WAIT A MINUTE!! | Nine and Dex - Pecan Pie | THE REAL PETE & BAS?! PUZZLE SOLVED? 

To anyone getting mad, it’s all love! It’s no big deal and what everyone on this team has accomplished is beautiful no matter how they do it. No I don’t study their lives or have a camera up their ass to know their entire background but you can tell they work with, for, or together. Just enjoy the music while we can ❤️ And support all these artists 😊

These two produce everything Pete&Bas do. Plus as their grandkids they help keep up with the slang

Who said Pete and Bas didn't help ghostwrite this with the kids? Its always been admitted the whole thing is a collective effort, old man sayings and fresh slang.

Its not them, the voices sre completely different, fair enough bas's grandson sounds similar to bas, but youd expect that. But writing wise i think pete and bas have told them stories from when they were younger along with old school terms and slang and its all been written in together. Its still pete and bas rapping though.

@cliffbeatz I found this... Nine is 91shots and Dex is Handsome Dexter. Between them, these guys have almost exclusively produced every Sindhu World track. Pete & Bas, The Northern Boys, PKJ and Norm’s solo tracks, and Uncle Bal too. 91shots has produced the beats for every single Norman Pain track to date. They definitely have a massive hand in the project, whether they are writing and training the old boys with their lyrics or voicing it themselves, it’s genius.

91 shots and Handsome Dexter are producers on Pete&Baz’s work. Pete & Baz have said that they write with their grandchildren and you can see that, but the old lingo that Pete & Baz use is not well known to a lot of the youth. But it’s a collaboration in my opinion, Nine and Dex were fire in this though and I couldn’t care less if they wrote every bar that Pete & Baz rap

They’re all related, is it that hard to believe they will sound and act similar when it comes to their music?

I don' t really care if they ghost write for Pete & Bas but I personally don't think they had the same delivery, or charm and they definitely don't have the same impact.

These guys might write for Pete and Bas but I like the old guys delivery better .😂

To be fair Pete and Bas have said numerous times that their grandchildren helped them write and they will sound like each other because there are grandpa and grandson and you learn your mannerisms and accent etc from your family, in close families babies spend most of their time with close family members, often grandparents who often are the day care if both parents work, so that connection is not really that big of a thing. I think people are trying to make it out to be some kind of conspiracy theory when really it’s not, it’s blown way out of proportion, but online that seems to be a thing, it’s like an addiction for some people, they seem to live and breathe trying to turn everything into something it’s not, lol People need to get out more, go touch grass, connect with reality

Any surprise the grandkids Pete & Bas have always said help them write their music, and have been doing it with them for 7 years,. plus were doing the beats for them (91 shots, Nine...get it) and Dex (handsom dexter) are going to make similar music to what they already do? That said much like all the groups from Sindhu who are produced under 91, they have their own voice and feel. Also seriously, Bas's grandkid looks EXACTLY like him. It's kinda creepy how similar they look. Also with that...not a shocker they sound alike.

Nine and Dex are the stage names of 91shots and Handsome Dexter, the two producers of most of Pete and Bas tracks. They are also DJs during live shows. The song "Pecan Pie" by Nine and Dex is a collective effort, with both Nine and Dex admitting to help from their grandfathers, Pete and Bas.

Much love and blessings to Pete and Bas.❤

Much love and blessings to Nine and Dex.❤

I wonder if they're trying to make some connections in the states. Pete and Bas have been in LA for a bit.

On that simpsons bar - sizlack is Moe's surname

I don't understand how people have a problem with believing that these 2 guys are just grandsons of pete & bas. Its not any deeper than that. If you know anything about the UK and the culture, Pet & Bas totally make sense. I mean I was lucky enough to live there for 15 years. Thery are just 2 old gangster types that can flow. And its not much of a stretch to assume that the kids of course have an influence but its not some grand conspiracy to hide something. The 2 old guys are DOPE AF, just give them their props and keep it movin. These guys are fire AF. Nine is 91Shots the producer for Pete & Bas beats. Dex is Handsome Dexter also a producer if im not mistaken.

Pete and bas have a few live shows recorded on youtube, so I doubt it's a voiceover, but obviously it's a collective effort

I would assume the camera work is the same because Nine and Dex produce all of Sindhu Worlds stuff, and I am assuming Sindhu world is who is doing the filming, I don't think they wrote everything for Pete and Bas the flows and topics are very different, not to mention the cadence

They do live shows, that’s their flow and their voice. Just not as polished as when it’s mastered obviously. And that’s their grandsons, they’ve said that they help them write. But Pete and Bas even have behind the scenes on RU-vid of them doing different takes with just their raw vocals and talking between the verses. It’s just a collaborative effort 🤷🏼‍♂️

What if it's the other way around and Pete and Bas write and lay down reference tracks for Nine and Dex? 🤔

Apparently these two are their grandkids I don’t think they use a voice changer. I think Pete and Baz generally do rap but they have the songs written for them and they obviously take heavy influence from their grandkids and how to perform it they do virtually sound identical!!

