Their claims of a revolutionary car seem justified. I could easily see this as the car that marks the moment that EVs go from early adopters to mainstream.
Greatings from Germany. I am one of the 30.000 guys. It is worth to wait! Trust me. VW is still developing some details I think. The model what I'v sawn on the Frankfurt motor Show was not the final Version. Nice report. All the best to you!
FYI: Audi also uses MEB. The 2019 e-tron SUV. It is between the Q5 and Q8 in size. We absolutely Love ours. Talk about fast just over 5 second 0-60. We get about 230 miles per charge.
Great vid as always, thank you. I think VW are committed to a future in EVs because they can see which way the industry is going like we all can, but they have to balance the transition from ICE to EV to keep themselves profitable during the process. A combination of improved charging infrastructure and main stream car manufacturers building a wide range of affordable EVs will really get the EV revolution moving. After 100 years of ICE cars, full conversion to EVs is going to take time, but it’s unstoppable now.
Because the conversion is _'unstoppable'_ it should happen much, much more quickly. VW is aware of this. That is the reason for their delay in release. If you own as ny petroleum stocks, be sure to dump them the week before VW ID.3 is released.
It looks really nice in white with black trim and detailing. Driving A3 etron loving it. Charge it everyday or twice a day like my mobile phone. If the range on hybrid A3 was anywhere near 50 miles I wouldn't even bother to go fully electric as I am driving on electric almost 80 to 90% of time. Last I filled up with petrol was nearly 2 to 3 months ago. Once you go electric no going back, it's just so serene and calming. I don't think I got close to any kind of road rage since I got the etron a3. Loving it lots 😎
Charging at 11kW at home is only possible if your house has 3-phase electrics (Most German & Scandinavian homes do). UK home charging will likely be more like the usual 7.4kW.
@@joetheprogrammer0 Minimum of £1500 plus vat and then upwards. Depends on access to your property, local permits, road works, parking. It is not a small job. Average price is around £3,000 plus vat. I doubt it would be worth the cost to get that 50% increase unless there are other savings.
if you have a dryer or an air conditioning, you probably have a circuit to charge the car at 11kW too. Dryers and air conditionings need 220-230 V from the grid.
@@niki123489 In Europe, single phase is already 230 V, so tumble dryers here generally just run off single phase. That's fine for the 7 kW chargers, but for 11 or 22 kW charging, you need a 3-phase supply because each pin in the connector in the connector can only handle 32 A (~7 kW). Not sure how higher charging rates are handled in the US since 3-phase supplies aren't normal there as far as I'm aware (220 V is through split phase) and their EV connectors (type 1) don't support 3-phase
@@ouethojlkjn Yeah digging up the road and your front garden isn't cheap. If you just have an EV, then it probably isn't worth it, but if you have 2, or a workshop, it might start to make more sense
The party has just begun. This will probably be the base of the affordable electric market. From now on makers will start concentrating their efforts on affordability instead of the luxury market.
@@josi4749 Range too short and lots of ???? over chinese brand quality. The electric mini coop has similar range and price but is benefit of a premium known brand. I see that a new more affordabl(ish) price benchmark ....though obviously not a family car.
What a great time to be alive! Real potential here, and like to see the changing markets as a result of product offerings. Also glad my last ICE car that I’ll ever own is a 2015, so by the time it’s 10, electric cars will be mainstream
Like you, I was sceptical after several years of "Its coming! It's coming!", but sometimes the friends who show up late to the party we just busy getting primed - and they are often the most fun you have all night. I think VW will succeed with this car - and the platform. I hope there is an all wheel drive wagon version (like the Golf All Track) headed for Canada. It would be a great replacement for our Q5, and a nice compliment to our Niro EV.
I'm pretty sure Volkswagen AG plans to keep their all wheel drive EV platforms exclusive to AUDI and PORSCHE for the foreseeable future. And, Canada won't see any iteration of the ID.3 for 12-to-18 months after California. So, basically, never. This is a Euro car only for now.
