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Well-done presentation! I recently took delivery of my 50mm f/1 Nokton, plus a 21mm f/1.4 Nokton, part of my plan to conrtinue to postpone acquiring an expensive M10 Monochrom, by feeding more light to the M Type 246 sensor, as another hot Texas summer means more low-light shooting.
Nice review. I was about to pull the trigger on the Voigtländer Nokton 1.0, but I went with the Voigtländer Nokton 1.2 instead. I's almost as fast, comparable optical performance wide open, same ability to isolate subjects, maybe even more since the minimum focus distance is 0.7 meters, it's less heavy, less bulky and easier to focus. And it's half the price!
@@crayon2323 Dollar for dollar it's much better than any Leica lens. That's the whole point of buying a Voigtlaender. Their Apo lenses are 99.9999% of what Leica APO lenses offer - at a fraction of the price. Same with the Noctilux lenses.
I have both Noktons. On the 50/1.2: I learned to not code it as a 50/1.2 Noctilux. The latter shows pronounced barrel distortion. The Nokton has slight pin-cushion distortion. SO- the the Noctilux correction is applied to the Nokton, you get severe pin-cushion.
@@weisserthWithout test equipment at home, our judging lens performance is subjective (which is fine, because after all, we use lenses to create images, not MTF charts). I haven’t yet tested any of the Voigtländer APO VM lenses (I will get the 50 & 90), I can say that their wide angle non-APO lenses (15 mm Heliar, 21 mm Color Skopar, 35 mm Nokton Classic), were not as good image-quality (IQ) wise as my Leica WATE-M 16-18-21 or Summilux-M 35 FLE v1. At the time, I was more into IQ than “character”, so I sold those Voigtländer lenses. I might pick a few up again, to take advantage of their signature looks.
They just got this in Z mount so i'm saving up for it. Can't wait! Thanks for all the info on it, i'm currently loving their 58 f1.4 adapted to my Z6. Must be a nice fit to try the 50 in its native mount.
Bought mine 2 months ago for my Leica M-A and boy… it’s my best M lens so far. I love thick lenses (not long) and this one is perfect. I sold the Nokton 1.5 ii Cuz it’s too small for me. The F1 sleeps on my m-a. The film images are just gorgeous. 3D pop as you said is there. It’s my daily driver for people (friends/family). Thanks
@@crispin8888 No, not at all. I had like 97% hit rate. I had to practice a lot and I used a 1.4x magnifier too. At first I was always doubting in my head if I nailed it, but after a while I stopped doubting and just kept going. All negatives came out great. Practice practice practice practice
@@michaelfloyd3651 Gets a bit in the way of the rangefinder. Manual focus wide open with this shallow depth of field contains some practice, a good pair of eyes and a bit of luck now and then. Using the EVF or back screen (for quick shots) definitely makes it easier 👍🏼
interesting, to me it looks nothing like the Canon 50/0.95. the Canon has that older double-gauss bokeh with sharp edges around the specular highlights, a huge spherical aberration, almost swirling to the edges. the Voigtlander has none of that.
I was mostly referring to the how the lens itself looks like. Although I agree with your assessment on how the Canon captures photos, there is a lot of variation with the Canon lenses as the technology at that time did not allow for the same level of standardization of photo results.
The .95 TT is no slouch, it holds up competitively against the Noctilux. This new Nokton is absolutely in its own league, I’d highly suggest trying it out. Cheers!
@@arthurpeterson5273 Yeah seems that way. I have not held the new voigtlander yet but I think I'm going to make the purchase soon for all the reasons laid out in this video. I want something more modern on my M3 for occasions when I'm not using the summicron 5cm.
Nice review. I just picked up a Leica Noctilux-M 50 mm f/1.0 for use with my M11, SL2, and CL (a 1.5x crop sensor camera). I’m looking forward to putting it through its paces, but a few test shots suggest that the depth of field is very tight wide open.
Nice to meet you, suika.d! I see you're considering the TTArtisan 50mm f0.95 and the Nokton 50mm f1 lenses for portrait photography of people and dogs. Both lenses have great bokeh and subject separation. Your cameras are the Leica typ262 and M3. The typ262 doesn't support the Visoflex and the M3 requires precise focusing through the viewfinder. You're a bit concerned about the size of both lenses on the Leica M, but you find the Nokton 50mm f1 easier to operate. In terms of overall performance, focusing, handling, and color rendition, which lens do I recommend?
