Volkswagen kept this ultimate luxury sedan secret - UNTIL NOW! Exclusive REVEAL of the VW Phaeton D2 

hey why you didn't show the trunk :(

there was none, it is a design model

Yes put it into production ASAP

I would definitely like to see this in production it is much nicer looking and stylish than the audi a8 and looks better than the Arteon also.

I owned a 2004 W12 Phaeton. It was a beautiful car…and was great when it worked. But that was only positive thing . From the day I took delivery it was in the garage every month . It costs over $12,000 per month to keep it on the road. It was the only VW that VW would not offer an extended warranty . The transmission failed at 37 K and VW sent a mechanic and parts from Germany to our VW in Edmonton to do the repair. When it went in for repairs, it usually was in the shop for 4 to 5 weeks. I put more Kms on the loaner than my Phaeton

hmm i wouldnt say that

@@circuitbreaker8314 I mean the whole front dash is basically the current Touareg

@@circuitbreaker8314 Well it looks better than the S, A8 and 7. Everything looks better than the 7 xD.

They should just release it in electric form

Not amazing. German cars rarely have extensive redesings...but rather small design updates. One of the reasons they also hold the value SH.

A8 platform.. have you specked an a8 in europe. Check out their website. People today know their platforms. Let the bentley badge do the high end.

also, don't forget, the ID 3/4/5. fulfilling orders for the phaeton would have cost a lot and instead, they'd have rather scaled and sold more electric cars, hence at a similar time the e-golf was brought to market

It's a Bentley with a VW badge.

Vw knows how to do luxury cars

Ditched? Maybe VW chose the owners. Very few Phaetons produced perhaps?

@@TFSIChristmas No, this car was ditched. This is the only existing model in the whole world.

@@sarangsp1591 nvm I just found out after watching.

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Deffo looks better than the A8

thanks for sharing your experience!

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Why did you choose the audi Q8?

@@pickle24 Hi Pickle. Interesting question. My 2 Phaetons were owned over 14 years and both were magnificent. I picked my second one up from the GlaserneManufaktur in Dresden in 2010 and it was to my exact specification. We were one of very dew Brits who did that so it was a special and much loved car. I am in my 70's and do no maintenance myself. Took it back to the Factory each year for servicing. In 2020 the car had completed 120,000 utterly trouble free miles but I suspected that there were some rather large bills on the horizon as it was such a complex car. So I reluctantly decided to get rid. Even then it had no squeaks and rattle and ran beautifully. We cried a bit when we saw it off to a Polish gentleman who planned to drive it to Poland each year to see his family. So, we thought long and hard on what to replace it with. An EV was out of the question as they dont work for me and I am not convinced by the whole EV Schtick. We decided that our priorities were anough power, comfort, a bit of special uniqueness....and above all, build quality. After 14 years with the Phaetons we could not have handled a car that rattled. It really was that special. We thought an A8 woud be the natural successor to the P but on driving some demos and reading some of the websites, A8's have a reputation for poor build. So, being in our 70's we decided to go for an SUV. Never had one before but at our age they seemed to make sense for ease of entry and comfort. After alot of test drives we narrowed it down to a BMW X5 or the Q8. And we plumped for the Q8. We liked the styling, the uniqueness.....there aren't too many around.....the comfort and the decent build quality. We chose the 55TFSI over the 50 TDI as diesel seems to be bad news now. After 23,000 miles and 2 long drives to Deutschland we think we have chosen well. No problems, no squeaks and rattles and very comfortable for big miles. It looks good and we have had a ceramic coat put on it. Also calipers painted black as they look ordinary otherwise . The 340 bhp engine pulls it quite well seeing that the car weighs almost 2 and a half tons. Bit of lag in the gearbox but we think that is an Audi software thing that all owners complain at. If I am being picky I wish now I had chosen the SQ8 for the 500 bhp ....but that might come next time. So, in conclusion , the Q8 is a very fine car. However we dont love it like the Phaeton. The P was a very special car and if VW had decided to go ahead with the D2 we would have been first on the list to have orderd one. I hope this isnt too long and is of interest to you

@@mary-roserussell8097 way more interesting answer, kind sir, thank you! It was lovely reading about your insight, thoughts and decisions. Overall, i think your decision is a fine one, seeing as the audi a8 and s8 reportedly have poor build quality, though the q8 might not be all too far ahead, since it's manufactured by the same company. Also, it being an SUV in itself makes it a little more less comfortable on the road than it could have been. Otherwise it's a great vehicle. More than enough power, all the latest and most useful tech and electronics, very stylish and more unique than others. One good alternative for your phaeton though could have been an S class, have you ever looked into that? Anyway thank you for taking the time to reply.

Очень очень жаль Phaeton !😢

Now, I don't it should've been released, because it would undermine the mad genius of the original...

You wouldnt buy it, considering even how the 4 cyl Arteon R is around 55000 usd and nobody bought it because it was too expensive, this would be over a 80 thousand "for a VW"

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The disappointment from the head of design was palpable. He really wanted this to go through.

