I borrowed a Volkswagen ID Buzz to see what all the fuss was about. Did it leave me buzzing or would I rather it buzzed off? Join me for a drive around Worcestershireshire to find out. #EV #electriccars #volkswagen
Bullsht. Dont behave childish. Was that same plan with mobile phones of flat TV? Nope, not any more. Everybody has them. You can buy 4K TV for affordable price. Problem is price of batteries. In near future EVs will be cheaper than ICE cars. Stop moaning. 🤷♂️🙈
@@FullFact548 the climate's always changing, has done for 4.5 billion years. It's time you learnt that we have to adapt to a changing planet, not adapt the planet to suit us.
@@FullFact548 It's a 2500 kilos EV lugging such amount of weight it was never green and it will never be I wouldn't be surprised if 30 children died mining this you need to use logic , plus 80kwh just to go 170 miles 🤨🥴
Whether it’s very hot or very cold, using the a/c or heater is going to lower your range. By how much is disputable but it must be at least 10% on average.
Their's 2 electric heater units on a buzz, 1 for battery and 1 for cabin heating, between them they are nearly 20kw !,so yes they will make a difference to range .
I like the idea of a two year wait for the delivery of this. Order it and start the repayment plan now so that when it eventually gets delivered its already paid for so you can flog it for something useful. Or if you are getting on in years like wot I am, have it full spec but don't start paying until it's delivered and with any luck you will have snuffed it while still owing a wad so your kids get it paid for by the payment protection plan.
@@grahambedford5953 Great idea. Even more reason to buy one. Would save the Co-op Undertakers fees. Lots of space for the flowers too. I wonder if Geoff knows a good signwriter to personalise it.
In Australia the ultimate surfers car in 1968 was a 1960 ford falcon wagon it had a longer flatter roofline, better for surf racks. However my brother had a 1959 Chrysler Royal hearse because he could put the boards inside the car. Our stepmother was terrified of it.
@ £60-£70K, IT AINT A FAMILY CAR FOR YOUR AVERAGE WORKING FAMILY, but they don’t want the average working family to have a car anyway. P.S. at 3tons loaded, shouldn’t it VED atleast be £300 to pay for the wear and tear on the roads.
A classic VW bus is actually cheaper than the iD Buzzlightyear. I would buy a classic any day over this as long as it still has its original engine and not a EV conversion.
Hi Geoff Glad you keep mentioning the mining issue and the child labour that allows it to happen . Seems many people are very selective when they say how good these EVs are in supposedly saving the planet . And assuming they do get their way and make everyone have electric cars , what cost will it have on those who are expected to provide the materials . Thank you for not turning a blind eye to this issue . Best wishes as always 😀👍👍👍
We're not going to be driving anyway so not really a problem. The roads aren't built to take the weight of EVs and there's no way the elites will improve them unless there's a money laundering opportunity in it 💷💷💷💷💷
When i live in Plymouth, most of the surfers had either a transit type van or a Toyota Hilux Surf. The van had the benefit of being able to sleep in it. The only surfers who are going to buy these are the ridiculously wealthy type in Just Stop Oil and Extinction rebellion, when they aren't borrowing daddies Range or mummies XC90 that is.
The way the video started I was starting to wonder whether the original Geoff had been replaced by some sort of clone, luckily it all worked out in the end. Just off to check what the max vehicle weight you can drive on a car licence is?
@@GeoffBuysCars Driving the mother in law back from Stansted via some lovely Essex back road countryside yesterday. Wife saying 'great scenery', but I was concentrating on avoiding potholes! I am thinking these heavy EVs with huge wheels and low profile tyres will not tolerate those holes very well. These things are only the future for the WEF masters and mass debaters
@@FullFact548 capitalism failed, but they don’t want us to know that yet. Capitalism needs constant growth and new entrants to the system - falling populations can’t sustain capitalism indefinitely
@@GeoffBuysCars Nice to hear someone say it - capitalism has completely failed. It's now a society where the rich just milk the poor to keep up the illusion that it's still working. We're in an extreme phase of capitalism where profit and growth are more important than anything else, and where war, famine and children mining minerals for Mr Rich Western Man to smugly drive around in his £70k EV are deemed acceptable. Hypocracy beyond belief.
In 1966 I was 10 years old. But in 1984 (now there's a date which for some reason resonates) I bought a 1966 VW campervan. 2 tone orange and white, with split windscreen and 6v electrics! It had the full Devon conversion interior and was absolutely brilliant. I went all over the British Isles in it and kept it for about 3 years. Cost me then £800! Eventually though, keeping on top of the maintenance for it started to cost a bit too much and I sold it. How I wish I had kept it now. Looking at even a scrapper from back then now, they are going for £30K - £40K! And a minter now, probably around £60+k! So getting on for the same price as the new ID Buzz!
