Vox AC15c1: 1x12 🆚 2x12 cab 

Herr Nox awesome comment! Thanks for your support.

Thanks Claudio! I'm a big fan of 1x12 cabs as well.

I’m glad that the content has helped you appreciate your Vox again. I always love to hear stories like that.

Awesome! I'm glad it served it's purpose. I was beginning to wonder if I should just take it down, but if it helped you out then I'll keep it up as it may help others as well. Cheers

@@TheToneLounge It's a very helpful video, hope you do decide to keep it up. 👍🤓👍

@@F3502000 You convinced me. It's staying up! I'm actually working on some new content pertaining to the AC15 and other Vox amps. I hope you tune in to watch them when they come out. Cheers

I'll definately check that out! Thanks man!!

Yeah I definitely want to redo this video in the near future. I think it's an interesting topic.

Glad I could help! In case you missed any videos, here is the playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qRFBYM0r7R4.html

@@TheToneLounge Thanks man! I'll for sure be checking out all your vids. I wanna maximise the sound output of my vox😊

If there is anything I didn't cover, please let me know.

@@TheToneLounge Yeah for sure! Your a underrated as channel. Should have way more subs than you do now. But keep at it! I'm sure you'll get heaps more subs in the near future

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Welcome aboard! Glad that you found the channel and I hope that the content will be helpful. Let me know if there is any topic I have not covered. Cheers

what did you end up with?

Very nice! Was it expensive to upgrade?

@@TheToneLounge Yes. It's about $640 or so to buy two Celestion Alnico Blue speakers made in Ipswich, England.

You should have mixed types, kept one stock. That gets you better tone actually. Missed opportunity.

+JuanRetrofónico I do too. The 1x12 works just fine and works for anything I throw at it. Oh and yes, I’ll keep going! I love nerding out on these videos lol

Agree

Thanks, I will add I used an old dead 4 x 12 cab to make two monitors that are bevelled and run from my amps. ( Hey I made a Marshall useful for more than screaming metal ...lol). I got the speakers online and paid about £300 for them delivered.

That sounds like a very cool setup. I'm considering getting a band together, and would definitely use a 2x12 cab in this instance. I'm contemplating getting a second amp as well. Totally debating getting either an AC10, AC15C2, or a Fender Deluxe Reverb. I play clean and dirty tones, pretty much equally, so having one amp as the clean and the other as dirty would make sense to me. How are you liking your vintage Vox amps? Is there a huge difference between the 41 and 27 year old models?

I enjoyed the WGS speakers, very different voicing than the Celestions for sure. I'm a big fan of Eminence as well. If I had more money, I would do a speaker shootout with different brands.

Thanks for watching!

+Randy Sexual thanks Randy!

Yeah, for this price range, the AC15 is one of the best options on the market. Sure, it lacks a few modern accoutrements, but despite that the amp is just awesome.

Great idea! A 2x12 does project far more on a stage. If you have a separate 1x12, you can set it a bit further from the amp and get even more dispersion.

Thank you! Cheers

Thanks for the info! Cheers

Hi Martin, that amp of yours sounds like a great amp. Let me know what you think of the 2x12 when you try it. Cheers

Yeah, a 2x12 is hard to beat in most scenarios. I do prefer a 1x12 for recording though. More mid focused imho.

Love my Vox .

Thanks you. Are you team 1x12 or 2x12?

@@TheToneLounge looks like I’m going to be team 2x12 with Alnico blues

2x12 is a great configuration, I love it for Live scenarios. Cheers

Same here.

Hey Kevin, That is some fantastic insight my friend. Playing live shows is a steep learning curve, even for veterans. Amps being build with different enclosures and speakers choices means that we have to learn what our amps are great at, and what they need help with. Even in my humble home studio, if I put the amp farther away from the wall, I start to hear a decrease in the bass frequencies. So, I tend to record the AC15 a maximum of three feet away from the wall. Of course, you can always use a mic like an SM57 and close-mic it to benefit from the proximity affect, but if you lost a tonne of bass because you are smack-dab in the middle of a large stage, then the mic won't be able to add what isn't there to begin with. A 2x12 makes way more sense because of the perceived volume increase and the dispersion/spread of the two speakers. Someone on the channel recently brought "beam blocking" to my attention, which is a very interesting topic. I'm experimenting with it right now and I'll be sharing my thoughts on it in an upcoming video. Thanks for the feedback, someone else will be able to read your comment and will benefit from your insight. Cheers

