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VOD REVIEW OF THE LEGENDARY KTZ GAME(FULL DETAILED RANT LONG) 

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@AsmaHt
@AsmaHt 2 года назад
Even when he's angry he's a class act. This is why we love you Faniel.
@blasteffect19
@blasteffect19 2 года назад
I think I saw one of your comment in a video about the upcoming update saying it crushed your last hopes or something like that correct me if am wrong
@AsmaHt
@AsmaHt Год назад
@@blasteffect19 that is me yes
@jenesesenriquez1248
@jenesesenriquez1248 Год назад
Fan your the best
@l3ftie578
@l3ftie578 Год назад
@@AsmaHt sadge
@brianchu8147
@brianchu8147 2 года назад
Steps to winning when playing as a healer. 1. Heal your team 2. Don't 1v1 opponents main DPS in off-lane 3. Don't be Legacy KekW
@JebusCookies
@JebusCookies 2 года назад
I absolutely love Fan even more after this video. Unique piece of content from the usual daily uploads but more than that it shows that Fan does not only have Pro skills, but Pro ATTITUDE.
@IronJ99
@IronJ99 2 года назад
Fan is an ACE: attitude controls everything. His attitude is always positive, even when rightfully flaming bums.
@sergeisonin
@sergeisonin 2 года назад
Fan, my man, with all due respect I wish you had more dramas like this in Storm League, so that we can have more such reviews which normally you're so reluctant to make. Keep it up, bro 🤝
@waddster7665
@waddster7665 2 года назад
Funny cause its so good for educational purposes
@sergeisonin
@sergeisonin 2 года назад
Exactly
@JorgeTorres-pl7ck
@JorgeTorres-pl7ck 2 года назад
Agreed!,
@Macfierce1
@Macfierce1 2 года назад
hard to have drama when you're the best player in the world. It takes a special kind of ignorant to get mad at Fan. I've had the privilege of playing with him a few times (silver/bronze of course on his ascent up) and he's just flat out amazing. But the play he just showed here... i'm sorry. It isn't better than the crud i play in every day.
@bmoretti89
@bmoretti89 2 года назад
In summary Lucio and Diablo complain that Fan did not carry them because Fan played a character they did not think was the best.
@hrholb1451
@hrholb1451 2 года назад
Exactly this
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
"How do you expect to carry me on this mediocre pick when I'm [[THIS]] heavy? Shame on you!"
@JaakkoKola
@JaakkoKola 2 года назад
As a third party in this, it's actually really helpful to see this sort of things, because as an overly aggressive healer stuck in low silver I've *definitely* done things like this and now it's nice to see someone put into words just what's going on that's wrong about the plays. I'm glad you did this! Maybe I gotta come on the twitch and dono for another dissertation on a game.
@wizbiz1589
@wizbiz1589 2 года назад
Well, yes KTZ is not a good pick here, but I assumed a pro player (Legacy30K) would know where to be in a map. Apparently he doesn't and he is kinda boosted
@crimsonfanzine9341
@crimsonfanzine9341 2 года назад
That Dragonstrike might not have killed the enemy team, but it totally killed me haha
@RbDaP
@RbDaP 2 года назад
actually pissed Fan is a very rare sight but even so, very educational. This is going to be my dinner-time educational video today Edit: so short version KTZ was not the best pick (which is fine, it's SL and not an actual tournament), Lucio played very bad and blamed you like one of my bronze friends do when they 5-stack lose 3 games in a row; diablo was off his element (which i get it, i'm a healer who sometimes has to play tank or bruiser, it sucks) and Xul was doing their best. 2 out of 5 cant carry a team who is literally throwing. I still think high level players should be able to make suboptimal picks work, tho...
@calvin10
@calvin10 2 года назад
I can confirm that i see Faniella more than ranting mode Fan
@RbDaP
@RbDaP 2 года назад
@@calvin10 ranting and salty fan is still better and more classy than me after losing lol
@Merknilash
@Merknilash 2 года назад
It's not that rare Fan goes off like a child whenever he starts feeding. Haven't you seen him just go off on his teammates while he feeds 6-7 deaths on some hero?
