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I like that they showed Vision wasn't created with Chaos Magic but with what the mind stone left in her when it came into contact with her years ago. That seems to be more than a coincidence to me and I wonder if it had anything to do with Vision and her's affinity towards one another and if that will be explored later on? Is the mind stone sentient? Is Vision's body just a host for it? He seems to be more than just programming.
Kevin Feige stated WandaVision ties into Spiderman 3 No Way Home and Doctor Strange The Multiverse of Madness - It’s going to be like one big story arch.
agatha is a joy even though she isn't 'good' she's just fun to watch so you can definitely like her that's how i felt about cersei in game of thrones hat her actions but love her as a character lol
We found out the real bad guys, and why all of these terrible things have befallen Wanda. The death of her parents? The death of her brother, and Vision? All of this is the result of the evil Disney Corporation's vendetta. They are punishing Wanda and her entire family because they earned a living selling bootleg DVD's out of a suitcase. Disney takes piracy VERY seriously.
The moment you realize that Vision didn’t buy Wanda an empty lot but in the five years of the snap it was demolished at some point so when she goes there she doesn’t find the cute mid-century suburban home of her sitcom dreams, she just finds more nothing.
It's even worse than that. You can see building materials and tarps. The home wasn't demolished. The foundation was laid, but thanks to Thanos, it was never finished.
This is honestly the most heartbreaking episode of a superhero tv show since the season 1 finale of The Flash. As a man who lost both his mom and then his home within a month of each other I know exactly the pain she feels. An impossibly overwhelming feeling of loss, exhaustion, and isolation that feels like you’re heart has become a black hole, pulling in all of the light and hope inside of you until you feel endless nothingness. Wanda Maximoff has now become the most sympathetic character in the entire MCU for me.
You are so right... I felt very identified with her. I know exactly that feeling of loneliness and sadness, because I also lost my family. I still have moments where it hits again, but I think I'm better now. I hope. Wanda has now become my favorite character definitely :)
Yes!! I actually kind of fell in love with Wanda when they showed her in the Winter Soldier post credits scene and then when she showed up in AoU, I just grew more fond of her. As the new movies started getting released, I faced huge losses in my life and watching the movies and seeing someone face loss and grief like I did just made me identify with her now. As the time has passed and I've been able to confront the grief, Wandavision came at such a perfect time and in some way has helped me understand this feeling even more and face the fear instead of living in the perfect world I wanted to create. This show is definitely my favorite Marvel produced thing I have ever seen and I'm so amazed at the way they were able to portray loss and how it affects people from every walk of life.
I think we saw Wanda's primary emotion post snap in End Game. She was angry AF and wanted revenge. In this series we see her grief and emotional/psychological trauma.
And being the closes to kill Thanos, the exchange: Thanos: I don't even know who you are Wanda: You will Is everything i need to understand what was in her head at that moment, pure rage.
That was not the tesseract, that was Loki's scepter in which the Mind Stone was all along. The tesseract was a blue cube. The fact that the scepter had a blue gem "around" the yellow mind stone with the same color of the tesseract is what causes all this confusion, but it had not to do with the space stone, it was always the mind stone, that's why Loki was capable of mind control people that he touched with the scepter.
