Voldemort’s HUGE Mistake | Harry Potter Film Theory 

Is it possible that the state of being petrified renders the victims inedible to the basilisk? Petrified translated to mean turned to stone (or some physical equivalent thereof)

@@LOVEMUFFIN_official Most (all?) real-life snakes will not eat something that isn't moving. They'll chase down prey, strike, and kill it themselves and eat it. But if it seems like it was already dead - it's not moving or struggling - their instincts tell them that it's not fit to eat.

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Until you realize spiders would never set up webs inside pipes...

@@mitchhak2 at the point a giant snake can pass through I would call them tunnels more than pipes.....

Why's that? ​@@mitchhak2

@@juanhunter7073I imagine that everytime water passes through them, the webs would be destroyed, and the spiders killed

Yeah, significant death doesn't mean the victim has to be significant.

I was thinking that it was Slytherins plan so counted her death as worthy.

2 of the significant deaths are muggle homeless people.

Oh yeah

He knew enough about her to know she was "mudblood."

I don't believe she did fear death. I don't know exactly from where, but as this channel has quoted a few times at this point, she didn't originally haunt the bathroom, she originally came back to punish Olive Hornby, which she did until the ministry ordered her back to her place of death (likely at least part of the reason she's usually in that bathroom instead of anywhere else in the castle), at which point it was far too late for her to properly die.

What could the Ministry do to a ghost?

@@eurovianmuttbig old fan

@@eurovianmutti don’t think they would „do“ something to her but there are probably spells to transfer them

OR force/push them through the veil?

Love that. Don't know if there is any way to actually find out factual information about that though. The books are vague about it and pottermore doesn't go into it either. Interesting idea though! ❤

That would be such a good video

My theory is that the curse is tied to the diadem.

@@nhansen197 I don't see how it would affect a specific teaching position. The diadem was hidden in the Room of Requirements, not the Defense Against Dark Arts classroom.

@@nhansen197 @nhansen197 I suppose it could be. But it seems off a bit. What curse could he place on his own horcrux that would carry through the room of requirement which is unplottable?..

And Malfoy crying in the bathroom before he fights harry

She was also crying, so tears in the way too.

Reflections petrify. Glasses aren’t a reflection. She’d still just die.

@@Huebz I mean, one kid (don’t remember which one) was saved by looking through Nearly-Headless Nick, and there’s no reflection there, so glasses would probably petrify too.

@@aqwkingchampion13 Ghosts blur vision. Glasses improve it.

@@ugolomb another looked through a camera lense and survived

Doubtful. Voldemort is exceedingly arrogant. It probably never crossed his mind as a possibility that he would get caught. Also, it's not the same kind of significance. All the other horcruxes were made with relics and very meaningful deaths. Not a rando in the girls bathroom. Lol.

I don't think any muggles were born at Hogwarts;)

​@@philadelphiajewishvoice6171 i know this is probably a joke, but... a muggle born is a wizard or a witch born in muggle family(sorry, i'm Potterhead)

⁠@@UnfazedPhoenixvoldemorts arrogance is exactly why he would think it was significant. He has salazar’s heir has just continued his work of killing muggleborns and so would have seen it as claiming his important place in the wizarding world. The other horcrux were significant objects and Tom would have seen his own diary as also significant as he is “The Lord Voldemort” after all

@@conormurphy4328 @conormurphy4328 you missed the point. I wasn't addressing any of what you said. I was acknowledging what OP said about Tom Riddle/Voldemort believing it was significant because he didn't get caught. My point was that his arrogance wouldn't allow for him to even consider that he would get caught.

No, he clearly wanted to wipe out all muggle born because he saw them as lesser beings, as enemies. The basilisk was supposed to purge the school, not defend it.

AGREED

He absolutely is arrogant enough to claim that he is in that same tier of great and powerful wizards

100% agree.

