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VW GOLF GTI MK7 - STOCK VS STAGE 3! 

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Here we have our stage 3 package for the Golf GTI Mk7.
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@Dukes3677
@Dukes3677 11 месяцев назад
You know theyre a good shop when they torque the oil filter with a totque wrench lol
@adamm.1367
@adamm.1367 Год назад
I like this build. People wondering about the stock exhaust but the real restriction on these cars is the DP with 2 cats. Stock exhaust is fine even at these power levels. Skip the boy racer noise and keep it sleeper.
@toxicthug8267
@toxicthug8267 3 месяца назад
Definetly right!
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
@Microphunktv-jb3kj Месяц назад
my feed is full of gtis... algo trying to brainwash me into buying the car lol :DD i see common pattern to be.. tuning the car to up to 300-350hp and i never see anyone restoring the block itself or cylinders , rods , bearings my question is how much abuse and beating do stock can handle?
@adamm.1367
@adamm.1367 Месяц назад
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj Gen 3+ ea888 motors can reliably make 400-450 on stock internals, no issue. But fueling, the stock turbo, clutch & trans become weak links once you get past a basic stage 2 setup. 300-350 is common because it's cheap & easy to attain with basic bolt on's an a tune and you can still maintain decent fwd drivability (400+hp in a fwd = spinning ain't winning)
@BBLMAC
@BBLMAC Год назад
177 torque stock? Must have had some serious issues
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ Год назад
Was more like 250 if u look at the graph.
@BBLMAC
@BBLMAC Год назад
@@OrjonZvery true, didn’t pay that much attention. Somewhat misleading to not give peak stock figures and compare those to peak modified figures though
@radhammond2708
@radhammond2708 Год назад
@@BBLMAC It looks like they gave the power output at the same rev level though so its still somewhat accurate
@sszhao11
@sszhao11 Год назад
177 tq at 6500rpm. The turbo flow drops off a lot at peak rpm for is20. The. They showed peak torque at 3000rpm for the is38. A. It inconsistent. For racing torque at 4000-6500rpm matters more than 3000 as you only see 3000rpm on first gear
@chrismc1977
@chrismc1977 10 месяцев назад
No idea why but the quoted 177lbs,ft was the figure it was producing at max power & not the peak torque figure as standard. The standard output for an early mk7 is ~215hp/250lbs.ft A pity the vid didn’t quote like for like!
@mohamedshatat6593
@mohamedshatat6593 Год назад
What is the maximum hp and torque for a stock GTI engine ?
@jasoncavanagh1048
@jasoncavanagh1048 Год назад
Most tuners say to keep it below 400whp/440wtq for a daily driver on pump gas. With E85 you can push closer to 450hp/475tq. There are people pushing higher numbers on the stock engine but thats a rough guideline
@mohamedshatat6593
@mohamedshatat6593 Год назад
@@jasoncavanagh1048 thank you 🙏
@ronburgundy4375
@ronburgundy4375 Год назад
​@Jason Cavanagh about 450hp is the safe limit
@jasoncavanagh1048
@jasoncavanagh1048 Год назад
@@ronburgundy4375 I said for a daily, and it all depends on how much boost you're making too
@billyyank5807
@billyyank5807 Год назад
It's not so much the engine but your drive train.
@StalloneSRB
@StalloneSRB Год назад
What about engine mounts ,fwd etc.. do they last long?
@ajmoran8988
@ajmoran8988 Год назад
How much does the stage 3 package cost with out the brakes upgrade??
@ace147BSB
@ace147BSB Год назад
You don’t wanna stop???😂
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 9 месяцев назад
@@ace147BSB Silly goose. You can stop without brakes, it's just going to take longer.
@justgotohm4775
@justgotohm4775 Год назад
I loved my 15 Sport Pack manual, IS38 stage 3, pulled hard and was an excellent daily.
@gmann569
@gmann569 Год назад
What happened to it ?
@justgotohm4775
@justgotohm4775 Год назад
@@gmann569 Sold it for a change in lifestyle from rural to urban.