And trust me the first field this van goes in at 3 tones it will sink and be stuck boggy fields dont like 3 tone vehicles .Call the farmer and you cant tow them only a a lift so its stuck .please mention this next time thank you . .
funny you should state that last month I went to Statfold Barn Railway near Tamworth and they parked everyone on a field. On said day the heavens open all day and the field car park soon turned into mush and many cars were being towed out by one modernish diesel tractor and two classic Ford tractors. The people on car park attendant duty did actually ask if I had a EV as they were rescuing more EV's than internal combustion cars, as the weight of them had caused them to sink and the motors couldn't exactly pull themselves from the mud. My little petrol hatchback escaped with no assistance at all and I thought it would get stuck due to its low profile tyres.
A split screen 1200 was only easy to maintain because you got so much practice. Especially resetting the points gap regularly and making some lights work. Electricity in a car has always been a nightmare.
Not the Picasso the Berlingo they are in 2 sizes 2007 (I think it is) they made them bigger, 60mpg for the diesel. More room than the Picasso same running gear. Pre 2007 they were about 12inches shorter. They have twin sliding doors and tailgate without electrics .Take a look at one.
General, You wanna try being in a fully freighted modern artic @ 44t gvw when it thinks it's gonna rear end something even though its not. The thing bangs on 12 enormous air operated disc brakes bigger than your volvo wheels including the tyres while alarms going off and the whole dash and reflection in the windscreen goes red. Even worse while in the rain and going round a bend. 🤬😡 If that buzz box gave you palpitations an angry artic would make you identify as a woman and give birth 😵💫😂🤣😂 Gr8 vid as always and a true summary of modern crap. 👍👏👏👏
I absolutely agree with you concerning electric tailgates. You just don't need them! No matter if it's a BEV or an ICE. And think about this: if it's supposed to make it easier to close the tailgate, why are all the buttons placed in a way that you'll have to stretch your arm upwards anyway? The manufacturers should put the buttons for the electric mechanism somewhere at the side of the boot in the height of your hips...
@@FullFact548 That's another problem with the electric tailgates. When you put quite a bit in the boot you never know if it really closes or because it slightly touches something in the trunk just opens up again. So you better wait until it's really closed...
@5:19 It is a luxury feature which you expect at this price point. Traveling in comfort and style with out compromise is the least you should expect at this price point.
Il stick with my 23 year old disco, with the seats out you can get a board in the back or several bags of sand and cement and it will get through a foot of snow or mud.
Your bang on. Toys for rich twats, just to drive to there holiday homes. And price everything out for the locals. There's a hell of a lot of Surf beaches here in Australia. Haven't seen one charging point at any of them... I'll keep my 2003 V8 disco. Thanks. Looks better as well. Cheers Geoff. Cracking!
The elephant in the room is you can buy a classic VW camper or bus for the same price as this restored just as long as no one has EV converted one as classic EV conversions are ridiculous prices. I saw one of the EV converted classic Mini's at £60,000 whereas a fully restored classic Mini was around the £9,000-£20,000 mark
Sorry Geoff, for £60,000 , I'd get the Original VW bus , it's ultra cool 😎 and it's neaver going to lose money, only go up 👆, I can't stand E,V,'s you can keep the lot ! Keep up the good work Sir 👍🏻😎 p,s, you had me in stichis laughing when you said just need a big knob 😂 classic
After some googling it seems that you can buy a fully restored 60s splitscreen for 15k less than the new leccy version! I know which one I would chose if I had the money!
My 2001 230 SLK took me from Aberdeen to Manchester topless the whole way. It can get a bit wearing on the motorways but I still find it magical. Got a Volvo V50 too for the winter, my dear old Dads, (bl**dy apostrophes) it was such a good car and so almost worthless I wasn't giving it away. I had a Griff500 too a while ago, just wanted one car from the silly draw in my life, sold it and bought a Suzuki Cappuccino, officially the world's most bonkers fun car ever.
Is there not a longer variant in UK? The one down looks a bit too short for windsurfing may halves. Vehicle to appliance for my electric kettle would be useful.
