Today we remove the rusted floor pans from the 1967 VW Karmann Ghia chassis! Let's see if we can bring it back to life! CT's Garage, CT, ctmoog #restoration #vw #rust
So, just to weigh in with my two cents here, first off it's usually a good idea to have the part that you are replacing in hand first before tearing apart an existing structure. This way you can see how it fits and if you need to make any adjustments. Now you have to hope that the new parts will fit exactly like the old ones did and you have no point of reference to go by. Secondly, when separating panels like that it's usually a good idea to at least grind down the top layer so that you get the metal thin enough that it just pops off. The way that you are doing it, it generally tears up the metal and makes a mess of things. If you DO insist on doing it this way, at least use a chisel that is meant for the job. A 5 in 1 tool is used for scrpaing paint and spackling, not for chiseling metal. Hopefully you can get some practice with your welder before putting this back together. Can't wait to see the progress when you get to that point! Good luck!
Can you imagine drilling each one of those spot welds. the times you drill through and how much time it would take. 10 times as much work and not as nice a job.... just saying.
Hey CT, I do enjoy all of your disassembly/restoration videos, but when do you predict you will do an assembly video? All of your projects appear to head in one direction, and I haven't seen any of them make the turn back to working vehicles yet. Which project do you think will be the first to head back in that direction?
It takes a lot of time to fully disassemble, repair than completely re assemble everything. Clearly you have never worked on a car. Same with everyone else in the comment section who makes fun of Ct for never “completing” a build.
@@danielhelbig1116 O give me a fucking break you would think CT is the only person that has done that to a car I have done 5 my self and I finished all 5 of them and so have countless others even on RU-vid check Budget Builds he did a 911 from the floor up and is just about finished and a lot of other people...
@@danielhelbig1116 Surely it´s harder to disassemble and repair than to put things together again. But it is much more difficult indeed if you rip four or five cars, one after another, and never begin to assemble the thousands of pieces all spread around.
Working off the ground or knees is for amateurs and kids....once you start getting your work piece at a comfortable height ( table or stands ) and sit in a chair or stand without straining yourself....you will realize how much easier anything is...and being able to turn or move your work ( rotisserie or rotating stand ) also makes life better....we all do work on the ground at times..but constantly doing is silly??
This is not meant to sound rude or mean. Throw that paint tool in the garbage or leave it at home for what it’s intended for. But it was painful watching you work with the paint scraper and adjustable pliers to get that metal loose. You should have used the air hammer the entire time to get the floors off including the metal strips. It’s the fastest and easiest way. I know, I’ve done several VW pans. And to all you guys that say drill out all those welds. You’re nuts. Do it and come back and tell how long it took to get the floors off. The only reason to drill holes would be in the new pan halves to plug weld them back on, but even then there is a pneumatic hole punch tool for that. Oh and another guy said get it up off the ground at a good work height. You’re killing your back.
I just love how you open Pandora’s Box on every vehicle you touch! Probably better to sand blast, epoxy sealer, seam seal and repair only what’s needed.
Looks like you got the hang of that air chisel near the end. That’s a good tool for this kind of job. But the dollies were definitely working against you. Yes a solid work table would be better or, even a pair of simple saw horses to raise that chassis and keep it from moving on you.
CT, I don't know if anyone has commented this yet, but your Ghia had coilover shocks in the rear. Judging by the damage/cut in the center of the torsion housing it looks like a PO might have removed torsion springs.
Hi..i prefer to sandblast or use abrasive sponge wheel to get to the shinny base metal. After that, make the parchment of holes with fiberglass cloth and boating epoxy. All to preserve the structural integrity. Anyway i am impressed of your work.
Damn it CT. Go to harbor freight and get a few spot weld removers. And while you’re there get 2 more blue tarps. That Florida sun eats those tarps. Double them up.
You need a mini belt sander on those spot welds ... well I guess you should drill them - but the sander would get 'em off fast and clean. Not good to just chisel spot welds. God Luck and keep going!
Use a die grinder and different carbide bits ( shapes that help get into tight spots or create a curve etc ..) When you need to grind where a grinder can't fit....
Good work CT. I have every faith in you getting this done right, it’s more work than you initially thought but this is going to be achievable now you’ve got to where you are. You already did the work on the chassis for the dragon and you got all the running gear knowledge from rusty with the axles and brakes etc. I can see you getting this pieced back together using that knowledge and experience - Keep going and keep having fun! 👌🏻🇬🇧
I remember the first time I was preparing to remove a panel and weld a new one on. I looked on RU-vid and found out about drilling out spot welds and spot weld drill bits. Man did it make everything easy. You’re doing a great job chopping that car up into smaller pieces to store it in corner where you’ll never finish it.