​​​@@DarkBanks3He IS. Despite your irrational bias he is canonically one of the most powerful wizards to ever live. He is stated to be stronger than Grindelwald. Dumbledore said that Tom Riddle was propably the most brilliant student to ever step in Hogwarts Dumbledore said that Voldemorts had powers he will never have. Their fight in the novel was actually not one sided like people remember,it was mostly inconclusive. In the novel Dumbledore wasnt concerned with protecting Harry as he had statues do that. Voldemort in the movie outright overloaded Dumbledores defences causing him to fall down,when he screamed NYAAAAAAAAAAH for some reason (movies are secondary canon). Voldemort in the novels fought Minerva and 2 other wizards on par with her at the SAME TIME.(Yes he is 3x Prime Snapes power) Him dying to Harry is simply his OWN curse rebounding at him due to the primordial power of love. Voldemorts destructive potency is above EVERYONE, Dumbledore included. Even if Dumbledore is overall "greater". Dumbledore said that if Voldemort returned at full power then not even HIS own protective charms and spells would prove to be invincible. In the novel Fawkes had to swallow an Avada Kedavra cause it would have hit and killed Dumbledore in the duel. Contrary to popular belief,wizard do NOT get weaker with age. Thats not how magic works. If anything their wisdom makes them better. You just don't like Voldemort. You remind of the people downplaying Firelord Ozai for the same reason,even though he was canonically the strongest firebender shown in the show(though i believe his children would later on surpass him once they grew older) If you are talking about YOUNG Riddle then yes he wouldn't compare to the most powerful wizards but taking into account his age he would still be that great relatively. Voldemorts innate power was greater than everyone but his closed minded attitude towards anything than the dark arts comes to bite him Dumbledore himself said that Voldemorts knowledge of magic was likely beyond ANY wizard and he is stated to have pushed dark magic beyond anything before him. He was comparable,albeit weaker than Elder Wand Dumbledore and he is repeatedly indicated and outright heavily implied by Dumbledore to be MORE powerful than him if not for the Elder Wand

@@newhybrid101 Wow... just wow

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They are? What data? I certainly don't have a leak

Ohhhhhh better help. Yeah idc about them anyway

​@@vallerianredha8822heavily involved with Israel? Lol the phone you are using and the website you are watching this on is also just as "involved with Israel".

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Plot armor. 😂 Pettigrew has to escape for the story to progress.

How did an ordinary muggle diary have the disappearing ink & magical power? The piece of sole inside or a cast spell? 😮

I have to agree. It might have been accidentally made but after that.

I agree that Voldy considers his story and lineage to be extremely important, but like you said, the diary is just too mundane an object. It seems likely to me that he didn't plan to make it a horcrux, but once he did, he added extra enchantments to it to store his legacy because he needed it to be important and special. Rather than originally choosing an object which was already noteworthy, he had to make do with making it special himself (and that's why it's much more magical and clever than his other horcruxes imo).

It being called a "diary" is probably wrong also, it's more likely a blank book he used to write down his research on his history, or any secret he was looking into/found.

@@Jambler257 but to be honest, even then I find "I killed someone might as well make a horcrux" to seem very out of character. The book is definitely the strangest one

Seriously you know how long wizards are known to live and this f***** died in his 60s because he was so obsessed with not dying

He should have just turned into a vampire xD

It bought him an extra sixteen years, six months and two days of life...thirteen years, seven months and twenty-four days of which were spent as a useless mist.

When death scares you. You start doing things outside your norms. My grandma turned 50 and would stay awake all night reading romance novels and thinking about her life's missed oppurtunities

I dont agree. I would create a few horcruxes by killing only people that deserved it or should die for others protection. Creating horcruxes to avoid death is understandble. He did a LOT more than that,like you know,starting a war and trying to take over yet wizarding world and wanting to commit partial genocide. I too,dont want to EVER die,i would gladly create a few horcruxes if i could.

Riddle didnt have friends. He had servants. He probably went back to the orphanage because there he was top dog. He was feared by the staff and other children. He could do as he wished and no one told him what to do. If he was to be fostered by a wizarding family the adults would have authority over him, they would tell him what to do, he wouldnt be able to use magic and he would have to keep the mask of civility he used when at school up over the summer. When he was at the orphanage they already knew what kind of person he truly was. They were terrified of him by the time he was 11. He couldnt use magic either way but the orphanage allowed some freedom. To his mind if he was able to stay at school over the summer he would be able to explore unrestricted learn more magic, practice magic and not have much interaction with whichever teacher(s) remained as well.

He had nowhere else to go... students aren't allowed to stay at Hogwarts over the summer. It's literally that simple. He even says it himself.

​@@JessicaClark-lq4gwit's more simple then that. He had nowhere else to go. Students aren't allowed to stay at Hogwarts over summer break. Sometime after he finished school at Hogwarts he burned that orphanage to the ground.

@UnfazedPhoenix the question in the comment is why didnt he have anywhere else to go. Why he didnt go stay at a "friends" house. My thought is he didnt go to another wizarding home because he didnt ask. Professor Dippet says in the diary memory that arrangements could be made for Riddle to stay at Hogwarts in other circumstances but due to the attacks he couldnt. Riddle hadnt asked before that. Edit to add: essentially if he had asked one of the budding death eaters if he could go to their homes they would have done it. Their parents would allow it because who wouldnt be taken in by the poor orphan boy who has to go back to a muggle orphanage? He didnt ask and my 1st comment explains why.