Just for clarity. IONITY is a joint venture with BMW, Mercedes, Ford and VW... ID3 "Prototype" came after the design for ID3 was signed off to prepare the public. ID3 is much taller than the Golf. The ID.3 is 4261mm long, 1809mm wide and 1552mm high, which means it’s 3mm longer, 10mm wider and 60mm taller than a Golf.
Wermagst haha very good - I had to think about that for a while!! Yep even though I love the “stealth” of my near-silent Leaf at low speed, it’s not good for bikes and pedestrians - I’m certain the Id3 and all new EVs have to have a noise generator at low speed by law now.
@@brucekennedy5274 I wasn't joking, it's for this safety test: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q4zfwUL3joI.html The Model 3 got a mediocre pedestrian safety rating from the Euro NCAP, because it does not have an active hood (or that plastic thingy): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cMiZa3HgRVE.html
Wermagst oh wow .. okay. I’m that case, I can look look upon it more kindly, knowing it’s there for a very positive safety reason. Thanks for the info - very cool of you 😀
The more EVs the better! And there's no way to lie about emissions. How will pricing/availability be affected by Brexit? Meanwhile, I'm very happy with my Model 3.
It pretty much ticks all the boxes. Stockpiling is a good idea for a couple of reasons. It allows VW to sort out any production glitches, and allows for any software updates before release. Yes you have to wait for the release date, BUT it will allow you to get a firm elivery date if you order now, and if you wait until it's released before ordering, the wait won't be as long as it is now for other, supposedly available, makes. It allows VW time to get a charging network in place. OK, that's three reasons not a couple, but you get my drift. Price guessrimates seem reasonable compared to cars offering similar ranges, and the 48KWh version may leave the MG struggling. A new Beetle? Could well be! My 40KWh Leaf lease is up early '21, the coffee grounds in the bottom of the cup indicate a 58 KWh 'New Beetle' in my future.
We have a 1st Gen Leaf (a great car) and an ICE car for towing and long distance, and plan to swop both for a 200 mile-range EV in a couple of years. VW seem to be really going for the EV market with the ID.3, and with their technological and development might, I'll bet this will be a well thought out car. I've heard that VW have bought large stocks of battery materials to avoid future logjams. If the ID.3 is readily available from around £25-30k in 18-24 months then I might start forgiving VW for diesel gate. The icing on the cake would be if it can tow (hope), otherwise we'll have to switch back to tents.
I have a reservation and saw it first hand at Frankfurt show debut. Technical and build quality all looks very good and as I expected. Unfortunately all the insider rumours and extrapolation from now revealed German prices points to even the no options VW Id3 launch edition will come close to £40k (i.e very similar or even more than the disappointingly expensive premium Tesla model 3). The full options will be near £50k - and this is only the mid range battery remember! If true this is just unacceptable to me for a very definitely non premium brand and I will cancel my reservation. I definitely thought that VW were playing it straight when they said price will be around a well packaged Golf diesel. I don't know of any Golf that comes near £50k list price. Looks like I've been played as a fool.
Rear camera and energy brake assist should be standard now surely on the base model too. This is what I like about Tesla. They don’t scrimp on safety features even with their base models. Yes they are more expensive cars but surely in this day and age we should expect the best safety features as standard to protect your family. I agree with extras for higher spec models being things like the glass roof and sound system etc.
We just bought the the Model 3 Standard Plus at £37,260 plus £950 for a pre-fitted Westfalia type detachable tow bar. I think the price fluctuates along with the value of the pound to the dollar, but the lower, (yet very high specked) Model 3, is becoming more affordable as apposed to the 'luxury' reputation Tesla have. Seems on par with the VW price wise. My dad used to run us round in a succession of second hand VW Beetles........amazingly reliable. So I can't wait to see the iD's.
i hate the black plastic thing across the bonnet/hood by the windscreen; is it needed or just to make the window look longer? I would prefer a choice of normal colour on the boot/trunk door too rather than black.
It looks lovely almost like a MK7 from the rear. I believe it's a good idea to stock pile so you don't have a mass delivery meltdown like Tesla. Will they sell that many I hope they do because it is a beautiful car in a very good price range.
