Volkswagen ID4 review | Watch this before you buy one! 

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Exactly. Only a small percentage of people can afford these cars. Two people I know bought on lease but both gave them up because of the high repayments. Not to mention the inconvenience and basically aren't practical for a busy young couple.

Most people can't afford EVs. The EV community want to force you to buy a car you can't afford. They been quietly passing mandates to ban non-EV cars.

@@cwwiss1 What do the young couple do with their car that makes EVs impractical? 😃 We’re a single car, BEV family with three young children, two jobs, school runs, after-school activities, summer camps, Saturday morning football matches, etc. In-laws are 150km and 320km away (each way). I’ve yet to find anything impractical about it. There definitely are people that they won’t suit but that number is getting smaller all the time. It’s a leap of faith.

A brand new car isn’t affordable to most people let alone a BMW 5 Series. Hence a healthy secondary market that puts many brands and vehicles within reach. Also, nobody factors total cost of ownership into their equation. 10 year of premium gas has a real impact on your cash flow vs what most people would pay for electric.

@@kayarosenbloom1976 Yes a brand new car isn't affordable, if we are talking about BMW 3 series, Tesla or an ID4. A Toyota Corolla and a Nissan Kicks are affordable, but not trendy. Cars arn't affordable, because of lax credit and people are moving to higher trim levels and SUVs. Repos did pick up during the pandemic as many lost their jobs in combination of car notes exceed more then 30% of their take home pay and mortgage/rent exceeding another 30%.,(your a pay check away from ruin) still have to feed the kids/yourself and save. If you can't afford an EV, the saving in gas from electric are meaningless.

Thanks so much Gareth, fair play for the support 🙌🏻

Thanks.... I think 😂

Thank you, it was killing me trying think of who it reminded me of 😀

They're a funky looking car alright!

No, a charger at home removes 95% of the charging stress I’d imagine

Thanks for watching Shay. I did read recently that you'd need to be doing decent enough mileage to justify the extra charge they ask for to have a split meter. I have a smart meter in my house and a year or so ago they still wanted 150 quid to switch to a night rate and I don't do enough kms in an EV personally. It's worth shopping around and at nearly 20c per kW with ESB, there has to be cheaper by looking. They all get you in the end though I feel, cheap rate at the start and then ramps up after that.

Great tips

@@NobbyOnCars nice one Nobby. Your review is spot on.

Thank you Mario

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Thanks Anthony. It’s never been cheap to have a nice car in Ireland and sadly it never will be!

I've noticed you can get an electric car for around the same price as a regular car but with less spec on it? For example my Tiguan Rline was around the same price as low range ID4. The cost of the battery removes things like sunroofs, keyless entry, electric tailgate etc... To get as close a spec as I could to my Tiguan on an ID4 I'm going to be paying €150 extra a month but still no sunroof. I suppose you can jump into an electric car for a good price but you'll be sacrificing a lot of bits.

@@pato10111 you can offset some of that €150 per month against the reduced fuel costs I suppose, depends on a lot of factors though.

@@NobbyOnCars Agreed. Made the mistake of going back to petrol on current car so a bit unhappy with the costs.

Same shit here in North America. Gas is over $4/Gallon in California and it still cheaper to get a modest ICE car in mid 20's. ID.4 in U.S. is 40K. That leaves you 15K difference. Oil changes are CHEAP, so it would take you close to 10 years to break even. Not worth it.

Not in Ireland anyway, business trim upwards does.

@@NobbyOnCars yeah exactly.we checked yesterday and yes it doesn't comes with camera.so we moved to ID.4 style model..which has more specs than life but battery size is 52kwh..But we love this model due to its specs.

@@K4kumarVlogs if you don’t do the miles, you’re better off getting the spec that you actually like over range I think. Have to compromise somewhere 👍🏻

@@NobbyOnCars 100% true 👍

Upgraded but yes, lovely colour and texture on them

@@NobbyOnCars just subscribed to your channel thanks for taking the time to create really good informative content! I’m really enjoying the EV reviews currently, worth having a look at the BMW I3 S? Is it still a good option in today’s market? Skimmed through your previous videos and couldn’t see that you’ve look at that one yet!

Haven't had a proper look at one, no. I think they still look fantastic. Long range one is ok I suppose but there have been big jumps in technology since they came out.

Ah here, that was back in 2015, move on for Gods sake. Do you not think there was more automakers doing similar? Of course there were. VW have paid over €30 billion in fines and damages. They were caught, that's for sure and deserved their punishment so let it rest and have a broader mind. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I could.

Will see what I can do

The Enyaq looks great in a good spec with the 21inch alloy wheels but the Id4 is possibly a bit more refined and will stand the test of time better than the Skoda.

If the extra space isn’t needed the ID.3 is the better car to drive / handle

Not in this one, no.

If you limit the charger to 7-7.2kW it shouldn’t cause an issue. Hasn’t been a problem for me anyway but the house was wired for a charger to begin with

Max charge capacity on single phase is indeed 7.2kW, 32A. If you have an electric shower or something else with a large load in your house, the sparks should fit a changeover switch at the bare minimum; this basically cuts power to the car charger if you turn on the shower. Better quality/smart chargers can also be connected to a sub meter which monitors the total electrical capacity at your board and ramps up or down the charge available to the car based on this. Much more elegant solution than a changeover..

