Vuelta a España 2024 Route Reaction | Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast

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In this episode Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen analyse the 2024 Vuelta a España route.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:19 Race overview
00:06:30 Stage-by-stage analyses
00:52:00 Rating the route
00:55:30 Which GC rider suits the route?
00:58:56 Outro

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23 июл 2024

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Комментарии : 97

@davekashuba4730 7 месяцев назад

How these guys can remember so many details from so many races just blows my mind. I've probably done about 100 races in my life and can only remember about 10 even though I was IN THE RACE!

@ThisIsANameBruh 7 месяцев назад

to be fair, you don't really have enough oxygen to spare for your brain when you're racing 🤣🤣

@Queen-be6md 7 месяцев назад

They're working professionals which are constantly interacting with the cycling world. If you watch all the races of the calendar and reach a bunch of articles from journalists then you normally will have all the information in your mind.

@Lion-wd1px 6 месяцев назад

@@Queen-be6mdagree

@kelldub78 7 месяцев назад

Santi Cazorla 😂 Please never stop slipping in the references to other sports, LR!

@Feraoteph 7 месяцев назад

Thanks to these guys, I can never remember what the real name of the BingoBongo tour is 😅😂❤

@LarsRyeJeppesen 7 месяцев назад

Isn 't that the real name?

@kimiopn 7 месяцев назад

Lisbon is known as the 7 hill city and actually people make that an obstacule to have more bike riding on it. The time trial on the starts on one edge of the city and goes through the coast to end next to a beach so it's pretty flat and wind might be a factor. I'm gonna be there on that day, hope you guys are too and we can eat a pastel de Belém!

@indioshak 7 месяцев назад

I was going to provide the very same explanation. I will just add that Lisbon has so many wavy, labyrinth like roads with cobbles that are somewhere in between Roubaix and Flandres. They could have made an amazing stage.

@erdnagama 7 месяцев назад

Lisboa is very very hilly, but the TT route is by the river. You guys should come to the start, you will really enjoy yourself.

@floam11 7 месяцев назад

The itt is along the coast in a mostly flat road, good scenery

@chrisrouisse1690 7 месяцев назад

Lanterne Rouge giving naming advice is hilarious

@paulgilliland2992 7 месяцев назад

Stage 2 is going to be interesting. Leaving Cascais going north can be super windy at times. I rode my bike there 2 years ago and it was a block headwind more or less for a long time.

@DaM.1 7 месяцев назад

The middle part of Stage 1 goes through my local roads. I'm so excited to see the WT peloton doing some of the roads I use for training! Also, the beggining of that stage has some notoriously dangerous points (road condition mainly), let's hope nobody goes down in the first kms of the Vuelta.

@mattpotter8725 7 месяцев назад

That's Ineos screwed then (not that they need much help in doing that these days)!!!

@albertlyngpetersen8702 7 месяцев назад

If it is going to be Vingegaard vs Roglic I wonder what advantage Jumbo will have given they must have so much info about Roglic strengths and weaknesses. They might know details that the public doesnt. Also, I think Skjelmose will be competitive against Roglic in the small steep finishes. We saw him in Fleche this year getting second behind Pogi after a bad position. But then again, I might be biased since I'm Danish.

@LarsRyeJeppesen 7 месяцев назад

I'm fine just give me a bike

@JCNvid 6 месяцев назад

Portuguese here: S1) ITT is flat along side the river/sea, so expect wind, on the right side of the riders in normal scenario. S2) Loads of wind in the first 40KM! could be issues due to seasonal forest fire in the last KMs S3) If the arrival is the same as th local volta, it is a fast narrow uphill drag with Cobblestone.

@JCNvid 6 месяцев назад

stage 3 is also forest fire prone.

@czeckson74 7 месяцев назад

59:00 when i look at the Alaphillipe "new kit" video, times of the deseved wolfpack are gone - more likely love parade pack would fit

@pwijnands81 4 месяца назад

great show

@donsolomon8501 7 месяцев назад

You guys are expecting a Jonas racing Poggie, with no Poggie Jonas is going to take more risks and attack more.

