I am a Tesla shareholder and hopefully take an informed view, whilst not agreeing with all of Elon Musk's opinions. However, I think it is a bit childish, although your right to base a purchase decision on them. What are the moral standards of say VW and their involvement in Dieselgate? Or the manufacturers, many Western who bought components made with slave labour. What about the managers of Chinese EV makers who aren't able to criticise the CCP? A lot of double standards here. There is also a good chance that all those buying EVs without onboard FSD computing power will have worthless vehicles sooner rather than later. Dave Takes it On released an excellent video on Autonomy today to which I commented "A faultless analysis Dave. There are other advantages. The resource and energy intensity of mobilty at system level will be vastlty reduced for countries, as will wear and tear on road surfaces through unneeded acceleration and last minute breaking. Flexible mobility will be available to a wide range of citizens that now are disadvantaged, disabled and the visually impaired for example. This transition is often compared to the change from the horse to the IC Engine, but it is far more profound and happening faster. Societies are not grasping this 'Tesla Paradigm' reality, particularly the USA. The implicit Tesla Paradigm can be stated "our mission is to minimise the integrated Resource , Energy and mobility Intensity of societies at system level at continually reducing 'Loss to Society' 'Loss to Society' is that loss of time, ingenuity and limited resources arising from the creation, use and disposal of non-essential value, of not doing the right thing right every time; on a balance of probabilities."
@ddeightonuk Volkswagen. Is not an American company. Chinese ev makers are not American .See the difference? If you do not guess, that might be might be part of the problem.
Even taking Musk out of the buying consideration, the alternatives are serious challenges to the Tesla range, buying an alternative would not be cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, in many cases they would seem to be the better car.
Agree. This dude has changed. He's going from being the cool positive guy to an increasingly paranoid and irritable old man. Also he still runs Tesla as a start up company not a mature manufacturer. He has failed to ramp up service center support as sales have increased. so it's hard for people that have maintenance issues that can't be fixed with an over the air update to get timely appointments.
And no consumer access to OEM replacement parts. And charging 3000 a year for service manuals once they were forced to by the Government. I think these reasons will be the reason the Tesla Semi won't take off.
Yes, Tesla desperately needs a real auto exec CEO to become a real car company if it wants to branch into the other model segments and grow. It is very common for a groundbreaking startup that the visionary needs to move on for the company to mature and advance in its industry.
I’ve never had to wait more than 3 weeks for an appointment but it was all minor stuff, maybe I got in early? The startup mentality is really helpful and at other times disruptive and challenging not to mention morale. But his way of “cut off more than you should and hire back what you must” works. I’m disappointed he gutted Supercharger staff but then I see the industry sliding into a very difficult period where China will be tough recession and floods, dueling tariffs and other disruption I think it’s wise to keep ahead so they never lose money again. The mission can’t fail. He’s driven by that goal. To the detriment of much else. But you don’t drive Elon you drive the car. His stance on young trans individuals is shocking and doesn’t fit with his usual compassion for people. But VW and all European OEM’s and suppliers lied about pollution controls and that undoubtedly killed people. The airbags killing people was shocking. Toyota lying about crash test data and the whole Japanese industry colluding in prices in the aughts was shocking. People suck. But many are also awesome. We’re flawed. I’m hopeful that UAW loving Biden leaving the scene might open a door to a new attitude towards Elon from Dems and a realigning of Elon’s priorities and rhetoric on X. I still suggest ignoring his non-Tesla related posts cause he’s having fun as an edge lord, it’s his stupid hobby, mine’s candy crush soda
I'm hoping Walz comments about his crappy NAPA headlight replacement and that fact that he comes from a farm state means he might support Right to Repair. Unfortunately, any such comments will upset corporate donors who have sullied our political system but he does seem like a no B.S. VP.
@@petersachs764 Walz actually signed some of the most aggressive right to repair laws in the US into law in 2023. As far as I can tell he's a big supporter of Right to Repair, and should be an awesome consumer advocate in the White House.