@RbDaP
@RbDaP 2 года назад
@@Merknilash it has been a while since I've caught it live, but it doesn't happen all all the time too
@rattusgrenadus8291
@rattusgrenadus8291 2 года назад
@@Merknilash
@raimundasm
@raimundasm 2 года назад
Omg, this VOD analysis taught me more about the game than any game video or CCL commentary that I saw in a year. Really helpful insights about the rotations, positioning, map awareness. For a healer main this VOD analysis is pure treasure. Thank you, Fan.
@sforero305
@sforero305 2 года назад
Heroes being put on maintenance mode is the 2nd worst thing Legacy is going to see on the internet today.
@drummeralex9198
@drummeralex9198 2 года назад
You might be right by Legacy getting hard carried by Kure in CCL. Add Cattle to that too because he’s a beast of a tank.
@hrholb1451
@hrholb1451 2 года назад
100%
@c0n5t4bl3
@c0n5t4bl3 2 года назад
And Liam too. These 3 must have hurting backs every week playing 3v5
@drummeralex9198
@drummeralex9198 2 года назад
@@c0n5t4bl3 Lol! Well at least by now they’re used to it. Backs of steel.
@emmanuelmacedo1095
@emmanuelmacedo1095 Год назад
Aside from the drama, which is regrettable, these game breakdowns help us bronzies. Please make more, pointing out flaws and good play helps everyone. A great service to the community Fan
@justinpouplier9782
@justinpouplier9782 2 года назад
People should trash talk you more often 😅 Maybe not the same for you, but the video was really pleasurable. Thanks for posting it🙏
@heavyhug1098
@heavyhug1098 2 года назад
You should think before saying
@justinpouplier9782
@justinpouplier9782 2 года назад
@@heavyhug1098 What did I do wrong, I dont get it..
@heavyhug1098
@heavyhug1098 2 года назад
@@justinpouplier9782 it is not nice to say something like this!
@justinpouplier9782
@justinpouplier9782 2 года назад
@@heavyhug1098 I agree to the fact that the formulation may not be the best. But at least Fan did get it.
@nv6686
@nv6686 2 года назад
Good content here Fan, would like more videos like this sprinkled into the usual video uploads!
@LesbianWitchAcademia
@LesbianWitchAcademia 2 года назад
The best point you made the entire video was when you said that you're contributing the most to winning while also, admittedly, playing the worst character on your team. Like, Lucio is fucking amazing into that team, and I've seen better Lucios in fucking QM than that CCL player.
@8DayKilla
@8DayKilla 2 года назад
Love the video Fan, I think you should do more of these breakdown videos. Legacy is clearly trolling in this game and was tilted from the start of the match. He is a better player than he is in this game. Shameful that he is talking behind your back while clearly displaying bronze level gameplay. I also find it funny the hate you get from "donation picks" is accepted as a good reason to troll. There is no agreement between you and your teammates this ain't a tournament or youre playing as a group. The real hate should come from the afkers, intentional dying and so on.
@chronopolize_jp
@chronopolize_jp 2 года назад
yeah he seems tilted to hell. weak mental attitude or just fking around.
@SpaghettiNoob
@SpaghettiNoob 2 года назад
You had me at a 52 minute upload babyyy! Seriously though Fan, you don't need this stress. The replay analysis was top notch. I thought you had for the most part a very respectful rebuttal and demonstrated the issues clearly and took responsibility when it came to you. Not many people do this, I hope MSFT brings this game back with a prize pool so you can have a team or compete again.
@firstnamelastname5310
@firstnamelastname5310 2 года назад
Lucio is a good hero. But it always seems like there is some sort of lucio syndrome, where they are thinking "oh im lucio, ive got so much movement available they cant possibly catch and kill me" and just skates into the enemy team by themselves and gets obliterated. Some people resist the urge, some don't. Yeah ktz wasnt the best pick, but its not like its 5 deathwings and they are permanently unstoppable. Its possible to play around their unstops/dodges, if ktz is the only one causing them to have to use those, theres a problem. And dragonstrike is just so bad. It goes for a ways before it activates, its slow, and unless they are in the middle, it doesnt do much damage. Honestly its worse than lava wave. Its only kinda saving grace is the 20 cdr upgrade. Whenever I see it, it only amounts to a mild inconvenience.
