Waiting in an Automatic - Avoid Damage and What to do on your Driving Test 

And that's how most of the world drives anyway, and that's why manufacturers design transmissions to match this style of driving. For example, if you shift into neutral in some cars, the start stop feature may not work or something else. In other words, people's driving habits shape the design of cars and that's really how it should be used.

I believe we have semi automatics mines is I cery occasionally miss a manual.

It's very different in England because our roads are very small and crowded and you cant really drive more than 12 seconds without stopping for buses, pedestrians, mini roundabouts, lights etc. In Yankeeland, you can drive for hours without ever even hitting traffic lights etc. So it's more important to use the gears and things properly here or else you wear out your car much faster.

As a dual Brit Canadian, totally concur with your comments re US normal procedure. It's the same in Canada.

If the government keeps pushing this crazy 'net zero' rubbish, soon all cars will be electric/automatic and the manual gearbox will be assigned to the dustbin of history.

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NathanTiffanyBroome. Don't get too big-headed. It doesn't matter whether you passed the first time or not; it doesn't make you more qualified to drive.

@@redblade8160thanks for the unnecessary and unasked for advice, random stranger on the internet. I completely agree with you on one thing- it doesn’t matter at all if you pass first time. But you know what? I’m still happy that I did.

@@redblade8160calm down

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Auto stop-start was only devised my manufacturers to get round emissions levels so the best thing you could do is turn it off or even disable it completely. On some cars it's just a module that is connected to the battery via the power leads; you just need to unplug it. In traffic just hold on the footbrake if stopped at lights for a few seconds or use the parking brake if stopping for longer. Contrary to what the video says, leaving the car in drive with the parking brake on will not damage your car's engine or gearbox, that's only the case with very old autos.

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That’s stupid. Brake lights too bright?! Come on man.

@@JAMESWUERTELE I'm not getting into an argument, and neither am I stupid. Good driving practice is not to sit in traffic at night (or really any time at all) with the brake lights on. Some cars have very bright brake lights, others aren't too bad, but, whatever, it's not good practice, or considerate.

@@chrisholland4633 There's always one isn't there. I came on to post the exact point you've made and am in total agreement. The rear brake lights on Mercedes for example are very vivid and lit for minutes at a time i.e. at traffic lights are really uncomfortable. I came to the conclusion most people in automatics are plain lazy. But this of course is stupid 😞

that is not stupid he is correct sitting behind someone at night with brake lights on can be very dazzling more so with the newer cars that have LED. lights.

@@GAZZA55 You're right, everyone seems to do it. Just laziness and lack of awareness of other road users beside themselves.

Spot on about putting the car in park resulting in a harder impact; if it's not on the movement of the car will absorb some of the impact and could result in less severe injuries. At traffic lights, assuming the road is level I usually hold the car on the footbrake, therefore showing the brake lights, until the car behind me has stopped then put the car in neutral and leave the brake off.

Its not worth to damage your transmission, even if the chances are small

It's not possible to lock up a traditional automatic transmission, the torque converter is a fluid coupling.

@@edwardfletcher7790 'Locked up, is the term he's using for the trans to be somewhat jammed in park. On a steep hill if you put the trans in park and release the foot brake, the car will roll a little until the park pawl engages, the weight of the car is now against that pawl making it hard to pull the gear stick back out of park. By using the hand brake first, it minimises the chance of the shifter jamming. I spent many years rebuilding transmissions and this is one issue that I've had to educate people about a few times. On steep hills I usually angle and roll the front wheel onto the curb and then apply the brake and park especially when facing uphill as some hand brakes don't work so well backwards.

I always put the car in neutral, apply the handbrake, and then put the car into park.

@@mikejones-go8vzThat's what I'm been doing after watching on RU-vid. Before that, I always handbrake first then Park. 😄

As many CVT gearboxes have an electric powder clutch it is wise to use neutral when standing still for more than a few seconds, it is just like a manual clutch in not liking standing still in gear.

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I'd rather not make it a consistent habit. I only use it on hills. It's just an extra annoying and unnecessary step when parked on flat ground. On hills, I keep my foot on the brake, pull the handbrake, then put the car in park. There's no need whatsoever to take your foot off the brake when you're in neutral, just go straight through to park.

