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Fireground audio from the five plus-alarm fire in Cartersburg, IN on 3/16/2022. Audio is not in real time. The audio is used under a Creative Commons license from Broadcastify.
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@DanburyDK
@DanburyDK 2 года назад
Amazing how everybody becomes an expert in the RU-vid comments.
@rosewetzel8284
@rosewetzel8284 2 года назад
Was this a 6th alarm fire then?
@silver_cd
@silver_cd 2 года назад
And I’d bet money none of these “experts” have ever even fought a fire in a million square foot building
@dubuque1
@dubuque1 2 года назад
@@silver_cd Yeah somewhere above a person was actually a firefighter at the scene, so I would only believe him, but even he may not have all the information.
@Yandelvillegas
@Yandelvillegas Год назад
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@mrstealurkill2002
@mrstealurkill2002 Год назад
I was at the Pittsboro Golf Course and saw the massive blaze from there. had the ash land in my front yard. crazy day for sure
@JohnpaulDejoria666
@JohnpaulDejoria666 2 года назад
The size of the building necessitated a 2nd alarm on arrival.
@davidlenczewski8433
@davidlenczewski8433 2 года назад
Having worked at a Walmart Distribution center for many years I am very familiar with the fire system and how it works. First you have to understand the fire suppression system has its limitations. It is designed to suppress an incipient stage fire. Most DCs have a wet sprinkler system which is supplied by a electric, diesel or both, fire pump which augments a municipal water mains pressure. There is usually a on site water tank which supplements this system with 200,000 gallons of water. The entire building is supplied off a closed loop water main which also supplies water to on site fire hydrants. When a sprinkler head is activated the fire pumps kick on and an alarm sounds on the fire panel. It will give the location of the riser that sprinkler head is activated. Security is usually sent to investigate this sprinkler head activation and determine if it's an actual fire, or a burst or damaged sprinkler head. This can take a few minutes. In the event off an actual fire a manual evacuation of the building is ordered. Associate accountability is up to individual managers and that's another issue given the size of the building. Listening to the first arriving units they experienced zero visibility in the fire area which is to be expected due to the ventilation system being shut off. This is an automated response to the fire alarm and sprinkler system being activated and it makes sense, you don't want to add more air to a working fire until you begin suppressing it. As the fire grows and more heat and smoke build up visibility becomes zero and you have to be able vent the heat and smoke out. In our DC the only way to override the ventilation system once it was in fire mode was with a manual key. Another issue is water supply. Once you have multiple sprinkler heads activated you are dumping thousands of gallons of water a minute inside that building, but because it's a closed loop system your fire hydrants on site are also fed by the same water main that is feeding the sprinkler system. Your fire apparatus is hooking up to hydrants with a very limited water supply to begin with. An outside water supply would need to be established right off the bat to supply water to on scene fire apparatus. Lack of knowledge of the building can also cause issues. So when the the pumps were shut down to increase water supply to fire apparatus if the fire wasn't completely extinguished it was easy for it to grow again given the huge fire load there.
@rchighfield1
@rchighfield1 2 года назад
Exactly, cavitation occurred when they tried to engage pumps because pulling from the hydrants. Should have waited before shutting down and had more than one line in the building. One more mistake was a building that size a second alarm should have gone out sooner. Too many mistakes.
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
@@rchighfield1 No need to call for 2nd alarm when your ops officer calls the fire under control before the working units arrive. We get so many on the initial and working that 2nd alarms are rare in this area.
@tamelailes8166
@tamelailes8166 2 года назад
@@CH-fk5tk It's better to have it coming to you and not need it, versus needing it and not have it coming.
@rchighfield1
@rchighfield1 2 года назад
@@CH-fk5tk When over a million square feet…. I agree the call for UC was the start of losing it.
@robertburdick2998
@robertburdick2998 2 года назад
Under Control was possibly premature, 2nd alarm definitely needed, we need to stay ahead of the fire especially in a building this large. Machoism has no place in playing “ I can put that fire out with fewer companies than you”. Get the extra stuff rolling, the amazing thing about radios is that companies can be turned back if not needed. These concepts are nothing new, read history of fires, training/ textbooks, and trade magazines. People have been sharing their experiences and recommended tactics. There is no need to reinvent firefighting on every run. Learn something new everyday.
@nicholasmakepeace8748
@nicholasmakepeace8748 2 года назад
I love the video
@donaldmorrison9940
@donaldmorrison9940 2 года назад
I’m not sure about the way this incident went down, but the guy in overall control was calm and collected throughout. Have to admit that it doesn’t sound good that everything gets switched off and opened up before the place burnt to the ground but there wasn’t any panic which is good to hear.
