The former world chess champion Vladimir Kramnik gets destroyed by an International Master cheater from Iran and immediately leaves the tournament and ends the stream! THE FUNNIEST ENDING EVER LMAO! #twitch #chess #clips
I don’t think it’s funny to be honest it’s pretty sad. Kramnik is a legend and none of us should revel in his becoming a laughing stock. I ain’t defending his actions, it’s ridiculous, especially in this case in which I think it’s pretty clear his opponent was NOT cheating, but still it’s possible I think that this could be early onset dementia or something like that, I mean it really is weird that he missed that combination at all, let alone be so quick to judge an opponent who found it as cheating. Somebody close to him needs to get him some help
Kramnik catches a lot of hate nowadays. But the fact of the matter is, he's RIGHT. Even though people don't wanna admit it, and would rather hate him, cheating is rampant in high level chess. And cheating is how a lot of players reached that level. Now having said that, he's pretty dumb for implying that Hikaru cheated. I honestly think Kramnik is a blessing to chess, and we need more people like him. He seems like a great guy who's just fed up with where chess is headed, in my honest opinion
He’s right. There is a lot of cheaters, that’s why his approach to handling the situation is so dangerous. He’s making himself look silly accusing anyone and everyone, including Hikaru. Makes him seem less credible.
@@fkdkfnfnldbjdbfjd7179 Spot on! And he's doing it in a childish way. Rather than submitting the games in question privately to the proper FIDE authorities, he tweets and tries to stir the pot. Even accusing people like Hikaru who clearly aren't cheating. Makes it seem like he's just a sore loser. In spite of all that, I still like Kramnik and think he's a good guy
@@johndelatorre4794 Yeah, that's the problem. Whenever someone outplays him, it seems like he just accuses them of cheating rather than admitting he lost. He's fallen into an ego trap. He is obviously pulling the cheating card too often, but I'd like to think that he can still acknowledge when his opponent outplayed him
@@Daelon89 I'm pretty amazed to read so many comments of people who obviously know nothing about chess and can not even realize he's more than right for this particular case ...
I am from Iran and I watched this game last week. The Iranain oppnent is a legit well known old player. He was champion in Iran 20 years ago, and definitely strong player. Cheating is mainly matter for people who has no title. If you look at oppening, the white player didn't do anything crazy for oppening. The accuracy of white was only 91 Also. I really doubt cheating was the case. Kramnik should learn to respect when he is losing, even if he thinks the oppnent was cheating. He can always report the player and game later.
Неадекватен си! Намали овнешкото, ще спадне и холестерола, а от там ще се нормализира и мисловната дейност! Какво като тоя дърт пес е бил шампион на Иран, да не би света да свършва с Иран, Големия Влад беше световен шампион, смаза Каспаров, победи и нашия Топалов, въобще какво да ти обяснявам, този сайт изначално е пълен със загубеняци, а администраторите нехаят и не вземат никакви мерки да пресекат тази зараза. Лъже се от ниво 1000ело, до ниво 3000ело по тяхната система, видно за всеки нормален, друг е въпроса защо такъв велик шампион си губи времето да играе с идиоти от такъв калибър?
I don’t know the cadence of Kramnik’s opponents moves seemed natural to me. It’s weird that he automatically assumes an IM that calculated an attacking combination that Kramnik admits, during play, that he missed, is cheating. It’s getting weirder and weirder, he even admits he is tired after the game, and let’s face it, he is no spring chicken and it’s not like the IM played a ridiculously deep line or anything, he just saw a clear tactic Kramnik missed! Bizarre, I love Kramnik but his behaviour of late is pretty poor actually. :(
yea it was all fair. It took me not even half a second seeing RxN. rest of the moves looked very natural to me. I think Kramnik is just getting to the age where things get harder to understand. it's happened to top players before.
I have no doubt that you are way better than me but at 2:05 when his opponent played g3 Ke7 for h4 it looks pretty like a computer. What I say is not that the opponent of Kramnik cheated for sure but there is a doubt.
There is a video of Kramnik where he does his usual cheating accusation, the funny thing is that Kramnik was completely winning but missed the winning sequence of moves, and it want that hard to see, Nakamura and Dina Belenkaya commented on that video
Do you know the title of Hikaru's video because I can't find it. Also, according to Stockfish, Kramnik never had an advantage in this game. I'm not saying his opponent cheated but what was that winning sequence of moves you're referring to?
