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Vz-Hextrudort WaterCooled Prototype + Goliath Hotend.

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In this one I am assembling the setup and putting it to the test. FYI, no it is not ready to sell, neither are the helical gears. I don't have a date yet. I want to fully test this guy first and beat it. I expect it to be ready in March 2023 maybe.
-We will have Vz-Hextrudort spare parts, helical gear sets, LOTS of Goliath with spare parts for worldwide, more Vz330 kits. 2023 things will flow better in terms of availability :)
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@Nordern Год назад

Now that's a really cool idea! combining the extruder with the cooling block!

@JoshMurrah Год назад

Dude I’m SUPER impressed with your IS results - so nice!!

@fail_fast Год назад

It's incredible for a machine of this size, especially on the Y

@Vez3D Год назад

yeah its pretty good. Though amplitude is a little higher than before.. but I think its due to the fact that I had nozzle brace before, and now there is none. But its still super stiff and quite amazing on the IS

@thomaswiley666 Год назад

I really love the simplicity of the connections and the slim form factor of the assembled unit.

@MihaiDesigns Год назад

Cool progress Vez!

@XeroShifter Год назад

I literally bought the previous version for air cooling last night lol. Now I'm going to have to buy parts to replace. Such is the price of progress I guess. Great to see your passion never seems to wane. Honestly so excited to upgrade my printer. Its not a VZ or HevOrt (Ender 6), but I'll keep pushing it until I can afford to build one myself.

@MrJofArnold Год назад

Addictive isn't it? 😂

@radicalphil1871 Год назад

FINALLY the solution! I've waited exactly for this to come for months. The rest were just sub-steps. Great work and eventually the only logical solution to all of it! Unfortunately I miss the time to build this myself. So I waited for you to do it.

@OfficialyMax Год назад

I am in awe and have so much feeling of jealousy on such a beast of a 3d printer. People like you are the future of 3d printer engineering. Oh and speed benchys :P

@johnmulligan9299 Год назад

Just found your channel. You have some awesome printers. I have been printing for just under a year and Im in love with it. I have an Ender 3 V2 and just got a Creality K1. Please keep the videos coming!

@witalijlewandowski2384 Год назад

How cool this thing is! I always though water cooling is good for only specific cases. And it's best example - shorter filament path, no moving parts for cooling on print head, temperature in chamber can be as high as anyone need - and nothing affects cooling quality.

@everettebinger5956 Год назад

This is so freaking awesome!!

@FlexMoePower Год назад

First 👊. Can't wait for production model. 😎

@bob_mosavo Год назад

Thanks, Vez 😁

@Andi-Maringer Год назад

Realy awesome job!!!! I run Vorons and RatRigs. But i think a vzbot is one of the next!!!!!!

@randomdamian Год назад

You know it's a good day when you see a new VEZ video :D

@MauriceMischo Год назад

Awesome design 💪💪

@HelgeKeck Год назад

very stylish setup

@ColtonOnushko Год назад

watching this video then doing something on my ender 3 is hilarious. It's mindblowing how quick this thing is

@twanheijkoop6753 Год назад

Just received my vzhextrudortlow a few days ago, probably gonna pick up the helical gears and reverse Bowden adapter.

@skydragon1966 Год назад

badass

@Dave-wv9vc Год назад

Vez you're iterating so fast my wallet can barely keep up!

@jzagaja Год назад

Simon - artist and engineer at once 🙂Gentlemant please make mounting for bed slingers like Kobra Max.

@pmcquay1 Год назад

tapped nozzle for measuring resonance?! My mind is blown! Never thought of that but it makes so much sense.

@Vez3D Год назад

yep

@DubMassTV Год назад

@@Vez3D Any chance you could do a guide on how to set up that nozzle mount? Struggling to find a place to mount the accelerometer on my stock Tronxy X5SA carriage. (slowly working toward converting it to vzbot)

@_Xantras_ Год назад

The aluminum carriage doesn't even seem hot at all, damn

@strictnonconformist7369 Год назад

To boldly go where no one has gone beore! Missing a letter in your graph labels ;)

@Vez3D Год назад

Oops.. thanks haha. Too late though

@bdykes7316 Год назад

Have you measured the static vertical stiffness of the printhead? High extrusion rates might produce enough force to slightly lift the nozzle up.