It's what they are doing for the 'First' editions, some people will be happy to pay to get some 'limited edition' car, others like Glenn and I, will wait until they are in the showrooms and actually available and we can just get one.
Stockpiles are fine if they only have a few versions. As soon as you specify any optional extras, you are back to waiting a few months in a production queue.
@@FFVoyager Those of us that a deposit down didn't do it to get a 'limited edition', because that wasn't an option at that time, we put did it because we wanted an EV with a decent range of over 200 miles. VW have only recently announced that the first batch of ID.3's will be the 'First' edition, it's the obvious thing to do because they won't be geared up for bespoke orders from the launch date. I suspect that you'll have a very long wait to able to go into a dealer showroom and collect the same day you place your order, because that can't even be done now with an ICE vehicle in the UK.
I still don't understand why EVs are so expensive, the engineering that goes into an internal combustion engine is way more complex than an electric motor. Add to that an EV doesn't have a gearbox starter motor and alternator... I just think, as usual, the car industry are taking the piss.
I would love at ID3 - but my VW dealer can't tell me when I could have one (sometime in 2021 seems realistic). It's yet another EV with a vague delivery promise. I currently drive a VW Golf GTE hybrid, on a lease ending in spring 2020, so I can't wait for VW to catch up.
Other reviews noticed that the interior is more plasticky than the Golf's and the price creeps up rapidly when selecting options that you don't want to be without, such as a heat pump instead of a resistive heater. It won't be a game changer at all, but it follows the competition closely. Marketing of VW is still quite good, but don't expect it is heaven.
Great knowledgeable video. I like the look of the car. I currently own a 2011 Subaru Forester XT and would like to replace it with a Similar Style EV with all wheel drive off road capability. The current prices for EVs are still too high where I live in Australia (no govt subsidies) and I earn about 50 percent above the average wage. So I will be holding on to my Forester until the prices of EVs are on parity or close enough to ICE cars!
The ID3 looks so much like the Golf, will be interesting if it takes over for the Golf eventually. I don't think VW are late to the party, yes it took Diesel-Gate to change them which is unfortunate but they seem to be on the EV Bandwagon and eventually they will have more ID vehicles available. It is nice they are starting with a large SUV that costs more than most can afford. Just means once they do appear on the roads spring next year(2020) means less ICE on the roads.
Delivery summer 2020!?! Isn't battery supply the problem - no Gigafactory. And no Supercharger network yet - this could also be the reason for the delay...
The delay also allows them to install more public chargers before the vehicles hit the road. Here in the US we won't get this vehicle, we have to wait for the ID 4. I admit that the ID 4 will probably sell better in North America but it does mean that we will be about a year behind the UK.
I think this car, and indeed the whole ID range, has tremendous potential! The id3 is certainly an exciting little car with wide-reaching appeal. I worry about the price point however. The 58Kwh First Edition in the UK won’t be the Max spec, my theory is because this would come in above the £40,000 luxury car tax which plagues the model 3. I really hope I’m wrong, but I think VW will use early adopters to maximise profits in the knowledge competition of available EV’s is still very limited.
It looks like a great vehicle . But why is it only the top spec variant that gets the heat pump ? Come on VW a heat pump should be a no brainer as a standard fitting in all their id3 range
Conor Nugent No according to Chris from Battery Life who has a reservation for an ID3 and lives in Southern Germany , he has been over the specs and options meticulously and only apparently people who place orders from colder countries ie Finland Norway Iceland etc will get heat pumps as standard . Watch his videos Conor very informative. No heat pump is one reason I have not put down a reservation, I’m going to hold out for maybe the Seat El Born or hopefully the Skoda E Vision which are all built on the MEB platform . Or maybe VW will start to install heat pumps as standard .
I would wait and see what is actually being offered when you can actually buy one. My guess is the small battery, budget version, could be paired down but won't be a good buy. Folk will want the mid or high spec versions.