How does this lens compare to the Nokton 1.2 asph ? I am testing the 1.2 out on rental and I'm impressed with it. It's 900 US (without hood I presume) which is half the price of the 1.0 and a bit lighter. Have not tried the 1.0.
This Voigtlander lens obviously does not bring up an "Lens Profile" in the Leica M10 or M10-R cameras, but perhaps you could manually compensate by selecting the profile for the Leica f/1.0 Noctilux or f/0.95 Noctilux or, if those prove too drastic, the f/1.4 Summilux.
It is an f/1, so by definition it is as wide as it is long ;-). But I know what you mean…. I’m not sure how much time you spent with the Noctilux but it takes time to learn it’s strengths and weaknesses. For example, you can’t expect to put things in the corners of the frame and expect them to stay in focus…
This lens definitely challenges the status quo of ultra fast prime lenses with it’s outright performance. However I think I prefer the “bokeh glob” that the Noctilux produces if I wanted to talk about rendering first. The size and cost differences definitely make for another argument. Feel free to check out my two videos on the Noctilux if you haven’t already!
My personal opinion, as the owner of 0.95, etc., if you are looking for individuality, it is better to use the old Noct 1.0 or Canon. Or the Chinese Noctilux - because of the price.
After getting the Summilux 50mm f1.4 ASPH V!! I'm done with Leica glass and the overrated price. Most of their lenses will not suit high MP cameras like the M10 or M11 which is what I Use, and after using some of the voightlanders, they can resolve more details than some of the Leica lenses that were designed exclusively for film. Even the Summilux 50 f1.4 V2 still has the old optical formula with closer focusing distance which add more softness and CA to your image. Voigtlander for me moving forward for my M10 and M11
Hi Andrew. By any chance would you review the Light Lens Lab 8 Elements 35mm F2? It’s a clone of the first 35mm Summicron that has garnered popularity among enthusiasts.
I really really REALLY REEEEEEEEALLY wanted to be able to justify the expense of this lens but to me the bokeh is just ... for want of a better word ... "nervous" - I"m not sure if that's the "bokeh fringing" or CA but it's like an Andy Warhol scene with a shadow-type image to it. I don't see it in all photos but when I see it, I can't un-see it. Which is a shame because, like I say, I was hoping to be able to justify the expense (even though it's an MF lens). But thanks for taking the time to make this review - very helpful :)
dude.. thats insane.. I had the noctilux with my sl2s and I loved the look, but I ultimately sold it and was afraid to ever use it lol. I have found the sumilux to be a more usable lens anyways.
Greetings, which lens has earned your most glowing endorsement? Noctilux M 50mm f0.95 - TTArtisans 50mm f0.95 OR the Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1.0 asph vm. Thank you
Hi Andrew, Thanks very much for this very informative review. I like listening to your reflexions, so I left you a subscription and a like. My question is whether you've had a chance to use the Nokton 1.0 on film. Probably you're an exclusive digital shooter though, aren't you? I just thought that a lens like this could nicely supplement the Summicron 50 DR I'm using with my M2. But maybe it'd be an additional treat rather than a meaningful addition anyway.
Thanks for the support, I actually shoot more film for personal work and I did in fact mount it on my M2 and M3. I wanted to get this review out sooner than later and I didn’t bother including the film shots. It’s 3D qualities and contrast worked magically on XP2 400. If you’re a bw shooter this really would be a stunning lens to pair with your M2.
@@GenericPhotographer Wow thank you! I'm indeed primarily a bw shooter with M2 on 35 and a Linhof Master Technika on LF. I'll seriously consider getting one of these once they're available. Here in Berlin they're still on preorder at the moment.
Thanks for watching! They roll out gradually. I’m assuming the profile will drop by the end of the year. In any case the apo nor this lens will really benefit much from their profiles other than slight distortion correction and vignetting. CA correction could help but the slider is just as effective.