@talictdf4757
@talictdf4757 2 года назад
Lucio syndrome is definitely a state of mind in which you believe you can make insane plays while doing everything else right when in reality you try to make plays all the time while forgetting to heal your team. That's some drama worthy of gold rank SL ^_^
@chronopolize_jp
@chronopolize_jp 2 года назад
Yeah, any hero with mobility or tankiness has that. Just because you CAN technically run at someone to 1v1, doesn't mean you SHOULD. D strike is unreliable even in plat, and even if you fire it at good times it gets strictly worse if the opponents play decently at all.
@interimchanger
@interimchanger 2 года назад
winning ccl seems like it provides the absolute worst kind of big fish small pond ego boost where you get to claim that you're the best in the world when almost none of the stakes that actually made people want to be the best exist anymore got some big "won my company's intramural basketball league so imma go yell at some retired nba players at the pickup game" vibes
@drummeralex9198
@drummeralex9198 2 года назад
It’s hilarious you say that because that debate’s been made and NBA players say the same thing. “Take the worst NBA player who averages .5 points per game nd match him up against anyone NOT in the nba, and the scrub NBA player will win. The reaction time, instincts, and game knowledge are so above everyone else. Now imagine someone outside the NBA playing against a top 5 NBA player.”
@interimchanger
@interimchanger 2 года назад
the funny thing is that with ccl ending it’s like your company stopped supporting your intramural league because not enough people wanted to play and you’re still on this bs
@quthai
@quthai 2 года назад
Hi again Fan. You know I wrote about what "you" could do better to carry under the original game video but I was watching only YOUR movements there. After watching this Lucio's movements I want to apologize lol. This dude can't be carried. IF YOU LEAVE 4 MAN AS HEALER TO HELP SOLO LANE YOU ARE GOLD 5. That's it. No excuse under any circumstance. I don't buy that he decided to lose the game from min 1 just because you picked a suboptimal hero. I don't buy that he was trolling. He is LEGIT BAD.
@FanHOTS
@FanHOTS 2 года назад
No need to apologize everyone can improve their play including me and your suggestions were made in that direction which is fine. My only thing was I was not particularly trying to play at 100%, and I felt like it was not only KTZ that lost the game. I definitely could have played better as well on KTZ like you mentioned though.
@michaelcole8934
@michaelcole8934 2 года назад
This is wholesome all round 🥰
@hoelzer597
@hoelzer597 2 года назад
Favorite video to date. Absolutely loved you sticking up for yourself in this way.
@SharpShot501st
@SharpShot501st 2 года назад
@ 33:20 I was diamond in Siege when it first came out, I had to sit down and learn to game and review my own game play and understand it. When I played football this was called reviewing film. It's the same thing for competitive video games. I use to be a silver player during season 2 in Overwatch. I sat down and started learning the game. I made it all the way to GM as a flex player. I played everything. I could play everything, but I sat down and would review my matches after a stream or recording session because I didn't want to just be good. I wanted to be the best that I could. A lot of people WANT to be good, but they don't put the effort into it. TL:DR if you want to be GM, study like a GM and you can do it.
@kalvenhaar1196
@kalvenhaar1196 2 года назад
Loved the analysis. The mic drop at the end was pure joy.
@Tybbah
@Tybbah 2 года назад
Thats how you roast someone with class ladies and gentleman. A true role model indeed.
@onenof10
@onenof10 2 года назад
I'd love to get Kure's review of this vid.
@hako8358
@hako8358 2 года назад
Kure is usually salty about Fan playing donation requests. Tbf to him, he said on Leon's stream that "Both were at fault. You can't expect your teammates to try hard when you have a troll pick. But you can't flame others when you play bad yourself." or something like that.
@FanHOTS
@FanHOTS 2 года назад
Yes the key flaw to kure's argument there is I never expected them to try hard. I didn't type a single thing the entire game even while they were doing random stuff. I only defended myself when they said KTZ is the only reason for the loss, which is clearly not true. Also kure cant review this because this is his teammate so he would be biased and also potentially lower his chance to win if he tilts his teammate even more so it is very much against his interests to do so.
@bazookaward3859
@bazookaward3859 2 года назад
Fan just said this man is the most Replaceable player on the team. Get any good/decent healer who can follow instructions and they would still win. Love this kind of content. You learn so much.