FFVoyager As I said earlier if you watch Battery Life 🔋 The guy ( Chris ) talks about the spec sheet from VW and what exactly you get with each particular vehicle ie low spec med spec high spec . I really wish a car manufacturer would bring a car to market without so much of the autonomy and holographic HUD just a practical affordable car with a great range 250-300 miles . By the time they do come to market the UK government will have knocked the plug in car grant on the head apart from the lucky Scots who can apply for a £35000 grant or is it £30000 ? Either way I may have to become a Scottish resident 😁Shame the rest of the UK can’t get access to EV grants like that EV,s prices would drop like a stone I would hope and would also help towards the UK cloud cuckoo land Co2 goals .
Sounds like typical VW, set a low base price and make all the standard features everyone expects as optional extras. Sat nav, air con, rapid carging, heating will all be extra add ons to bump up the price to 40k
It’s not as pretty as the concept promised (ok no surprise) but looks “ok” and it’s not as cheap as they suggested but the price is “ok” (for an EV right now). So yeah I’m still interested in this as a next car in a year or two, but with a mild sense of anticlimax.
Ok so to put the record straight. Ist edition models...prices start at 40000 euros 46000 and 50000. They are now being ordered in Germany for April delivery. I have reservation for one but as yet no confirmation from 've UK. So mid priced car is 40.771 pound so luxury car tax on a golf sized car 🤔
Here in the US we are obsessed with VW buses and Westys and pay huge money to restore and keep them running. We would go nuts for the Buzz priced right but VW is holding off the production of its most interesting vehicle by a few years giving other manufacturers a chance to beat them to the punch. I just don't get it! They have a vehicle that everyone is crazy about and they already have the platform to build it on. Absolutely stupid that they aren't putting it out next year.
What's the difference if I decide a want a ID.3 today and I have to wait months for it to go on sale, or just place a pre-order now and wait months for it to be built?
I wouldn't say they're late to the party. Delaying launch sounds like a good idea because of possible dealer markup. If its too much it might turn people away. But the risk is another company announcing a closer competitor to the ID3
Voice control if it works is fine. If it doesn't then the lack of buttons is a distraction. You have to use a touch screen = a safety issue just like using a mobile on the go which is illegal..DOH.
I think, VW's claims of the ID.3 being the "next big thing since Beetle and Golf" are justified. For a couple of reasons, some of which already pointed out. But is IMHO worth to summarize them here: 1. It's a entirely new platform. MEB is the basis for all EV's coming out of VW, Skoda, Seat, Audi and the likes for the near future. One can expect many more models to appear. 2. It's design puts petrol car concepts to the rest. It's much bigger inside than you would expect based on the outer dimension. Shape has changed (no long bonnet anymore, no flashy air intake fakes, etc) to utilize what EV as a "all in the floor" platform has to offer. 3. There is an entirely new factory for it. They have been starting more or less from scratch. And there are more factories in the planning stage. They seriously bet on the car being successful and put their money where their mouth is. 4. The ID.3 is reasonably priced and offers reasonable performance and features. Price is Ok, range is fair to excellent (depending on model), they got the charging options right, the interior/exterior dimensions are suitable for the majority of usecases and the performance is also adequate for most people and markets. I will be in the market for an EV the next two years and the ID.3 is a serious contender. Teslas are too big for me, as I can do with something smaller - although they still have an edge.
I wonder when the compact SUV is coming out. That might be more interesting, especially if they can bring the 0-100km/h time under 6 seconds and offer an attractive price.
the i3 still has the better looking interior, the touch screen panel on this looks like a fisher price toy lol also this seems to have a lot less floor room and space than the i3 as far as I can tell where as the i3 has a flat floor going from the drivers side through to the passenger
I don't need such a big car. So I will wait for something smaller and cheaper. But having said that. I like what I see, except for the dashboard. I like knobs that I can find without looking.
Unfortunately the manufacturers have decided that small cars are only good for the city, so they put small batteries in them and low charging speeds. They believe for motorways people need big cars for some reason. I am perfectly happy in a small car on the motorway. The point being the new Zoe, nice battery size however only 50 kwh CCS charger as an expensive option and no adaptive cruise control as they say it is not designed for the motorways.