I had a Volvo 350DL and one of the warning lights was a skull and crossbones. Turned out to be the little sidelight bulb had blown. That gave me a fright☠️😂
Electric seats are so you don't have to keep adjusting the car seat if the car is being driven by two people. These and an electric tailgate make very little difference to the cars range.
the actual range of the Buzz is 205 miles without a recharge, with 4 passengers and some materials probably nearer 170, best keep a petrol generator in the back to avoid being stranded and of course embarrassed. The modern day Sinclair C5.
This is crazy, Im a middle earner £55k and can't afford something like this. Not an extravagant spender, have a smallish mortgage etc etc. So what am i doing wrong if everyone else can afford this?
Stupid air conditioning controls. Really annoying. And yes, nobody needs electric seats with heavy motors and wiring designed to fail, same for the tailgate. I have an electric one too and a simple manual one is easier and quicker. However, people, who are very fashion conscious don’t forget, tell themselves they need these things. Give it properly engineered heating controls and a four hundred mile range, at a sensible price with fast charging, and I might be interested. Until then it’s a toy.
Alright, so the seat motor usually takes around 2A at 12V, or around 24W. It doesn't actually touch your high voltage battery, but if it did, it would run continuously for around 200 hours, so I think you're alright there 😂 - it's heating/cooling and moving that takes up 99.9% of the battery. With that said, these seem to lose 15% range average after a couple of years, so you're looking at around 100 miles range on the motorway in the cold, you probably want to leave 20-30 miles spare just in case to make it to a charger, so make that 70-80 miles realistically - feels like freedom!🤣 - pretty good range for slower driving though.
Don't forget people said basically the same thing when cars were invented, “they're just toys for the super rich” “There are no gas stations” “Horses eat grass which is everywhere.”
The X bus (if it ever materialises) is half the price and I believe doesn't use cobalt in the batteries The obvious successor to an old split screen is an old t4 or t5
My mates got an elecvtric tailgate and I told him he will skin his shins waving his foot under the bumper when he fits a towbar and sure enough hes taken the skin off his right shin twice in a week since fitting his new towbar🤔
Don't get hung up on electric seats as the rerely move unless you change driver - and even then it's 'nothing' in terms of battery use. To some extent the electric tailgate is the same story. Most people on most trips will not open it - and even when you do it takes bugger all power - so in terms of overall electricity use it is a rounding error.
...that sliding door even sounds like those of the 1970s 😂 What manufacturers fail to understand: With the current technology electric vehicles are restricted to be short-range runabouts. What they'd be replacing is little cars like Corsas, Citroen C1, Micras and the likes, and they'd have to be priced competitively. But that is the segment that doesn't yield huge margins, so here we are...
I have a T6, this interests me NOT, not even slightly. I’m in the ‘600 club’, the Transporter owners who have their engines re-mapped which gives you over 600 miles to a full tank. In my street of less than 40 houses there are 5 Transporters, I have 3 kids under 10, they’re unbeatable for prams, bikes scooters etc. Funny you mentioned the Picasso, talking to my neighbour yesterday, he had one prior to his T6, he had it for years and loved it
5:25 Electric seats draw nothing from battery. Even heating don’t draw much range from battery. Its was problem in small battery cars but with todays big battery ones not anymore.
The EV crowd and 77th Brigade blow a fuse when you ask them where and how the EV batteries are eventually recycled. They claim the newer batteries will last a very long time or can be used to store power for your home (😅). Some recycling initiatives are in place but will have very low volume, my bet is that the batteries will end up in Bangladesh Central Landfill Facility (No.2), the No.1 Facility is full of all the iPhone and IPad batteries which cannot be recycled.
Ah, someone tried: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SZnwB4luUE4.html -- he got 158 miles running it all the way to 0. So let's say it's 3 years old and lost 15% of range and you don't want to run it to 0% (10-90%) - yep, around 100 miles range (but again unless you love living in range anxiety land, subtract 30-40 miles from that!).
@@DigiDriftZone now try it in the winter, EV database says 145 miles on a motorway. Without the 15 miles left in reserve for that broken rapid charger, you now have a true cold weather range on the motorway of 130 miles to avoid being stranded.
@@stevezodiac491 That's right, before you factor in the battery degradation. The 130 miles is the best you'll ever get on a brand new car, you can quickly shave 15% off that and you're down to 110.
@@Richard482 that’s the average battery degradation in the first 3 years, after that it tapers off and the annual battery capacity loses become lower but at 8-10 years there is usually something like 20-25% less capacity than you started with.