@SafeTea
@SafeTea 2 года назад
Fan you're the absolute best . I'm sure you'd be this passionate and still fair in any game you play . thank you for the endless content.
@osogarra3968
@osogarra3968 2 года назад
We love you fan. The breakdown was gold
@jackeagleeye3453
@jackeagleeye3453 2 года назад
I've been watching Fan for many years and he's been a blast to watch. I almost always learn somethin from the videos and I feel like his content attracts a base of players to the game.
@ggd2mf603
@ggd2mf603 2 года назад
an hour of lucio roasting himself... delightful. diamond lucio main here, he went quest at lvl 1 and hes never with team. major mistake. Im just in awe at high gms play like this and have the audacity to talk trash.
@EtherFox
@EtherFox 2 года назад
Toxic trash syndrome is common at high levels and other things. "Either you play the way I want, or I will make us lose."
@misterd7009
@misterd7009 2 года назад
The rant is fire! I really like this kind of content too.
@p.p.wienersson
@p.p.wienersson 2 года назад
The notion that CCL players are top tier is just laughable. Props to Fan for pointing that out to more people
@liorzaphir5358
@liorzaphir5358 2 года назад
Then whos top tier? Highest gms? Who would you say are good competetive players right now considering ccl is the only running "league"
@stimutacss
@stimutacss 2 года назад
@@nahadoth2087 average player still playing HotS only plays ARAM lol.
@Macfierce1
@Macfierce1 2 года назад
I loved this fan. Good job. So many people call everyone out and don't even realize they're doing the wrong shit
@Floydee12
@Floydee12 2 года назад
Love you man, keep it up, you speak sense every time I watch one of your vids.
@ralphradford8822
@ralphradford8822 2 года назад
Much respect Fan!! Enjoy your content, keep it coming!!
@D3moknight
@D3moknight 2 года назад
I haven't really been following CCL at all, so I wasn't sure I bought into all your trash talk about CCL not being at the same level as the HGL. After seeing this and some of the backstory about CCL, I am super convinced. I think your mechanical skill on KTZ put you AT LEAST on equal footing with the other team, if your teammates played even at diamond level or better. This is Bronze ARAM stagger all game territory. Legacy deserves what's coming after this.
@JaysonBailey
@JaysonBailey 2 года назад
what's coming?
@FanHOTS
@FanHOTS 2 года назад
I think CCL is a good community supported effort and I don't have any negativity towards the league itself(Maybe some of the players when they behave like this video though). You might have heard me say HGC level > CCL level and that is not me trying to put down CCL but rather just stating what I think is fact. HGC prize pool per year was ~5Million I believe, while CCL prize pool is maybe ~20-30k. Imagine you have 2 identical job openings, and 1 pays 250x more than the other. Which job will have the higher skilled applicants? It's just how the world runs.
@anglach3l
@anglach3l 2 года назад
@@FanHOTS there’s that economics degree! It paid off!
@michalsimecek6609
@michalsimecek6609 2 года назад
Naisu. I was waiting for another episode of rant. Last ep on yt was like when old exodia was still exodia
@vashviper9346
@vashviper9346 Год назад
Huge ammount of respect for you Fan. Honestly you are the only reason I keep coming back to HoTs, genuinely you are the most positive part of what little remains of this community, and seriously, screw these arrogant new players who only tunnel vision, point a finger and ree just because you didn't pick the 100% most optimal character.
@badrapsample2212
@badrapsample2212 2 года назад
i enjoyed listening to this in the background. by all means make more
@panzerldr5724
@panzerldr5724 2 года назад
This is so hilarious cuz I just had an incredibly similar game, except without the drafting issues. We had an incredibly solid comp, with only one worrying pick on the enemy side. Game looks super winnable from the get-go. Malth double soaking top and mid, me on Valla with Rehgar and Junkrat. And we have Johanna... trying to triple soak globes... all game. Never had a 4man until it's way too late and we're 3 levels down from losing every fight.
@wirefrost3287
@wirefrost3287 2 года назад
Abathur: legacY30K reputation fully destroyed, weak player.