@chuckman231
@chuckman231 2 года назад
Charlie Foxtrot! The lost the building when they shut off the fire pumps too soon.
@kc0eks
@kc0eks Год назад
Sounds like the fire was running from them and they didn't realize til it was too late.
@JB91710
@JB91710 Год назад
When the fire is out and the building is destroyed, that is not the time to figure out how to extinguish it. Firefighting needs to be built into every structure type and the fire department has to know what needs to be done before they get there. Buildings like this need to have ventilation systems built into the walls with mechanical access to them from the exterior by the fire department so they can be opened when water is ready to be applied. Water should never be a problem at any fire if the officers and structure planners are Thinking ahead instead of waiting to React.
@funniedoug03
@funniedoug03 2 года назад
“Shut the fire pump off and isolate these risers, we’re under control.” The lie detector determined that was a lie…
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
16:08 for the mayday call
@troyn3905
@troyn3905 2 года назад
Fire on the second floor, 200-300 feet inside the warehouse and sufficient to activate the sprinkers. IOW, you may have a 2-story structure fire inside a bigger structure. Since the interior crews did not report re-ignition and active fire. They were likely in a compartment with sprinklers activated and did not see any other fire. Also, they correctly left someone at the fire pump to restart it if things went sideways. They turned the pumps back on, but that did not extinguish the fire. Why? The original fire may have extended through a void to the warehouse roof - metal deck roof fire or insulation. If that's the case, that would be above the the sprinklers and shutting down the pump was not the cause. Metal deck roof fire, depending on the design, can drip flaming rubber/plastic onto combustibles as it runs the roof. It is clearly too soon to declare - from news reports and radio traffic- that shutting down the pumps was the cause. Side note - ladder companies really should have TICs to evaluate roof conditions. They may have picked up a hot spot if the fire was running the roof that the interior crew could not see.
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
6:25 they ordered ALL doors opened. Fire was NOT under control. No one was walking the building with TICS and they turned pumps off. Fire was still burning inside walls and floors and they fed it and allowed it to spread.
@indianaoutdoors4379
@indianaoutdoors4379 2 года назад
What I know of this building. It has 3 or I believe 4 floors built inside of it. I know the inital building alarm was on the 2nd floor. It sounds like it had expanded into the 3rd if not the 4th floor when they called it under control and they were unaware of it. When they vented they did nothing but force feed it the oxygen it needed to burn through the roof and make the fire run. They may have gotten away sith limited cross ventilation across the first floor Dock Doors but opening all doors on that side and or not working with building staff to open the top exhaust vents may be the largest of the fatal moves in this fire. I also know this has been called the largest fire most of the departments in the area hve and likly ever will fight. I am sure there will be studying and training on this for years to come.
@dubuque1
@dubuque1 2 года назад
Similar to the police incident in california years ago where bank robbers were more heavily armed than responding police, I am betting this will become a training scenario for many larger departments in the future.
@John_Montefalco
@John_Montefalco Год назад
alarm - 0:00 Engine 142,71,83 Ladder 121,88 Battalion 120 Safety 80 Extra units - Medic 121, Ladder 84, Medic 122
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
The initial dispatch heard here in the audio is actually the 2nd alarm. 1st alarm isn’t heard on here
@michaelcannon3978
@michaelcannon3978 2 года назад
Incorrect. Command requested a second alarm around the 15:00 mark once fire was visible through the roof.
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
@@michaelcannon3978 I was on the 2nd alarm. The dispatch you hear at the very beginning of video is the 2nd box alarm, not the 1st box alarm or the working alarm. That’s the reason you don’t hear the first arriving units (E123,122,121,L121,BC120,etc) on the dispatch you hear at the beginning of the video. That’s also why the call you hear was “working building fire”, the initial dispatch is just “building fire”. The initial box alarm or the working alarm is not heard in the video.
@michaelcannon3978
@michaelcannon3978 2 года назад
@@CH-fk5tk Got it. Appreciate the clarification.
@Yandelvillegas
@Yandelvillegas Год назад
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@corywitham7420
@corywitham7420 2 года назад
This fire was in the city of Plainfield, IN
@FiregroundAudioArchive
@FiregroundAudioArchive 2 года назад
From what I've heard the warehouse was in Cartersburg/Avon, right near Plainfield, and Plainfield fire is the structural agency for that area.
@ads47
@ads47 2 года назад
@@FiregroundAudioArchive Its in Plainfield. Avon's jurisdiction is about a mile away. Cartersburg is no where close. Google is your friend.
@ATFDFF
@ATFDFF 2 года назад
@@FiregroundAudioArchive I very much appreciate you taking the time to edit and upload this footage….and this obviously does not diminish from that…but just as a point of reference that is not accurate. It is indeed fully a Plainfield address.