Option 1: Having no resistance to the status effect you inflict. Both are petrified. Option 2: One has resistance. One leaves the encounter unpetrified. Option 3: Both have resistance. Mutual affection from finding someone/something that they can actually interact with.

@@wiidragon7588 I mean surely the basilisk had seen it's own reflection before so it's got some immunity to it's own stare. although I'm not sure of medusa didn't she turn herself to stone?

Interesting. Medusa is technically human - she isn't a goddess. So i think the basilisk would petrify or kill her. Meduda's stare is only known to work on humans, there's no record of it affecting creatures so I think the basilisk has the advantage there as well

@@UnfazedPhoenix *gorgon not really a human anymore, but good point

Bertha Jenkins was used, Nagini was already Horcrux hince Harry seeing that scene from her point of view...

Toilet paper horocrux in a hole somewhere in the forbidden forest 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔

​@@locabsgg94 A creepy clown picture that's obviously guarded in the forbidden forest. Tell me who would willingly approach and not be freaked out lol

Why go that far just find a platinum necklace and throw it in the ocean.

Not just his ego, although, yeah. But his narcissistic, sadistic nature made that literally impossible. As Dumbledore mentions in half blood prince. He collects trophies of his victims to forever commemorate his “victory” over others. That is why I disagree with the theory in this video. He did believe the diary was meaningful. It is the recording of his time at Hogwarts, and links him to “the greatest” of the four founders, allowing him to disassociate from his muggle side. In fact I would go as far as to say that it’s because of the diary that Dumbledore started connecting the dots of the horcrux’s being significant objects to Voldemort.

Well Dumbledore also said the diaries was important because it proved he was the heir of slitherin

He may have documented the event into the diary, it can learn new information.

That assumes he never used the diary after making it a horcrux. Personally I think he tampered with it after making it a horcrux, which is why it had the power to drain Ginny and start to make a copy of himself.

Exactly. I think the assumption that Myrtle's death was the one used to make the diary a horcrux is incorrect. Everything points to Tom deciding to create the diary horcrux after she died and he framed Hagrid and Dumbledore started suspecting him, not immediately after killing her and before finding out the school was likely to be closed. That timeline doesn't fit.

Tom had the diary before Hagrid was arrested. In order for him to record Hagrid's arrest he would have had to have it BEFORE the event not after. Also, he didn't create the diary he created a horcrux with the diary.

​@@kiminimuchu__ what you're saying makes exactly zero sense.

LOL

It doesn't though. It is just a requirement as it simply splits the soul. The process of Horcrux making involves taking this piece of the soul and placing it in a container, with an act and an incantation. As a side note, remorse is the only way of healing a split soul back into one whole piece.

Horcrux requires a very specific ritual, and even the slightest mess up can destroy your soul out right or even trap your entire soul in an object

Voldemort himself would have had to get into the school and open the chamber in order to use the basilisk though. The odds of that are pretty low by the time of the battle of hogwarts

Yep

I would imagine a contraceptive potion or spell exists. That probably isn't in the books because it's not important to the story.

​@@UnfazedPhoenix Well we also have birth control in the real world and still teen pregnancies exist. So the point of @TheWodin is still valid

@@temeraire8329 @temeraire8329 um yea I know. I agreed with what they said.

@@UnfazedPhoenix Okay sorry, to me it sounded like you disagreed

He'd probably just have someone else kill Harry and Neville. No story.

Voldemort might have decided to wait until Harry and Neville were older or have someone else hunt them down.

​@@lukeroberson2115no, I'd imagine since Voldemort wouldn't do it himself, Snape would volunteer to go after the Potter's. He would kill James and then go to Harry, pleading with Lily to get out of the way because she doesn't have to die. Lily would in turn he pleading with Severus to take her and spare her son. And from there either Snape would back down and offer to protect both Lily and the child, knowing he wouldn't get Lily to sacrifice her son. Or he'd try to force her back and when he went to use the killing curse, she'd step in front of it, killing Lily instead. And that would also lead to 2 outcomes of either 1. Snape then tries to kill Harry but the protection is there and rebounds on Snape and kills him. 2. Snape, in remorse, takes the child back to Dumbledore to protect.

​@@kaylapounds1359Legit

Voldemort was dead-set throughout the entire story that he must be the one to kill the child in the prophecy, and I don't think that would change much if he knew everything. It seems to me that he would ignore the details warning that an attempt to kill him would backfire. I actually don't think much would be different from the actual story. With that said, it's possible he wouldn't have gone to the Potters alone, but would have taken a few of his best Death Eaters to be his backup.

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I think they say that murder tears the soul and to repair it, you need to feel genuine remorse. So I guess if you don't feel remorse your soul stays with a split and you could probably do it later.