@TheIFunnyMan
@TheIFunnyMan 2 года назад
This is why we love Fan
@stevecisneros6825
@stevecisneros6825 2 года назад
What i don't understand is why anybody who still playing HOTS would blame fan for a lose??? I mean even if you are GM #1 how can you think Fan is the problem? He has insane skills even when he is chilling, imagine trying to win the game just to keep the good experience for the guy who is taking this game so serious....hopefully he watches this and get feet on the ground. Great masterclass Fan and get better soon
@ndirda
@ndirda 2 года назад
Fan I love your content, sometimes the saltiness brings out your funniest stuff
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
It's essentially like those videos of innocent people being provoked by some asshole until they knock the attacker out cold. It's cathartic to watch a pro who is otherwise a gentle giant be harassed until he stomps the aggressor.
@LTDextel
@LTDextel Год назад
When I was getting into Dota I would check my replays and study them with my roommates to figure out what I was doing wrong. It helped me so much. And I got that thought process from Fan
@Jaze2022
@Jaze2022 2 года назад
Great video, one of the most enjoyable
@Juanaponymous
@Juanaponymous 2 года назад
He actually did it, the madman!
@yawo83
@yawo83 2 года назад
Wow that was a good lesson. Thank for the video 😀
@nathanael2572
@nathanael2572 2 года назад
I would say that negativity like Legacy's can safely be ignored, though of course this is very difficult. But thank you for this video, it is a *fantastic* reminder that execution + attitude are more important than draft, and also to watch one's replays critically!
@chronopolize_jp
@chronopolize_jp 2 года назад
Shows you the huge difference between fan and legacy. Game knowledge and mentality/player experience. Fan's team just defeated themselves mentally tilting on fan's ktz's pick. This kind of thing applies equally to average gold game too. If you tunnel on some sub-optimalness by others you'll never notice your own mistakes and improve.
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
This is why I revere Fan. I think I've never seen the guy tilt. He does get salty but I have never seen him take his hands off his keyboard and just give up, except when his team is obviously trolling. And even then, he's not throwing and trying to lose, he's just taking his foot off the gas. Comparing this to myself, I notice how much I suck as a human, in terms of attitude. This level of stubborn patience and level-headedness is something I wish I had. I get tilted at comparably minor grievances. Even when I'm trying to stay cool, I notice my game goes out of whack. I've watched replays of myself where I could SEE my tilt in my actions without ever saying anything in chat. I can feel myself playing poorly if I'm angry. This dude watches his team troll like mad and stays in place until the bitter end. And this is not the first game of his where he has done so. Guy is an absolute Terminator who will continue playing and winning regardless of how much you try to seduce him to the dark side. It's admirable and highly respectable and I wish I had that power.
@Norbingel
@Norbingel 2 года назад
I only play QM and it's a regular occurrence for players in a team that repeatedly goes 3v5, down a talent, and bad positioning to blame "team comp". Guess I'm CCL level now.
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
You still need to find a former HGC pro and tell them you're better than them, otherwise it doesn't count.
@maybe3xcesive742
@maybe3xcesive742 2 года назад
I never understood his choosing of the name "Legacy" until now. His legacy is 0 self awareness, baby rage, and bringing the circus everywhere he goes 🤡 💀
@ola5242
@ola5242 2 года назад
You're the best Hots commentator now.
@queenbrightwingthe3890
@queenbrightwingthe3890 2 года назад
Its always the trash players who complain the hardest while feeding the most. Lucio was trash.
@Zenetor
@Zenetor 2 года назад
i check almost all our video but i would love 1 time each week or 2 week those type of video to have more indept of what did goes wrong and what should have been done by a pro player like you! You just dont understand how much that video showed a lot more info then just you playing when you have done this video! Keep have fun fan!
@adamhubbert8896
@adamhubbert8896 Год назад
Fan tanking tower shots on KTZ to save his life and he just stood there auto attacking 3v5.
@laszlotorok3593
@laszlotorok3593 5 месяцев назад
I dont even know when was the last time I saw Fan this mad
@Shiro-eq2ds
@Shiro-eq2ds 2 года назад
Legacy is one of those players hyped a lot by ccl casters. idk man, I always remember CPX doing eu bronze - grandmaster, he had to party up with Yasu (which was on a glod acc) so he could actually win plat games. brah, ccl is a joke at this moment in time.