The Mind Stone infused Wanda with it's energy, amplifying her natural ability to use magic by 1,000,000 times, if that hadn't happen, her ability would of faded away without formal training and instruction in magic from someone. The Mind Stone didn't "give Wanda powers" it added to it and massively boosted her latent talent for sorcery/magic
I’ve never looked at Wanda as a key Avenger before or cared as much for her story. Being a guy, I could relate more emotionally to Steve Rogers or Tony Stark. But now.. seeing her go through the things she has gone through.. the suffering, the sadness, the denial, the cluelessness, the anger, the bargaining, the realisation, the acceptance.. this is a human being experiencing a whole plethora of emotions that comes from undergoing trauma and grief. Now, I’ve loved MCU movies because there's always an emotional story behind the characters they choose to thresh out and leaves the audience to find the commonality with their own stories.. and with Wanda, migod.. I’ve experienced the same myself. In my journey to get over my trauma and grief, I’ve affected and even hurt others along the way, intentionally or unintentionally, something that I am still coming to terms with and making amends for even until now.. and I get, I guess you would call it “judged”.. by people based on what they relate or are opposed to.. the simplest analogy would probably be: if you see someone drowning, and holding on dear life to responders who in turn get dragged into the water and are also in danger of drowning themselves, would you say the person drowning is a person who needs to be scorned (for clinging onto the people he/she manages to grab on to) or a person who needs help? .. I would ask myself: am I a bad person for reacting this way? In a similar sense, is Wanda a bad character, now seeing that she has been exposed to this trauma over and over and over again? Anyways, whether Wanda ends up still a hero, or becoming a villain, or someone in-between ... is another story entirely.. for me personally, despite her being someone who has super powers, at the end of the day she is just another person like any one of us, with all her ups and downs. For now we get to see a Marvel character’s story of grief on full display here.. and despite whatever few gripes in the storyline (nothing’s perfect after all), I am calling this mini series for what it is: a masterpiece in story telling :)
I like Agatha more than Wanda. Sure, Agatha killed a dog, but it wasn't her that took several thousand hostages, enslaved them, and then systematically tortured them over the course of several weeks. Same goes for the "good guys"... Darcy, Monica, and Jimmy committed a brutal assault on two federal officers, then trespassed in a high security facility that they'd been ordered to leave, then illegally accessed (hacked) a secure agency computer server. Seems like they should be facing some rather lengthy prison sentences.
I think it was actually pretty good casting. The script called for an Americanized, sitcom-funny version of Pietro and that's basically what Evan Peters' "Peter Maximoff' was.
I loved it for the fact that it was a slap in the face for the really hardcore fans who were all up in people’s faces saying Peter Maximoff is the superior Quicksilver and ATJ’s Pietro can stay dead.😆 Don’t get me wrong, I like both versions in their own respective movies, and yes we all tend to hype up our faves, but some people were being too shove-it-in-your-throat about it. Then the reveal happened and suddenly crickets. Lmao
@@senhowler that's not the problem people had with it. People were upset that it lead to nothing. It was too meta even for fans. I wasn't that upset but I was a little disappointed tbh
I liked it both because it wouldn't have worked if they'd cast literally anybody else if the audience weren't going "WAIT is that the OTHER quicksilver?", and also because of the dick punch to the fan theorists.
@@mirotrevino9662 People shouldn't get their hopes up based on meta information about other media. Nothing in the series itself gave any indication that he could be imported from another universe.
"Did they create a doctored video of her going and stealing him?" If you go back and check the episode when Hayward shows the video to them, all he shows is her flying down to Vision's body. He *tells* everyone that she then stole the body, but that's never shown in the video.
He definitely had a reason to make everyone think Wanda was bad. He had no idea to start with that Hex Vision couldn’t survive outside. He wanted to try and take control of him. And blaming Wanda for either creating him or bringing him online means he doesn’t get punished for breaking the Sokovia accords by having an AI “weapon”
Welcome to the wonderful world of video editing. You can splice anything together to make it look as you want it to. And Hayward had a huge motive to do what he did.
@@bena4563 well he thought that there was another vision online, like he said if they thought that once wanda was gone that they just took the one she "illegally brought back to life" he wouldn't lose his job. The reason he got arrested is because its stated in the sokovian accords that what he was doing with "white vision" was illegal (he also tried to shoot and run over 2 children, but thats besides the point)
This, for people who didn't manage to catch on sooner, is the episode where everyone is shown that Wanda literally suffered a full psychotic break in that moment where she saw the note from Vision, written on the deed he bought for them together. She not only completely lost her capacity to distinguish reality from her delusions, but her power, fueled by her grief and those delusions, generated a bubble reality where it WASN'T simply a fantasy anymore. . And every episode has been about her slowly coming to grips with her disorder and the pain that created it. That's why all the Townsfolk are suffering along with her. Her entire world is constructed of pain and loss. It was her attempt to push all of it out and away from her, like a shell to protect the fantasy she wanted to make real. She gets to be happy in her ignorance, and everyone else has to live within her excised pain.
The moment at the house Vis bought for them. So close to her real sitcom ideal life broke her after seeing Vision in piece and not able to feel anything to hold onto. Great work by Elizabeth Olsen.
The scene with Vision's body in the SWORD base was clearly an act. He's had Vision for five years at that point, and three while he was in charge. He was just using it to try to bait Wanda into stealing the body or resurrecting him right there.
Exactly, & when he realized she couldn't, or wouldn't, he made her out the villain, so that he could be justified in launching a missile at her, which he knew she would render inactive, thus giving him a sample of her power to use to reactivate Vision's body.