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@@sir9integra9jr yeah I can't spell. Still I think it was to be a weapon against muggles not students, mostly because I don't think Slytherin was really that evil of a guy, he just desperately wanted to keep the school safe from Muggles and thought inviting muggle borns was just asking for trouble

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He lost likely was able to communicate by writing in it the same way Ginny did. The horcrux retained the memory of what Ginny told him when bragging to Harry in the chamber.

Voldemort was in possession of the diary until a certain point. I would imagine he had it throughout school and up until he lost his powers. At some point during that time he obviously placed it where Lucius had access to it.

@@calvinwright2214 Since Harry actually sees the events (and is not just told about them), I imagine Riddle used more than mere writing to place them in the diary. Perhaps the process was more similar to placing strands of memory in a Pensieve

Nagini is a human with a maledictus curse forcing her to remain in snake form. My best guess would be that you can't make beasts/creatures into a horcrux. All the other horcruxes are objects or human. But! If he could have made the basilisk a horcrux, it would have been an awesome idea ! 🔥🔥❤

It was probably a combination of things. He would have had to drink that potion that causes immense suffering to get access to the locket and by the time Kreacher had arrived, he was being dragged into the lake by the Inferi. He likely wouldn't have been thinking straight, so all he could do was instruct Kreacher to do what he initially set out to do, which was destroy the locket. Kreacher was also distressed as well being in the cave, as he was in there when Voldemort initially put the locket in the cave and he had to drink the same potion to test it out and Voldemort left him in there to die (this is also how Regulus knew of the cave in the first place). Kreacher would be understandably distressed to see his master dying in a cave he himself almost died in and likely wasn't thinking straight as well, so all he could do was follow his master's orders. That's how I see it at least.

@@justicefool3942to add to that, you need blood to enter the cave, blood that probably could be traced, he knew he would die anyway I think, there or by Voldie himself.

@@justicefool3942 Wait I thought Kreacher was already there with him, feeding him the potion like Harry did with Dumbledore. Dang it I need to read that chapter again.

@@Boundwithflame23you’re correct. Kretcher was there already. He’s the one who took Reg there

I like to think the mark they take could be a beacon for Voldemort to find them plus compulsions to obey him he was very cunning in the beginning.

It's written in a way that confirms the basilisk killed her. Also, she doesn't come out of Voldemort's wand during priori incantatem. So he couldn't have used the killing curse on her.

@@UnfazedPhoenix the kill would have been decades ago for priori incantatum. There are many kills that don’t show up.

I wonder if maybe he couldn't? Nagini is a human woman with a maledictus curse that caused her to permanently remain in snake form. So she doesn't count as an actual animal/creature. All the other horcruxes are objects or people (harry and nagini) maybe you can't make a beast a horcrux? But! If he could have, that would have been an amazing idea. 🔥🔥❤

@@UnfazedPhoenix Good point. Thank you for you opinion. It really helped😁.

I thought he made Nagini a horcrux when he killed the muggle caretaker?

Ooooohhh. See. Another viable explanation as well. Hhhhmmm...I think I know a couple of brothers who can help solve this mystery once and for all...

Facts!!! Also, it really demonstrates how well they know the books and the amount of work that goes into their theories. People still leave comments arguing with basic canon information lol listen to the podcast! 😂❤

That's a good one. I imagine their first go to would be that it'd just happen on another day, so I'd phrase it as what if Tom Riddle never encountered anyone else while opening the chamber of secrets? .. If the diary truly was a horcrux of opportunity then I imagine it wouldn't be made during that time period.. eventually someone else would have died though as Voldemort had opened the chamber.. so he would probably still frame Hagrid and all of that would go down the same way. But- would the diary become a horcrux .. interesting

I don't think there's a time limit. After all, they say that the rips in the soul stays that way until the person experiences true remorse. So he could probably have actually split it up later into a piece that he wanted to transfer.

Don't think it wanted to kill people, as Ben said. I think it was just hungry lol. It ate a LOT of rats.

The Diary probably contained his research on his heritage and his attempts at finding the Chamber of Secrets and understanding its Secrets.

My line of thinking is that Tom unintentionally made his diary into a horcrux (much like how he unintentionally made Harry into a horcrux), than began to look in to the subject (question Slughorn) and then "experiment" with the ring with making multiple horcruxes.

Excuse me, 1/256 soul. 2^8

Well, I think ideally you'd try to split of as small a piece as possible, if you get the same benefit from having a millionth of your soul as a half in a Horcrux, you should make one with a millionth. Of course there's no details about how much control someone has over the soul splitting process, though if the splitting is somewhat random you could keep killing people until it splits in such a way that would allow you to only put a tiny piece in a Horcrus.