@SinaShahsana Год назад

you can offer 1 ptfe tubing holder for 3mm and people who have moon motor can put 0.5 mm washer in the Gap, you can even add the washer in kit. that is way easier.

@jeejeeism Месяц назад

Hi! Such Cool builds You got, keep it coming! I've beingn swirling some grazy idea to have watercooled CoreXY build out of my CE5P with VZ heads and tool changer. So there'd be cooled toolrack for like some 5 heads and one cooling circulation in carrier to avoid some complexity of tubing if those heads needed their own tubing each. There's still whole lotta iteration with it like controlling and progr etc but just wanted to hear some sophisticated opinion of Yours about the question of 4:01 @ the vid and could that fixing be able to be implemented around that heatbreak, i'd liked to state that is possible, what You think?

@T3chWarrior Год назад

Beautiful!

@DMonZ1988 Год назад

hey Vez, this thing is stunning! what a beauty. unfortunately aliexpress has stopped shipping to austria recently. could you let us know when you have stock at one of your EU vendors please?

@Vez3D Год назад

yeah it should be soon this week Im re-organizing with Mellow and distributors

@BigfootPrinting Год назад

Zirconia through the entire melt zone is going to be a problem I think. Especially if using a tungsten carbide nozzle that mates to it. Those ceramics are not going to give at all and things may shatter when heated. Also, may I suggest checking out the libra mini gears? They have both sides helical so that the thrust in a configuration like yours is negated. Otherwise maybe consider thrust bearings for the gears.

@Vez3D Год назад

hehe I know about those dual helical gears.. since.. I worked on this with Mellow and I have one version of the Vz-Hextrudort that uses those gears. BUT its just way too expensive to make so we dont make them anymore. As for Zirconia, maybe I said it wrong, but I didnt mean all the way through the entire melt zone.. I meant all the way though the heatbreak. But after discussions with good engineers , the current design will last long even with several spools of CF abuse.. but it will eventually need to be replaced. But we will have replacement. And maybe have a full Ti one option

@BigfootPrinting Год назад

@@Vez3D I print mainly GF nylon so I’d want the titanium option definitely. mellow isn’t making any more of the dual gears anymore you’re saying? Or that it was too much cost for this particular extruder?

@Vez3D Год назад

@@BigfootPrinting no more dual helical. As for the heatbreak.. will check to make a Ti option

@swfreeD Год назад

you have to check the temperatures differently, a thermal camera does not measure the actual emissivity of highly reflective materials, what you probably measured there was most likely temperature of a nearby object getting reflected in the metal. thermal cameras are not accurately measuring materials which act like a polished mirror for infra red heat radiation. you can try that by standing in front of brushed stainless steel, for you its just a metal surface, but in the thermal cam image it looks like you stand in front of a mirror, you can see yourself, and you can even measure your body heat, but not the temperature of the metal itself.

@Vez3D Год назад

I agree. I should put a tape on it or something. But the temp of the motor was right since it has a mat finish. Also.. to the touch shows me its working very good. It says cool :)

@ehrans2 Год назад

Awesome rig bro!, Have you any detailed video explaining how do you attach the input shaper probe to the nozzle itself? Is mind blowing

@hakkaisha Год назад

Looks awesome! You are pushing the bounderies och what can be done with aluminium and 3d printing! Is this a solution to the patent?

@Vez3D Год назад

Yes, it is

@ralmslb 5 месяцев назад

I think I'm buying this extruder (WC version) and adapt it somehow to another heat block (not a fan of the extremely long Goliath). Is the heat break thread the same as like a E3D V6? Is there a CAD version of the water cooled version ? Thank you

@simonbrandeis Год назад

Wow, I'm amazed of your work on this special printer. I'm currently waiting for the Parts to arrive for my Vz330 build. What Filament are you use, whitch you mentioned in the end? Whitch Brand and Type? I'm thinking of printing the Parts for the VzBot with that. Thank You.