@@ahmedm6228I'm not refering ti this game in particular, the game I am refering was pawn ending, the fact Is that Kramnik was so focused in that the oponent is a cheater that he completely overlooked that he could promote fiesta and deliver checkmate, Hikaru was shocked that Vlad missed that and started laughing, but I Will check to see if I find it and tell you the vídeo title
Kramnik is just paranoid. He thinks just because he once was the world champion he will be unbeatable forever. So everyone who wins against him obviously must be a cheater.
What sequences? It changes his plan in very complex lines within a few seconds after each opponent's move. Last line was easy for an IM bcs SF did all the previus dirty work
Agree. Kramnik's opening choice was bad. He had a bad light square bishop, have isolated and double pawns. It's very clear that white has the upperhanded after 10th move i think.
You guys debating, ha you stupid idiots are probably not even a fraction of what Kramnik has achieved, if an IM plays with 99 or 98 percent accuracy consistently why isn't he a GM.
Something you guys should notice is that when you do a game review, the engine analyses the whole game in approximately 3 seconds. This means that the engine does not analyse anywhere near its full strength.
A little unrelated but just something to note, the game review is that fast because of cloud analysis being able to run multiple moves in parallel. If you analyze locally on your own pc it won't be anywhere as fast for similar depths.
This do feel like a cheater. People who comment about how they also have gotten games with close to perfekt accuracy forget that the longer the game and the better the resistence the harder it is to play near perfect, sure i also slam some 1600 with 96% in blitz in an 18 move game once in a blue moon, but to get 98,3% in a relativly long game with no major mistake is not easy. I also read that all the moves seems nartual, but forget to realize that there are MANY moves that seems natural in most positions yet to chose the best one every time is NOT normal for an IM or GM in blitz.. Not taking on d5 seems weird for blitz. 93% this guy cheated at least somewhere.
98.3 accuracy in a complicated endgame is a strong indicator of cheating, unfortunately. Not to mention that the guy had a +6 score before this game in a tournament where people like Magnus, Naka, Kramnik, Grischuk, Dubov...play. 98.3 accuracy against a 2700+ gm and a former WC is akin to a player scoring 5 goals in World Cup or Champions League final. It simply doesn't happen. In online chess it does? Why? Because people use engines.
@@andro99991 I’ve had plus 96 accuracy in many games, and less than 60 in others, many top players like magnus do t perform well in some tournaments like title Tuesday, while others do, I’m an Iranian and I know the guy, he’s a legit player, I’ve made analysis videos of some of his games. He’s name is Mehdi Gholami
@@andro99991 I’ve had plus 96 accuracy in many games, and less than 60 in others, many top players like Magnus sometimes don’t do well in some tournaments like title Tuesday. I’ve made some analysis videos about some of his games. He’s a legit player. His name is Mehdi Gholami
@@albertledromadaire theres less then 100 elo difference between them. that means other guy should have a fair and good chance of winning ageinst kramnik. he won classical world championship 15 years ago. thats could just as easily been a lifetime ago considering the new tools we have had last few years to help people improve. kramnik just simply havent kept up since he won back then, and especially when it comes to rapid chess. for me kramnik just looks like an bitter old man that dosent realize he havent kept up with the new times, and instead of accepting it, he blames everyone around him for cheeting. its really sad this is probably what he gonna be remembered of instead of his archivements on the chessboard
@@albertledromadaire 'The dude is an IM with 2800 online Blitz rating. Of course he can beat a former WC who has 2900 online blitz rating. The rating difference is only 100 points
I would suspect a cheater there too. After f5 (horrible positional blunder i think) Nf4 and so one was strategical winning for white. And the fact, that the opponent dont go for Nxd5/ and Rc8+...a little bit sus
@@ChessKingsTV777 Yeah I spoke too soon. The battery in my mouse is getting low and I had several mouse slips. Now I am clicking squares with Kramnik like it's 1999.
He didn’t play well it’s as simple as that, and if you either underestimate your opponent or just play one bad move after the other, you’ll lose no matter what your name is.
I'm pretty sure it was in the midgame, when things got really complicated. Especially in very complex positions, it's very easy to make a mistake. So most humans do. But some people might cheat for a few moves when they don't really know what to do, and then go back to playing without assistance once the position clears up.
@@zengarland4421 Also everyone has his genius moments where everything goes well, even a 1500 rated player can have a 98.3% accuracy game every now and then. Wouldn't be common, but it's not weird or impossible.