I’d love a sesh with these guys and Pete and bad. Pete and bas on a chill track like this would blow my mind

It’s been well known for quite a while that Pete and Bas’s grandsons were ghost writing for them

91 & dex got them geezers bars too.."aye yo pops come rap this for me..😂🎉❤

I think Pete & Bas tell them there stories, and the grandkids put those into verses.

Seeing them live these old geezers can rap! No secret they had family members help them write

You're right. It seems that Nine and Dex are very talented but couldnt break out onto the scene as themselves, so they created the Pete and Bas characters (gangster backstory, old men rapping is a novelty) for their grandfathers and made them rap the lyrics. The voices are definitely Pete and Bas, but theyre coached on how to deliver it. Now that Pete and Bas careers have taken off they are piggybacking on it to relaunch their own careers as rappers, Both the grandfathers and the grandsons are clearly very talented, the lyrics and flows are insane, Pete and Bas deserve credit for rapping in their old age, i can see why Nine and Dex want to be more than just the behind-the-scenes, they really do deserve the fame.

If are one and the same, I want to think its Dex & Nine using Pete & Bas voices 🤭🤣

Heres some info i found looking about online. According to BMI Songview which details offical copyright license details or registered people, Addison Barnaby Baxtor (handsome dexter) and Gibson Jonathon Charles Lewis (91 shots) ( Nine and Dex in the recent song) are the only listed writers/composers with pete and bas listed as performers on some songs but not most of them its mainly blank. Those 2 are also the 2 Directors and only position holders of SinduWorld as listed on Company House UK. SinduWorld was also behind Frank and Maury and do the music for all the old ones in the group.

Nine 1 and Handsome Dex are the Producers for Pete and Bas. So the beats will be similar.

I don't think they're ghost writers. Pete and Bas have stories more in line with their age... coffeeshops, tailors, pig farms. These boys are bragging their own shit. P&B have made no secret to the fact that their grandsons...and granddaughters have helped them tidy up lyrics, come up with rhyme schemes and flows that might chop the sentence but maintain the rhyme, and the biggest assist, Pete says, is staying up to date with the slang and youth colloquialism. As for seeing them all together, i was just reading a post on Reddit, and someone posted that Nine and Dex were at a Pete and Bas show...this person said he was at the soundboard with them. They are the main producers for P&B and he said he umderstood them to be at all their live shows. He knew for certain that they were not secretly miked backstage with P&B lip syncing and he seemed to understand the setup well enough to guarantee there was also no recording be played, especially since there was a messup on the lyrics that went along with what he saw Pete and Bas doing. I have heard Pete and Bas in interviews and their talking voices match their rapping voices.

More bahz than a Ram squaring up the opz 😅🐐💥💢🐏

Pete and boss have always been honest about the fact that their grandkids help them with the current slang. As far as I understand, these are their grandkids, so it makes sense that they sound like the original duo.

99shots and handsome dexter

These ladds ten steps ahead of everybody❤enjoy!!😅

These guys are 91 Shots and Handsome Dexter, credited on every song by Pete and Bas and even a lot of the Northern Boys too. The smoking gun that proves they're the ones doing all this is they're both the directors of Sindhu World, the owners of Sindhu Sesh where these guys first came out. They're listed on the company directory under their actual names and have been since like 2017, Bas is a piano player and former notary and council member for Croydon, real name Basil Preuveneers. He's also done some background acting work. Im 90% sure Dex does the voice for Bas, it becomes clearer when you listen to the american version of old men rappers Frank and Maury because one of their voices is literally "Bas" with an american accent. Frank and Maury were also managed by Sindhu World. Petes a bit trickier because his speaking voice is really close to his rapping voice, and his flow clearly changed and improved as they released songs so I'm pretty sure he's actually rapping. I still think Pete and Bas help with writing purely based on some of the more obscure old school references they make in their songs. So they weren't exactly lying when they said they do their own writing, they just don't do it alone. I'm not saying this to out them because I don't think it diminishes how fucking incredible they are at writing and rapping, it's clear now that they've stepped in front of the camera they've decided they want the mask to slip. Wouldn't surprise me if they announce the whole thing this year, the novelty has worn off for some people I think.