Ryan people should have expected any different for the interior. The only differences that was going to happen is the 62 kWh battery . They just redid the body shape in 2018 so I knew to expect only the bigger battery. Yes it would be nice to have liquid cooling but I saw a youtuber interview a Nissan rep and he said no liquid cooling. So anyone expecting a different car was not paying attention
Price of them are too high for the avg buyer switching to EV. I know much tech, but 40-60k... Looking forward to driving this. Any date it arrives in North America?
Stock pile makes no sense to me. I’d like one so i’m still left waiting whether I ordered it now or when I’m allowed to! That leaves me with a problem. I have a deposit on the MG EV, I’m test driving it on Monday. Reviews have been positive including yours. If VW told me that I can have the ID3 line 2 by June they’d get my money but right now they & possibly I could lose out.
Plus there is no firm pricing available, when it does arrive it will be at the high end and you still get a car locked in a point in time with no revisions or updates? Have a look at the lovely Peugeot e208, at least that car has pricing and can be ordered. Unless the website has been changed since I last looked!
@@michaelsummers9579 what vw were saying at Frankfurt was it takes time to retrain staff and get a new production line set up and up to speed for a all new car. So it might be a bit of both
I love EV's and I'm ready to buy now but it seems the market isn't ready yet. I'd like to at least view the model I'm interested in and be able to collect it within a few weeks. Also I want to feel like I'm not being screwed over on the price! The ID3 seems to start at the right price about £27k but the optioned car we all want is WAY more expensive than that. I think I'll just wait a couple of years and decide then. Although I would say the MG seems like a great deal ATM but I'd prefer a smaller car.
@@cbromley562 thanks although im a fan of Tesla and their technology I'm not really a car person TBH haha. What I mean is I like my vehicles to be boxy and more practical than saloon cars. I really want a mid size van with the battery range and tech as the cars. Until then I'd be interested in a small ev for a few years.
Not to be sacrilegious, but will Volkswagen offer hybrids or plug in hybrid versions of these cars? I live in the US and love to go camping. I won't consider an all electric vehicle because there are few to no charging points in the rural US (unless you own a Tesla).
Sounds great I wish the Notagolf really existed, tell me more about the so-called Renault! Well I'm dreaming, how about a new new new E-Beetle people's car. "It was all a dream" - Biggie
With their long and often dubious history, I'll believe it when it happens. The car sounds about right by 2019 standards, but they're still stringing out the release process; making people wait for unacceptably long times for a car in a rapidly evolving marketplace. The danger is that it will likely sound like a run-of-the-mill car at too high a price, a year from now. The MG and maybe the Peugeot/Dacia will (MG already have) undercut their prices drastically, and others will follow suit, in fairly quick succession. For Volkswagen to live up to their name, 'People's Car', both the price and performance need to be affordable and adequate for people's requirements. As stated, wait and see what happens, and then decide whether VW have provided the correct product.
I think VW are onto a winner, first big euro manufacturer to come out with a mass market EV and it looks good. Those other vehicles you mention are lower end, the VW will have better dynamics, safety and I think will have better battery longevity over the life of the car.
We have to wait till at least 2022 to get the I'd.3 ... I wish they released it sooner here, our country was also affected by diselgate so I think they should do it sooner
Let’s be honest, VW are expensive when compared to the likes of Ford, Peugeot and Nissan but they sell in huge numbers and people are very brand loyal, even with the recent scandal. This will be a big seller and should be the start of a very successful ID brand.