You are right Adam, tone is subjective. The ET65 is a great speaker, and I did enjoy it a lot on it’s own. I even thought of replacing my Greenback with it. In the end I chose to keep the Greenback, as I am familiar with it’s sound. Thanks for your input. Cheers

Also check out this video, if you liked this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qRFBYM0r7R4.html

@@TheToneLounge that one brought me to this video! I'm stoked to try out the EQ hack. I also sent it to a buddy who has his own AC15 so he could check it out too.

Awesome stuff! Let me know how it works for you.

WGS makes some great speakers. Those ET65 sound great with both the Vox and My JCM800.

+Midnight Raiin before you do anything, make sure your cab works with your amps impedence. There is a switch at the back if your amp, you can select 16 or 8 ohms. If your 4x12 is 4 ohms, DON’T plug it in! Your AC15 can only go as low as 8 ohms. Your amp only works with a external speaker (16 ohms) or exterior 2x12 (8 ohms). 4x12 are typically 4 ohms, which would be too hard on your amp. So please make sure to use the appropriate ohms for your amp. Cheers

Arksolva Studio thanks 4 that

@@midnightraiin4035 My pleasure. ;)

That's the thing with speakers, it's always a balancing act. If you play mostly distortion, then you go with the speaker that sounds best. If you play mostly clean, then you go with the speaker that sounds the best. If you play both, then you have to make a hard choice.

That’s what I would do! Two amps for Live is awesome!

@@TheToneLounge What is this "live" you speak of? ;)

You are absolutely right, hence why I mention in the video that I will re-shoot a more accurate comparison video in the future. Thank you for your feedback, much appreciated. Cheers

+Czyszy not yet! It’s part of my solo album, due out...when I have time to lol

+Rock & Roll MD the 1x12 definitely cuts through the mix much better it this scenario. The 2x12, imho, has better spread on stage so you can walk around and hear yourself. The biggest difference I heard is between the ET65 and the Greenback. The ET65 has a much smoother highend which sounds great with clean tones but less aggressive with gain. The Greenback strikes a balance between both.

@@TheToneLounge Your video was very good at showing the difference between the two. Even though they were different speakers, a horizontal 2x12 will have a smoother top end. 1x12's are definitely more directional and punchy, especially in the treble frequencies. If you move 30-45 away from the center, the treble disappears. I've been experimenting with tape on the grill (beam blocking) to block the treble beam in order to spread the high's more evenly for live playing. A horizontal strip of tape across the center simulates 2 vertically aligned speakers and gives very wide sound dispersion of the treble. A vertical strip simulates 2 horizontally aligned speakers and produces a smoother top end on my 1x12 (recorded it on my phone to compare). You can manipulate the sound of a speaker in many ways by taping the grill like SRV, adding/removing back panels etc.

@@rockandrollmd541 I had never heard of this before. Thanks for sharing this tip. I'll definitely have to experiment with this, as I'm curious to the results. Does the tape have to be a certain width?

@@TheToneLounge I found good results with 1.5 inches painter's tape. Duct tape leaves a sticky residue, so I used white painter's tape and painted it black like my grill cloth....invisible and easy to remove :)

Awesome, thanks for the info! 😉

Nikki Beman that’s my favourite one too! Be sure to check back on the channel tomorrow, I have a studio tour where you’ll get to see my other small 1x8 combo!

It really depends on what you need and for what application. For Live, a 4x12 is fantastic, for studio it may or may not be what is wanted. I tend to favour a 1x12 open back for recording clean sounds and classic rock. It’s all a matter of preference.

+Jorge guitar25 I love that idea. That’s a yes! I just need to get my hands on a high gain amp.

Arksolva Studio the peavey 6505 MH lunch box head. Some People say that the cleans suck.

I’ll see if I can get my hands on one.

I think Brian May has some of his AC30's where he swaps out one speaker for another. I believe it's the Silver Bell. And yes, the AC30 has a bigger, and better reverb tank too. But that's not an issue for me, I use a TC Electronics G System for my reverbs.

