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​@@thephoenixking3242 what did they change?

they restored them I think@@thephoenixking3242

@@rimreld Siam was so strong bro, you could wipe your neighbours.

​@@thephoenixking3242didn't they change it back??? So that Siam has their cav fire again?

@@pascalschneider4283 just looked it up and yes, if the wiki is up to date they now have very good ideas again

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Like from the start or?

Yeah, I vassalized them on some run without thinking it through... and though I soon decided to not worry about the rebels, the constant popups about it got quiite annoying xD

Also, you can't annex a vassal when its provinces are occupied, so I had to beat them

Already did quite a big Majapahit run :> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-90cG3FLZKao.html

The fun starts there, you gotta go after these two achievements

you can do the first 2 missions on the right side of the mission tree day 1, if you are willing to hire a level 3 advisor as well, since in order to both get 6 mana in each category and 60 loyalty with estates, you need to sell titles day 1.

On the way!

Glad to hear that :)

Ofc, but I didnt plan to sell titles

Planning to!

It's actually a benefit if they are your subject since you can farm army tradition by fighting their rebels

@@archetiip I would rather farm army traditions by fighting enemies and not wasting time on a problematic subject 😕

I'm aware lf this one, dont worry

Everything in it's own time

As I've recently discovered you don't need to do that as of 1.35, thanks to the estate privileges that give you decisions to trade prestige for loyalty. You still do everything here except the sale of titles, but by taking those aforementioned privileges you still get your 60 loyalty for the estates mission and you get to start the game at 15% crownland after you seize land. This way, you're almost guaranteed to have 20% by 1450, slowing down the steadily creeping up autonomy and making your game easier in general.

@@AGrumpyPanda that’s a great idea too, forgot about those because I never use them

Of course, if we do part 2

I did a big majapahit campaign already, did you see it? :)

Colonizers? Hold my gold

Soon!

You should :)

You don't need to sell crownlands in 1.35 since you have privileges that allow you to buy estate loyalty with some money or prestige/legitimacy. So you can start with all 3 privileges for mana points and still deal with both missions.

I didnt do it because of these missions. I did it because of local autonomy. Disaster gives to many minuses to start below 10%

@@ZlewikkTV That's fair, I'm a slower player to start with so the autonomy was easier for me to deal with than having the extra groups of rebels.

@@Bubble__Gum That's a very good point and makes it that much easier.

Not when you have low manpower and base your early gameplay on mercs thanks to gold mines. I'll defend my choice with every last hour of eu4 gameplay I have :). The only possible difference is to consolidate them over time, but these cav was a few ducats a month difference due to being more over FL. While indeed sometimes flanking might be useful, 3k cav is not as relevant as it seems while it's 2.5x bigger cost still does not make it worth it. Also keep in mind I fought vast majority of battles with mercs, so that cav would carpet siege unused. You might die inside, but we can have a different approach. In the end (if you watch both parts), I'm sure it worked out well and as I expected ;)

@@ZlewikkTV ...maybe i do have a *horse* in this race 🐴

The first upgrade only needs 10, you're thinking Expand Infrastructure which requires 15.

Easy

Soon!

Already did ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-90cG3FLZKao.html

And what impact does it have for success? From 1 to 100? 2?

Let's see: You lose more or less 10% (scaling ever bigger) tax, which boosts your inflation, even more so when you consider developing gold mines. You lose 100 gold and 4k manpower straight up. That is more than one or even two initial conquests worth of stuff. Most importantly, you lose crownland to nobles (in the long term), which are arguably the worst estate to give land to. And you gain some manpower you do not need since you are relying on mercs yourself. Personally, I hate increased levies for reasons above, and I prefer consolidating out the cav. BUT both these actions you do at once are noob tier. About 33% bad for outcome money- and crownlandwise. And, anyone can conquer West Africa as Mali, if you consider that success. You can declare no cb on everyone and still do it, so that should not be your base for assessment. 😊

