Walther Rotex RM8 vs Air Arms s200 - which rifle is better? 

Ste, thank you for taking the time to comment on the video. Yes, the RM8 is a brilliant gun, for such an excellent price! The build quality is outrageously good and the only problem is that the magazine only holds 8 pellets! This is only a minor gripe... Still, very pleased to hear that you like the gun so much. Safe and happy shooting!

I Got mine in March. love it. Love it. Love it. My Gammo Phox was my favourite until I unleashed the beast, RM8. It's got to be one of the best guns at that price range. I watched you on youtube and fell in love with the look of it. best buy this YEAR. (so far, don't tell the wife.)

Perhaps your RM8 is faulty? Regardless, thanks for the message!

@@southwestshooters no its fully functional thankyou its simple the my regulated airarms is a far superior gun with a superior cz barrel

@@falkirk8413 fantastic. It's great you have guns you enjoy. That is what this is all about.... Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video.

Martin, thank you for your suggestions. First of all, does your RM8 have a moderator? I think it's very loud indeed! I will absolutely take your suggestion about the pellets on board. However keeping the pellet the same is part of keeping the variables the same...my comments about the overall fit and feel of the gun still hold true. But thank you for offering such a great suggestion. Take care.

@@southwestshooters Chris, I'm using the Hogan Decimeater and it is very quiet. Keep up the good content.

@@southwestshooters it can’t be a fair test when quite literally every gun likes different pellets, it really should of been shot (the S200) with its preferred pellets. You could get 2 Identical guns to test and one could literally hate the pellet that works best with the other. In the same breath you could try using the RM8 with the s200’s preferred pellet just to show the difference

@@DRob-zj1ld you are totally missing the point here. Introducing a different pellets type IS introducing another variable. This only nerds to be viewed as a test, with this pellet type. Agreed, I could have made this clearer, but your suggestion makes things less fair. In this test anyway.

@@southwestshooters I don’t think I am missing the point, your title says ‘which is best’ how can that be determined when your not using one guns preferred pellet? Sure I get where your coming from but for a real test on comparison as far as grouping goes you need to use the best performing pellet per barrel. This wasn’t an ammo test it was a rifle test all air guns are pellet fussy. Only trying to help with your content here, if you want the tests to be fair and viewed as such.....

Thank you David - pleased that you enjoyed this review and that you like your gun too!

45 meters! Dang! You must be one hell of a shot. I'm pleased to hear that you are getting on so well with your RM8! They are fantastic guns... Such amazing quality for a vert reasonable price! Take care!

I'd get it checked if I were you. Soulds like the 30j version to me with the shot count you are getting... 😳

@@jimcarter2590 excellent advice. Cliff at Oke Gun (details in the description) would be a good place to start!

@@jimcarter2590 I agree, I'm calling the RFD that sold it to me this week.

@@mikeo9170 Well, was it a FAC version you got?

What would you suggest?

Hi there, three pellets tend to work very well. JSB Exact 8.44 grain, Air Arms Field 8.44 grain and Webley Accupell 7.9 grain all print between 5/8" and 3/8" in my S200 at 40yds. As a sidenote, I am also liking your Walther, I also have an LGU springer which is very good so I do know that the Walther barrels are excellent. I have no doubts about the RM8's accuracy, it seems to like those pellets in your vid. Cheers Steve

@@0113mountainman thank you for taking the time to let me know! It was actually "eating" jsb 8.44 for this test, as I wanted to keep it the same. But again, there are variations between the same model gun. I still stand by my appraisal... Even if the s200 group was as good as the RM8, I'd still prefer the RM8.

Fantastic suggestion! Thank you!

You are very welcome Lesley. My pleasure. See, the opposite can happen too.... I'm a big lad and the s200 simply does not work for me. But the rm8 feels better. Horses for courses. Or, guns for nuns? Rifles for trifles? Not that I'm accusing you of being a nun, or a trifle, but it is very late. Safe and happy shooting.

@@southwestshooters well there you go, just busy watching you playing the 1_7game with your mate and the hw good laugh

@@lesleyhoworth9598 yeah. He smashed me on that one.

Hywel, pease check out our latest video. We address some of the critiques. Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video. Take care.

These are excellent points. However the s200 is now gone and won't be back for a while.