Me: "Is nice to see a reaction without "oh is this Mephisto?" or knowing about Agatha from day 1, so less overobsessing over just this ONE thing" Steven: "But the Dusting!" Nikki: "Forget about the dusting" Me: "You know... I'll take this over the Mephisto stuff any day" (In serious though? Great reactions you two, it has been fun and refreshing seeing your takes :D)
haha 1st episode Steven was like wtf is this crap? and now he's in love haha I knew it would happen...once this show gets moving and putting pieces together it is damn good!!!!
@@richierich7229 I think he was an omega level mutant, but the celestials classed him above that. I don't think he was a magic user. I could be wrong though. Also, there is supposed to be a marvel TV series of Secret Invasion which he should be in, hopefully.
The character development that Wanda got is the reason I am super freaking excited to see what sort of development we're going to get with Sam and Bucky.
I don’t think there would be much to her undusting scene. She’d come back, Vision’s body would be gone, Black Panther, Bucky, Groot and a bunch of others would be there, and then Dr. Strange would get there and bring them all to the battlefield.
@@NikkiStevenReact I have a feeling we might see a flashback in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, because both Bucky and Sam were dusted not far from Wanda
He sad Vision doesn’t belong to her but he doesn’t belong to S.W.O.R.D either. You could argue that he belongs to Wakanda cause Ultron stole there Vibranium but I think since he is sentient he is his own Person
@@scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093 true they dont know who really is the chaos magic which even capable of creating new souls and new body even resurrected many avengers at past time which it was so OP and they said she cant which is actually the resurrection is just a coffee for her breakfast atmorning
I’ve watched so many people react, and have been waiting for y’all! This is my favorite episode. So beautiful, and so heartbreaking. Elizabeth Olsen deserves ALL the awards this show can give her!!! Same goes for Paul Bettany and Kathryn Hahn! I don’t know how many times I’ve watched this by myself, and watching along with reactors.. I’m still crying/nose running like it’s the first time I’m watching. Emotions on overdrive. Wanda’s, “I can’t feel you” mirroring Vision’s, “It’s alright. You could never hurt me. I just feel you” from Infinity War sets me over the edge every single time!
I think it's safe to say that Wanda hasn't been truly happy since those moments just before the bomb fell. And that she didn't mean to hurt anyone but she just wanted to be happy again - no bad memories, no pain, just to be happy in a simple, safe way surrounded by people she loved and who loved her.
"It was Agatha all along" only meant Agnes was never really real. Agatha was pretending the whole time. As for Wanda stealing Vision's body, you never saw it. Wanda broke the window, floated down, then the cameras fzzted out.
This show has the most amazing and heartfelt writing. Vison's line, "What is grief but love, perservering?" has become one of my favorite lines from any show, ever!
The Dick Van Dyke show is awesome. Besides him, it was Mary Tyler Moore and Carl Reiner was the producer as well as acted in the show. Also notice the red light on the missile was the same as the red light on the toaster in the Stark Toaster commerical.
Such a great show, and so many nods to what will happen in later episodes. I love that in ep 5 opening credits Agatha puts herself in the cast list (standing behind and between Tommy and Billy), and the end of ep8 same position as Agatha is choking out Tommy and Billy in the street!
I’m not ashamed to admit i cried 5 times in this episode, this episode was for sure the most hard to watch it really shows you Wanda’s been through hell and back Props to Marvel they absolutely destroyed me in this episode 💔
It's been so much fun re-living the WandaVision experience with you guys and seeing your reactions. The excitement and expectations building up from episode to episode, it's been one helluva ride, hasn't it? Looking forward to your finale reaction.
26:24 I absolutely agree. I also found this to be the best episode (even after the grand finale), because this one was really unexpectedly intense. Damn, I ran out of tissues like three times during their journey through Wanda's past. I thought this was gonna be just some kind of a build-up for the finale, but holy crap... it did deliver!
That "Ohhhh" moment when they open the suitcase full of sitcoms. That and the "Love persevering" line are probably two of the best moments in the whole show. They did something similar in Captain Marvel when that jet engine blew up and suddenly Carol's backstory made so much sense. More origin stories should be like that.
I love watching reactors who see movies and TV shows in the same light I do, when a movie or show makes you feel something, and you react to it it is to me one of the greatest things ever, please keep it up.