3rd parties can 100% repair Tesla's, the issue is there are very few doing it. Tesla will sell you access to the back end systems and its usually much cheaper than the scan tools other automakers sell. Apple on the other hand wont do this and the closest they do is ridiculous.
@@lelandhetrick205 Nissan went out of their way to stop repairs. The only reason there is 3rd party repair (and not much of it as that) is because people overcame Nissans serialisation attempts. Seems a bit unfair to give Nissan any sort of credit given the actions (or attempted actions) of the company.
Now give us the political leanings of the CEOs and board members of VW, BMW, Mercedes, BYD, MG, Volvo, etc, etc ......we need to understand their political leanings on subjects unrelated to cars.
It's not about political leanings. I have no problem supporting companies led by people with different view, but I won't support someone who's trying to destroy our democracy,.
Whenever I comment on news articles about Tesla in the Washington Post, I point out to people that, whatever they think of Elon, to not apply that more broadly to EVs, since much of what's going on in EVs is not Tesla. Whenever they replace their next car, they should at least test drive an EV, since they would be doing themselves a disservice if they didn't. It's painful to say, but I think there's no doubt that Elon is hurting the Tesla brand.
@@1voluntaryistSuing advertisers for "humanity" because "money doesn't matter" suing AI for humanity because "money doesn't matter" taking billions in tax payer dollars so he can play with his rockets at Boca Chica because "money doesn't matter" dead naming his daughter because she doesn't matter, Leon fans never fail to amuse. 😂
I would definitely include the Ultium options as alternatives to the Model Y. The Cadillac LYRIQ and Chevy Blazer EV and Equinox EV are all very similar in size to the Model Y, with very similar feature sets, pricing, and range. For me, the fact that it's now possible for the average person to walk onto a Cadillac or Chevrolet dealership and drive off in one of those models makes them worthy of consideration.
I also think there's definitely no list like this which is complete without mentioning that in a lot of places in the United States, you can easily find a used Chevy Bolt for often well below $15,000 with often well below 50k miles on it.
@@nikidelvalle Five days ago, I got my friend into a '19 Bolt, 33k miles, $20k. He's ecstatic. A six-year-old EV with a two-year-old battery whose warranty runs until 2030.
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@@nikidelvalle But you'll want to make sure that it got the replacement battery. Chevy is no longer offering replacements unless your battery actually fails.
I did knowingly purchase Tesla solar panels. In my defense, solar is a money-losing branch of Tesla, so I got cheap solar panels and it cost musk money.
Irrespective of all Elon's many other faults the way he has run Tesla in the last 2-3 years is just nuts. He's tried to cut costs in dumb ways while wasting increible amounts of money on the vanity project that was the Cybertruck and run the tesla "Semi" truck programme in a half assed way while legacy truck makers just got on with putting electric trucks into production and stole Tesla's lunch. Add totaly failing to keep Tesla's mainstream product range up to date styling wise , or expand it at all where it matters and the corporate car crash is complete.
It seems pretty clear that Musk lost interest in Tesla the day the window shattered at the CT reveal. Since that day, it has been a chore for him to do anything related to Tesla the auto company. He can maintain interest in the company only as long as he can associate it with other projects such as robots and AI. The day he started selling billions of dollars of Tesla stock, this was the signal that he was done.
Yes, please, tell the worlds richest man, that you know more about running a company , and how he should do better . I swear, imagine telling a successful Entrepreneur, That he is doing it wrong. The second his company start losing money , I’m sure he will be more than glad to talk to you. Until then, it is absurd to discuss how he is doing things wrong.
EQS is $30k more than a Model S. Ioniq 5 is $4k more than Model Y. You better really hate some guy on the internet you’ve never met for that kind of money.
Agreed! All the other EVs are a conglomeration of competitive electronics that are strictly proprietary. Need to replace a circuit board? 3 times the price from aftermarket programmed. Tesla makes their own circuit boards too. Tesla is Real Over the Air Software too. Why doesn't any Mfg. employ their charging infrastructure? Sold on Tesla. Not on Elon Musk.