Beautiful car. The Phaeton never came to my country (South Africa) so if VW does bring it back, hopefully it makes its way down south.

the previous phaeton had actually better quality overall than the A8 and 7 series:)

Phaeton гораздо лучше чем A8! Как жаль что его больше нет

Vw have good quality interiors in his class

1000% agree; this is WAYYYY better looking than the current gen A8

also interior looks better than a8

unforutnately the guy didn't really anzwer why. my guezz for capacitive buttonz iz that they are CHEAPER to make. a [bad] cozt-cutting decizion.

I don't agree. The design on the outside, especially the front, looks kind of dated and the materials used in the interior are also not up to date anymore. The car only looks new because nobody had seen it but it's appearance is certainly not " fresh " ...

@@mart_en Still looks quite modern on the front imo than many other limos. 😊

@@mart_en yeah it looks dated and not up-to-date because its a 2014 concept car??????, but still looks good.

@@rel6294 Don't get your point. Yes, because it is from 2014 it looks dated now. But the post I was answering to said, that it still looks totally modern like it is from 2022 ...

Он же в 2016 должен был быть вроде представлен

Exactly. They should have created a separate division like Toyota did with Lexus, but then you end up with a direct competitor to Audi. Dumb.

It depends. In another case, arguably more people prefer the name "Honda NSX" to "Acura NSX". The VW badge appeals to a set of people who want their luxury subtle.

@@dannyz955 Acura is North American-only badge...even in China, Acura is gone... So..Honda brand still stand alone for rest of the world...

Personally if I was in the market for a luxury sedan I would happily have bought a VW, just to remain as anonymous as possible in such a large luxurious car. That was the appeal of the original too - discreet luxury.

Phaeton should be it's own brand.

Absolutely beautiful design I would definitely buy it one day they should release it with an electric motor hybrid car come on vw

A 2022 concept ?, with this front grille and chrome histeria ? In 2022 where car manufacturers are heading toward tech ev designs? ... No thanks

@@Zenvo-uu9tm Have you looked at the grilles of the 2022 Audi A8, 2022 Mercedes S-Class and 2022 BMW 7-Series? What are you even talking about If anything this grille isnt chromey enough for 2022

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actually, the best thing about the original vw phaeton was, that it had the highest depreciation of any car on the market (mostly because of the brand, which wasn’t associated with luxury cars), around 70% after three years. so you could get a top notch S class level limousine for real cheap on the second hand market ;)

@@kam_iko yes that's true, if only someone bought them in my market. I have seen more W12 Touaregs and V12 TDI Q7 than I've seen Phaetons in the last 5 years for sale. :(

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I dont see anything wrong with sedans. I am 187 cm tall and can comfortly exit and enter sedan. as a matter of fact I own small hatchback kia rio and i do not understand whats all the fuss about the stupid SUVs, If you want space and height then might as well buy a bus or a truck... people ridicoulous nowadays.

Agreed, it must be the ride height because it can’t be styling or driving dynamics. My A6 has some work being done on it and I’ve had a Q7 for the last week and it’s objectively worse in every way. The road feel through the steering wheel is worse, the ride over uneven road surfaces is wayy worse and jiggly, it’s much more jarring over pot holes, it’s slower, it gets around 10mpg worse around the city, it’s not even remotely fun on B roads, the extra height dose not give you that much more visibility, and I could go on. The ONLY redeeming feature is the ride height is nice for entry and exit.

The secret is that people only use that excuse to rationalize for themselves why they are buying an SUV. The biggest reason: Everyone else is doing it. The biggest driving force when people choose a vehicle is what they perceive will make them more accepted by society and their peers. And before that it was that the celebrities did it. Many also buy SUVs because they subconsciously want a vehicle that can do anything. An SUV is also bigger and make people feel safer and like they get more car for their money. Especially insecure people with complexes love the feeling that SUVs give them. Ease of entry/exit has already been addressed with old-people cars like the Mercedes B-class and the BMW 2 series active tourer.

@@jimj2683 That has to be it but I think where I am in the US most people with complexes drive trucks (or Jeep like “manly SUVs”) lol. With that being said, we don’t really have cars like the B class or the 2 Active here so we don’t really have anything besides SUVs for old/reduced mobility people. The closest (and I think only) vehicle we have similar would be the Subaru Crosstrek which I believe is called the XC in Europe.

@@jimj2683 I really don't think the average buyer thinks about what others think as much as that. They only care what they think.

Definitely should I would hope they would bring the Phaeton back very unappreciated vehicle I always liked the Phaeton people didn't even know it was a Bentley with the VW badge and was also built on the same assembly line with the Bentley continental gt and flying spur.

@@shadowthahedgehog33 It is more like the other way :D Bentley is a rebadged VW Group D2 platform car :P

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Agree 100%.

Why wont you buy Arteon then? Too expensive for your taste? This would be double that money, at least.

From the interview you can see they are way too invested in using touch screens and a new design for a Phaeton would not include a steering wheel. They keep making this mobile phones / tablets with some seats, a motor and wheels around it and people think that luxury is a 18" screen on your centre console. Every electric car from VW is like this now, a screen stuck on the console, capacitive button bs on the steering wheel and that's it. Terrible ergonomics inspired by smartphones.

Definitely not

They definitely won't be, because it's been cancelled.