Interesting video, it would be great to do a run with luggage and passengers, although I have noticed with my Fiat 500e that with two of us and luggage for a weeks holiday it made no difference to range. My thoughts are that what you loose up hill you gain going down. Bjorn Nyland did a test with bottles of windscreen washer fluid and found very little difference in a Kia Soul.
Test was made by a french channel using a Hyundai Ioniq 28 - The most efficient car ever built - and drove two of them across town and highway. The first one unloaded with 1 driver, the second with 260 kgs of passengers and luggage (Car is 1595 kgs). It made no difference in any of the sections with an average of 12-13 kwh / 100 kms.
No difference, physics. On highway at these speeds weight has a marginal role. Wind and air resistance, wet roads and tires. And of course the effeciency of the motor. Weight - about 5% if at that
i would call that useful range at a decent compromise when it comes to speed. the consumption isn't small but that is understandable since its a van(they don't exactly get stellar consumption even with a diesel model).
Nice test. For the price of the Buzz I need a much larger range at 70mph. I like the Buzz, I nearly ordered it until I found out everything is an optional extra such as it only comes with a 10inch screen and you have to pay extra for the 12 inch screen. If the Buzz was £50k with massage seats, 2 tone paint, 12 inch screen then I would have got one regardless of the poor range... But buying a vehicle for more than £50k that doesn't have access to the supercharger network is rather stupid in the UK.
@@SNORKYMEDIA The £57k base model is also really lacking in equipment. No ACC and automated wipers on a c. £60k car is a disgrace. When I specced one to a semi acceptable level it came out at over £62k 🙃
Thank you for this interesting test with the good range result under those conditions. My Cargo can do even a bit better because it’s lighter and I’m driving with allweather tires.
@@BatteryLife Yes, you are right. But just the Buzz I would like to see with a few 100 kilo weight as a test. For some reason, no one does that on youtube. (at least I haven't seen anything about it so far).
@@kreidefelsen It will hardly make a difference when going at more or less constant speed and on flat ground. Bjørn Nyland did a test with 400 kg in a Kia Soul and could not even measure any significant change in consumption. Of course, the story changes when you do a lot of stop-and-go driving in a city, let alone when you go up a significant elevation.
Great video as always. 270Wh/km at only 110kmh, jeez. Yeah yeah I know, a van... but still 300km at that rather low range that is really not great. At 110kmh I want to be able to drive at least 400 if not 500km, because I want to do at least 4-5h on the first leg. In my Model 3 LR I can do 110kmh at 0 Degrees with app. 160 Wh/km flat road. So for a new battery that is 470km, in summer I need 130Wh/km and that means 575km. 🤷♂️ But for others it might be an interesting car. For me it is too expensive for what it is, though.
@@kreidefelsen yeah but that makes little difference ... passengers and normal luggage does not matter much for consumption. it is already bad as it is :)
@@tesla-spectre I highly doubt that! Weight does A LOT of difference to range on every EV. Edit: yes, it is already bad because this thing was empty :)
@@kreidefelsen You are wrong because with those heavy EVs the additional weight is just a minor percentage that contributes to rolling resistance, but at autobahn speeds the air resistance is predominant.
This is just physics, you can’t expect a van to have car like consumption. Your low slung M3 will obviously consume less, in the same way my diesel car uses half as much diesel compared to my T5 van.
@@BatteryLife that's a very good point. I've always put my cupra born into range mode and d and never considered it not having an effect. Does it make much difference when coasting downhill?
110km is a more realistic speed. Fast enough to get you where you need in a timely manner, fast enough to not peeve other motorists while you're in slow lane.
Vans often have large consumption when they are diesel or petrol so an EV Van...couldn't expect it to match a car. It should cost a lot less to operate than the average van.
You can get a decent Diesel Van for 20k whereas a decently specd Buzz costs 70k. If you're decision is solely based in cost you get the diesel /petrol van
This was a very insightful video and these are the speeds I travel at so I found it very useful. I really want an electric car for many different reasons, however the main reason has always been for cheaper fuel. I'm from the UK and my energy company charge me £0.34 per kwh (for me it also isn't any cheaper at night), so this would cost me £26.18 to travel 180 miles. Whereas my 2004 diesel VW touran would get me over 200 miles for the same cost. I think a lot of current electric cars are great for driving around cities where they are much more efficient at lower speeds but as much as I really want an electric car (especially the new ID 2!) I really want to see companies advance there batteries like Tesla, or even like Dyson tried to with solid state packs
170 miles is just not enough for many especially in the american market, VW have to offer it with a bigger pack especially when they launch the longer wheel base version, there's just a few things that I really do not like about this, and i am thinking more along the lines of a mobility assist, the reduced wheel base makes it really awkward for lifts to be installed, it lacks high clearance as well as width from the doorway, boot space is quite frankly ill designed more aka to the commercial version, the step boot option is a terrible design able body individual will just be inconvenienced but from a wheel chair extremely challenging to load goods its just to high and makes you rely on others to load your chair. it doesn't fold up or drop down if not needed,