He used most of the time on a tactic which he did not do -Nxd5. When engine showed him the winning move, he was afraid that his performance would look too overwhelming and for a moment he did not know what to do. On one hand he wants to beat Kramnik, on second hand it would look too strong. You can`t beat Kramnik so badly and play so fast at the same time. I am surprised this cheater is still not banned. It`s sad to see world champion Kramnik finding himself in this s^^^^ all the time.
He didnt cheated lmao. Normal looking moves, nothing crazy from his part. The last tactic at the end is easily found at their level. And his time consumption is good : fast on obvious moves, and he spent a lot on important décisions and when position is complex
I know mahdi and hes rating is 2450 and he is going to be A GM very soon In the game hes playing the main line and thats why hes accuracy is 97 The move that kramnik played and said its a blunder is not even a blunder which shows how he is seeing ghosts. When u start the game judging by the nationality and believing hes cheater from the beginning guess what happens u play for the lose.
I'm sick of this guy constantly accusing players of cheating. I've had players accuse me of cheating when I've outplayed them. It's just sad and shows he's a bad sport. I hope he grows up.
Tactics in this game were very very easy to spot. White always has e4 on his mind. Also there was no need to calculate till the end. Just the hanging bishop was enough for white to go for e4. It happened that everything else worked too, but the rest was too easy, even for an 1800 player to spot in seconds. Besides TT now have at least one camera on. Dont they?
Specifically in this Match he was playing against Mahdi Gholami he is Iranian IM and is very much talented player and he is not a cheater. Vladimir is right there are a lot of cheaters but he only says that when is playing badly
Hello, I'm not a pro chess player but my rating is about 2000. It doesn't seem to be a cheater. I mean tactics like this you see in 1800 rated games. He's 2850 rated so about 100 points between you two. That means you will not beat him 100% of the games you play against him. Also he created his chess account in 2019. Cheaters usualy have new accounts.
I didn't find this funny, I hate cheaters too, and it is extremely frustrating. Higher than 98 percent accuracy in such a fast and complicated game, from some unknown Master and not even GM does spell a cheater pretty clearly, Kramnik is correct. Not really funny
You're right! But what can we do about it? We allowed these private companies and instutions to take over chess and now they get to decide what the current and future chess is like.
@@ADliver4430 Also, people love drama and laugh like crazy when Karmnik says something dubious but he's right as a whole and i understand why he finds the cheating on titled tuesday ridiculous!
@@ADliver4430this particular game ? Because of the devastating moves at the end ? Ridiculous you and Kramlik underestimate what players are capable of I don’t think there is definitive proof only accusation which means nothing unless substantiated
This is kind of annoying to see. Your opponent clearly missed the Knight takes D5 tactic, which a computer wouldn't have. You're seeing ghosts now Kramnik, I'm 1800 rated and I'm sure you'd accuse me of cheating if we played over the board.
i used to be 1700 15 years ago, vlad would literally fuck me up sideways blindfolded with no time on his clock@@kingmo565 i have played against local gm tornike sanikidze and it was like i did not even know how to play chess. and he was doing blindfolded simul... now imagine kramik
@@AndersonAlves-xf3hp How does that make any sense. You can also mouse slip while trying to click on a specific square same like letting go the click on a specific square while dragging.
Hahaha, just for those who do not understand the accuracy analysis and believe that every low rated player with an accuracy of more than 90% is cheating: I just played a 1 minute bullet game and my opponent won. I have no suspicion that he cheated. His accuracy: 99% 😂(and I even had the deep analysis mode on). Here is the game (My opponent is white): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb4+ 7.Nc3 Nxe4 8.O-O Bxc3 9.d5 Bf6 10.Re1 Ne7 11.Rxe4 d6 12.Bg5 Bxg5 13.Nxg5 O-O 14.Nxh7 Kxh7 15.Qh5+ Kg8 16.Rh4 f5 17.Qh7+ Kf7 18.Rh6 Rg8 19.Re1 Kf8 20.Rh3 Bd7 21.Rhe3 Nc8 22.Be2 Qf6 23.Bh5 Nb6 24.Re6 Bxe6 25.Rxe6 Qxb2 26.Qxf5+ Qf6 27.Rxf6+
i am not sure whether he is calling the opponent a cheater just because he lost the game. i hope thats not the case but if it is then Kramnik is a bad loser. haha. he should definitely learn to lose with pride
what cheat? even a noob like me saw the bad position of black since move 9-10. dead light bishop, dead rook on b6, almost no tentative to attack somehow and open the game.