@darrenenoch2680
@darrenenoch2680 Год назад
Brilliant video nice power output
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
Thanks for the support. 😎
@landroverSV
@landroverSV 6 месяцев назад
Nothing beats the awesome music 🎶 from the VR6 R32 engine
@alekbarber5908
@alekbarber5908 Год назад
My car now is stgae 2 98 fuel mk7.r i have ie intercooler and xforce downpipe with ie air intake and ngk race plug what i needs to upgrade to stage 3
@Nutski321
@Nutski321 Год назад
Stock exhaust and stock clutch’s 😂
@danielbrown2310
@danielbrown2310 Месяц назад
Can you Map MPI injectors? I've got a 980cc mpi kit with a Bartek 590lph intake pump, Venom 550 turbo. But I'm looking for mapping.
@Sverigebilden
@Sverigebilden 5 месяцев назад
Hi, nice video. What TTE turbo do you recommend if going from is38 (Clubsport), aim around 420-450HP? What other parts must be replaced as well? It´s 6 speed manual.
@R88FYN
@R88FYN 2 месяца назад
go garret power max, you’ll get more power
@jameshamilton5647
@jameshamilton5647 Месяц назад
Whats the price on this set up supplied and fitted?
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Месяц назад
Information can be found on our website via this link www.motorsportandperformance.com/brands/volkswagen/golf-gti/tuning/ If you need further info, don't hesitate to get in touch.
@Lord.Crawford
@Lord.Crawford Год назад
Good to see Ben Boshing a Video 😎
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
We totally agree! 😎
@717StreetMedia
@717StreetMedia Год назад
What all for fueling? I am running a 60mm on a mk6 gli and cannot figure a clear cut option ? I am maxed on fuel rn is it just upgraded hpfp?
@jeronimjurakovic2919
@jeronimjurakovic2919 11 месяцев назад
What is a TOTAL PRICE from stock to stage 3? Anyone plese😁 Thanks👍
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance 11 месяцев назад
Please send us an email to info@motorsportandperformance.com
@angelo5997
@angelo5997 22 дня назад
I can’t imagine this surviving only because the clutch is trash. Everything else can handle it
@davidwickhamrc3899
@davidwickhamrc3899 11 месяцев назад
That's cool project. I have a gti mk6 with 500 hp .bulit and bule printed engine. With 4340 rods and JE pistons flow the head from AFR and air /water cooler and custom intake manifold and a 101 ball bearing turbo.she is fast beast
@davidwickhamrc3899
@davidwickhamrc3899 11 месяцев назад
Yeah my buddy has a. Z06 corvette and he can't stay up with me lol..vw gti forever .
@SimpleMachineRobotics
@SimpleMachineRobotics 11 месяцев назад
god, how much did that run you lol
@davidwickhamrc3899
@davidwickhamrc3899 11 месяцев назад
I think I got 3k in it..
@SimpleMachineRobotics
@SimpleMachineRobotics 11 месяцев назад
@@davidwickhamrc3899 that's it??
@davidwickhamrc3899
@davidwickhamrc3899 11 месяцев назад
+ 1200 for turbo .for got
@BlackFlag94
@BlackFlag94 4 месяца назад
Do you have a comparison torque and power graph of both hybrid IS20 and IS38? I wonder if targeting the same ~450bhp would be nicer to drive with a lower boost pressure on the IS38 hybrid? Let's face it, these cars struggle for traction off the line so low torque isn't gonna be helping you there
@Sus_blues
@Sus_blues Год назад
Why is torque so low? Safety precautions?
@PeterTX
@PeterTX Год назад
Looks like it was actually make 394lb ft back at 4500 RPM, but that dropped off to 351 at 6350rpm. So it would seem they focused on top end performance vs midrange.
@joshua4859
@joshua4859 Год назад
What does a stock to stage 3 jump in power do to the life expectancy of these EA888 engines?
@brandons9138
@brandons9138 Год назад
It all depends on how you drive it. If you're foot on the floor every chance you get you'll undoubtedly have a shorter service life. If you're only occasionally stomping your foot to the floor you'll enjoy a longer life.