@sneakjester919
@sneakjester919 2 года назад
Grab the popcorn!
@raymondrodgers5832
@raymondrodgers5832 8 месяцев назад
Lucio wanted to gank top all early game. Lucio is not a gank hero; no cc and no damage. And Lunara is hard to gank. Literally providing no value to the team. If I was heading that ccl team, I would drop him.
@Linhares155
@Linhares155 2 года назад
this is why I don't watch CCL, feels like an extension of storm league with comms. The level is so low that a ccl player with the strongest healer in the game plays worse than Fan streaming casually with the worst mage in the game.
@JDDELAMIGO
@JDDELAMIGO 2 года назад
Nelomee would be so proud of that Lucio
@Lizaeus
@Lizaeus 2 года назад
I was waiting for you to yell "Tu Mama!"
@alejandrobernal1779
@alejandrobernal1779 2 года назад
Hahahaha
@dallinlambert3484
@dallinlambert3484 Год назад
fans a legend, keep it up champ
@jordanclark5608
@jordanclark5608 Год назад
I count only two cleanses on their team brightwing's trait which is a 100 or 120 second cooldown (cant remember which one) and lunara's level 13 (I didn't see if she picked that) Johanna did not take falling sword, so that's two cleanses at most.
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
Dehaka E Johanna D Lunara R Maiev D You're thinking of cleansing someone else but there is also self-cleanses. Get hit by a chain, burrow, chain is gone.
@InquisitionL6
@InquisitionL6 2 года назад
Your commentary and the complaints about your dono picks are funny. A lot of his gameplay and whining reminds me of FromSoft controversy which have people crying because people are so adverse to difficulty. You're in GM, you have recordings of you literally climbing to multiple masters/GM placements with those "bad picks". Sure it makes the game difficult, but it's fun and entertaining to see how skill, and actually trying to win makes those wins satisfying. But lo and behold, some people are so delusional they would argue that GOATs team comps are the only way to play despite how boring and dumb it makes the game as a whole. You're also totally right you have no obligation to them to play the game their way, especially when you're basically one of the handful of streamers keeping a healthy pop for HOTS for them to even have a job.
@lelaartemon6275
@lelaartemon6275 2 года назад
Fan is 2 op 2 play op heroes. So ktz was balanced.
@fallen2205
@fallen2205 2 года назад
I'm getting a "translate to english" youtube note on your comment :D top
@Lordofthelosers01
@Lordofthelosers01 2 года назад
The Lucio player was playing like a first timer who saw a best of compilation of Lucio. I'll give him some leeway regarding the wall riding because Lucio's one of the few heroes that utilizes the geography but as a healing character why is he so far away from the team? A couple of his plays looked like he just wanted to show off expert moves rather than playing his role. I can't say what was going on in the players heads but judging from the plays I would say the Lucio gave up on the game as soon as it started, Diablo gave up around the 2nd or 3rd time Lucio left him hanging, and Hanzo gave up when he saw the Diablo commit to a 3v5.
@aaaaaaxaaaaaa
@aaaaaaxaaaaaa 2 года назад
Legacy was regularly outclassed by other healers on high ping from Europe. So bad.
@jupitermonkey5687
@jupitermonkey5687 2 года назад
I'd argue that 3rd missed dragonsrtrike from hanzo was lucio's fault. He used it right after using his other abilities and while lunara was getting chained and bw and dehaka were in range too. I bet he didn't expect lucio to save lunara and give them a way out by dying and removing the only hero who can stop them from running away.
@blusafe1
@blusafe1 2 года назад
No, it's Hanzo's fault for picking strike. Arrow is faster and more consistent.
@diegodevitti2105
@diegodevitti2105 2 года назад
also he dragonstriked into the fort, not on the sides were he could also block a way out or restrict more their movement.
@rollsreus2149
@rollsreus2149 2 года назад
“Little fly on the wall.” hehe 😅
@anruyanshiju636
@anruyanshiju636 Год назад
When I see beefy tanks, they're too juicy to not pick Malthael. They don't have Malfurion or Lili who can heal over time so Reaper's Mark can dmg over time and melt the tanks. Last Rites can kill through Jo's shield and Dehaka is a crap front liner tank if Jo gets popped. With fountain close to obj, Malthael can top up mana when need and just keep poking and melting the tanks.