I feel Nikki on this. Long time since we got a villian this charming as Loki or memorable as Killmonger. Kathryn Hahn KILLED it. Any supervillain who makes up their own theme song is a legend.
The new looming evil is Disney. Everything bad that has ever happened to Wanda is the result of the evil Disney Corporation's vendetta. They are punishing the entire Maximoff family because they earned a living selling bootleg DVD's out of a suitcase. Disney takes piracy VERY seriously.
Nikki: "Unless she kills the bunny, then we can't be friends.." Steven: "She killed the dog," Nikki: *Makes a face** Choking kids on leashes hmmm? That's one thing that everyone including myself was confused about was the Scepter having a Blue Stone although the true MIND STONE/GEM's Color was Yellow, as was presented here and of course embedded on Vision in movies. The Tesseract, or the true Blue Stone, was the SPACE STONE/GEM. It was used to teleport Loki and Thor and also Red Skull. It's strange that no matter what the origin powers of each Stone/Gem, the end effect on humans are amplification or manipulation. Can any Stone have exponentially increased Wanda's powers? Did it specifically give her Chaos Magic or did she have unknown control of it already and the Stone released it? Why when the Mind Stone was actually a part of Vision, his powers were many but not necessarily super powerful? None of this can or probably will be answered by this series but just lingering Infinity Stone/Gem questions..
In my head, the dog was actually the bunny transformed by Agatha and she didn’t literally “kill” Sparky. It was a spell. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
To try to answer your questions: 1.- Yes, the same way that the space stone give powers to Carol, it seems that each infinity stone give different abilities, the mind stone give Wanda a great power to mess with people heads and make reality what her mind wants 2.- As Agatha said, the infinity stone amplified the power of Wanda, that, otherwise, would have stayed the same, because she didn't have the training or knowlege 3.-Because Wanda uses altering reality magic, which VIsion doesn't have, see Vision as Captain Marvel, both have the power of a infinity stone but aren't as powerful as Wanda.
16:24 - the blinking red light on the unexploded Stark missile...remember the blinking red light on the Stark Industries toaster in the fake commercial in episode one. 23:44 - the red heart on the property deed...remember the red heart marking the calendar in the first episode.
@@projectpat8807 Good point. Not only that, but the title "WandaVision" is also a play with words as she creates her own TV series, but it isn't TeleVision, it is WandaVision. I think the title is just as clever as the show itself.
After the Ultron movie, I looked up everything there was to know about Wanda & Vision in the comics (because after watching Ultron for the 10th time, u start to notice stuff, like when Vision rescued Wanda after she ripped Ultron’s heart out). So I knew about them going forward and wasn’t too surprised by seeing them together in infinity war. We ALSO saw them interacting in Civil War, don’t forget!!
But the thing is, Wanda isn’t a sorcerer she’s just a mutant. That’s just what her power is, she was born with it. But because we didn’t own the X-men yet, the MCU made it seem like she was experimented on and that’s what gave her her powers. But she was born with them. So it’s reality manipulation, that’s one of her main powers. She’s not magical so that’s why she may come off as a sorcerer. But she’s a good ‘ol mutant 😌
One thing I will say about the "dusting" flashback. You have to remember Wanda was at Wakanda with like half the Avengers that got dusted. For them to flashback to that moment they would have to film with all those top stars just for one scene. It's not realistic lol. They've referenced that the moment where Wanda goes to see Vision is pretty much right after his body disappeared from Wakanda so that's meant to take the place of that moment you're itching for Steven lol
my husband died 4 years ago...he shot himself in the head, they later showed pictures of the scene to me in hte police department...it never legft my mind, I remember crying on this episode soo badly...not only because what Wanda was going trough but also because it brought back memories for myself :(
I loved your reactions throughout this episode reaction. Your jaws just kept dropping and your eyes got bigger every new reveal. You two are some of my favorite reactors.