Buy a cheap Peugeot or Dacia ... and be happy ... There is no reason to complain cause buyers decide. A corsa and peugeot are not comparable ... cause in 10 to 15 years they are crap or better reborn or reused regarding its metal. You can buy dozens of VW Golf in good shape from the 80ies but nearly no Peugeot or Opel Corsa. Why? crap - in the long run. i had bought a new Opel GSI 16 V back in its dawn as a Golf GTI hunter chaser killer. After 2 years the complete gasoline lines from the tank to the engine were rotted and leaking. Great engine, great seats (from a supplier), great design .... but a piece of crap, noises, ... rust. Born to rust. Never bought an Opel again and went on to BMW and its 7 series and 2 dozens of Mercedes up to SL 600 and down to Smart ... The id3 is a great car in the current state ... but I can not see if something better arrives. Haven't seen any serious competition while VW is attacking the entry level market at 20000€ or less with sko city go or seat mii or VW e-up. This is the real and easiest market for ev ... daily drivers with less than 100 km each day and a huge part of city traffic. You do not need 300 km range on cars in urban traffic like care agents for elderly or "meal on wheels" drivers or pizza delivery ... they drive 50 to 125 km each day 365 days ... as company cars. Ask a dhl parcel driver about his daily mileage in a city: 60km and most of that from and to depot.
Working furiously behind the scenes , sort of working , not furiously, maybe furious they have had to pay fines , go to jail etc , still nothing worth a dam yet. Rear wheel drive because it’s easier to make . Ps still love the id3 . Charging speed at 11kw half that of the Zoe’s
My problem is the lack of physical buttons for instance the lack of rear windows switch on the drivers door is crazy since since they put them on the mk8 golf which shares most of the dash elements, the seat colours are just drab, give us a light interior option and some colours for the outside, red green, yellow,burgundy I really am struggling to justify keeping my deposit down and still waiting for vw U.K. to get a demo before making a final decision, why do car companies think that going ev means we want less creature comforts, only Hyundai and Kia seem to have got the formula right in the sub 45k category, Nissan still hasn’t fixed the steering wheel movement and listen to previous owners that we want a liquid cooled/heated pack I hate to say it but I may just jump to mk 8 gte instead and it’s a real shame vw kuldip have really done well but instead it’s playing homage to i3 and cutting corners everywhere
I love EVs ... i have a soul EV and a model 3 is on order .... this VW looks good and they have TV ads all they have not got is a car for sale, so i am kind of bored with it already and by summer next year there will be a wide choice of EVs including a tesla model Y .... but if they can make enough to supply the demand unlike the embarrassing kona and niro that would push them to the front....
It doesn’t make sense for VW to be sitting on 1 billion euros of inventory. Unless they are holding onto them until they are convinced they are being built with adequate quality.
Hmmmm difficult one this, fabulous they’ve made this car, not certain if it came to a choice between a Model 3 or ID3, probably go for the Tesla as tried and tested. But like others I will be waiting a few years for things to settle down. Happy to drive our Zoe Q90 and the Range Rover PHEV for now, so saying for the right price and spec we would swap out the Zoe, especially if it’s got a 250 to,300 mi range !
I'm disappointed at the fact that they are not selling in the US and price much higher than they said 10 years ago. My 3 has been great for over a year and 20k miles
@@martialman.4563 Then you're part of a very small minority. VW will bring an EV to the US, but it will be an SUV. Selling the ID.3 there would not be profitable for them. The Golf has been their best selling car in Europe for decades, sales figures in the US however are negligible.
@@wermagst What will hurt VW sales in USA is price. I would rather buy another model 3 or Y for just a little more. If VW was 30k$ it would sell in US, especially they still have tax credits and Tesla will soon have none.
the finished car on the outside just does not excite me like the concept car does, I know cars don't often look exactly like the concepts but the bits they have changed just don't do it for me, they should have also had retracting door handles too I think
Beautiful car. Renault Zoe is in the same range, but cheaper. Tesla is better than both, but needs more investment. If the Tesla pays back from the auto pilot, then it might be considered cheaper, if it saves time on the highway.
Not sure it's a good idea to store a new car (and battery pack!) unused for 18 months. Most cars these days are built to order. What if they make 100,000 red ones and customers want 100,000 blue ones - silly example perhaps, but...
Maybe they won’t be stock piling them with batteries? Maybe they don’t have access to their $100/kWh batteries until summer 2020? It’s VW what ever they are telling us it’s not the truth.