@kalashin1529 Год назад

would be interesting, to see how much °C the Water of the cooling increased :) nice video, nice idea, nice guy!

@Vez3D Год назад

I can tell you.. only by 2-3c

@tombo7719 Год назад

New subscriber, that thing is a BEAST! What filament were you using if u dont mind?

@Vez3D Год назад

ABS CF

@tombo7719 Год назад

@@Vez3D interesting.. what are you setting the cooling at? I have always shut fan off on ABS, interested to see what you say

@Vez3D Год назад

@@tombo7719 30% cpap.

@tombo7719 Год назад

@@Vez3D THANKS! I WILL TRY IT OUT SEE IF IT HELPS!

@johndamigos3833 Год назад

I have an issue with the cooling, i have exactly that configuration and when i am printing abs/asa with the enclosure (260 hotend) after some time i can't touch the extruder, is to hot!

@SoundShunter72 Год назад

I thought the red fitting was intentional, to fit with the theme. Looks good imo.

@Vez3D Год назад

not everyone likes red :) black is a fit for all :)

@Lux158 Год назад

Really nice! I just thought a bit and.. did you use FEM(or other) to simulate the loads, maybe you could even remove more material :D A while ago I saw a ultralight Voron Rail (I think it was the x-axis) where the the original tube was basically completely milled away.. :D But i also assume the extra load from 20m/s needs a bit "more" than a simple axis.. :D

@Lux158 Год назад

Also an addition, since I need to sell a kidney anyway (hopefully you understand the joke :D ), why didn't you use titan, then you might be able to get even smaller maintaining the same strength.. :)

@MrJofArnold Год назад

Just imagine an all titanium VzBot! 🤤

@rafsh1846 Год назад

Can you please share that low profile part cooling duct

@torquemada1971 Год назад

Hey dumb question, your plate height is only contolled in two areas. Wouldn't three point ensure it rises and lowers evenly?

@HReality Год назад

I’m trying to find a complete assembly/setup video of the head with water cooling and it’s pump/wiring etc. can you point me in a direction?

@dayumcraig7657 9 месяцев назад

I'm a little confused - documentation of the whole thing is unfortunately very poor, there is the Hextrudort with water cooling and there is the goliath with water cooling. Is one of the two enough? Can I run a water cooled goliath with an additional water cooled hextrudort unit (4 fittings)? thanks in advance

@michail1963 2 месяца назад

when purchasing the Hextrudort set, I need to purchase the Moon motor, adaptor plate and new copper zirconium tube separately right? And where can I find the CNC PTFE tube holder? And do I get the Goliath nozzle and hot end in Mellow 330 AWD kit from the start? sorry but description on Aliexpress is not the best or I suck at finding things.

@Vez3D 2 месяца назад

The new hextdudort plus has built-in ptfe holder

@michail1963 2 месяца назад

@@Vez3D Thanks. Your comment prevented me from ordering the wrong Hextrudort...

@manray8513 Год назад

i hope they will be available on mellow

@TrippyRiddimKid Год назад

And here I am cheering on my ender 3 to do 2500 accel and 120mm/sec. I need a corexy...

@daliasprints9798 Год назад

Klipperized E3 with per axis limits patch can do 6-8k on X on outer perimeters, 80k X and 20k Y elsewhere.

@BigfootPrinting Год назад

@@daliasprints9798 where is that per axis accel patch located?

@daliasprints9798 Год назад

@@BigfootPrinting "Limited Cartesian" is the key phrase. It adds a new kinematics module that's a variant on normal cartesian with the per axis limits.