I think Agatha is an amazing villain as well! I love Kathryn Hahn. So Agatha absorbs other people's powers, which makes her just ridiculously powerful. I think the one thing that a lot of people missed was the vision Wanda saw in the mind stone, and why the mind stone gravitated towards her. They do show a silhouette in the light, and in her eyes, there's a reason for that. This is definitely the origin of The Scarlett Witch, which as Agatha said, was supposed to be a myth. This is the first time she is referred to with that title. So essentially Wanda was a natural witch, and she actually made the Stark bomb deactivate without even knowing it, saving herself and her brother. When they experimented on her, and brought her to the Infinity stone, it only reacted to her, it killed anyone else that tried to touch it. So she was imbued with even more power, and I believe that the person she saw in the stone was actually herself, in her full power as The Scarlett Witch. This episode made me cry so much, because at the heart of everything is grief, and what grief does to a person. Ultimately, she created Vision from her memories of him. The line that Vision says about grief being the perservance of love, is incredibly beautiful. She created an entire world for herself, out of grief and pain, and honestly anyone that loses someone would hope for the same. Wanting that person back, feeling pain and a void that can't be filled without that person in your life. My god, it's heartbreaking. Wanda truly did not have ill intent. She did not mean to hurt anyone, she simply couldn't face life alone after losing everyone she loved. I can understand that feeling. It just makes me want to cry. Seeing Visions plans for the future just put her over the edge, so she created the life he wanted to give them. I absolutely adore Wanda, I always have, throughout all the movies. I think that the MCU gave her a great back/origin story here, and I believe that she will be featured predominantly in future films.
Seeing Wanda's grief being so deep and powerful that she manifested Vision is the moment that broke me. This show truly is one of the best things Marvel Studios has done so far. Can't wait to see your reaction to the finale!
Don't forget to watch the special 10th episode where they do all the behind the scenes stuff about the making of the show. The sitcom parts were actually filmed before a live audience so you never hear a laugh track, but the actual laughter of the studio audience. Imagine how hard it was for the people who were in that audience to keep the secrets for so long as a lot of this show was filmed back in early 2020 and then began filming again in late 2020. Now again Nikki may be a bit disappointed with Agatha Harkness in the comics as she was never all that powerful and never a villain, but was actually the magical tutor and actual friend to the Scarlet Witch.
Steve, I just want to say how happy I am that you found a new thing to annoy Nikki with. It's been a while since I've seen her eyerolls from "screamin' firehawks!"
Trust that after just losing Vision (and previously her brother), being dusted was welcome by Wanda. It wasn't the most traumatic moment in her life. It was welcome and easy as can be. Just like when her brother died in AoU she pretty much just gave up living and was willing to die before Vision flew in and saved her.
For Firefly fans, it reminds me of the Doctor saying he had never shot anyone before and Shepherd saying, "I was there son. I am fairly sure you haven't shot anyone still.'
Keep doing it Steven! lmao, I love when you mildy annoy her with an Agatha All Along, Ragnar LOTHBROK, and of course, the Jon SNOOOOOWWW... Its like your wrestling catchphrases, it's fantastic lmao. I totally pop for it.
Her brain equates her happiest moments with watching sitcoms, it became her coping mechanism so much so that her brain dissociates from trauma by distracting her with sitcoms thus suppressing the grief and pain in an effort to protect her. But after every trauma she’s had sitcoms and other people to fall back on, her parents, pietro, and vision but after vision dies, there’s no one to “pull her from the darkness” of her mind. And the one time she actually to grieve and move on... her brain won’t let her, instead her subconscious employs her chaos magic to “fix” it the only way it knows how... with sitcoms
"You're fucking gonna!" - seriously, should've been Wanda's line. I LOVE that Steven brought up the "I feel you" line. Awwwwwwww Apparently Agatha's coven and herself have a different kind of magic. Wanda's is chaos magic, she's a nexus being. Dr Strange's magic is also different.
🎶It was Agatha All along🎶 was referring to the things that went wrong (go back and listen to the lyrics and watch what she's doing) - turning the neighbors against Geraldine, killing the dog, planting Fietro, glitching the area near the border where the SWORD agents were and then baiting Vision, etc. Creating trouble in attempt snap Wanda back to reality, bait her to use magic, etc. Wanda's didn't know how she created this reality, and she told herself that everyone who got caught in the hex was happier, living in a peaceful and happy sitcom. If it weren't for Agatha's meddling, things wouldn't have gone wrong, and Wanda may have carried on that reality forever (or at least significantly longer than a week)
They never "called" Her the scarlet witch, but she was dressed as the scarlet witch for the Halloween episode. And btw, Vision was in his original suit in that same episode.
Agatha is an interesting character in this show. In the comics, she's not a villain. She's no hero, but she's not a straight up villain. She was the nanny for Mr Fantastic and Invisible Woman (Reed Richards, Sue Storm) and she also was the one who taught Wanda to use her magic properly.