@tristanowens3705 7 месяцев назад

We're going to get the same people on the podium but in a different order.

@Greg.Sutton 7 месяцев назад

Yep - keeping kits / colours similar is right. For too long cycling teams have been unable to build a brand due to the way the sponsorship / team name thing has worked. Its was nearly impossible to build fan loyalty like in Football (soccer) for instance. Wolfpack kind of cuts through this - remains to be seen if it does if the team changes name / sponsor from Quickstep and with that the brand colours etc.

@joebriggs8422 7 месяцев назад

58:29 "Yellow B". In my area there is a ~196 mile running relay race from Mt. Hood to the Oregon coast. It began in the early 80's, and in the early years a team of elite runners named Killer B's were frequent winners. Then a new elite team named Black Flag upset them.

@igorpiasecki7909 7 месяцев назад

28:08 5k@12% sounds like Puy de Dome

@rebeccabertrand3335 7 месяцев назад

I'm so hyped for a Rogla Tour Vuelta double 💪

@Pandametal_ 7 месяцев назад

so much medium mountain that's crazy

@joaoribeiro9336 7 месяцев назад

As a Portuguese fan, all 3 stages, even the TT, are a bit underwhelming. They go right besides Serra da Estrela where they could have used the Torre climb, one of the mythical Portuguese climbs of the Grandíssima. I guess the organizers wanted to have a steady start with stages for sprinters here, because they chose not to host them in Spain 😅

@DaM.1 7 месяцев назад

The stage that goes through Torres Vedras is actually really good

@joaoribeiro9336 7 месяцев назад

@@DaM.1 I really hope that the hilly terrain makes the race hard and exciting, with multiple quality breakaway riders, but the fact that it is so early in the race makes me think that the team with the red jersey chase the break and leave it for the sprinters to decide.

@andreim1270 7 месяцев назад

Jonas cooks everyone on stage 15, 16 and 20

@thomasharteveld9614 7 месяцев назад

I love to see Adam Yates compete for the victory or like Jay Vine to step up into real GC territory. Or Evenepoel. Is it confirmed Remco won't ride Vuelta?

@toddo2006 7 месяцев назад

He said his ambitions for 2024 are LBL, TdF, Olympics and World's. I didn't hear him state that he wouldn't do the Vuelta but with it being between Olympics and World's I would highly doubt it. In the same interview he said July is the most important month of his life with TdF and Olympics

@rossmurray6849 7 месяцев назад

Patrick, have you heard of a country called Australia, i.e. the one south of Asia, not the one next to Germany? Its capital, Canberra, is inland from Sydney and just short of 600m in elevation.

@rdklkje13 7 месяцев назад

And I was checking the comments to see if anyone else has pointed out that Andorra la Vella is a capital city at 1,023 m elevation. I guess we'll leave La Paz, Tehran, Kathmandu etc for another time 🤣🤣🤣

@rossmurray6849 7 месяцев назад

@@rdklkje13 You're a bit harsh, I think, if you include landlocked countries like Andorra, Bolivia, and Nepal. I was mostly surprised Patrick overlooked Canberra - the capital of the country he is from!

@rdklkje13 7 месяцев назад

@@rossmurray6849 Oh, I certainly didn’t intend to be harsh. For me these are simply the most obvious, precisely cos a coastal (capital) city isn’t even an option in such countries. But especially cos he lives in (very close to?) one of these capital cities and sees those Andorran mountains every time he looks out the window 🙃 But I guess that’s far away while in Brisbane, as is Canberra by the sounds of it 😂

@rossmurray6849 7 месяцев назад

@@rdklkje13 I'm just having a bit of fun. Australians love teasing each other whenever they detect a silly mistake. But I take your point. It's hard to tell whether overlooking the country he was raised in, or the one where he now lives, is the more egregious. FYI about why Australia's capital city is Canberra. Up until 1901 the six states of Australia were independently governed colonies. When they voted to join in a federation the two largest cities, Sydney and Melbourne, were both unwilling to agree to the other one becoming the capital city. So a new city was built in between them to become the capital. It's closer to Sydney, about 300km to the south-west from it.