Even before Elon showed his true colours as as a right wing nut job, there were better alternatives to a Tesla. True Tesla bought EVs to the main stream and proved they were viable alternatives to ICE cars, just like apple shaped the smartphone market we have today. However I wouldn't buy a Tesla with or without Musk at the helm.
@@Notagain640 hogwash. Musk is pretty liberal. Name one thing that makes him a "right wing nut job." Also, what were better alternatives before Tesla? Nissan Leaf wasn't bad, but terrible range... What else?
I would never buy a Tesla, purely based on my dislike of Musk's antics of late. Irrelevant in the big picture, since I also can't possibly afford one (or even to insure one). I'm quite happy with my 2016 VW e-Golf. It's the right size for my needs, it's fun to drive, and its incredibly limited range (all of about 85 miles per charge) isn't a problem for my limited in-city driving. There's a car on the market for everyone and for every use case. The idea that Tesla is the best EV for everyone is simply incorrect.
I have road tripped with a friend in non-Telsa EV and it’s charging hell. Half of them don’t work or charge at half the rate or start charging and kick off after a few minutes. You may not like Elon, but good luck on a road trip. I’ll stick with hybrids
As a Brazilian EV driver, Tesla isn't really a choice for me. Here we have, however, a few Tesla's alternatives from China. My car is a little BYD Dolphin and it doesn't have competition from Tesla. We gotta love a compact hatchback with some grunt and efficiency for road trips, don't we?
I'm seeing quite a few BYD Dolphins in Ireland. Very understated vehicles with good road presence. I'd honestly call it a mini-MPV like the 2000s Opel/Vauxhall Meriva or Ford BMAX. Let's hope the BYD Seagull with Sodium Ion comes to our shores and our butts in seats very soon 🤞
As an American I feel errr (know), China plans to invade Taiwan, commits atrocities against Wieger people, helps steal intellectual property from the USA and dozens of other horrors people don't even know about. I just lost some weight so certainly enough us fat Americans can fit into an ID3 made in Tennessee so we can get our EV tax credits too. 😅
@@grabir01Is there any actual data from any reputable source to back up your preposterous claim?? In the US, Chinese made EV batteries have been on the roads for years. As far as I'm aware, the vehicle recalls for battery issues have mostly been for batteries from LG, out of Korea. Although I think some of the actual manufacturing might be in the US. I'm referring to Bolt, Kona and even IPace.
Oh dear the Elon fanatics are out and about. They cant stand the fact that the man they adore is not liked by everybody. Its good to have some alternatives explored and thanks Nikki for doing this. In Europe we are lucky to have a larger number of manufacturers competing in the market. If we followed the Tesla fan boys logic we would still be buying (Ford) Model Ts cause they is best. We all have different taste and requirements and some of us prefer a proper button every now and then.
Not liked?? People are calling him a monster; and want to destroy a company just because of him. Call people Elon fan boys, but you people are just pure lunatics .
Why would anybody want to support somebody with what they considered dangerous views.I do not see that Mr. Musk supports democracy or free speech.Except for free speech " his way".
The Left has their version of Democracy..they blocked RFK from being on the ballot in many states and didn’t give him Secret Service protection, bizarre given the Kennedy history. Before Elon bought Twitter, the FBI was working with Twitter to target those opposed to the Democrats. Most of the MSM operates like an extension of the Democratic Party.
Thank you, I didn't understand the different Tesla models to begin with. This helped. Still happy with my Bolt EV, though I will likely upgrade my wife's car next which is currently a Toyota Corolla 2017 ICE.
In early 2022 I rented a Tesla and absolutely loved how EVs drove. The next week I ordered a Model Y Performance. It arrived two weeks later. Installed a Level 2 48A charger and I was changed. I told my wife she should get an EV too. She already HATED Elon Musk and refused to get a Tesla. However she drove my car a couple of times and really loved how EVs drove. She wanted an Audi Q4, but they were not available, so she put in an order for an ID.4 in March 2022 which was due to arrive in August 2022. August came and no ID.4. We went to look at slightly used e-Tron and loved that car, so we bought it because my wife already sold her old car. The day after we went to an Audi dealer to connect the app to the e-Tron and the Q4 demos arrived right as we arrived. There was also 3 separate cars not allocated. We bought one. Now we had to choose which car to sell, the e-Tron or the Model Y. We sold the Model Y. We have been Elon Free for two years now and have no regrets about it.