@ronburgundy4375
@ronburgundy4375 Год назад
​@Brandon S nah the motors are essentially the same as a golf r... going to this level is only stage 2 golf r but its more potent due to it being lighter
@neil7526
@neil7526 4 месяца назад
This is great. And what would something like this cost as in a total package please ?
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance 4 месяца назад
Please send us an email to... info@motorsportandperformance.com
@bobans
@bobans 4 месяца назад
I just went from gtd 184hp to R level 2.0tsi 300hp stage 1 and still get scared of how fast the car is. Maybe in a year I will tune the car to 400HP
@brogu6071
@brogu6071 7 месяцев назад
literally the most annoying accent in the world
@jordanstain1828
@jordanstain1828 Год назад
Please go back and clean the suspension assembly 🙏🏼 my OCD bro🫠
@joebuczkowski8605
@joebuczkowski8605 Год назад
Can i get a job there as well? i want to learn 🧠 how to do this line of work💪 lads.💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨
@anony-mousex
@anony-mousex 5 месяцев назад
Why would you do open airbox? Hella engine heat soak
@jachpriboy8989
@jachpriboy8989 Год назад
bro pls.. pre-lube the turbocharger prior to first start up !! 😖 add clean engine oil to the oil inlet of the turbo while turning the shaft by hand until oil comes out of the drain...
@bendunn2727
@bendunn2727 Год назад
it takes days to put a build like this together, you have watched a 15 minute snippet of it … what are you on about 🤣
@jachpriboy8989
@jachpriboy8989 Год назад
@@bendunn2727 Oh really?? 🤣
@HealthyMotherfcker
@HealthyMotherfcker Год назад
@@jachpriboy8989 yeah dumbass. These guys know WAY more than you’ll ever know. Just shut your idiot mouth.
@alanclark9000
@alanclark9000 Год назад
​@Ben Dunn lol takes days to do this. Nah
@mkviis
@mkviis Год назад
My car looks fully stock on the outside but it is pushing 345hp. Went for a sleeper build so i could lure in v8s and have a laugh
@timeformetoact6
@timeformetoact6 Год назад
What about a DSG Tune? I sure hope it’s not still stock.
@umer1712
@umer1712 Год назад
He did say ECU and TCU tune in the video.
@timeformetoact6
@timeformetoact6 Год назад
Ah, good, I’m so relieved!
@FlightSO02
@FlightSO02 7 месяцев назад
Awesome, love the choice of speakers. Looking forward to the next episode. P.s. would love to see you guys do a sound install for a Vw kombi........just saying it should happen in the near future
@khalifahvidal3959
@khalifahvidal3959 10 месяцев назад
IS20 hybrid or is38 ? I want to go stage 3 I have an audi TT mk3
@a.c.gaming7452
@a.c.gaming7452 Месяц назад
How is that pittin power down ?
@songz2412
@songz2412 6 месяцев назад
how much is a stage 3 upgrade on a GTI mk7 / 7.5?
@xRest684
@xRest684 8 месяцев назад
thanks for uploading. do you know what causes the exhaust to pop when shifting. I'm not a fan of farts and need help knowing what to do?
@TIM612826
@TIM612826 Год назад
Nice and clear. The is38 turbo would be harder to fit or just cost more?
@ronburgundy4375
@ronburgundy4375 Год назад
Most is38 hybrids are about 1500usd that's not bad for 200hp over stock
@arronlowley5659
@arronlowley5659 Год назад
the tte turbos cost a fortune, the customer could have 100% had a hybrid is38 for cheaper than this hybrid is20.
@youcangetsum6871
@youcangetsum6871 Год назад
@@arronlowley5659is20 just spools faster so that’s why some people choose it.
@maxly501
@maxly501 Год назад
​@@arronlowley5659Maybe the customer still wanted to keep that sort of stock spool but with the advantage of being hybrid which means way more power on the higher revs without the turbo choking up there
@michaelsouders4026
@michaelsouders4026 Год назад
Why is that turbo €2500?! I can get an upgraded IS38+ for less than half the price here in the states…
@RandomPerson32133
@RandomPerson32133 Год назад
When you upgrade the brakes, can there be problems that occur with adaptive cruise control? or does the computer figure it out itself?
