was just before I made content on RU-vid.

I have a couple of systems.. the VR one is a 5600x, 16gb, 3070

For sure. It’s even better lately

Yes, you can of course, just rotate the gimbal

I will figure a way to.

I used the Virpil mount first. It’s very universal, quite sturdy. It isn’t as adjustable as monstertech, but either are good. It depends on if you want to upgrade with other option in the future. Hope that helps.

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Thanks! I use Mostertech deskmounts, so I will check them out!

I tried it, it works fine. I wanted to fly helicopter though and they sent the grip… so I’m probably not going to ever put an alpha on it.

It is more firm than the MFC1, if you are interested in comfort, I suggest ordering the softer PU Leather material. I had done a review on it as well as the MPC1 recently.

You only have ONE DOF instead of 3

@@NOOBIFIER1337 and a twist throttle. That's one DOF more than a normal HOTAS. If anyone's gonna find out how well it works, it's gonna be you.

@@makbar59 the twist isn’t well optimized to be used all the time. I can tell you it’s a bad idea compared to a stick

You're also up ridiculous early like me haha, great video :)

I am a military engineer.

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Not to 20 question you, but I had the opportunity to train at Ft. Lenord Wood in Missouri. On of the big AIT schools there was Combat Engineer, they built temp bridges and other things for troop movement (my best assumption after I saw all their equipment in action). Is that similar to what a military engineer does in the Canadian Armed Forces? If you don’t feel comfortable answering I completely understand. I really enjoy your content btw, and the excitement and passion you bring to both simulation and SC.

@@mintberry6014 Yes, there are however 4 types of Engineer in Canada. They each do some sort of technical work in different disciplines however. Combat Engineers are as you described, Construction are focused on building anything, Fire Fighters self explanatory and there are Geomatics, which is what I do. Mapping to support operations with everything you might expect from an intelligence support to combat.

@@NOOBIFIER1337 Ok that makes sense. I was one of 9 “careers” in Civil Engineering or CE in the U.S. Air Force. One of those careers was EA or Engineering Assistant 3E5X1 which created Maps, conducted site surveys and other things. Sounds like that’s what you do essentially. Bet there’s some good job potential outside the military with that skill set. Anyways, thanks for answering my many questions.

Did you perform firmware, profile and calibration.

@@NOOBIFIER1337 I’m afraid I don’t know how to do that. Do you have any videos that explain that? I finally got it to where “up” on the collective increases torque and vis versa but I really need to dial it in. I’m out of town but will work on it this weekend.

@@RamadiTaxiDriver60M join my discord so I can speak with you easier

I checked for you. It’s touchy, but I find it manageable. Perhaps you are correct though, it’s a very fine push required.

I just went to have. Look… my lord.. no, you can tell just in the photos, no…. No comparison.

@@NOOBIFIER1337 That's fair. It is about 1/3 the cost, not alot of people making Heli sim gear. I guess a better question would be, is it 300% better? lol

@@SmoocheeWallace I would rather a person use a Virpil throttle as a collective, than waste money on a something that will likely breach after 30 hours of use and be. Put in the garbage