1. That 3k cav is 1.62 ducats monthly (19.44 yearly) by itself and additional a 5.96 ducats month for being extra 3 over FL. With such a low manpower, I prefer these 4k mercs over 3k of cav 2. Since manpower privilage was boosted after a tragic nerf, it's alright in specific situations. I'm still standing by the usefullness of this in the Mali run where you fight rebels and wars constantly for the first 20 years. Tax loss? Are you kidding me? It's literally around 2% both in 1444 and 1482. Day one you are losing a 'massive' amount of 0.08 ducats a month (even better, I checked 1482 save and the change was...0.4 ducats a month when my income is 58), which changes... nothing with your inflation. In exchange you are getting 1,872 max manpower. I take it as a good exchange rate. 3. Then, I do not take argument as 'lose crownland to nobles long term' as much valid since this privilage gives as much loyalty as influence so it's not a problematic privilage at all. You take advantage of it for the first 20 years and then easily cancel. Having in mind that mission tree requires you high loyalty of all estates, I take it as a good combination in this scenario. 4. In 8 out of 10 runs I'm not taking a manpower privilage, but EU4 is not an uga buga game where you always pick same stuff, no, you have to adjust to circumstances and as long as you can argument your choice it should be alright. You approach where you call someone out for doing 'noob tier' choices is quite toxic in my opinion. I respect that you do not like this privilage, and I'd expect the same from you if you see a reason behind a certain decision. 5. Then, the best proof if someone's decisionmaking was alright is final results, so what's each estate influence in 1482 save? a) Ulema - 41%, b) Guilds - 88% c) Dhimmi - 69% and d)... ultra huge 40% with 77% loyalty. Cownland ownership? Amirs and Dhimmi around 20%, guilds 16% and Ulema 14%.

@@ZlewikkTV Thank you! You are a great youtuber with a loyal audience, and you still choose the harder option of engaging with hypercritical comments as well as with praising ones, even tho the latter is the meta. 😁 Still, let's scrutinize this further. 1) Yes, I get that cav is costly, too costly. I am not opposed to getting rid of it (most of it). But I would stress that you would do better by consolidating them out, since you would actually lose about 0,5-1k manpower by deleting depleted cav you sent into battle, than 4k manpower, which we should compare to: 2) 1,872 max manpower, as you know, is an amount you get per 10 years. Les't round it out to 2000 which you should get with good recovery rate. That is what I meant with my initial quick calculation. Now we can see you lost the amount of manpower (about 3k) you could use against Jolof or Jenne -- which equals to 15 years worth of manpower from that privilege. I would contend that you will tank the cost of cav easily if you had "used it up" in the first year (so, it would cost 20 ducats total). All in all, I stand by that you gave that privilege for no significant gain, as I outlined, because you could have used that cav and you did actually used mercs mostly. Now, the inflation from that tax loss does seem negligible, but it is there. At 30:08 you have 13 gold income and 57,5 total income, which should be 0.226 yearly inf. While 13/58 would be 0.224, which the game, I believe, will round up to 0.23 and 0.22 respectively. That is why I don't like this privelege especially for nation relying on gold and mercs, and I think it is precisely bad in this situation (while could be better for nations who do not use mercs and do not care for tax meta). This is not a huge contributor, but as for results: you do have 16 inflation at 1482, which would take 600 adm to fix. And you have adm tech 2. Some other choices sure have influenced this, but still, I think I was not wrong in mentioning bad inflation management.

@@ZlewikkTV As for further points 3-5 regarding crownland, I retract my criticism since I noticed at 28:10 you took "Compromise with the nobility" sometime before that. I did not think of that since the actual pick of that reform is edited out. This reform at least negates the influence of amirs from the privilege, and so picking it becomes not-so-detrimental in my opinion, and even almost optimal for Mali with their stabhits, since you get stab cost reduction as well.

Sorry, lvl 3 of what? That timestamp leads to a mission requiring dev

​@@ZlewikkTVyou had 275 ducats and could've upgraded Center of Trade from 1 to 2 and clicked mission to go from 2 to 3

@@nrbmemes2414 most of Trade center missions do not allow getting lvl 3, I dont remember what was the case here