I'm a driving instructor. I tell my students that learning good craft is the priority, not passing the test. When they pass, I tell them that this is when the learning really starts.

Obsoletely, a fine example of Old School advice that is still very much VALID now as it always was.

Some advice I can give to learner drivers after 42 years of driving. Don't be an offensive driver, be an defensive driver. Be kind to other drivers and give way and you will most likely be as safe as you can. Watch out for folks, don't get distracted and remember that you are driving a hunk of metal that can take life and limb. Some of the highest death rates on UK roads are young boys between 17 - 19. A car is not a toy and it's not a Formula 1 racer. Be kind to other drivers, slow down ,don't be selfish and behave as the road only belongs to you! Share the few roads that we have left and we will all arrive alive.

@@user-ng1eo4rr8n True, but according to stats most of them are from stolen cars (joyriders who won't care about being flashed by a speed camera), or uninsured drivers so most of them won't have a licence or take a test anyway.

P (or setting 1st or reverse gear on a manual) just locks the gear, the parking brake also locks the rear wheels. Usually you should do both, especially when parking on an incline. The parking brake is usually an electronic operated brake that can be on or off. The hand brake is operated with the hand and can also be used to initiate drifting (hand brake turns) and to slow down the car in case the main brakes are not available (e.g. when you have the engine off and the vacuum is depleted) - just be careful, the braking action is limited.

On flat ground, I don't bother with the parking brake. On a hill, I absolutely do.

Congrats bro, which gen of WRX did you choose? I really wanted a first gen but they are starting to get expensive

I bought corolla s it's easy ^^ the car have a lot of help systeme it drives itselef

HSD is the best automatic you can get. Go for it. The only downside is that you are not allowed to tow anything. (but I believe that might have changed). I only opted for my Hyundai in the same price range because of that and also the fact that it had newer "avionics" (the competing Toyota model was old at that time and didn't have a radar and autobrake system)

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TBF, that only ever affects people with astigmatism. You should be wearing glasses that cancel astigmatism, or not drive in the first place.

@@nadebeef6529 I disagree, I do not have an astigmatism, but do find looking at the large bright brake lights that are on cars nowadays uncomfortable when it is raining and stopped at traffic lights. I have posted to this effect on this post elsewhere. A lot of drivers do not know it is illegal to have rear fog lights on in the rain. They must only be used in poor visibility due to fog, as their name suggests. This is because of the glare they cause to drivers in the rain, not because of any sight defects of other drivers. Another problem is drivers do not check that all their lights are working properly. Many times I see drivers with one headlight not working properly. This puts extra power to the other side and causes dazzling to on coming vehicles and/or they could be mistaken for a motorcycle by other road users creating a problem with judging the width of the offending vehicle.

On the contrary, the six-speed VW dual clutch automated manual has a wet clutch. Clutch particles enter the oil and then the mechatronic unit which can cause it to fail. So sometimes a wet clutch can cause more harm than good.

@@ConquerDriving That’s just one particular example of a poorly designed wet clutch system. One bad example isn’t representative of all of them. I had a 2012 Fiat 500 5 speed manual and the pressure plate fingers broke twice in 60,000 miles where the clutch wouldn’t release when pressing the clutch pedal. I drove 20,000 miles shifting without the clutch the second time it broke. If I based all manual transmissions on the flimsy Fiat 500 transmission, I’d have to say manual transmissions suck. But obviously one example isn’t representative of the whole.

There are dry and wet clutch systems available. Usually you know which one you have if you're the owner of the car. dry ones are a little bit more efficient and cheaper but more prone to wear and heat damage. In the end, the clutch quality also plays a huge factor. I never had problems with my DCT in my current hyundai (dry) and also not in my past Mercedes (wet) but my Toyota needed a new clutch after a few years (was MMT model, but manuals were equally affected since they had the same weak clutch - it was a known fault in the community).