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
@@ads47 Avon address but Plainfield Fire/Police response area. 9590 AllPoints Pkwy, Avon, IN 46123 (copied from Google maps). And yes, Cartersburg and no where close to this.
@schmegle1
@schmegle1 2 года назад
Nice job shutting down the sprinklers without putting out the fire 👍👍
@robertburdick2998
@robertburdick2998 2 года назад
@@CH-fk5tk Sprinklers were checking the fire. Water only flows from fused open heads. Only deluge systems have open heads. You shut the sprinklers off more heads will fuse without discharging water and the fire outgrows the capacity of the sprinklers. At this point turning the sprinklers back on will have little effect on the fire and tax water supply ( 2 fire pumps cavitating). Sprinklers activated at the seat of the fire are like having a nozzle-man already in place, two running fire pumps are two engine companies on scene. Sprinklers should only be shut down when the fire is really under control and no visible extension. It may be inconvenient to get wet and have smoke pushing down but they were doing their job. Rack storage warehouses are not house fires. Anyone with a fireplace knows allowing air from under the fire ( open all bay doors) let’s more air in to feed the fire. These are all basic tenants of firefighting gleaned from decades of knowledge (Brannigan, Clark, Dunn etc.) This fire would be difficult for any fire department and is no criticism of the Plainfield FD. It would be wrong to not learn something from fires like this.
@skidude8989
@skidude8989 2 года назад
@@robertburdick2998 BRAVO !!! You said everything I was about to. Spot on.
@northernliving2387
@northernliving2387 2 года назад
Yes I want to know why the Fire Department turn off the fire pump? What was the reason? Someone made a bad decision..
@michaelcossey8474
@michaelcossey8474 2 года назад
​@UCjYGSeZLBxHWf5fNJQUDQPA The sprinkler heads in a 1.2 million sq. ft. building were NOT designed to all go off at the same time (imagine the fire pumps and water supply that would be necessary for that to happen). In a perfect world, the fire suppression system will keep the fire in check using the fewest number of sprinkler heads as possible.
@davemellinger1931
@davemellinger1931 2 года назад
@UCjYGSeZLBxHWf5fNJQUDQPA Sprinkler systems in those large buildings are in zones, the heads go off as the fusible links are melted and needed. A building of that size is not designed for all the heads to activate at once.
@willlock3644
@willlock3644 Год назад
I feel horrible for the IC. They truly felt like they were doing the right thing. This is one of the reasons that I teach an independent class firefighting operations in buildings with sprinklers and standpipes. We need everyone to be trained.
@Tigers9596
@Tigers9596 7 месяцев назад
elaborate. were they not doing the right thing?
@Bdf3604
@Bdf3604 2 года назад
I hate the computer generated dispatch. Good job by crews!
@patrickmcneilly4293
@patrickmcneilly4293 2 года назад
I would love to see the comparison on speed talking between a person and text to speech.
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
I love them. Sounds more professional, easier to understand and gets it out quicker.
@zachmeaux34
@zachmeaux34 2 года назад
Computer voice is much clearer than a typical dispatcher.
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 2 года назад
@@zachmeaux34 Not always...
@scottwheeler5125
@scottwheeler5125 2 года назад
KMG365
@BlueThunderboltsiren
@BlueThunderboltsiren Год назад
5:03 Spectralert advances.
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
6:25. Ordered ALL DOORS TO BE OPENED. That fed this fire and destroyed the building. It's that simple. Fire was NOT under control. It was in-between 2 and 3rd floors, and ran as soon as ALL THAT OXYGEN was introduced.
@anthonycatsoris7552
@anthonycatsoris7552 2 года назад
how many years are u ff
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
@@anthonycatsoris7552 20 volunteer. 2.5 full time and part time ff/first responder. Started in 1990. Ended 2006. PTSD from deployment to Iraq triggered me and I couldn't do it anymore. Broke my heart.
@MegaMantim
@MegaMantim 2 года назад
Makes sense...Don't discount Criminal act...Somebody could of shut a zone down...
@Yandelvillegas
@Yandelvillegas Год назад
@@anthonycatsoris7552 15
@John_Montefalco
@John_Montefalco Год назад
@@Bernie0481USMC thank you for your service
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
Sounds like an electrical issue in the walls or arson?