@@TheToneLounge my low powered 2x12 has the same configuration as BM, 15W Alnico blueback and a 30W G12H30 70th anniversary, both 16 ohms for an 8 ohm load. Absolute paradise!

The different cabinet sizes, speaker sizes and speaker combinations, all affect the tone immensely. I remember trying the AC10 and thinking it had a much better gain than my AC15, but sounded a bit more heavy in bass due to the closed back. I also owned an AC30C1, which sounded different because of it's 1x12 cab, instead of the 2x12. I also had an AC4C1, I got great tones out of that amp, but it sounded very "boxy" due to the small cabinet. At the end of the day, if you dig the Vox sound, you'll be happy with pretty much any of their amps. They all sound fantastic, it's just a matter of finding the right fit for you. Your AC10 has an external speaker jack, 16 ohms if I recall, which means you can use an external cab for Live performances. I prefer the 1x12 for studio situations, but the 2x12 option is very cool for shows. Have you tested your amp with a 2x12 cab?

Unfortunatly not at this time my friend, but it's a part of my future Vox project. That's one Reason of my choise for the AC10C1. I pass a lot of time playing guitar at home but i live in flat for the moment. Also, there is a house project, and the 2x12" speaker cab will be useful then. Sometimes i'm read some review of persons who have changed the celestion 10" for a 12" green or blue back. I think that can be an interesting upgrade to. For finish, the first time where the tubes was rinced on the AC10, i've tested the amp with back panel open, mi-open, or close. That's sound very different too (and changing is free). My choice for the new tubes was TAD premium set. The saturation come later, but the clear sound is more detailled, and theere's more gain than the chinese tubes. The crunch sound better with more basse, and the medium well preserved sound less boxy. less rough. Do you have tested one Vox amp with different speakers type; green back, blue alnico back for exemple?

I have tried it with the WGS ET65, the stock Greenback and a Wharfdale speaker. I'd like to eventually try an Eminence speaker too. What I would really love to get my hands on are either an old Celestion Silver Bell or an old Celestion G12 65. The speaker is a big factor, open vs closed back (as you mentioned) is also very important. I love experimenting with this kind of stuff.

I have a few videos, hopefully they can be of use. If you have anything more specific in terms of questions, I'll be glad to help you. Here are a few video suggestion I am making for you. REAMPING: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QtAhMkW2F4Q.html VOX AC15 SERIES: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qRFBYM0r7R4.html

I am pretty sure that they do. They even make a 2x12 cab as well.

@@TheToneLounge I just checked and could only find the 2x12 so I don't think they make a 1x12 the size of an AC15. Seems like it would sell very well if they did.

An AC15 with a 4x10? That's got my attention. I bet this sounds awesome. What speakers are in there?

@@TheToneLounge Celestion G10L-35s

The ac15 head is great if you intend to use different cabinets with it. There is also a power scale, which is great for home use.

@@TheToneLounge Sorry but I am quite a zero on this subject - may I ask - why would I use a different cabinet. Do you mean if I want to use an acoustic guitar amp can I use that with the ac15 head?

It's all about the flexibility that a head gives you. You can hook it up to any matching cabinet (matching in terms of their impedance). So if you try a cab with certain speakers and don't like them, you can hook up the amp to something different and not have to take the amp apart to swap out the speakers. A combo amp requires you to take out a lot of parts just to swap out the speaker. If you don't like it, you have to start over again. It's quite time consuming. Acoustic guitars and electric guitar amps are not a good match, so I would not recommend it. The acoustic guitar sounds thin and honky when hooked to an electric guitar amp. And never, ever plug one amp to another amp. That would be a terrible mistake.

@@TheToneLounge Johnathan thank you for your patience and the time you took to explain this to me. Very clear now.

Hey Meenzer, the 2x12 is a great sound. I especially liked it in the room. It just had mire body and the ET65 were indeed much smoother. The SM57 is perfect for guitar, but I also dig the Aston Origin. Cheers

For home use you should be fine with a 1x12. That is what I use ere in my studio. The 2x12 will give you more low end, which might not be what you want in an apartment. The 2x12 is not much louder at lower volumes, it's when you crank it up that you have a bit more perceived loudness and more dispersion.