It’s unreasonable to hate Elon Musk, given what he has and will do for the planet, despite being a jerk in some respects. Nobody’s perfect (especially VW management).
@@mnhsty Musk isn't even a jerk. You're talking to the group that claim to be about love and acceptance, while being some of the most hateful people on the planet.
@@Whole_Leash_Itnothing about how you guys think is reasonable. You’re obsessed with the man, while not caring at all about the products you buy, that comes from China . You care more about WORDS, than actions
We got the Hyundai Ionic 6 and love it. Just wish it had a 360 degree camera view standard. Even the Nissan Leaf had that in 2018. It can't be that hard.
@@stevewausa Agreed. My 2015 Leaf-S has 157,000 miles on the odometer. Great commuter and local errand vehicle. Greater Seattle area resident. Never overheated the battery pack nor so low to go on "turtle mode". Reliable and cheap to operate.
So disappointed. Especially as a shareholder. A proper CEO needs to keep out of politics. Certainly they all have political views but they really need to be adults and keep their views as low profile as possible as to not alienate shareholders, fund managers, institutional funds that might divest (Harvard!) and more importantly, potential buyers of your product. Honestly, I don't think the Ketamine or whatever he is on is working.
I am also a shareholder and believe the CEO is toxic and has demonstrably committed securities fraud multiple times, and now is in violation of FEC regulations. To say nothing of what he’s done with the Tesla product line, based on leaks. I think in general it’s notable that a lot of EV leadership represents a right wing perspective, where the planet is only nominally important, compared to the ability to deny compensation to people of other cultures of any of their preferred culture’s precious money.
As much as I find Elon on the nose and am fed up with his antics, he is not threatening to invade or assimilate another country or building illegal military bases in international waters. Elon is not jailing or executing people who disagree with his political agenda - yet!
Owned a Tesla model 3 and Y. Recently traded the Y for a Polestar 2. Musk’s endorsement of Trump and calling his daughter dead to him were the final events. Tired of him running the company like a personal experiment rather than a car company.
The new election fraud he released with his PAC and lying on camera about not giving millions to Trump did it for me. He seems go be recreating the increasing bizarre behavior of Howard Hughes .
Trouble is the MSM spread the lies and the general public eats it up and doesn’t fact check. Regardless, while Teslas are rather boring looking, they are the best engineered, with the best charging network.
As a Tesla Model Y owner, I stopped into a Cadillac dealer to ask about ordering the new Optiq model. I would rather do business with Mary Barra than Elon Musk.
@@transportevolvedyeah lol you’re pretty freaken weird . You’re the definition of weird. It’s insane how you guys now use weird as an insult tho. Then again, you’re the party of unity and acceptance. Right?
Acceptance doesn't mean letting bigotry go unchallenged. Or allowing people to be weirdly obsessed and invasive with regard to other people's bodies, healthcare decisions and lives. ^Kate
@@transportevolved the left wing is the biggotry Kate. Weirdly obsessed and weird in general is again the left Kate. The people you call far right today are even more at left than the left wing in the past. You are the far far left if this still can be called a political wing. I would call that insane because it's related to feelings and not logic.
We have an Ioniq 5. The build quality is average, the panels dent easily and the interior plastics are low quality and easy to damage making it not such a great car if you have a family. The service from Hyundai is terrible and incompetent, worst I’ve even experienced in 20 years of car ownership. It drives mostly pretty well, but it feels heavy and is given to wallowing when cornering. And then there is the common ICCU problems, that luckily we haven’t (yet) had. Ours does have the HUD which Tesla should just get over themselves and offer on their cars.