Agree to the "getting them back together is the difficult part"; I bet I have found, bought at least 1/2 dozen "Bugs" in which the owner watched too many TV Auto Restoration shows and thought, "Wow that looks easy and they did it all in 30 minutes" only too find it takes time, you need the tools and most important a "good - very large space" in which to work. I just recently picked up a Ghia in similar need; not too bad, just needs wiring and interior, all the body, paint done. Starts and drives (up on the trailer) but when you get vehicles that need "put back together" you never know what you are getting into. Not sure where you are on this Gia but I'll try to watch all the way to the completion. Take care, good luck.
Every time you started chiseling I wanted to reach out and hold that tunnel still😝 As a suggestion. You should put on a couple locking caster wheels on each dolly. That would hold it still a little batter for you.
Appreciate your showing all methods of rust removal but whilst the sand blasting is messy I think it does a better job of getting into all the knocks and crannies. So with that in mind I'd find a company that does it ready for painting. I would also have stripped it all down first. why have you not just cut out and welded in metal patches where necessary? why buy a whole new floor pan, from what I saw the pan was not too bad. Anyhow it is very interesting to watch.I will follow with interest. Cheers Gil Beecheno from Australia.
Not that I'm going to do "another" body-off restoration, the last VW Bug was allot of work and when I look back at the documented work (pics) I think, how did I ever do all that - BUT - recently obtained a Ghia and it's nice watching your work, identifying where all the parts go, how they are connected, etc. Makes it much easier to understand what may be going wrong and how to fix it......thanks for the videos
Ps can I suggest that instead of the multi grips pliers you make yourself a stripping tool to remove the thin tin like off cut. to make the tool get a straight piece of steel weld it as a T bar then cut a slot in the bottom end that slids onto the metal to be removed, you can then twist it like a tin opener
Yes, I considered patching them but after looking at it closer they really needed to be replaced and I want to learn how to do it as well. But yes they could have been patched for sure.
@@CTmoog Yes, it is a good way to learn but I was always recommended not to remove everything and to try to remove as little as possible of the original part
Nice work CT, coming along good. For the future though, get yourself a spot weld drill bit so you can drill those spot welds then use your splitter tool to pop those welds instead of fighting them so much. Since you plan to do several vehicles at least, that bit would be a good investment for you, it'll save you so much headache and labor fighting welds like that.
Excellent video CT :) also did super job also practice on make perfect performance also nice job too and wait till get pans in also check were going weld too! One step at time CT :) also should be a company does lots aftermarket parts plus ones need on Volkswagen Ghia car to fix with and lots people must fix them besides you are?
That scraper isn't thick enough..it is for paint home work not metal working....you can make one out of flat steel or a old lawnmower blade or anything thicker....again !!! DRILL OUT THOSE SPOT WELDS!! 😵
Yah, I was wrong about it, the tunnel is closed from below... Well, we learn every day... Anyway, I tihnk it would be a better choice to pick the spots (points) instead of cutting because you will probably have some difficulties with mounting positions later.. I would not mess with the cross member adges, maybe just clean those a bit with the grinder. Consider the fact that new pans will almost certainly not fit as the old ones, so you'll have to make adjustments.. And if you run out of edge to fix it on.. At least wait untill you get the pans, so you'll see before how it fits and trim later.. That's what I would do, but it doesn't mean you have to do it. Try to foresee the next step and do what you think right. I have failed in the past, every failure was a school lesson. =) Good work, keep on!
We all seem to like watching him tear things apart. I think he should just focus on that and not worry about rebuilding. It’s kind of like the show How It’s Made just in reverse
If you would have made the casters stop rolling around you would have had an easier time with the cutters. Seems every time you started the air chisel, the entire assembly would roll out of reach. Just an idea for future efforts.
You gotta drill those spot welds off to not destroy what your saving!! Then gently seperate the pieces of metal...objective is to not create more work... Your going to weld the new pieces in anyways...so holes aren't a problem...
Just clean off the joint where the spot welds are...sandblast or wire wheel it....you can see the spot welds....drill them so they come apart easily when you start seperating the joints....your making it too much harder the way your doing it
Awesome!! Can’t wait to see everything sandblasted and recoated and new floors installed! Keep those rear braces in the back; they look solid and help you line up the new pans. Now is also the time to replace your rear torsion bar rubber bushings; bet you they have never been changed.