Firstly, kinda stands to reason that family will have similarities in both appearance and even voice/accent. Secondly it's always been well known that these 2 help Pete and Bas write their bars. Pete and Bas do most of the heavy lifting while these guys help with culture references/lingo etc. to keep them current. Don't get me wrong I know it's all love, but try not to take away from the old boys' ability!

They can be the ghost writers for Pete & Bas all they want because its not just the bars that make Pete & Bas its the delivery and flow as well...

What if these guys actually have Pete & Bas ghost writing for them? 😂

Let’s go 👍🏽👍🏽👋👋AOD ❤️❤️👵🏼

I heard Nine and Dex are Pete and Bas's grandkids.

Casisdead is also rumoured to ghostwrite for them, which makes more sense as they use multiple flows from him.

To me, this was their public reveal that they have a heavy hand in writing at the least, flowcoached, entirely ghostwritten at the most. To quote the intro: "Pay attention morons" Sindhu Sesh - "Cannon on me like Gundam" The Gentlemen - "Puffing on Ratchet Clank" They've been sprinkling in hints for years. So far, there's no evidence of kayfabe as Pete was open in saying their grandkids help them write in the Fumez interview.

Honestly I think Pete and Bas do actually spit the bars cause they do live shows and a voice changer wouldn't be ideal, although if it was then they have entertained a lot of people cause the bars the lyrics the flows are always brilliantly done; it might be a case now we're maybe they want to step back and let their grandson's take the limelight and am definitely here for it they are good ✌️

The brick top reference is about a cockney mob boss in the movie snatch

Saw P&B and Northern Boys live recently and they were definitely not miming.

I heard they're related. Dex is the spit of bas and has a similar voice. But they are different, I'm sure of it. It's no surprise Pete and bas have had help writing their bars, but I also believe Pete and bas contribute heavily to the vernacular used and of course their delivery speaks for itself.

Pete and bass are there grandads. !!!!!!!!!!!

I ❤ them! Meaning Pete and Bas... And if they collaborate with their grandsons... Man, that's quality time with the kids! Cute! Also... it's great humour! 😊 UK is King on their humour!

Shh.. wrestling isn't fake! But you're right about the old boys aging out, it's smart of Barney to get ahead of it, but lets hope Pete and Bas and the boys are here for years to come!

No one got the melonpan reference unless you’ve been to Japan

I assume the 4 of them probably collab on a lot of their songs. Get a little circle going, tossing around ideas. Sounds fun honestly. It’s disappointing that everyone’s just theorizing about who wrote what instead of just fully appreciating the music without drama distraction. Not saying this video in particular, but hop in any comments section and it’s all ghostwrite this and that. Probably they all 4 wrote it, and it slaps

👍👍👍👍👍👍

i think these two taught them the basics then Pete and bas turn it into their own style why i think there's a slight similarity

Conspiracy theory: with his recent health problems, Pete isn't going to be able to keep doing this much longer, so the kids are putting stuff out now to grab the listeners while they can.

I don’t get too into the whole music gossip rubbish just love listening to Pete and Baz and as soon as I heard that song I literally realise it straightaway and had to google this shit!!

Simpsons Springfield is Oregon.

Pete an bas have done live shows at most they might write for eachother but let's be honest if your granddads was rappers you'd follow there flows and plus Pete and bas have been around for years theses have just popped up

Dex’s voice is so much clearer than Bas’s. They may sound similar but Dex has no grit or raspiness he just has a deep voice like, almost like his grandfather had a deep voice or something 🤔

I don't see two old guys who haven't been raised on rap could take someone else's bars and deliver them in the pockets and the with the cadence that PandB do... and their references are specific. "Old school but I still bust shots I'm a Luger" Nobody but gun geeks and old heads know what a Luger is

I got the bag like “check out” “Check in” the room and “spread”out “Spreading” the news I’ve landed Knock at the door she’s “checking” the bed out

Surprised that the Swedish bar was legit 😅

I think it’s the other way around and Pete and Bas write for them

It's kind of funny watching people see this video and then state "Pete & Bas ghost writers" like they've cracked a code. Nine & Dex are credited on most Pete & Bas tracks (as 91 Shots and Handsome Dexter) and they're related to Pete & Bas (I mean, Nine is the spitting image of Bas, lol). It's a family thing, so it isn't as simple as saying they're just "ghost writers" and Pete & Bas made no secret of the fact they get help off their grand kids, but as a lifelong Londoner myself I'm pretty certain Pete & Bas write a lot of their own lyrics too as they include a lot of the slang and references from older generations that, I guess, might not be so detectable to those listening from outside the UK

Oh wow I mean it could be. Now that you're showing it. And honestly who cares it's entertaining as hell regardless. They should do one together.