@cruzever09
@cruzever09 Год назад
No there should be any problem the car dosent know you changed the brakes
@maxly501
@maxly501 Год назад
Nah , nothing like that happens
@mariaalexandrazamfir2389
@mariaalexandrazamfir2389 4 месяца назад
How much were all the new parts?
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance 4 месяца назад
Please send us an email to... Info@motorsportandperformance.com A member from the office will answer this question for you.
@ronnieronnie8549
@ronnieronnie8549 Год назад
So question does it even matter if the intercooler upgrade in stock place or the small one that’s lower and shows from the grill.
@onelowvdub
@onelowvdub Год назад
424hp that's the limit of the back muffler get that off there
@arminatashak7746
@arminatashak7746 2 месяца назад
Great video thank you for explanation
@roadtotheroofofafrica
@roadtotheroofofafrica Год назад
How is the reliability ons a stage 3 vw like this?
@mentoraliji5081
@mentoraliji5081 Год назад
if you don't drive it like a black horse all the time. it will be good
@222kamil
@222kamil 5 месяцев назад
Non vaq diff and 500hp 😂😂😂😂😂
@carsontuttle8984
@carsontuttle8984 6 месяцев назад
whats the torque steer like at that power?
@JRC3279
@JRC3279 11 месяцев назад
Do I have to make adjustments to the ECU map?
@lardook
@lardook Год назад
I didn't see a series 3 revision or aftermarket turbo inlet pipe? Unless the ramair induction kit comes with the inlet pipe in the kit? 🤙 The inlet pipe makes a huge difference to these cars due to the factory one being very bulky/restrictive internally
@wedrivebynight
@wedrivebynight 10 месяцев назад
It doesn’t make a difference at all dude, mine dynod the same with and without it
@Di-Mit
@Di-Mit 7 месяцев назад
Don't install LPFP ?
@Acsydud-nl8sy
@Acsydud-nl8sy Год назад
Hey how did y’all put the front mount with the adaptive cruise control sensor right there ???
@Acsydud-nl8sy
@Acsydud-nl8sy Год назад
Does it throw a code when u remove the sensor
@Ak-so6dm
@Ak-so6dm 10 месяцев назад
Stage 3 build price?
@CarlosCruz-bp8qo
@CarlosCruz-bp8qo Год назад
Damn I would love to build my mk6 stage 3 with this guy he knows his shit
@mustangmach1london
@mustangmach1london Год назад
Another epic build
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
Thank you! 😎
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
@Microphunktv-jb3kj Месяц назад
oww.. what is this dyno device called 6:45
@bigeater1310
@bigeater1310 2 месяца назад
Ain't 450bhp 🙄
@Irqyy
@Irqyy 8 месяцев назад
What spark plugs did u use?
@truckrodhoodlum
@truckrodhoodlum Год назад
Would you sell the bin file map stage 3
@bogy999
@bogy999 10 месяцев назад
Does the stock low pressure fuel pump cope?
@logic565
@logic565 8 месяцев назад
That laugh at 8:11 is all too familiar..😂
@isaacm1289
@isaacm1289 Год назад
No upgraded engine cooling required??
@Zattoo20
@Zattoo20 10 месяцев назад
100-200 times ! ???
@chrisbaldwin7048
@chrisbaldwin7048 Год назад
What mileage was this on when you installed all this?
@MaikDreijer
@MaikDreijer Год назад
Doesn't really matter on these engine's if they've been taken care off. These 2.0's have a few flaws but once you go S3 you'll have everything sucky about them done and renewed anyway. My MK7 GTI had a stage 3 conversion done at 175000 KMs, and it's now at 215000 without any leaks/issues. Should really let this be done by people who work on VW's all the time. I'm a certified VW mechanic myself so I did all the part conversions myself, had it dyno'd and tuned and it's been mad ever since. Big tip, don't go for a mad crackle map, it'll drive you insane after 500km (speaking from experience lol)
@MaikDreijer
@MaikDreijer Год назад
Oh and just buy parts that are tested/fitted like RAM air intakes, the turbo elbow etc. Don't fabricate too much yourself as parts are easily available and very good quality.