@@svr5423 My current car is a 7 speed DCT wet clutch (Honda designed). It’s been very reliable, unlike the Ford Power Shift dry clutch DCT, which people have nicknamed the “PowerShit” since they keep self destructing. I’m sure wet clutches can have problems too, but I’ve only ever had issues with dry ones.

​@@ConquerDrivingif gearbox service done on time there a reliable box, plenty of examples out there 15+ years old still going strong with 200k miles

Soon auto will be the norm.

I have severe ADHD learnt to drive a manual. Millennials are just lazy and give up at the drop of a hat. Harden up boy because life is going kick you in the balls like a horse.

@@send2gl Automatic cars are already the norm.

@@redblade8160 *Not in the UK - in the USA only!*

@@alexnelson9512 More Autos are sold today in the UK...

Ha! Yes. I hate it when the reversing light comes on in front of me in traffic. Am I about to be hit by an idiot*, or is it someone driving an auto who doesn't appreciate what they're doing. *And there are idiots out there who would reverse into you and then wonder what happened...

I'm trying to work out why putting the car into neutral would isolate the battery charging. Surely the alternator runs independently of the transmission and should charge the battery all the time the engine is running, whether in park, neutral, drive or reverse. Or is there something that I am missing here? Why would Toyota design their car so putting it into neutral cuts the power from the alternator?

@@LG-cz6ls Much worse that brief flash of the reversing lights are the people who sit stationary in a queue with their brake lights dazzling the driver behind - especially at night. That's why I always go into neutral and hold the car on the handbrake if I anticipate I'lbe stopped for more than a couple of seconds.

No, it does not. There is no independent alternator for producing 12V dc in a Toyota Hybrid. There are two Moor Generators (MG1 & MG2), one being the traction motor, and the other either operates as a generator from the engine (when it runs), or the starter motor when required. They are variable frequency 3-phase ac ones. The high voltage dc connection to the traction battery is isolated in N mode (which is only there to comply with older mechanical transmission kit), and the engine can’t be run when N is selected. There is normally a constant feed at high voltage from either MG1 or MG2 to the 12V via a converter set when the power is switched on. Incidentally, the 12V battery does not start this engine at all, unlike a traditional car engine, and it is quite a small one by comparison. No separate starter or alternator at all.@@Mortimer50145

@@Mortimer50145 Brake lights on is irritating, yes. But it's just a brake light. It's not as if someone is driving around with their fog light on. Manual car, handbrake, neutral, sorted. Thinking some wazzock is about to reverse into you is worse.

I have a mid 1990’s rear wheel deive sedan with a standard torque converter auto gearbox. and indeed if the trans is left in drive while at stop lights plus foot on brake pedal then I feel the heat from the transmission tunnel.

My early 90s car has pretty noticeable vibration when I put it in drive and hold the brake, even though I had just replaced all engine mounts and dampers and engine is very smooth and no vibration when driving. When it is in drive and not going, it emitted the worst vibration. lol, as I had heard and read from many people with older cars, I think they weren't designed to be in drive when stopped for a long time, they were designed in the time that most people are still familiar with manual and will mostly put them in neutral at stop lights.

That’s perfect! These people that shift in and out of neutral and drive all the time wear out the first gear clutches in automatics.

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Agree, indeed the Highway Code states 'In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.'

And bear in mind that because the law hasn't caught up with technology - automatic handbrakes do not count as a handbrake, which means the brake lights must remain illuminated.

tse13012. Glare is only a problem at night.

@@redblade8160 Half of folks' lives are spent at night.

With a "normal" automatic (i.e one with a torque converter), there's no point in putting it in neutral. It simply creates another delay when moving off. But yes, "parking brake on, footbrake off when stationary" is what should happen for multiple reasons,

Try not and do that all the time. You will wear out the first gear clutch set, because it always causes an engagment from N to D. That’s why the torque converter takes up the slip while you wait. Just looking out for you. I do the same on my bikes and truck while sitting at a light (manual) just sit in neutral until it’s time to go, not in an automatic however.

When I was facing uphill, I put the handbrake on then selected neutral and came off the brake. The back would have raised and the front would have dipped as the car wants to roll back but the rear wheels are locked. But in drive with the handbrake on when I come off the brake the front raises and the back dips as the car wants to move forwards using the front wheels but the rear wheels are locked. I hope that clears it up. Thank you for watching.