@abp1400 7 месяцев назад

If WVA isn't going to TDF like he says he isn't, he rides here.

@leightintle2940 6 месяцев назад

For Visma's official nom de guerre I'm going to go with "The Bee Swarm" or maybe just "The Swarm." They already have the unofficial "Killer Bees," so I don't think they'll be moving to hornets or wasps, and who gets close to a bee swarm and doesn't get a bit of primal fear?

@pizdaloverbby 7 месяцев назад

1st time trial is made near the coast. No hills through there

@ile1973 7 месяцев назад

To 5 star weak foot Santi cazorla😂😂😂😂

@rkentwenger5095 7 месяцев назад

Patrick, Don't forget about Quito and La Paz for high-elevation capital cities...

@mattpotter8725 7 месяцев назад

Or Katmandu!!!

@mattpotter8725 7 месяцев назад

And less obvious ones like Brasilia or Jo-burg/Pretoria.

@matejstankovic9843 7 месяцев назад

@@mattpotter8725 Kathmandu is at less than 1500m

@mattpotter8725 7 месяцев назад

@@matejstankovic9843 Last time I checked that's not sea level, nearly a mile up. I know La Paz is higher, but since it's the highest capital city it's hard to complete against on those grounds.

@rdklkje13 7 месяцев назад

Andorra la Vella isn't exactly sea level either, at 1,023 m 🤣🤣🤣

@olikid7282 7 месяцев назад

The B flats

@gsipp00 7 месяцев назад

Transfers in the South quite lengthy...wtf no Pyrenees?Olympics makes guessing who will show up a bit of an unknown

@wilvanveen3290 7 месяцев назад

What did I miss? Visma Lab announced Kuss will go as defending champ to Vuelta. Why no mention of him?

@traderz13 7 месяцев назад

I would guess that despite starting the meme, they dont really believe in GC Kuss.

@Infiltator2 6 месяцев назад

Because Kuss won’t win it again as this one will ve highly competitive till the end and he won’t get in a break as he did this year

@Infiltator2 6 месяцев назад

It will be really interesting if Roglic can be put in the position to win with a team like Bora. Jumbo definitely has the team advantage with also knowing exactly what Roglic is capable of. Therefore i don’t thonk Roglic will win as many stages and Vingegaard will not be as careful as with Pogi i think

@Queen-be6md 6 месяцев назад

Roglic still has the better uphill sprint advantage he's shown for years.

@melchiorfrick5336 7 месяцев назад

You didn't mention UAE once in this entire podcast, even though they will probably send about 4 GC riders as usual 😂 you were a bit too focused on vingegaard roglic in my opinion

@rdklkje13 7 месяцев назад

They did mention Almeida, at the start.

@LarsRyeJeppesen 7 месяцев назад

They did. Re-watch

@strupotter 7 месяцев назад

Visma-LAB Hornets slaps

@xtrachrisb488 7 месяцев назад

Why does the vuelta visit Portugal so infrequently?

@DaM.1 7 месяцев назад

Money

@mattpotter8725 7 месяцев назад

Because it's a Spanish race not a Portuguese one?

@TheRealBlueSwan 7 месяцев назад

I kinda doubt that Jonas rides the Vuelta this year. Last year looked really attractive for him with finishes on Tourmalet and Angliru, this year not so much. Also, there might be a feeling that Kuss should be allowed to try to defend his title with a full squad. IDK, I hope I am wrong.

@thomasharteveld9614 7 месяцев назад

Wielerflits said they will look after the Tour if he will do Vuelta. So Jonas might do the Vuelta

@MDP1702 7 месяцев назад

I think it is pretty certain he'll ride it unless he feels too tired after the TdF or such.

@Infiltator2 6 месяцев назад

Kuss won’t have a chance this time. He got up there because he was let in the break to gain minutes and was then never completely attacked by Roglic and Vingegaard. Both thinks are different 2024

@joelecho 6 месяцев назад

@@Infiltator2 Depends... Roglic is riding the tour beforehand, so he's guaranteed at least 2 crashes there, so he might not be in peak form. If they're all in peak form I agree, Kuss hasn't a chance. But if for some reason the two heavy hitters are there with bad prep, then he's got an outside chance, for sure.