@SecsyBadboy
@SecsyBadboy 2 года назад
Fan is right Diablo, Lucio and Hanzo how do they get to 3 diamonds they should be in bronze players to learn more about
@TheLordJenkins
@TheLordJenkins 2 года назад
I would say something like this: there is something tilting when a teammate drafts a "bad" hero/role because you get the feeling he doesn't give a shit about the team and that you are at a disadvantage from the start. The thing is that your team knows it's Fan that is playing, and Fan is getting top GM every season even while doing crazy dono requests and picking "bad" heroes, so even if he picks a bad hero there is still a good chance to win. Sometimes I would get flamed by my team for picking Haymaker on muradin, like I know that's like a tier C ultimate, but I also know how to use it and how to play muradin without picking avatar. So even if we lost a team fight or even the game doesn't automatically make it my fault.
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
I think that's a huge point you're making. When I'm in SL Gold and I pick Nova, my team doesn't know if I'm competent or not. Same when I see a Butcher first-pick, I'm instantly thinking we probably lose this. Still going to try to make it work but it's like a 1:9 chance. But if I know that this is the world's best Butcher player with insane skills and reputation, I'd probably just shut up and see what the master is going to dish out. Hell, I even do that when there is an obvious smurf account, even though most smurfs suck stupidly hard. How they can KNOW this is one of the top players in the universe and still tilt their balls off over a mediocre hero pick is beyond me. The only explanation I have is that they think THEY are the best player in the universe and pretty much on the same level as an HGC pro, which is ludicrous if you think about it. Bit like saying I am the fastest at my school, Olympic runners ain't got shit on me.
@chitahitsu4743
@chitahitsu4743 2 года назад
dont you miss the days of HGC, with ACTUAL Pros and Teams like Ballistix/L5, MVP Black/Gen.G, Fnatic, Dignitas, TS etc . Really pissed off at blizzard for cancelling it out of the blue, but we all know what they have become.
@allandeir6473
@allandeir6473 2 года назад
Damn. Legacy's legacy has been exposed.
@user-tz9vt2gp4e
@user-tz9vt2gp4e 2 года назад
legacy such a joke in this game
@haramberinokripperino7770
@haramberinokripperino7770 2 года назад
The entire team was a 5 man unstoppable and cleanse. Without kt that forces them to use cleanses every 5 seconds they would have engaged every fight even easier. That diablo wasn’t that good but he had the worst enemies to face
@ernabro2723
@ernabro2723 2 года назад
52 minutes holy shit
@tehjoch
@tehjoch 2 года назад
Tnx for such a video. I often am going to solo lane as tank or healer, because we have nobody soaking. especially when we're a talent tier down.... so now I wonder if I should stop doing that and take bad fights instead?
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Год назад
While soak is important, tank and heal should generally not go catch it. Exceptions apply. If you have a high waveclear hero like Johanna or Mei, you can go to a lane, clear it and leave. If your team is doing camps early, you can take over a lane. Brightwing can stay in the remote lane and teleport to her team when needed. But generally, don't leave your team. My reasoning is this: • Soak is important for getting advantage over your opponent. The soak game is like a series of footsteps you take before you even start hitting each other in the face. Having good footing is important. If you get a talent advantage, you have better footing and the fight will be easier for you. You have the high ground. • Your team is very very bad. Evidence: Nobody is soaking. • This means your team is bad enough to feed. Evidence: They can't even soak, so they 100% don't check their map, the level counter, death timers or cooldowns. • This means they WILL feed. You always assume the other team is not bad. • Any soak advantage you get will be nullified by your team feeding. Also, XP advantage was there to help you win the fight, but your team already throws it, so footing doesn't matter if your team hits itself in the face. • Be with your team even if it's stupid to be there on a global scale. Because you change the almost 100% chance of losing into a 50% chance. As your team brawls like idiots, they have the chance of catching someone with their wild swings and haymakers and accidentally winning the fight. Soaking matters ONLY if your team can make USE of advantages. If your team cannot by default make use of advantages, getting advantages doesn't help. So your top priority is keeping the team alive in the first place and trying to get a favorable outcome in the brawl. If your opponent is both more competent in the macro game and in the fight, they deserve the win anyway. But chances are, they are not good enough and your presence will make a greater impact. It's a bit like draft. Picking good heroes, picking a meta comp with tank, heal, dps, flex, offlane is positive in that it gives you +20% chance to win or something. But that tiny advantage is negated by people playing at a third of their expected skill. So don't be anal about draft in low SL. And don't try to gain the macro advantages if it comes at the expense of not babysitting your team. If your team plays reasonably well, you can totally take over the offlane for a while. But if you know they will feed to the first enemy hero walking their way, better to stay with them. *TL;DR: Take bad fights with team if team still alive.*
@BlackBearInvesting
@BlackBearInvesting 2 года назад
After carefully reviewing this video I changed my mind. It is Fan’s fault. You would think that after 20k hours of playing the game Fan should know that expecting anyone to understand 4>3 in Hots is foolish. It’s time to grow up and face that fact that it doesn’t matter the level of players, without voice comms 3 will never be < 4.