@@TheToneLounge Thanks. The main idea is that the 2 speaker AC15 is huge for the living room, even bigger than my DSL40 (which in the room appears as quite big). And it is a very heavy beast. I have an aftermarket Creamback G12-65, that I bought for my DSL, i might put that one in the AC15C1 after a couple of weeks to see how it sounds, if I decide to get an AC15C1 (honestly would be the smart choice here, not to want more than I can handle which is a C2:))) ). The only thing I am concerned is that the controls on the AC15 to work in favorable way on the normal channel to use with my JHS AT+ pedal. Thanks a lot for the reply and watching your videos also helped a lot. I did not think it was possible to to put together a pedal like that with a Vox before. Hope I will get close results as with the AC30C2 but at lower volumes obviously Cheers!

@@TheToneLounge SO i finally bought an AC15C1. Love the amp. Using it like this: Top Boost Channel (Bass and Treble at 3 o clock - 75%). The volume (gain) and Master at 9 o clock with the tone cut almost all the way engaged (at 8,5-9/10) and with the Andy Timmons JHS pedal engaged with EQ/Air rolled off at 11o clock. It is the best tone I ever had and the best tone I played through. It is almost the same with Andy's tone in the studio. Thanks for the video and explaining and everything. Made my decision easy enough :) Cheers.!!

@@vladzubac5360 This makes my day! I'm really happy you got the amp and are getting tones that inspire you. That was the point of making these videos. I'm glad they were helpful. Enjoy the new amp! Cheers

@@TheToneLounge Thank you very much! Cheers! :)

It’s relative to what you need and want. If you think of it in this way, if one was better then the other, companies would focus on the better one. They each have their place. I prefer a single speaker amp for home use and recording, but for Live I prefer at least a 2x12.

@@TheToneLounge thanks a lot dude!

My pleasure!

Are you using them as a wet/dry rig?

Yeah, the speaker choice and cab size is really important. On a big stage with a heavy rock band, I'll take a 4x12 all day long. For just about every other style of music, I love the sound of a good 1x12.

With a 2x12 you can have two different speakers, so more tonal flexibility. I would go with that.

@@TheToneLounge oh wow thanks man that was a fast reply. And do you think i can get close to 1x12 sound with 2x12 but only one speaker is working?

The cab has a huge impact on tone. So a 2x12 with only 1 speaker will sound different than a 1x12 cab. It’s all about what tone you want.

Less is less, more is more! :)

Well, I understand what you are saying but having been recording since 2007, I’ve tested this and I’m certain at this point that the size of the cab and the extra speaker really does impact the tone, even if you use a single mic. As for the 2x12 being the same volume, I did mention a perceived loudness difference in the room but not in the recording. Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. Cheers

Hi Brendan, I don't know for sure. Amp wise, the breakup is the same since it is tube driven. In terms of the speakers breaking up, they start to distort at much higher volumes. So you will get more early breakup from the 1x12 and a tad more headroom with the 2x12. Hope that helps. Cheers

@@TheToneLounge Thank you. I mainly play in a situation where our PA is between 95/98db in a somewhat large building. My amp is usually mic'd and on stage, so I'm trying to find the right amp combo to get me an output that won't overtake our stage sound, but still enough that I can hear well enough for personal reference. That's probably mid 60's db. The more headroom the better in my opinion, but I do like to sit right at the edge of breakup where picking really dictates my clean/heavy tones. Will be using with a decently loaded pedal board as well.

@@Emmy_206 like I mentioned in the video, you will get more "perceived" loudness, as the 2 speakers projects far more to the sides than the 1x12. Without getting significantly louder, you will have far more "presence" than the 1x12. In terms of dB gained with the 2x12 cab, it feels louder for sure. I estimate that it's probably something like a +3db boost, which feels like a lot.

Sounds good to me! Can't wait to try it out.

I prefer the 1x12 also. In the room I liked the 2x12 better, but upon playback the 1x12 sounded much better. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers

+profd65 looks like the app on my phone made me miss half of your reply, sorry about that. To answer your question properly: I’ve tried the JC40 and thought it was cool for clean tones. I’m not a fan of the distortion I heard. The chorus was very cool but I’m not much of a chorus guy. Demos are tricky because the viewer is at the mercy of the content creator’s ability to do a product justice. I’m not saying I capable of such, but I sure try. What is your price range and what sound are you going for?