@@southwestshooters Sorry but that test was unfair to the little 200. Your other vid, the same s200 with its fault's compared with a top price gun costing over 4 times as much, had much the same grouping. For the money the faulty 200 is a budget gun par excellence in my book ( imagine what a clean well looked after s200 could do ) wish I lived in your world where I had £2000 to spend on a gun. Sorry I live in the real world. Otherwise I liked your vid shame it was biased.

Forgot to say I have a mint mk 2 and it's a fantastic little gun.

@@deliboy1864 👌

I would agree with Chris, the S200 in my arsenal of rifles is the most accurate, and believe it or not I have some very expensive ones... That little S200 with the right pellet is a deadly sniper. Especially when one puts a regulator, a tuned moderator, trigger work, Altaros sells upgrades for the S200. I've owned four of them and am seriously blown out by the hunting and pesting I was able to do! Even in the deserts of California where the jackrabbits are enormous, The S200's in 1.77 caliber did exceptionally well!!! Even at long distances of 93 yards, the 14.30 fpe S200's did great! Light to carry around and super duper accurate. Now if it doesn't feel well when you shouldered it, that is totally understandable. But oddly enough I have my friends whom are way bigger than me and they love the darn thing!! And swore that they would buy one!

It’s an opinion, it’s always going to be subjective.

Dear Captainboing, thank you for taking the time to comment. I agree with you, to an extent. This gun isn't actually mine, it's Ians and I don't use it all the time. But I agree it's an awesome gun. I do prefer my daystate guns, but to be honest this is a feel thing. It's very hard to fault the RM8. I would honestly suggest checking out the daystate guns if you have access to them.... But then again, they might not offer anything that you currently don't have! Regardless, you clearly have a gun you like, which is awesome. Just out of interest, what other guns are you comparing it with?

@@southwestshooters I have to stay at the budget end of things purely down to finances. I have 5 in all: - Walther Rotex RM8 .177 - my daily driver. very accurate, totally trusted. Loves JSB Exact 453 and Hades. When vermin clearing, I get a kill per pellet, just about. - Gamo Phox .22 - nice gun, feels quite raw but great ratter. Tends to lose zero between sessions even with Bisley mounts (!) which is probably down to the scope. Really likes H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes - The obligatory CPoS Break-barrel .22 which has had some work done so it can actually produce a grouping - OK for close in but hard work over 20m. OK for barn-storming ferals coz that is only ever at roof height. - Beretta CX4 semi (Umarex) .177 - great fun for competition plinking with mates but only 8ft/lb and not much cop over 25m. - BSA R10 .177 - I don't rate it... BSA seem to be hyped a lot more than they deserve, to me anyway.

It looks like you have some wonderful guns! So, admittedly I'm a daystate fan, but you will notice that in some of my other videos I compare "affordable" guns to these ones....its about the groups that you get. Nothing more. I seriously would not bother looking to get anything else for the time being if your RM8 does the job. It doesn't make any sense! However, new guns are fun, have you used a hw100? These are fantastic guns..... But I do know what you mean, sometimes you want something new and different.

@@southwestshooters yes weirharch are definitely on my list if the RM8 stops delivering, but you are right. Beyond just wanting to, change makes no sense.

You appear to be in the Soviet Union. I'm not sure what the legislation is where you are.... But I think 80 shots would easily be obtained. Take care!

OK thanks and btw I'm not from Russia I'm from Bulgaria.

@@kristiyanvasilios5789 awesome! Apologies for the confusion from me.

@@southwestshooters no worries mate thanks for the info.

Thank you Alan. That is a lovely message. I am pleased to hear that you liked this little review/comparison video and that you considered my thoughts fair. We are striving for this very perspective. Take care!

Not all guns like the same pellet and Chris did not do the guns justice with the pellet choice.

Make it work, they're botj good guns. I think the rm8 is better for me, others might not.

I do a similar thing in my r10 vs rm8 video.

Good choice! Please let me know what your groups are like with those pellets!

The only thing I wish they did was make the magazine shot size bigger.... But yes, they are super guns.

Yeah I bet it does...🤔😂😂😂

Ian, feel free to upload any evidence of your shooting to prove how much rubbish I am talking.

Good man. You have excellent taste.