@chrisbaldwin7048
@chrisbaldwin7048 Год назад
@@MaikDreijer wow! Makes me want one! Had an edition 30 years and knew these were good engines
@elijahwest99
@elijahwest99 Год назад
@@MaikDreijerwhat state are you in you do work on mk6 Gli in Ga
@MrPeteRR299
@MrPeteRR299 Год назад
No charge pipes ?
@alicrissman5619
@alicrissman5619 9 месяцев назад
What turbo is that?
@dudleyho4615
@dudleyho4615 Год назад
Hi what is the life span of a stage 3 upgrade on the golf 7
@romandesousa5936
@romandesousa5936 Год назад
Mines been is38 fbo on 93 with a super aggressive ecu and dsg tune for about a year and I’ve had no problems
@CustomKB.
@CustomKB. Год назад
is it legal?
@MaikDreijer
@MaikDreijer Год назад
I still think it's bonkers VW didn't give the MK7 GTI's slotted brakes or even the R style brakes. The MK8 GTI front brakes are a MASSIVE improvement imo.
@KasamS
@KasamS Год назад
U get r style on the performance pack but its still 1 piston
@TheFlyingPLiner
@TheFlyingPLiner Год назад
Macan brake upgrade is easy to do and relatively affordable. I've had mine for 3 years and it's been perfect.
@johngreen8693
@johngreen8693 9 месяцев назад
Are these the "Performance Pack" brakes? If not, why not fit them?
@bravosava
@bravosava 7 месяцев назад
They not, the performance pack brakes has GTI written on them in the front.
@johngreen8693
@johngreen8693 7 месяцев назад
@@bravosava I was just surprised that with the scale of the engine upgrades they didn't fit the PP brakes - VW original etc - instead of just changing disks and pads.
@2810Mad
@2810Mad Год назад
214hp stock? They're supposed to have 245hp, isn't that a bit low?
@maxly501
@maxly501 Год назад
Actually no, there a many versions : -220hp -230hp -245hp This one looks to be the first one's, so a 220hp one
@wedrivebynight
@wedrivebynight 10 месяцев назад
@@maxly501That’s wrong too there’s only two and the power levels are 210 and 220
@maxly501
@maxly501 10 месяцев назад
@@wedrivebynight Nop, there's no 210hp mk7 GTI, you must be talking about the mk6.
@hondacrxmk25
@hondacrxmk25 Год назад
Yeah yeah. Dream on with stock con rods 😂
@UnknownP41
@UnknownP41 7 месяцев назад
???? These engines do 500bhp quite happily 🤣
@ProdigyX19
@ProdigyX19 Год назад
How much?
@saketkath964
@saketkath964 Год назад
what was the cost for this ? parts and labour included ? Also after the stage 3 what is the 0 -100kmph ? Thanks
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
Please send us an email to: info@motorsportandperformance.com Our office team will pick this up after the bank holiday weekend 😎
@pi11sburydoeboy
@pi11sburydoeboy Год назад
​@@MotorsportPerformance Easter isn't a bank holiday!
@TIM612826
@TIM612826 Год назад
Yes a ball park figure would be nice...
@iTecKnO
@iTecKnO Год назад
0-100 is useless with 2 front wheels drive... you have to consider the 100-200..and this thing now is moving
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 Год назад
​@@TIM612826£4k-£5k+ if it's a manual it's another £2k for a clutch Much easier & cheaper to go stage 2 on a golf r Stage 3 front wheel drive is close to undriveable My golf r is stage 2 & wheelspins in 3rd🤦
@spinnetti
@spinnetti Год назад
That's more HP than FWD handles.... will be spending a fortune on front tires!
@motopez9840
@motopez9840 Год назад
Saw some guy saying he’s gti chewed through brand new set of good quality tires a month haha
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 9 месяцев назад
You might go to about 245 rubber instead of 225 and you'll get longer life because of less slip on the gas.