I’ll stick with my trusty £4000 2.4L long range, (run on chip oil if I want), turbo diesel 8 seater pop top, multi-option seating & 2x double bed, charge up via cigarette lighter, multiple cup holder front and back. AC front and back heaters, full electric including roof bongo, using my £80 iphone SE as Sat Nav, entertainment and pub finder - thanks. 👍😎
Simply, I cannot afford an ID Buzz. It is ridiculously expensive in Germany and therefore you get nice interior colors but also hard cheap plastics all over. No nice finishes that you could find in much cheaper cars. Leather seats? Not in this price range. Rear side windows to get a better ventilation, over estimated. So in the end I am not sad that this car is not affordable for me. Warm greetings to you all and have a great day 👍😎🇩🇪
22.22pm,hi Geoff,if you want to buy my black metallic,1 6,110bhp,petrol manual,citroen zsara piccasso desire,with the "challenged paintwork"as mentioned,on an o6,with 153k on the clock,plenty of history,and some of the mot until October,it's genuinely for sale,as I'm having a car on motability lol!😁(don't worry,it's a 5 speed manual,and not adapted!,ol "percy the flying peanut" is as he came out the factory)!😁👌👍...
It would be...want the car to go to a good home and live on,too good to scrap,or allow it to die...Still plenty of life in the ol' fella yet..its been a tough decision to let go tbf...
Reluctantly, I'll agree it looks ok from the outside, and the interior is ok too, but only 5 seats in a car that size and for THAT price. Just awful. The infotainment system is also terrible (and buggy), and the haptic touch controls will drive you mad. It doesn't have great range either, and isn't as practical as the original. Infact, on VW's Buzz config page, with a few moderate additons (inc split paint), it was no trouble getting the price up to £74k for the 'Style' version, which is almost £1k per month on a PCP with a £5k deposit. Just crazy.
Staffordshire to Falmouth is 312 miles, best time we’ve done it in is 4 3/4 hrs approximately excluding 1 comfort break say 10 mins, how much time would I have to spend charging the thing/looking for a working charger? No thanks, my awd Merc with 2*1 diesel did 47*77mpg last time fully loaded, no contest especially as we went down & back on one tank of fuel.
3 stops of around 1.5 to 2 hours each :) - those stops will cost you 1.8x the price of diesel as motorway chargers are INSANELY expensive (excluding snacks!). It's ironic isn't it that you'll spend more time charging than you do driving in your diesel. You also don't want to go over 70mph or that could mean a 4th charging stop!
Used to do Birmingham to Falmouth a LOT, best car was the Mondeo 2.2 TDCi but the one I did it mos tin was the Peugeot 306 1.9 DTurbo. Good times. Wee stop at Exeter, but that was it!
Electric seats wouldn’t effect your EV battery. That would come off of your 12v house battery. Like in a regular car you don’t need the engine on to use electric seats.
ID Buzz cold weather motorway range from EV database figures is 145 miles. Now take away 15 miles for that broken rapid charger and you have a true cold weather range of 130 miles to avoid being stranded.
It's potentially worse than that on a motorway trip because if you assume about 20 miles between services and one services is out of action, then you need to be able to get to the next one. So that's 40 miles range that I'd want to reserve. Then on top of that, you'd only charge it to 80% unless you want to sit around at the tail end of the charge curve for a couple of hours. So typically on motorway runs where several charges are required, it could be max 80 to ft 100 miles or so between charges unless you're brave or trusting in infrastructure. Efficiency of around 2.6 to 2.7 miles per kWh, not good.
@@djtaylorutube The point here is though that most people who will buy these cars will already have at least another car, more likely three or four other cars. Therefore they will be used for a specific purpose such as local commutes or shuttle journeys. Most people do less than 50 miles per day which is well within the range. Most people who buy these will have a car for long distance like a Golf, E class or Audi avant too. That is why these cars will sell v well.
@@Blackmamba12345 I don't disagree with that except that it's a vehicle designed to go somewhere with for a break. At least, that's what it seems like to me. It's not a fun experience when that involves charging hassle when trying to drive further than a couple of hundred miles.
It is a pretty much an obvious WEF vehicle - designed to be out of reach of the peasants. Surprised they haven’t got them ferrying the gimps into Davos but no, they will stick to their S-Classes and Range Rovers. The Buzzz is the anti-christ of cars to me. Amazing when they don’t tell you how much carbon was released when making this ridiculous thing…. Good review though as always Geoff.
Its way too expensive to be what the ideal is, but i'm not sure about your range complaint. I'd definitely want a 30 min break at some point in 250 miles (maybe more than one), so it probably isn't a problem in any real world situation. I mean, this thing can (theoretically) go from Sheffield to Edinburgh on a single charge, but you'd never need to. I personally would like to have lunch at some point in a 5 - 6 hour drive