Wthat the ..? Every time he loses is because his opponent cheted? His oponnent even missed a good tactical move,i think Kramnik has serious personal issues
@@kirokirov-lu8cs Защо ? Не е ли вярно ?.. Всъщност, като се замисля - прав си ! Толкова е смешен и жалък в последните години, че дори коментарите са излишни...
last few moves were not difficult but in the middlegame some moves were critical like at 3:35 rook to c5.it was a crucial move and might be an engine move.
They always turn on the engine at middlegame because openings are all about theory and you can do these moves almost instantly. Problem is when even when you do middlegame chaotically, they always find a miracle move to counteract all your movements. This is when you find a cheater.
@@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mrRc5 seems to me like the normal move, even an untitled club player would do. I mean, you don't have many pieces to improve easily in that position to something useful other than that rook attacking a hanging pawn in active position. Then finding e4 trick so quick because of bishop hanging is much less obvious to me, but still not something crazy for IM level. Then the final tactical secuence would come along the way even if he didn't see that deep when doing e4. Check check check check... not so hard to spot after exd3, as Kramnik himself did in few seconds.
I don`t know why it is supposed to be funny, when a cheater is detected. Kramnik is far above everyone, who is criticizing him. Nevertheless people have the audacity of ridiculing him. Instead they should be grateful that he helps to bring attention to the cheating that is going on that robs the honest participants of their prize money or at least well deserved rating points. Cheating is a big danger to chess and people , who do it need to be exposed and punished.
Kramnik is a sad joke. Just looked up MetiForce on the app. He definitely did not cheat. He win loss stats are normal and he's a IM and chess coach. I hope they ban Karmnik for his stupidity.
This is really rude that at the start he saw Iran flag and said "let's see if I can put a resistance" like he was sure he is going to cheat. If he is too good why doesn't he play in an OTB tournament to see what he will do there. There might be cheaters but players got strong as well like every other game.
Its a pity how people hates him because his is vocal about the situation. He is world champion with hudge exp plus even in his age he can beat Dubov in blitz. Stupid haters thats all. Plus he never accused Hikaru the last one made it up
There is a problem with cheating in online chess - there is no doubt. Whether this guy did or not - we don’t know. 98.3 for a 3 minute chess match against kramnik is a very high score. But it might just be a game where everything came together for them. Who knows. I’m barely 1000 and I once got 95+ or something, and I thought - they prob think I cheated but I didn’t! All the moves I did just seemed like the right moves. It doesn’t often happen. But I don’t think you can compare 95+ scores against poor players with 95+ scores against IM/GM. It’s a totally different metric because the likelihood of making accurate moves depends on your opponent. I was playing someone of similar level - so not great. Against lower players it’s significantly easier to get a more accurate score as there are no traps to fall into. Kramnik is right to call for a thorough investigation into online chess cheating. I would never get such a score against a 1500+ player. Perhaps he takes matters into his own hands a bit because nothing is ever done about it. I don’t see how online chess from your room can ever be policed properly. Even with camera people can have things hidden. I would not play for money in online chess because it is too open to abuse.
You can actually score pretty high, depending on more factors, like when the bot blundered (or human, doesn't matter). If he blundered in the opening, then all you do is a mop up. Small imperfections (inaccuracies) don't count that much, cause you're still a lot of points ahead on plus. So a "bad move" from +7 to +5, which is normally almost a knight, is still considered good play. Even more important, the big number of moves can consolidate the so called accuracy, given you "slaughter" the opponent in many moves. So yes, I myself got many 90+ accuracy games against chess bots, rated anywhere between 1600 and 2300.
I do think that Kramnik is paranoid regarding top GMs on this platform, but this particular game is of course a game with a cheater ))) crazy accuracy and what is more important - when white play e4 so quickly and confidently, they need to calculate everything until Rxd6, Nc5 otherwise black should hold that imho
There is no proof he cheated.. That's not hard sequence to calculate and everything is forced with not too many branches. Even the site agrees as he is not banned and still playing.
@@AKhan0372 site has zillion of cheaters not banned... What is your ELO? Mine is 2420, i am an IM and that sequence with e4 is very hard to find for me in a blitz game
Drag and drop is a bit waste of time esp blitz, click and drop is good,‼️ also drag and drop sometimes can be deadly due to accidental dropping of a piece
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