@@TheToneLounge I'm willing to go up to about a grand. I'd like something loud enough that I'd be able to play with a drummer; I'm thinking 15 tube watts is probably adequate but just barely. When it comes to sound, I suppose I'm looking for a "vintage" rock sound more than anything else--old Rolling Stones, the Ventures, etc. I'd also like to be able to play harder stuff credibly (punk rock, Nirvana-esque stuff), but I have no need or desire to play modern metal or anything with a ton of gain. At the moment, I have a Les Paul Jr. and a Charvel, as well as a little one watt Blackstar tube amp. The Blackstar sounds good and is surprisingly loud, but obviously isn't up to playing with a drummer. Yea, the Roland Jazz Chorus is known for having crappy distortion, at least the old JC 120's were. I guess the JC40 has a better distortion, but it's probably nothing to write home about either. But I do really like the clean sound, and bands like the Smiths and the Cure (two bands I like) used JC 120's back in the day. But I'm not going to want to play clean all the time, and that's the problem with the Jazz Chorus (or rather that's the problem with not being able to afford a Jazz Chorus as well as another amp that sounds good with some dirt on it). I suppose my best bet all things considered would be to get the AC15 or a Fender of some sort--something that can do clean and do relatively dirty. Thanks for taking the time. Sorry for the insufferably long comment.

@@profd65 never apologize for leaving awesome comments, this is why I made the video, so I could help out fellow musicians. With $1000 you have a lot of choices. You could go new or used, but used is ill advised if you don't know what to look for. So if you want to go used, take someone with you IF you are not used to it. Otherwise, used has the most choices for that budget. New is obviously a bit more limited in terms of options, but you do get a brand new amp with the warranty. In terms of amp models, and the styles you referred to, I will give you some suggestions. First, let's establish that watts do not equal decibels. So a 15 watts tube amp can be very loud. The AC30 can easily keep up with with 50 and even 100 watt amps. Here are a few models to look at: Orange Rocker 30, they can be found used for less than a grand (usually about $700 here in Canada), has good clean and awesome classic rock tones. Vox AC15, I am biased but I think this one is a no brainer. Loud enough to keep up with a drummer, has a great clean tone and work amazingly well with pedals. The distortion gets those classic rock tones down to a T. Fender Deluxe Reverb 68, in my humble opinion is a fantastic amplifier. Sounds killer and is plenty loud for most applications. I have that one on my list. New they are over your budget, but used can fit in your budget if you look often enough on craigslist. The Blues Junior and Bassbreaker 15 might also be worth checking out. Let me know if you have anymore questions. ;)

There is a glut of pristine AC15s out there. Lot of fun for not much money.

as long as your cab is 16 ohms, and you plug into an extension cab, then you are good.

In the video, I am comparing the 1x12 in the AC15 combo, compared to an external cabinet that has 2x12. There is an AC15 that comes stock with 2x12 speakers. At some point, I intend to compare both the stock 1x12 combo to the stock 2x12.

The TB is a killer pedal!

I like the 2x12 the best I think, it seems to have more bottom and fuller sounding. I used an 1x12 closed back ext cab with mine last weekend at an outdoor gig, and it seemed to project better and had much more punch .. Great videos, Thanks :D

I agree, the extra speaker pushes more air and disperses the sound much better than a 1x12 could. Thanks for your feedback. Cheers

Wet/dry is still something I need to experiment with. Perhaps this would be a cool topic for a future video? ;)

@@TheToneLounge Yes indeed! There are a number of different ways to do this. Mick and Dan from "That Pedal Show" put the "dry effects" (overdrives/distortions/fuzzes) into BOTH amps but "wet effects" (reverb/delays/modulation) only into one amp. They go into great detail about the reasons for this (which make perfect sense to me) on their channel which is well worth checking out.

Those guys are awesome, I love their channel. I’ll give that video a watch as I may purchase another amp in the future. So many sonic possibilities.

@@TheToneLounge They did a couple of great videos where they used a valve amp for the "dry" and a transistor amp for the "wet". I particularly liked that, as I plan to use my AC15 for the "dry" (natural valve goodness) and my Boss Katana Artist for the "wet" (on a clean setting with tons more headroom).