@jerodernst6706 Год назад

So im probably just lost, but is there a place i chould buy this whole setup? And also how does it do printing PA12-CF, so i guess what would the top temp be to operate at safe. But also dangggg, that is moving and looks damn solid. Love it

@Apophis-en9pi Год назад

Kudos for not using slice boron nitride!! 😂😂

@MrOrangeman18 Год назад

nice one. looking smart. BTW is this cube downloadable anywhere? thanks

@Vez3D Год назад

Yes in github.com vzbot3d github.com/VzBoT3D/VzBoT-Vz330/blob/master/Assemblies%20BOM%20and%20STL/Print%20Test/VzCube.stl

@Psych0h3ad Год назад

Niceeee!

@bigwendigo2253 Год назад

What size nozzle are you using for your .24 layer height? 0.4? This is so awesome man. I’m too poor to afford a lot of these components so I’ve got my trusty V1 Ender 3 Pro that I’ve been upgrading piece by piece. Linear rails are the next major upgrade I want to do. I also really want to get a second printer so I can still print while it’s under construction.

@ballbous Год назад

Why not dial in your ender 3 to be reliable then get a tronxy X5S and start slowly working towards a vzbot? You can definitely do it with little upfront investment, upgrade as you go is a lot more fun imo too.

@zacoten.f.6700 Год назад

Good day ! Is it possible to use FYSETC CNC machined gantry for voron 2.4 in VZBot, or carbon fiber square 20х20 tube is prefarable ?

@graydeanj Год назад

Did the hextrudort low shop with helical gears? If not where can I buy them

@Vez3D Год назад

helicals are not yet ready.. in the description you can find the details

@TheEpicknives Год назад

Hot dang, what are the specs for this printer so far? I bought a kobra max recently and have been looking sadly at all the people doing lightning fast fdm prints. The feeling was only offset by seeing how small the fact printers were...until I saw the mk2 ones that looked almost tge same size

@davidbutcher6637 23 дня назад

Hi cant find the Ptfe adaptor alloy link thanks

@imforpeace9511 Год назад

You've mentioned that you used 0.55mm width whilst using the 0.5mm nozzle. Are you doing this to form pressure outwards from the original nozzle diameter, and if so, how does that affect the prints?

@Vez3D Год назад

You normally set your width a bit wider than nozzle

@rmfberry261 Год назад

That y acceleration change seems pretty crazy! has the goliath always been 3 posts or is this a change to try and sell in the US? is this printer really this quiet? Seems like whenever i hear a voron it sounds like its going to shake itself appart

@Vez3D Год назад

Always been 3 posts between core and heatsink

@patrikvojin9620 Год назад

Hi all. Please where buy upgrade For VzHextrudort :)thank you for answer i not see in aliexpress

@timoacktun8478 Год назад

Unfortunately my newly purchased CNC Vz-Hextrudort doesn't perform any better then the printed version before. Still the same Extrusion artifacts pointed out by MirageC. Sadly the praised new shaft assembly and twirlgear did not make a difference. At least for me. Curious if others noticed a difference : /

@timoacktun8478 Год назад

Edit: I used 8t motor and will test again with 10t motor. And maybe the teased heliacal gears will improve performance when available

@Vez3D Год назад

@Timo Acktun yeah use 10th and did you do the alignment procedure? Did you try other spool too? It should improve or remove those artifacts but i hear people running 8th are having issues. Its very touchy to align motor perfectly with a 8th. Try 10th

@timoacktun8478 Год назад

@@Vez3DSame with different filaments. I will try with 10th later. Can you explain more about the alignment procedure?

@Vez3D Год назад

@@timoacktun8478 check here github.com/VzBoT3D/Vz-HextrudORT/tree/main/Installation

@mykola2535 Год назад

@@timoacktun8478 Hey did youever get it to work as intended? The motor I got in my box had a bent shaft so I was forced to swap to a 10th tooth motor. I followed the guide he linked. I am wondering at this point if the pom gear has issues since I have followed his guide.

@MrKRSO Год назад

Any chance of making a replacement helical gear like this for the QR extruder also? With 8mm bore..