@ronburgundy4375
@ronburgundy4375 Год назад
Basically get a gti and dump like 6k into it it'll be fun and reliable. 400hp on one of these is Basically hellcat fast
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 Год назад
Even better idea get a golf r & put £1500 into it for stage 2 much more driveable car especially on damp uk roads
@cyril2011
@cyril2011 Год назад
My mk8 golf r with a stage 1 is almost 400 crank with just an intercooler and intake. Awd for the snow. Best daily you could ask for.
@GalentNZ
@GalentNZ Год назад
Awesome video guys 👏
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
Thank you 😎
@sonofspaceghost_9290
@sonofspaceghost_9290 Год назад
Was exited for the video, see’s DSG…..leaves chat😕
@v8ent
@v8ent Год назад
Very nice Work ❤
@v8ent
@v8ent Год назад
Do I have to have an intercooler to run stage 2?
@teamsjeijks
@teamsjeijks Год назад
Yess
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 9 месяцев назад
OEM can get heat soak issues if you're on it long enough, often enough. Any power increase is going to tax the whole system with extra heat.
@mr.sauvage330
@mr.sauvage330 Год назад
Would there be any additional parts required for a manual version of that car? (For a similar power figure)
@benq1267
@benq1267 Год назад
stronger clutch
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
We would recommend upgrading the clutch for a manual box. Something on the lines of a Sachs Performance Clutch Kit. 😎
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Год назад
Yes. Clutch kit, as well as clutch components (short shift kit, weighted shift knob, etc.). Sachs is best kit for DMF. SMF, I recommend XClutch Stage 2, ACT Stage 3, or ECS Stage 4.
@manuelparra6934
@manuelparra6934 Год назад
Definitely not a FMIC hence why the Intercooler is still in between AC and Rad…
@brandons9138
@brandons9138 Год назад
It's absolutely a FMIC. It mounts in front of the engine. Unlike some older GTIs that are mounted on the side. Or a Subaru that mounts on the top of the engine (TMIC). The F (front) in FMIC is its location relative to the engine.
@KasamS
@KasamS Год назад
Lool a factory mount intercooler is the most efficient go do your research first
@maxly501
@maxly501 Год назад
It is actually like that on most VW's, it's between the radiator and the AC condenser , actually quite a good setting from factory
@wedrivebynight
@wedrivebynight 10 месяцев назад
Technically still front mounted dipshit
@mr.adventure559
@mr.adventure559 Год назад
I would be happy with that much power.
@radhammond2708
@radhammond2708 Год назад
Theres never enough power
@franciscogutierrez1197
@franciscogutierrez1197 Год назад
whats the link for the turbo?
@ricardopontes9373
@ricardopontes9373 Год назад
TTE485
@CHeLL0Bro
@CHeLL0Bro Год назад
What a lovely lesson thanks,good job.
@the_a3_8v94
@the_a3_8v94 Год назад
So customer wanted 450 and u gave him 420 set up 😅😂
@MotorsportPerformance
@MotorsportPerformance Год назад
The customer wanted to aim between 400-450bhp.
@Lord.Crawford
@Lord.Crawford Год назад
if its 420 there is a reason for that - MAPS 420 will be absolutely tuned to perfection and better than some other claim of 450 that wont be anything near as good as their 420 - not all numbers mean more power - quality over quantity lad
@mustangmach1london
@mustangmach1london Год назад
@@Lord.Crawford 100% agree. It's about how the car feels and drives. Well said.
@bendunn5422
@bendunn5422 Год назад
Car could do with a LPFP, it's done circa 75k miles and we hadn't planned or budgeted for it. No doubt it will come back in the future :)
@the_a3_8v94
@the_a3_8v94 Год назад
@@Lord.Crawford it’s all down to tune quality . But put 2 same cars with same tuner on one with 420 other with 450 hp. What’s going to be quicker ? .
@antonionovella2610
@antonionovella2610 Год назад
E ci vuole le pinze a 6 pompanti per i freni
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