@giulianobianchi8015
@giulianobianchi8015 2 года назад
I hope the Lucio player has a look at this
@DaweSlayer
@DaweSlayer 2 года назад
U know you are trolling, serious storm leaguers don't watch replays. They are too good for that.
@scottstorchfan
@scottstorchfan 2 года назад
CCL is a good initiative I guess but it’s so incest. Everyone playing a small player pool knowing eachother in and out. And everyone think they are hot shit. I was watching the Cloud 9 team DK from 2015 the other day and the level of skill and entertainment was just another level.
@blusafe1
@blusafe1 2 года назад
"good old days" :*(
@BlackBearInvesting
@BlackBearInvesting 2 года назад
Funny you mention that game. Imagine only playing tier s heroes ;)
@scottstorchfan
@scottstorchfan 2 года назад
@@nahadoth2087 you mean other than having one whole other continent in the player pool?
@LodvarDude
@LodvarDude 2 года назад
The Diablo and the Lucio was obviously throwing and trolling. These players should be forced to sit the next round of CCL on the bench. Too bad the LAN was canceled, would be hilarious if they had to sit that one out.
@leeroyjenks
@leeroyjenks 2 года назад
TLDW for anyone that is turned off by the warning for long video: Fan explains that he is joining CCL.
@dudubungles9679
@dudubungles9679 Месяц назад
Casual reminder kids, rank can sometimes mean nothing.
@SpaghettiNoob
@SpaghettiNoob 2 года назад
Is the video for this game posted?
@moor532
@moor532 2 года назад
Yes, it has been uploaded the day before, here you go: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KnuB2O7xCd4.html
@rankothefiremage
@rankothefiremage Год назад
I'm a Plat quality support player, Lucio vs Lunara, Lunara should be hard counter if the Lucio has a brain
@Gumden
@Gumden 2 года назад
Do we have Lucio's response?
@DeuceGenius
@DeuceGenius Год назад
you hero choice is your own. once its locked in do your best with it. play the game out right or dont play it at all.
@zhargidabeoulve
@zhargidabeoulve 4 месяца назад
That 16:37 point where Lucio goes back top for some fucking reason spells troll to me.
@Anch54321
@Anch54321 Год назад
I get it when bronze silver and gold flames Fan, but Jesus fucking christ way to be in the wrong flaming Fan as a master player.
@липролл
@липролл 2 года назад
LOOOOONG FACTS!
@Wholesome_Fries
@Wholesome_Fries 2 года назад
Fan trolling is next level XD
@BlackBearInvesting
@BlackBearInvesting 2 года назад
Why would you play a video game for free when you can play a game for $10+? Jealousy is the best form of flattery. There’s a reason Legacy can’t stream and take dono requests and it’s not because he’s too good at all heroes ;)
@Fabian-kg9lb
@Fabian-kg9lb 2 года назад
Classic lucio player thinking he is tracer
@misterspencer4139
@misterspencer4139 2 года назад
Yo Fan, heard you got the rona. Hope you pull through alright.
@jenesesenriquez1248
@jenesesenriquez1248 Год назад
Fan your the best
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