@@ruiseartalcorn I have to watch that video lol Sounds like a cool setup. I have my eye on a Roland JC40 or a Blues Cube.

Yeah, I agree with your observations. A 2x12 has more presence and dispersion of the signal on a stage.

Hi Margoreth, My first concern would be that 2x12 cab. Does it match the impedance of your AC10? Your AC10 should most likely be 16 ohms, so before pulling the trigger on that Mesa cab be sure that it's a 16 ohm cab. Mismatching ohms can result in premature wear or even damage to your amp. As far as tone, it depends what is loaded into that Mesa cab. From my past experience with Mesa, these come loaded with either Black Widow or Vintage 30's. I can't speak on the Black Widow with a Vox, but the V30 is a great speaker. How would that change your core tone? It would be neither good or bad, just different. I have a video, which I will link below, where I show what different speakers sound like with a Vox. Hopefully that can help you in your purchasing decision. I hope that answers your question. Cheers LINK: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ldespBN0MLs.html

@@TheToneLounge thank you for getting back to me, the Mesa 2 12 matches the ohms of the vox . I think I will stick with Mesa if there's no massive difference , I'm okay with different as long as some of the qualities of the vox sound are still present

As I stated previously, there will be a tonal difference but it is not a bad thing. I’ve been experimenting with a V30 in my AC15 for about 3 months and I dig it. The Greenback is more my style, but I could easily adopt the V30 as my main speaker. Let me know if you get that cab, I would love to hear your thoughts.

@@TheToneLounge for sure, thanks again

Is it a tone thing, or just a volume preference?

I totally see the point.

@@TheToneLounge sorry I didn't see your question, Jonathan. It is a tone thing, but even more so a wattage handling thing. Blues are great for 15 watt heads and combos, but will blow with 30, 50 or 100 watt amps.

Very true Richard. When I interned at Blue Wave studio in Vancouver, I got to talk with other audio engineers, the consensus with them was that a 4x12 and 2x12 was still louder then a 1x12, even if single mic'ed, since the mic was not completely rejecting the audio source from the sides. Due to the close proximity of the other speakers, the mic could still pick up signals coming from the left and right. Since the SM57 is not hyper-cardioid, it's not totally rejecting the source from both sides, but I was surprised to find out that in this particular instance it had no effect on loudness.

@@TheToneLounge good point about off-axis sound. I think the proof is in the pudding, though: in this case, it seems that a close mic that's on one speaker of a pair is no louder than the same mic on a single speaker. I think it will depend largely on the distance between the SM57 and the speaker it's aimed at too. If it's right up to the grill, the inverse square law is going to mean that 99% of the sound it picks up is coming from just that speaker. If you back it out to 12 inches, you're definitely going to get quite a bit of the second speaker. One more thought: if both cabs are fed by a 15 watt amp, those 15 watts are being split two ways in the dual-speaker configuration, meaning that the single-speaker might actually end up being louder than one speaker out of the two-speaker config. Or perhaps these factors cancel each other out?

You know Terry, it's hard to get the sound of any artist due to the fact that the mic, preamps, console, EQ, Compressor, and tape machines and the room all contribute to the final sound that you hear and love. Expecting your new amp to sound like that is not realistic. However, you can get your own sounds out of that amp that can be just as awesome. My Vox sounds like a Vox should, but I am also getting tones that are not classic tones, and that is what I love about these amps. The diverse range of possible tones at hand. I'm glad that the content on this channel is helping people bond with their amps. These amps are kind of hard to figure out at first, but once you understand them, they are absolutely killer sounding rock machines.

