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1,4 can be risky. Because if you mistime the punish you can be minus on block (-5 i think?) since you are forced into knk stance, this makes you launch punishable. But most of the time people either jab you out or stay blocked when they see the stance.

@@snoopertrooper4468 theres a bit of a pseudo mix with that because if you do knk 3 right after a blocked 1, 4, you wont be floated by df2's and hopkicks, and if they start punishing your 1, 4 with jabs, you can duck it with knk 3+4 The move is risky outside of punishment for sure, but it is still the best i10 punisher

1, 4 yeah sure is totally good for Tekken 7. 1, 4 in Tekken 8 forces you to go into KNK stance, which is *easily* punished. I used 1,4 all the time back in Tekken 7 then I brought my Tekken 7 knowledge to Tekken 8, 1, 4 not only easily punished, but also launchable. Unless there's a way to cancel 1,4 KNK stance just like Ayorichie did.

​@@tripleaces659you can cancel with crouch dash sidested

@@ryzen8039 Oh really? I will try that then, thank you 👍

Leo is a he stop using they them pronouns 😭

​@@Jaaayminajestry leo is androgynous and harada and team keep it up to interpretation

@@VDViktor and that was retracted. That was the original design but was rewritten and changed, so yes technically at one point that was the case but it was scrapped . That’s why he’s called Leo. And pronouns are sex based, we call males he him. That’s why we call male animals like dogs he him as well. Leo is a boy, 🤦

@@Jaaayminajestryget a job

Appreciate the support! It’s a big commitment, but I hope to get to every character eventually.

Dang! That is a commitment. Also really appreciate the layout and structure now that I'm getting to watching. Most of the guides I've seen aren't as easy to follow.

Julia nation are very sad beacuse Leo gets Julia mountian crusher and some other moves and this means my girl will not be in Tekken 8

These are all good to note, thank you for sharing!

Good catch, great insight. Thanks!

Oh sick I didn't know KNK 1,2 was NCc from f+4, very nice

Got this one from playing the arcade story, it's simple, but idk how 'good' it is. carried me to combatant over the weekend: df+2, uf+1,1, db+2,4

If you can do f+4 early in the string (e.g. after f,F+4,3) then you can do KNK 3,4 T! ff+2~1+2 to get a Lightning Glare stock. (You can actually do this off almost any Tornado move because you can do a long forward dash into the ff+2, but doing it off KNK 3,4 makes it very simple). Otherwise, your simplest choice is to use anything to set up u/f+1,1 T! and then finish with either d/b+2,4 or b+1+2,1+2,qcf+2 (you can just do b+1+2,1+2,2 if you're worried about sneaking in the qcf). Another option for looking for T! is that if you get a sufficiently high launch (e.g. BOK 2, d/b+3+4) you can do f+3~D BOK 1,2 to get a Tornado and pretty high juggle filler (you can easily get 70 damage like this).

"Sure it's a CH launcher" uhhh thats a bad thing?

@@Pikachu-qr4yb I touched on it’s CH property in the video, so I reiterated it here. I was just calling out an additional positive quality.

For sure, already got this feedback and plan to include it in coming videos.

@@loops9508ace! Greatly appreciated :D

Good point, noted!

Additionally, wall game seems far different in T8 vs T7 as side roll wakeup has become more effective. Any splat option is best with b1, 4 KNK 3, 4 to resplat first and then further options from there that seem ok are ub3, df 2+3 for oki and b3, 1 for max damage with BOK for wakeup mixup (remain crouched for 3 spam, BOK 3 to catch stepping, delayed BOK 2 to catch ukemis and build frame traps) Another oddity is that with both wall combos and midstage, adding a heat extender to rebounce seems to add no damage on routes I've found due to scaling.

CH f+4 guarantees the KNK 1,2 follow up. Free heat.

A mix of both. If something is REALLY + or -, then the character will stagger a bit to let you know they're recovering. Anything else is less visual. If they just push 1, left jab, that's going to be +1. If it isn't 1 jab, and it isn't staggering you, assume it's minus a bit until they prove otherwise.

Something I found useful when I began looking into stuff like this was setting the practice dummy to block and trying all sorts of stuff on it. This isn't a hard rule but generally speaking, the earlier the block spark is compared to when the attacker's animation completes can give you a visual reference for how dis/advantaged you are afterwards. Then you can start sorting your punishers into stuff like "ok that's only a little bit so I'll use a fast one" and "they spend ten years in recovery so I can press a slow punisher". Whether that works for you is probably going to vary heavily per person, though; I know some people who vastly prefer to just memorize actual frame data.

To go into crouch dash you hold down forward while in KNK.

⁠@@loops9508I thought so but it looks like you go straight be to standing after you entered KNK, guessing I pull back up instantly after initiating the crouchdash?

@@apolloeggo3677 Oh I understand, after initiating the crouch dash return the stick to neutral to go into “while standing” mode. The move with the rising knee is WS 3.

@@loops9508Thanks man, this guide has been beyond helpful. Was looking all day for a Leo guide yesterday and found nothing off of the search. Luckily youtube put you in my recommended, I got a local tournament tomorrow so this was awesome to watch.

It’s more like f 4, df, n 3. The 3 is a “while standing” move, so it’ll only come out if you push 3 while Leo is transitioning from a crouched position to a standing one.

I do. My Twitch is "SMPLoops", but I intend to migrate to this RU-vid in the coming weeks.

I really hope Leo still YEAHs

Bro I watched a couple vids. She technically does still "yeah" but it's not the YEAH that it used to be. It's more like a "yea". Which is awful. We need the YEAH! Cuz YEAH!@@jayrent98

Gr8 video though lots of love

NOOOO SOMEONE NOTICED 😭😭😭

That's all you take from this? A dude makes a decent guide and all you got to comment is about gender of pixels?

TTT2 bikini Leo is a woman

@@seed8325yes m8 it’s a guide isn’t that serious mf wondering the gender

@@bingobangobongo425confirmed to be a female but the original appeal of Leo was if you think Leo is a male that’s fine but if you think Leo is female that’s also fine

@@Wyn3e it’s a gender ambiguity archetype common in Japanese media. Haruhi from Ouran, etc. I’m well aware. I prefer Leo as a cute boy instead anyway