You can’t see anything about the heat they sound the same if they’re related, I think Pete and battery is literally rewriting for them because there’s nowhere impossible. These guys are riding for them.

Honestly, I think that Pete and Bas write, but they have help from their grandkids; they even said as much.

This has been known and (to me at least) doesnt hurt their credibility or talent AT ALL

Pete and Bas did live shows. Definately their own voices.

Defo the writers, there’s a lot of same wording used in different tunes but it’s kool 😂

Simpsons Springfield is 100% Illinois :P

have you done norman pains sindhu sesh yet?

Everyone knew thier grandkids wrote thier stuff

its there grandkids ive heard

Sounds alot like Pete and Bass? 🤔🫢

Good bars boring voices. I'd really rather hear Pete & Bas do these verses - i don't care who wrote them. Also, Pete & Bas have geezer bars that no one under the age of 60 understands, so I don't think they're 100 ghost written.

"cali pack, i'm sparking it, while i run through twins like osama did" and cliff aint even catch it, jeez

I think that these guys are coming forward because of the old man's age and health. But mine is the producer for their musics

Been waiting for this, I knew you would hear it straight away... but you missed the Osama line

There kids helped Pete n bass lea4nits no secret in UK loo

The accents and where they're from are why they sound similar. It's the accent, not the voice. Bas & Pete's accents are different and so are Nine & Dex. I do not think at all that these two ARE Pete & Bas, at all. The conspiracy theory I've seen from reactors has actually killed how fire this song is since the whole time people just keep saying how this is Pete & Bass ghostwriters or that it's them without effects or whatever. Maybe they're ALL talented? It's not that far fetched. It could be that Nine & Dex helped them figure out their flow because Pete & Bas sound the same on almost every song with the same flow. So it's like they taught them one flow and now Pete & Bas write their own music with that one flow in mind. It's not that hard to write in this style, it's a simple kind of scheme. These bars go WAY harder than what Pete & Bas do for sure in terms of all the doubles and such. They might assist them but I don't think I'd say they're full on ghostwriters for them, much less them actually being them.

Unless this is Milli vanilli

Yeah……… I dunno now hahahaha first dude definitely comes off as BAs and second dude sounds like Pete. Not the vocal tones persay even though that’s kinda there too, but simply the way each of their flows and cadences match up near exactly how the old boys slide

To me it seems equally likely that there's a backgrounder doing this work for all 4 of them.

They are listed as producers on every track are they not ?

Its the accent

They could've told them how to spit it..

Haters can't see that they're a family band /s There are unknowns amongst the P&B detectives, and I doubt anyone without direct knowledge from an insider can claim certainty, but honestly, all the evidence I've seen and speculated on points to Pete and Bas delivering, on wax and live, with the power of modern music production affecting both. Pete and Bas get tired on stage? Nine and Dex adjust the volume of the backing track and deliver as background rappers. I hope they're not nearing retirement, but father time being undefeated, it would make sense for them to emerge at some point to continue production as a business decision.

How did you miss the Osama bar!?

It's not a giant leap they are related it's where they started enjoying rap.

Nine and Dex are the grandsons of Pete and bas and Pete and bas admitted they used their grandsons to help write to keep up with the modern day lingo but before they got old they use to write their own stuff so nine and Dex do write for them just to keep up with the modern day lingo

Sindu World is TOTAL FIRE.... You can retire Death Row, these boys got the future 'lyrical' bullets locked, loaded and ready!!!

I always thought Cliff was a little dumb so i thought he'd buy in to the "grandkids" narrative like a lot of people in the comments. A large portion of Pete and Bas's fanbase sound like children that are trying to justify that Santa Claus is in fact real. I'm with Cliff though. And i don't think there's any shared genetics either. Although yes, it's a narrative that can be pushed because there are some similarities in appearance between Dex and Bas, amplified by the identical voices/cadence.

Those kids do not have the vernacular as in Pete and Bas tracks. Sorry.❤ That's cute though

Bro they have said it at least 20x that their fam is writing for them, you did not discover anything new lol 😄

Honestly, I’m OK with it. If they help write the Pete and bas raps Or even if they wrote the whole thing… Those old men have got the best flow and delivery. In fact, I’ll go so far as to say that I prefer Pete and bas better

Sorry cliff but im the king of fortnite hahaha. Great reaction brother

This guy thinking he solved a mystery 😂

Pete&Bas have stated their grandsons help them write. I wouldn't be shocked if their grandsons did >90% of the writing and taught them to mimic their styles as well.