@@TheToneLoungeYou may have misread my reply. Just, in case - I was praising the amp in spite of the criticisms and my personal experience when I bought one. It was very, "Okay, It sounds like I'm not going to get THAT sound out of my Strat, but let's lose some high's, bring up the lo-end and...hey! I like this sound even more!" In my case, some guitar stores that I had a good relationship w/ would keep steering me away from Vox's. Telling me how many guys would bring them back w/in a week, stuff like that. (these guys were aware of sounds I was into, preferences, pedals, etc.) Except, every time I plugged in to one it felt like home. When I finally made up my own mind the guys were all, rolling their eyes, "Okay, see you in a week when you bring it back". I never brought it back. :) I was going to mention the things you added b/c even patch chords influence the tone you get. So, Amen to all of that brother! We seem to forget that you could plug straight into the actual artist's rig of the tone you want and you're still NOT going to sound like them. Influences are cool, but so are you. Somewhere in the middle you'll find your own signature tone, which I think is way cooler than sounding like somebody else. "Funny", wrap up. My friend bought a 2 speaker Dr. Z. I thought it had the coolest tone ever, but my friend was pissed off b/c he couldn't get it to sound like my ORANGE AD-15. A little analogy, as to what we're discussing put in a domestic light over the big time celebrity w/ an entire crew of technician's who also play a big role in the tone your chasing. Stop chasing, start playing, keep searching. These thing's have a way of finding you, as well.

@@terrywitzu7874 I understood, I think I poorly communicated my idea. I should have re-read myself lol. The Orange AD15, is that like a Vox type of amp?

@@TheToneLounge I love how quick you guys are to reply! I also just wanted to make sure that I was clear - Lol. The AD-15 is similar in that it's a very weird amp in it's own way. If you remember early 2000's Orange started making amps again, out of nowhere. I was out w/ the actual intention of finding an amp and putting it on lay-away. I had decided on a Vox, or Hiwatt (funny, how Hiwatt's were much easier to find than Vox's at the time). I walk into the very first store and into this strange dimension where there was a single ORANGE head (they hadn't even started building cabinets yet) and a single speaker ORANGE (the AD-15). After a shocked, and pleasant "WTF?" to the entire store they filled me in on how Orange just started up again out of London, were hand-wiring the damn things, and the head and AD15 were all they released so far (they didn't even have the weird heiroglyphic tone controls!). Hell's yes, I grabbed it! It has been compared to the Vox tone-wise, but a little rounder w/ more warmth. The real awesome thing is it's notoriety for being played alongside, or w/ a Vox. (Sorry for the lengthy re-cap). What's weird and frustrating (like the Vox:) is that it's simple Master, Lo, Mid, Hi, Gain interface is much less reactive than other amps w/ the same simple interface. It's like the EQ tends to "shade" the tone rather than dramatically alter it (best way to describe). Simply reducing the Lo for less Bass just doesn't cut it. If you want to reduce the Lo end (in this example) you have to fiddle w/ all 3 EQ's, even the Master and Gain sometimes. This is probably why I was so patient w/ my AC15. The AD15 can be either way too bright, or way too muddy, but once you dial it all in you've got one of the warmest most accomodating amps you've ever heard. I've looked up how the circuitry works and it's way over my head compared to A, AB, and AC (As in 2 page explanation vs. the paragraph it can take to explain the other models). Look it up on-line and you'll find nothing but forums of people crying about why they got rid of their's for a Bad Cat, for eg. They were replaced by that silly "Tiny Terror", and are rare as any amp you could think of (b/c we're all taking our's to our grave). If you see one - GRAB IT! To digress, I've never had the luxury, but there are posted forums that compare the Orange to a Vox. There is a large consensus as to matching these two amps for the "ideal" sound. Whether it's one guitarist playing through both, or two guitarists w/ one playing a Vox and the other an Orange. There's something missing from the abundant Orange models we see now that don't capture the AD15, but I really can't put my finger on it. I don't think there are even vids on the AD15. all in all, I can say that if you like the Vox, you'll like the Orange (AD15, or whatever). You'd also have the luxury of pairing them up which is something you'd really enjoy, I'm sure. Might be worth a vid, as they've been constanty compared and considered soul-mates by a lot of players (not that I want to see you shift your attention away from the Vox). Sorry, if my reply is a bit bombastic. It's an enjoyable conversation, and gear talk amongst players? You know how that goes.:) Final clincher, I have yet to find anyone able to explain to me how AD cuircitry works. Any vids have some idiot referencing the D as "Digital", which is proposterous. Expert-testimony from a guy who is totally winging it with suppositions. So, even the YT guys don't get it either. Haha. :)

Yeah, RU-vid experts are a dime a dozen. I'm no expert, just a dude loving messing around with gear. I bet I would have fun with that AD-15. I use to own a Rocker 30, which was cool but not quite my thing. I would love to give Orange another go. Especially now that I live in the EU. In Canada, Orange are worth a fortune and not all store have them. I heard that Laney has a similar Vox inspired amp too. Gosh, so much gear, so little money lol

I did a more accurate test with IRs. If you care to watch, here is the link! Cheers LINK: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z5KNHLhX4EI.html

Interesting idea! I will see what I can do. 😉

Very interesting! I've never heard that song before, but I admit it does sound similar. Cheers

It would have a bit less bass and a bit more mid frequency punch. It also depends on the speaker.