@leeshaver7825
@leeshaver7825 2 года назад
On scene nothing showing Building is charged with smoke we have a fire on the second floor Fire is under control shut down the risers they did that so they would have proper flow and proper pressure then they asked the pumps to be shut down and yes in buildings like that sprinklers are set up in zones what I don't understand is they said the fire was under control several times and said they were good the next thing you know they get a report the fire blowing through the roof now I wasn't there but I'm still wondering what the hell happened how did it go from being under control we're good to fire through the roof and we have fire blowing over the top of us that's what I don't understand I wasn't there I don't know what the circumstances were or why it took off on them like that but just listening to the radio traffic it makes you wonder what happened for the fire to take off like that in a normal structure I would say that it was running the attic and there may have been an attic in that second-story area but the rest of the warehouse doesn't have an attic It would be interesting to read the fire report when it is done after the investigation to see what happened and why it took off like that
@stevepreston6450
@stevepreston6450 2 года назад
You bring up dome good points. I'm sure that the interior officer who stated that "the fire's under control" the first time will be ribbed about that for a VERY LONG TIME. It would be interesting to hear the critique about the fire. I'll leave it at that. I learned long ago that you don't cast judgement until you hear the stories from the people that were there. Otherwise, you're a Monday morning quarterback [NOT talking about you Lee]. I would definitely have some questions myself.
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
8 minutes from the order to open ALL DOORS to fire coming through roof. They screwed the pooch big time by 1) turning off pumps 2) opening doors, feeding fire and allowing it to run, untouched by water. Terminate command.
@paulgoodrich9926
@paulgoodrich9926 Год назад
Get Mike Pruitt there he knows all why bargersville hired him is anybody guess
@ameyperkins3566
@ameyperkins3566 2 года назад
I feel as if the building could have been saved it the Sprinkler System wasn’t turned off. People would have a place to come back to. Now almost 3000 people will be displaced. It’s just so sad.
@andrewswan6859
@andrewswan6859 2 года назад
How meany alarms did this go to
@orangeviper138
@orangeviper138 2 года назад
I believe a 5th alarm.
@andrewswan6859
@andrewswan6859 2 года назад
@@orangeviper138 ok thank you so much
@goodmeteorologicalmorning4754
@goodmeteorologicalmorning4754 2 года назад
I thought 6 but maybe it’s only 5
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 2 года назад
The new terminology here in California is a "Greater Alarm Fire," which is 5 alarms or more with mutual aid requested. I was surprised to hear "nothing showing" on arrival. Goes to show you never know what's going on, until you do.
@Kountry1963
@Kountry1963 2 года назад
5 alarm...
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
6:25 and prior, shut down risers and OPEN ALL DOORS. 14:00- fire through roof, TURN PUMPS BACK ON. THEY F**KED UP BIG TIME. THAT simple. This is Super Sofa Fire all over again.
@michaelcossey8474
@michaelcossey8474 2 года назад
The Super Sofa Store had sprinklers that were shut down by the fire department?
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 года назад
@@michaelcossey8474 no meant the opening of windows/doors, to vent beside fire was under control.
@jeffvanschoonhoven5171
@jeffvanschoonhoven5171 Год назад
Super Sofa Store is not a good comparison . For 1 Charleston was using 2 1/2 hose for supply not LDH. And it cost them 9 brothers. IC screwed up on this one for sure. Thankfully there were no LODD's. A building that size... There should have been a pre operation plan in place and used. Had it been there would have not been a premature "under control" call been made.
@rchighfield1
@rchighfield1 2 года назад
Might need to go back to Fireman school.
@CH-fk5tk
@CH-fk5tk 2 года назад
Nothing better than RU-vid firefighters 🤦🏼‍♂️
@rchighfield1
@rchighfield1 2 года назад
@@CH-fk5tk stating the obvious does require comprehensive skills to understand what someone is saying.
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 2 года назад
You've clearly never been, because these are FIREFIGHTERS, not "fireman"
@rchighfield1
@rchighfield1 2 года назад
@@ffjsb hate to break it to you but there’s not a fireman school! 😂
@ihateidiots
@ihateidiots 2 года назад
@@rchighfield1 You ain’t special, boomer
@mixtaperadio
@mixtaperadio 2 года назад
lol at the interior attack team saying fire u/c and open up the bay doors for vent 7:30 12:10 interior attack team again confirms fire is u/c that is a big oops 🤣🤣🤣
@brucegordon4992
@brucegordon4992 2 года назад
Sounds to me that it was 30 minutes plus before the second alarm was ordered. And maybe shutting off the risers and pump was premature?
@nathanclark761
@nathanclark761 2 года назад
You also have to realize it isn’t in real time so it’s more spread out then what you actually said
@andrewswan6859
@andrewswan6859 2 года назад
Great job this fire was so bad great job by all first responders
@skidude8989
@skidude8989 2 года назад
Yeah, especially when they shut off the sprinkler system and declared the fire under control. How did that work out. They BLEW IT big time. I could not believe what I was listening to.
@Duality306
@Duality306 2 года назад
@@skidude8989 ....How many years did you serve as a Firefighter?
@williamheber2118
@williamheber2118 2 года назад
Hmmmm?
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