It’ll have to be the lux. The f1 nokton is a great lens for work, producing effortlessly beautiful photos, but I still prefer the Lux as a total package.
I have both (and 40 f/1.2 Nokton). They are similar. The f/1 is slightly sharper at both 1 & 1.2, it also has significantly more vignetting. Both have wonderful pop and beautiful rendering wide open. Fair to say the 50 f/1.2 is easily the sweet spot at half the price and smaller size, but my f/1 is going nowhere and I love it.
Good sir, I am a subscriber to your channel and I have a question - your answer to which I am hopeful will solve my dilemma. Simply put, if you could only have one - Leica Noctilux 50 f0.95, f1.2, Summilux 50 f1.4 or the Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1, which would you select? And why? And I already own the Noct 50 1.2, and the 75 1.25 - but a Noct fan. I’m also considering the 35 f1.4 FLE II, but I’m not really a 35 guy. Continued happiness and success to you and yours. Be Blessed. Chaplain US Navy
My old 50mm 1.1 also had an black inner ring, so it may be a Nokton thing (My other 35mm 1.2 Nokton is the limited edition chrome model so I don't know when Cosina switched to black inner rings with some of their superfast Noktons, the 1.4's I know have chrome ones). It never bothered me because I my old Leica M8 pretty much requires an hot mirror filter if shooting color.
Great review! Do you have any DNG files to share of portraits around 1-3m distance? I am keen on seeing why the lens produced. I will be thankful is you can share :)
A real superb review of what is clearly an amazing lens. Haha, u could hardly stop smiling; and that in itself is a wonderful comment on the lens. But you also talked about the Cons of the lens, which seemed pretty minor given its Pro’s. I hv to say it looked as if it was made for the Leica; which ofc it was, but some of those long Summicron lens looked totally unsuitable and to my mind spoilt part of the compact and lite appeal of the M11. // Thks, hv Sub’d.
What do you mean by “this is like a 80mm f/1.4“ like the look and effect of a certain aperture value doesn’t change depending on the field of view, does it?
The depth of field is similar. Divide the focal length and aperture of each and they’re pretty close. Obviously there’s more compression with a more telephoto lens, however the challenge of focusing is quite similar between the two.
It’ll rock on the Sony. Just be ready for decreased corner performance. If you get a voigtlander close focus adapter you’ll be able to bypass the minimum focus distance too!
All of these large-body, f/0.95 to f/1.0 50mm lenses will block part of what we see through the viewfinder. We cannot change the laws of physics. This Nokton f/1.0 will, indeed, block part of the viewfinder, including a substantial portion that is inside the 50mm frame lines, but, to be fair, we should compare it to such lenses as the Noctiluxes, not to the smaller 50mm lenses, with smaller maximum aperture settings. For example, the f/0.95 Noctulux, and this f/1.0 Nokton, have virtually identical diameters, but the Noctilux is 75.1mm in length, while the Nokton is 55mm in length. I do not need to put pencil to paper, to realize that the f/0.95 Noctilux will probably block somewhat more of the viewfinder. The Noctilux also weighs substantially more than this Nokton. It was the Summilux-M 50mm ASPH that first drew me into adding the Leica M system. Later I added a 50mm Summicron, for the times I wanted something a bit smaller, and did not need the faster aperture, or other optical qualities of the Summilux. Later, I added an Elmar-M 50mm lens, for the times when maximum compactness was important. (All acquired pre-owned, in order to spend much fewer US dollars.) Finally, I allowed myself the luxury of buying a new 50mm M-mount lens, and decided that it would be this “Halo” lens, from Voigtlander. This Nokton does not replace or displace any of my other 50mm lenses; each has its role. In addition to its optical qualities, my Nokton directs another stop of light, into my older M cameras, which seemed to be a better fiscal decision than acquiring an M10-R or M10 Monochrom.
Hi Andrew! I just want to ask about your opinion on this one and TTartisan 50mm f/0.95 If you looked closely to the photos created by these lenses ? Which one is closer to the noctilux 0.95 look? The TTArtisan or the Voigtlander? Since i want to get the Noctilux look without breaking my bank 😂 Thankyou so much, Andrew! 😁
Hey! Thanks for the comment! The Voigtlander has the contrast and, dare I say, outperforms the Noctilux in sharpness. It’s circumstantial when it comes to bokeh, the TT has better bokeh imho, but the separation isn’t as 3D as either Noct. I’d go for the voigtlander budget permitting, it’s got that glassy look that the Noctilux has, the bokeh can be a little more busy at times but it’s a remarkable lens with lovely character.