@1fareast14 Год назад

I'm considering putting something similar on a dual nozzle v0.1, what is the actual max flow?

@camerongarrow324 3 месяца назад

Where do you buy the adaptor plate ? I can only find the old adaptor plate on the mellow store ?

@Vez3D 3 месяца назад

It's in the vz- hextrudort listing

@camerongarrow324 3 месяца назад

Thanks man.

@PinGuiNPL Год назад

Hi! Which Filament is it? Aaaand any chance to get your Slicer Profiles? Would love to compare them to mine

@Vez3D Год назад

Its mentioned in the video...abs cf. My slicer settings are on github

@Andy-1094 Год назад

Is there a thrust washer for the helical gear set? There will be an axial load applied switching from spur to helical.

@Vez3D Год назад

there is none. and yes there is probably a axial load applied, but i dont think its significant enough to over come the filament+twirl grove force.

@Vez3D Год назад

I have done some artifact test to see if it would cause issues with the axial load pushing gears forward.. but I didnt see any issue so far. Test continues.

@Andy-1094 Год назад

That’s great to hear. I was thinking it’s possible the filament might be taking up the axial load because of the grooved cup feature pushing the filament in. The transferred load axially should not be enough pressure applied to really harm anything anyway. I guess just watch out for any galling you see in your tests. Steel to aluminum will definitely do that over time.

@CBORK27 Год назад

PLA is more suitable to test heatbreak 13:35

@Vez3D Год назад

Another good test..but wanted to test with chamber heat

@brendinemslie8226 Год назад

Looks good. I am looking forward to putting one of these on my large 500x500 printer. I am curious how well it prints with larger diameter nozzles (1mm and up)

@Vez3D Год назад

It prints very good :)

@Michaelhood0 Месяц назад

I follow the alien press link and it's very hard to understand how to buy. Not sure how to identify if it comes with helical gears or how many tooth motor. I see 8t/10t and it discourages purchase because I don't know what I will get

@Vez3D Месяц назад

8 or 10t is a personal preference.

@Michaelhood0 Месяц назад

@Vez3D I still don't know what I'll get the items aren't very descriptive. I don't see helical gears mentioned. I would have likely ordered some parts months ago I only oli could know what I'm buying

@Vez3D Месяц назад

@Michaelhood0 i can help you. Are you on discord?

@Michaelhood0 Месяц назад

@Vez3D I'm not I have a Facebook My wife has been wanting to order me some parts for father's day and I have been unsuccessful in getting her the info she needs to order

@Vez3D Месяц назад

@@Michaelhood0 im ok fb. Group vzbot

@brocksdaddy081910 Год назад

Do you have a regular job and do this on the side or is the main income?

@BeFree0_0 Год назад

Is there a version for non direct driver

@ThomasWood3DPrinting Год назад

Have you ever messed with a crazy rabbit feeder for multicolor? I think one of your builds going incredibly fast and multicolor would be nuts

@neto16478 Год назад

which filament was used ?

@JonS Год назад

When, and why did The Goliath get shorter?

@Vez3D Год назад

when? Like now in this video.. why? It was announced multiple times on all my social that we were working on this project :) Renders were posted weeks ago.. and even a real picture. Why? you mean..... Why NOT ? :P Its the same goliath just without heatsink. Shorter like that

@JonS Год назад

@@Vez3D edit: oh, you just mean shorter because of the heatsink removal. I was thinking the hot section had been shortened.

@Vez3D Год назад

@@JonS nah.. that recipee wont change. Its the same heatblock and same everything

@Jkauppa Год назад

are you cool

@3D_Printing 11 месяцев назад

Gear's are bigger these days

@ChromePhoenixQ Год назад

Careful not to burn out the autofocus motor on ur dslr lens LOL

@pomax007 Год назад

В начале был хороший экструдер на водяном охлаждении. А потом обосрал всю идею добавив тяжелые дополнения! Что дополнение для боудена, что дополнение для горла. Переделывай!