Normal, if you shift in and out of neutral all the time, it’s going to toast the 1 st gear clutches, brakes are cheaper than trannies

Reverse is between Neutral and Park, not between Drive and Neutral.

@@urkerab Yes I'm familiar with the P-R-N-D-3-2-1 pattern of automatics. (Sidenote: The 3-2-1 might vary depending on the number of auto gears). When I wrote about shifting between Drive and Park, I simply left out mentioning the intermediate Neutral & Reverse for brevity. In the same way that if I was talking about shifting say from 3rd to 4th gear in a manual, I'd be leaving out the brief and temporary state of Neutral. Update: I see however that I was erroneous in stating the flicker of reversing lights when shifting from D to N. Obviously that wouldn't occur since no R is involved.

@@ibs5080 Indeed, this was what I was alluding to.

@@urkerab My apologies for making a bit of a hash of all that. I think my brain must have been in "Neutral" rather than "Drive" but hopefully I've "Reversed" all that now. Anyhow, well spotted!

Why would you put the park brake on? Just put it in park if you're tired of holding the brake pedal (you could also shut off the engine at this point). With your new car you probably have the brake hold feature, which holds the brakes for you until you press on the gas Park brake should be only for parking on a hill

@@demagab just something I was taught that I still do. New car is just a flick of a switch.

@@Xaid0nTT keep in mind that flicking that switch makes two electric motors turn hard enough to hold in the brake calipers and then again to release them.. it's not good for them and personally I don't even use it for parking unless I'm on a hill. I would rather use the brake hold function (if available) which just holds the brake by other means (it's designed for frequent use)

So you're the git who freaks me out with your reversing light before pulling off!

@@LG-cz6ls Normally not if people use Neutral, you have to go past reverse to get to Park though.

@@LG-cz6lsbetter than being left unable to see / with a migraine by having stared at brake lights for 5 minutes or more.

@@dungareesareforfools Why are you staring at brake lights? There are other things a driver can look at, and fixating on one thing is probably not safe.

@@dungareesareforfools And if you can't see, you should not be driving.

And in that car, just prodding the accelerator starts the movement forward at the same time as releasing the brake. In “parking brake”, it applies the rear brake pads, clamped on to the disc, whereas in “brake hold”, it’s the front end with light power on to the traction motor, so it’s live and ready to go when required. It's also supposed to prevent rolling backwards on a rising gradient. A brisk start from rest in the traffic - so don’t try too early, if a bit close to the one in front. Alright, it only crawls forward at walking pace if you just tap it, so if the worst happens one should be able to brake again and stop in time.

Stupid advice! All that neutral to drive shifting will cause 1st gear wear on that set of clutches. Don’t tell people to that crap.

Absolutely!

What our when driving manual? Have to hold down the brake pedal when standstill, so the issue remains. Can't just pull the parking brake every time you stop

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Most automatics for some reason have no real way around that - all of mine as per the manual say not to go in and out of parked more often than necessary (I'm guessing due to wear and tear) and not to use park/handbrake as a regular part of driving when waiting in a queue, etc.

I'm not sure whether LED rear lights are better or worse than three 21 W tungsten bulbs (left, centre high-level and right). Either way, at night it destroys my night vision for a while afterwards. I have nasty memories of being stuck in a traffic jam at night due to an accident, with the traffic very occasionally edging forward a few yards. I kept my eyes closed to avoid being dazzled, hoping that I'd still be able to see through my eyelids when the brake lights went out and I knew it was time to move forward a bit. After about 10 minutes of this, the driver of the car behind me, who was also dazzled by the brake lights of the car in front of me, got out and "persuaded" the driver to use his handbrake instead.

@@Mortimer50145 I've seen or heard a few people complain about it lately I'm guessing partly due to the increase in EVs on the road but many automatics and EVs (some premium models aside) aren't designed in a way where there is an equivalent of holding it on the handbrake on a manual and hence having the brake lights go out. Seems weird given the advice in the highway code but that is the way it is.