Makes you appreciate how important it is to use someone who knows what they’re at

myenergi sells a 7kW charger (Zappi) that by means of a simple sensor will limit the power the charger takes to stay within the maximum you set. The Zappi is also particularly good if you have solar panels, exploiting surplus PV electricity, or a supplier who offers a variable rate. It can be controlled by time or a signal from the supplier's meter.

@@marquisdemoo1792 that’s what I have and it does the job perfectly!

Asked many times, they still don’t seem to have a press one.

@@NobbyOnCars thanks picking mine up Saturday week, going from a gtx

True

Perhaps 33c if you pay a monthly subscription of about €15 a month. Crazy to go for that option.

That’s extortionate! I think Tesla is €0.29

The first edition isn’t for sale anymore in the U.K. but if you want all the bells and whistles then you need the ID.4 Max which starts from £49,990

Thanks, but is the UK first edition different to European models?

@@wobblynight Ignore the last message after doing some digging, the U.K. got the ID.4 1st Edition, the rest of Europe had the ID.4 1st Edition which is the same as U.K. but they also got a ID.4 1st Edition Max which is absolutely loaded with matrix headlights, electric tailgate etc etc, similar spec to the ID.4 Max that I told you about but at a slightly lower price, hope this helps.

Not sure about the car. Never sat in one. But it’s not very attractive. Pass

Hi Eamonn - yes I can see how that can put people off.

WE call that Virtue Signalling here in the USA. And you're right, they are snobby, just like Tesla owners and the early Toyota Prius owners. Extremely Arrogant.

Is there not heaps of chargers properly spread out around even the bigger states?

A lot of people in the UK saying an EV isn't for them due to range. Certainly in Ireland we do much shorter journeys for sure.

Oh they’re out there alright! Almost 800 of these sold in Ireland so far this year

@@NobbyOnCars I actually think with PCP many people 'buy' cars that they can't really afford. Just because you can afford 500 odd a month doesn't mean you can.. you're sacrificing savings, investments etc

Im an EV driver myself the past 5 years and agree the cost of New EVs is a lot of money. The saving is in the Fuel and Maintenance costs over the longer term. I personally have always bought used EVS and on my 4th ev at present a Hyundai Ioniq 28kwh model. I charge 95% of the time at home, so pay a fraction of the cost of running a Diesel or petrol car. Ive only ever bought used Cars and my recent Cars where bought through Electricautos.ie I think the Chinese ev manufacturers are going to eventually dominate the market as their selling evs similar to the current price of New Petrol and Diesel Cars. The MG ZS EV is an Example of a good ev car available in Ireland. Most people dont have 50k to buy a Car. They go for PCP deals and monthly payments with a deposit usually from the Sale of their old Car. They are effectively DEBT Slaves until they pay off these loans. Ive always said no is forced to buy a car, so the companies will keep increasing prices as their in the business of maximizing their profit. If Buyers went on strike , then prices would likely come down. ive always saved hard to purchase my Cars and the used Car market is the way to go if you want to be debt free.

Used to be true. But not really anymore. You can charge at work or while shopping.

Same could be said for people who spec leather seats, a heads up display and 20” alloys on a 2.0 diesel. It’s up to the individual. Agree 20k is mad but these are press cars too so not fully reflective of most individuals.

The price seems to vary from one country to the next. In Canada, a fully equipped car comes in at about €36,000, net of taxes, dealer charges and rebates. Different tax structure perhaps.

That's why gas cars aren't gonna get anywhere anytime soon.

@@davidcottrell570 massive taxes on cars in Ireland

It is this year anyway so far!

It’s an Enyaq for starters and it’s a direct competitor to the car in this video.

Which Tesla? VW is a lot more of a familiar brand to people that aren't particularly 'into' cars.

@@NobbyOnCars I mean the Tesla model 3.

They don’t get used apparently.. so will rust 👀

@@NobbyOnCars How is this different from Tesla, Polestar, Kia, etc? It is just a cost cutting measure just like the hard plastic interior.

@@rene9582 I think you’re right

Drum brakes don't rust or squeal like disc brakes on an electric car. Besides, they are hardly ever used, at all, with regenerative brake recharging.

@@randyvanvliet226 I don’t see any rust on disc brakes on any Tesla, Polestar, etc. I watch carefully each time. Even the Renault Zoe has disc brakes on all wheels. It is simply a cheap built quality of VW. And why does Audi E-Tron have disc brakes? It belongs to the same concern. If the real reason was preventing rust Audi would have drum brakes as well.

If you don’t do motorway driving regularly, 50kW is fine.

And you know this because............?

There’s just no way with that small battery pack size that it will ever get 300 miles with normal driving

@@MisterHaynes99 it's a 77kWh battery. So you don't own one, have no experience of one yet you can come on and make a statement like your initial one? No problem with opinions but yours seems fairly ignorant.

@@NobbyOnCars I own a 2015 e-Golf SEL here in America. 84 miles on a really perfect good day, no change in elevation at destination, no head winds, smooth polished concrete at 55 to 60 mph. That's what you'll see. I have a 6 year old battery in my e-Golf now, was 24 kWh when new, battery is now somewhere a bout 75% capacity of what it was new. Nowhere near that 6 years later, with 31k miles on it. I also have a 2014 VW Touareg TDI Lux in Turbodiesel. It still gets 750 to 800 miles of travel on 100 Liters of diesel fuel, despite being 7 years old and 60k miles on it. My TDI isn't losing range between fillups. I can still easily go 700 -800 miles in a day in the Touareg, in comfort, no stopping and waiting for a fast charge fill up.

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