I've owned mine since 2017 and have never had any issues. Where they are made is not as important then how they are made. From what I can tell, Korg has an excellent QC.

@@TheToneLounge thanks a lot

Recorded with an SM57, I recorded D.I. Tracks for each performances, and reamped after.

@@TheToneLounge what re amp box do you use?

I used the Radial Reamp.

Yeah, the "spread" of a 2x12 with effects is so much cooler than the focused and narrow 1x12. What types of effects are you using?

Nice! I've never seen a cab construction like that before. I use to have one of those neodymium 12" in my AC30C1. It was a pretty cool speaker, as I recall. Thanks for sharing!

Arksolva Studio Yeah man, I have never heard so much bass from a single 12” speaker before I made this cab. If I block off the back and make it closed back, it’s super jazzy.

+jonnda I’d be curious to hear that. Goes to show how important the cab is to the overall tone.

@@TheToneLounge Oh yeah, I was so ignorant about that for so long. I could come up with a video that compares the internal 10" speaker of an AC4TV with this external 12", but it's not a perfect comparison. Someone else's build: www.maizingrayz.com/ax84_1x12_cab.html

...And here’s a quick vid I just shot to show off my simple woodworking skills until a real demo can be created. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3z2pDWnCAWc.html

It does have it's advantages, using a 2x12. I just prefer the more focused sound of a 1x12. Each their own really. Both work great, it all depends what you need.

@@TheToneLounge its true i know. Its just if you are gigging pubs or such small venues its only extra weight =D i just changed my 2x12 laney for an ac15 1x12 and i couldnt be happier, better sound more practical easier to carry etc

I completely agree. The extra weight is hard to justify, especially on a small stage in a tiny bar. It also depends on the band, the style of music and size of venue. How are you liking your AC15 so far?

@@TheToneLounge i went to the store to buy stratocaster and in the future i planned on buying ac15 so i tried strat out and asked if they can plug it on the vox i am also interested in... one week later i came back and bought the vox so the strat is a project for next year =D its amazing it truely is, warm sound with that little crunch, i think im in love =D currently using a semi hollow ibanez with it and its really good as well and it will be even better with strat. The story and the amp are only a month old im still buzzing from excitment, only had 2 gigs with it so far but its perfect!

@@seanachiescourt6659 The AC15 sounds great with a Strat. I like to add a Tumnus or Green Rhino for boosting leads with a Strat and AC15. It cuts through a mix like nothing else.

Yeah, wish I was rich enough to afford a roady lol

1x12 is perfect for home studio use.

In person? I agree. In a mix, it's getting harder to hear the differences.

I love it too.

Sorry my friend, my Spanish is not very good. Maybe someone will translate at some point. Cheers

Interesting. How would you define the realism that you hear?

@@TheToneLounge A little hard to describe. It sounds more like what you hear when you listen to recorded music, whereas the 1x12 sounds small and not "true to size". Like it's limiting the ability of the guitar.

A 2x12 cab always looks cooler. lol Have you tried one yet?

@@TheToneLounge yeah i own a c2. I’ve never tried the voxac30 c1 tho

Each their own. I play single coils 90% of the time.

What do you prefer about the 2x12?

I like it too, depending on the situation.

I feel the same lol

+rigginglis 007 AC30’s are fantastic amps

Two AlNiCo Blues?

@@TheToneLounge reply No, actually. A blue and a G12H30 70th anniversary (it's just the perfect speaker and pairs well with blue, green and even V30s). Check one out if you can. :)

AC30's are monsters! Great amps.

I dig the 2x12 for Live, prefer the 1x12 for studio.

Sure is. Cheers