@@southwestshooters lol. No i just can't afford a couple of grand for the really pretty stuff. And I'm no way near enough of a good shot to get the benefit of them

I think in retrospect there was potentially something wrong with the S200. However, I aim to replicate this test in the future.

It might do!

Thank you for your support! There will be more!

I guess there always will be variables that are simply too complex to negate. I could put the same scope on each gun, but that would require tuning each gun to its scope and I am not sure if that it a worthwhile idea. They are, after all, quality scopes on both guns. I guess it simply comes down to me as a shooter? I am more than happy to admit the results may have been different if the Professor was in this video....but there will be more to come. Thank you for your support!

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Good choice! Safe and happy shooting.

Bert. You'd perhaps best consider my use of the word as a subjective personal evaluation of my liking of the RM8 over that of the S200. But as you asked.... The RM8 is clearly more accurate from this test. You get way more shots per fill and I like the feel of the gun. Therefore, it is better.

You won't regret it.

Not really sure! Yep. An honest, as I can make it, review.

Please elaborate.

Walther lothar barrel the best barrels in the world and that’s it

@@johngriffiths3309 if you are suggesting you can get better groping shooting off hand than I can using a rest, then please upload some evidence.

Infact if you don’t get a grouping like that from prone or with no rest just seated using a table to rest your elbows on I would be very surprised ...

@@johngriffiths3309 I see. Yes. I actually agree with you.

Thank you for your input Steve. I disagree with you on the better handling aspects on the s200 - but this is simply a personal opinion. I also think that this is why I wasn't as accurate with it either, it doesn't fit my frame well enough for me to be comfortable....But thanks for your comment, it is very interesting to get the thoughts of other people.

@@southwestshooters the airarms 510 lighthunter is better than them both. That is a lovely rifle! And lazer acurate.. i am picking the rm8 compact up next month. So i will see for my self wich is the better compact hunting gun.

@@stevejohnson1797 So which is the better?

@@deltanovember1672 i wouldnt have any of them, i would put a bit more towards a s410 superlight hunter. Much better gun..

These are excellent points. I think the first point of call will be having a go with the tray and seeing what happens? I still think there could be some ergonomic issues given my frame, but I will continue. If it does improve things I will make another video. Thank you for your support Andy!

The mk 9 lancet reg from Rob Lane is one of the best regulators for a S200. Speaking from hands on experience and missing wallet contents (don't ask learning is never cheap) I should know.I purchased and got rid of altaros internal reg and a huma just didn't suit the gun but where not faulty.My custom S200 is my keeper gun iv done, Rob Lane Reg Rowan bolt handle Rowan Trigger blade Rowan barrel/cylinder band swap from plastic Rat Works barrel work re crown,threaded to 1/2"unf and clean. 10 shot mag conversion plus 2 custom mags,bolt re work ie polish and counter sink detent ball location and align mag housing. Front quick fill and pressure guage fitted. QD swivels and leather sling. Hawke SF scope in high reach forward mounts as barrel mount removed.Mine loves JSB Hades in .22

Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video. To be fair, any gun should group like that at 20 meters.

Thank you!

Thank you for the comment! Yes. The RM8 is a brilliant gun. I love it and am jealous of Ian. I'm not sure how angry this video will make people, but everyone is welcome to comment as they see fit and ask questions. I'm not too familiar with the group of people you mentioned, but they are encouraged to talk to me. Thank you for your support.

Big Willy, you nailed it bro. 😂

Yes!

Great suggestion.

I'm not too sure about that. But if they are royalty to you, then that's all that matters.

I have owned the s400. I believe the rm8 is a better option.... But I haven't had access to both at the same time.

@@southwestshooters it would be a nice comparision if You had both. Your Walther is modified in some way or stright from the box?

@@pilarp8808 Yes, I agree, it would be a nice comparison. The RM8 is totally stock, nothing has happened to it, it hasn't even had the barrel cleaned!

@@southwestshooters so if it stock RM8 have great accuracy👍 Subscribe Your channel

@@pilarp8808 thank you! Take care.

Good choice!

I agree. I have taken off the multishot kit and the single shot tray has been installed - I will see if this affects anything. I will also experiment with more pellets. Thank you for your comment!

Okay.