@Infiltator2 6 месяцев назад

Yes if Jonas and Promiz are out of shape he has a chance. But tbh. last year Jonas only decided after the tour that he would do the vuelta so his prep should be better this year. But lets see @@joelecho

@adshdhhhd7783 7 месяцев назад

I am in Portugal, cycling here, next to Lisbon, and I agree that the Portuguese stages are disappointing, especially with the cobbles and hills that are available here...

@DC-lu5qs 7 месяцев назад

Heavy medium mountain pit bull

@runningforasthma_ 7 месяцев назад

Wu-Tang need to sponsor Visma Lab

@gulfgal98 6 месяцев назад

The 2024 Vuelta is all Medium Mountains and Light Medium Mountains. LMAO

@jarrodfife242 7 месяцев назад

Matt Dinham will win a stage for sure

@mattpotter8725 7 месяцев назад

I'd guess the Vuelta isn't going to the Pyrenees because France has the Olympics and to do many of the climbs you'd have to enter France that's a no no because of the policing cost. Also with the Basque Country having the start of the TdF last year and being quite heavily in last year's Vuelta (as well as Catalonia having the start, and being a catastrophe) they are staying away from it this time.

@joewakelin198 7 месяцев назад

u guys are sleeping on adam yates for the gc battle

@jeffschmid2538 7 месяцев назад

The real question.....Does it suit Sepp?

@anciify 7 месяцев назад

the real question: are these commentators or Visma payees?

@jeffschmid2538 7 месяцев назад

No love for the defending champion?

@Queen-be6md 7 месяцев назад

He won't be allowed in the breakaway this time and he'll face roglic, I doubt he has any chance.@@jeffschmid2538

@adshdhhhd7783 7 месяцев назад

Kuss is especially good in high attitude stages and very hard climbs, not sure this Vuelta is a fit...

@LarsRyeJeppesen 7 месяцев назад

@alexanderstevens2699 7 месяцев назад

Yellow Jackets???

@michaelglidewell1524 7 месяцев назад

Visma should call themselves "the swarm"

@robertchandler587 7 месяцев назад

Are “fake news climbs” deceptively hard or easy? Or can be both?

@hisdadjames4876 7 месяцев назад

I think both…. The more variable the gradient (eg incl descents!) the harder it is, because there must be sections way above average gradient. The more constant the gradient (with wide roads and extended draughting possibilities) the easier. Always compared to the climb’s defined length and average gradient, of course.

@MDP1702 7 месяцев назад

Usually they are harder because there are steeper sections than is would seem and semi-flat/descent sections.

@sewthuis9659 7 месяцев назад

who is that jumbo team never heard of it doesnt exist

@peterduvall6920 7 месяцев назад

Ethan Hayter gets Green

@matlindell5022 7 месяцев назад

Let’s just hope this time it won’t be a huge cirkuss 🤡🎪🤣

@abp1400 7 месяцев назад

no love for the east of Spain this year

@joostamsterdam 7 месяцев назад

Sorry I have to say this. But this is the worst preview LRCP has done. Very few insights and lots of off topic “humour”. Especially Benji is losing his touch. Hope the next shows will be better again. This was by far the most knowledgeable podcast on cycling. Seems to move more and more to the level of other podcasts. Mindless banter.

@stefanvanstrien6175 7 месяцев назад

The humour makes it nicer to listen to. Go on like this guys. I do enjoy it a lot!

@smeetsnoud1 7 месяцев назад

It still is the most knowledgeable cycling podcast. But it's very hard to analyse/predict this far out. Still I agree this pod us a bit light on possible GC scenarios/situations. Stage 2 imo is more interesting than they make it out to be. Not every team can protect a red jersey on that parcours..m

@Queen-be6md 6 месяцев назад

Having so few information about the riders that will be at the start what else can you do. I think it's fine