@@GenericPhotographer I’ll take the voigtlander then since it’s better than the TTArtisan in overall IQ. Thankyou sooo much for the information, Andrew! It helped me a lot with the buying decision. 😁
@@GenericPhotographer i recently bought one and very happy with the result, also OMG! It is so small compared to my 50 GM 😂 the sharpness is incredible yet it retains the characteristics of the lens at f/1. Totally worth the price. Thankyou for your recommendation, Andrew! Can’t do it without your help 😁
Would like to see more night shots in the videos, especially different tones of light in different areas of the photo. most of your shots for this one are in the day time or inside. that's really what separates leica from other brands.
Most night pictures are interesting with good DOF, a 50mm is not gona give you night landscapes all in sharp at F1: - But for dark venues events, without flash, yes, it must be a plus...
I have no use for fast lenses. They just make nonsense to me. BUT if I wanted one I'd go for the Voigtlander. The Chineseum lenses are false economy and the Leicas are too rich. Good to hear about the lack of focus shift, BTW. They obviously took the time to do this one right.
@@theonlinething1039 You think you're saving money but you're not. It's much better value to buy old SLR lenses. For a DSLR, no adapter is needed, but even for a DSLM, a good adapter is still cheaper than a Chineseum lens. I got a Pentax 50/2 recently for $25.
@@Biosynchro There is no 50mm f1/0.95 equivalent retro lens for Pentax or any other mount. The only ones are Leica and Canon, well and only the Noctilux is actually good. And if you're not into the retro look with the weird coatings, guess what, you gotta buy a modern lens.
how would you compare this to voigt 50 1.2 in terms of FC and bokeh? is the FC well controlled, do you feel the bokeh is harsher on the f1? im a m10-r owner in the market to buy a fast 50
Can’t speak for the 1.2 since I haven’t used it. I found the f1 to be a nice blend of classic and modern with some definition in the bokeh on busy backgrounds, never got too busy but it was something to note.
You didn't make me want to buy this lens. It's a really nice lens, but I'm just picky with bokeh and none of them are that great to me. I like an oldschool Planar/Biotar design without the new additional elements that correct a lot of aberrations but also get rid of a lot of the bokeh character making the bokeh bit too smooth and buttery for me. Love the build quality though!
Thats right!👍👍 i use planar and older distagon with canon, and they are so awesome!👌👌🫶🫶.. planar 50mm f1,7 cy t.. and distagon 28mm f2.8 cy.. that planar makes object jump out of picture🤪🤪👍
that CY Planar 50/1.7 is a classic, I've been using the 50/1.4 for many years now and still love it. It's gathering dust since I modified a Canon 50/1.2 LTM to have shorter MFD, but I'll keep it for when I move to Fuji GFX cause the Planar can cover that sensor and the Canon can't.
I actually owned this lens but didn’t feel it delivered the image quality. It was quite clinical and unimpressive and uninspiring. It’s the only M mount lens I ever traded/sold because it didn’t make me go out and shoot with it. Sorry to sound a bit contrarian but I just wasn’t too wow’ed by it.
Im thinking about to get a m10/m10p.. but I’m Not sure if I need it 😂.. I have a Fuji x pro3 and a Sony a7iii. This just makes no sense, MF, expensive… it can’t do anything better than my other cameras. It’s limiting u very hard. But man I had it in my hand.. this feels so good in hand. It’s just this. I don’t know 🤷🏻♂️
Hmm the bokeh could be the only thing it could improve on. Calling it garbage is a bit too extreme, are you sure you’re not referring to his 50 f1.1 review?
COIGTLANDER IS PRONOUNCED 'FOTLSNDER CORECTLY ! f_1 with digital is lessuseful, averagely, than with film. its almost a 'special effects' lens -wafer.thin DOF. - so sharpness is comprimised often. a paid-for promo for sure.