So I guess you stopped using Microsoft products after Melinda Gates divorced Bill Gates's because of his many visits Jeffrey Epsteins island? There are plenty of Open Source alternatives available
Hi Nikki, I love the show! Would you please do a video on GM's current V2H model lineup and their home energy center capabilities going forward? The lease term on my Bolt finishes in April and I'm considering a new Equinox EV lease/purchase and GM's complete home energy package for backup power. Thanks!!!
Hi, while I agree 100% with your view on Elon's outbursts .. and thinking that he should have stayed doing engineering stuff !! .. I'm not sure that most of the other EVs are the solution to this.. since they are made and owed by Chain.. what are their views on the same topics ??? kind of a little two faced.. :( .. unfortunately Tesla is the largest Western successful EV manufacturer.. we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face !! (I don't think I need to specify.. job losses etc.) .. thanks for your concerns and voicing them.
19:35 I should actually have given more thought to my list of alternatives, considering I'm about to trade in/sell my Chevy Volt, but I'll still need a capable backup vehicle. Model 3: I consider the KIA EV6 to be more of a direct Model 3 competitor because it is a bit smaller than a standard SUV (only 50 cu/ft of overall cargo), so my personal pick would be the KIA EV6 Light Long Range RWD. Model Y: For the more traditional crossover SUV, my personal pick would be the Chevrolet Blazer EV RWD. Model S: If I was in the market for a high-end EV sedan (I'm not), my personal pick would have to be the Audi e-tron GT, with styling being the only real reason I would pick it over the Porsche Taycan. Model X: Again, not in the market for a larger SUV, but my personal pick at the moment would be the Rivian R1S. Cybertruck: My personal pick here would be the Chevrolet Silverado EV 3WT. I don't need the extra range for towing, and the lower price and additional payload and towing capacities matter more to me.
I drive a Tesla and still have my morals intact. Associating a car purchase decision with morality is puritanical at best. Anti Tesla rhetoric is causing Tesla owners to be harassed in public, their cars keyed etc. You are okay with this? How moral is it to attack Tesla buyers for their EV purchase decision? Ridiculous.
Lol morality into the buyer process. You care more about what the man thinks, and says, than what the companies that you buy from, actually do. I’m sure you buy many things made by child or slave labor. But oh no, can’t buy from Elon, cause he said mean words!!
I went from a Model S into a Lyriq and never looked back. Lyriq is more luxury with crossover convenience, without the air suspension, available in both rear or all wheel drive and doesn't show the age of a Model S ie. it's more driver friendly and refined. Good compromise all around although the Luxury 3 trim wasn't cheap and doesn't save money over Tesla.
When you were listing Elon's problematic statements/actions, I thought you were going to go farther back than just the last 4 weeks. 🤣I swear I'm at the point of, "Oh, great. So what is he going to do/say next Tuesday?"
I could care less what Elon does or say on his own time,wether i agree with them or not doesnt determine how i view products his company produces,so as is Tesla remains the most lucrative product in the EV market
I think the guy in this video needs his head examined cos hes going around telling people hes a woman when he looks like shrek and got a hairline like pennywise
❤❤❤❤ I have a BMW iX that I bought 3 months ago. The car is just perfect. Glad I didn’t buy Tesla X or S (not up to par). Model Y and 3 are fine… but supporting Musk/Trump is a f**k no for me.
Yeah lol better to support biden. Oh wait, no, you guys finally admitted he lost his brain. Guess you gotta support the candidate they didn’t even allow you to choose. But yeah, Elon and trump are the problem. Elon almost singe handedly made the ev market place. And I don’t even like EV’s
@@janchristensen8704Lol So you don’t use google. You don’t watch Disney. You don’t … oh god, I’d spend all day naming al the ways you’re a hypocrite. You only care when it’s the politics you don’t like. So stop pretending
Did you miss the bit where Nikki mentions MB's level 3 driver assistance? That's _better_ than FSD. I bought FSD on our '18 M3, $6k, and it never worked during the four years we owned it. I was taken to the cleaners on a promise that was never kept. Nah, Elon's screwed me over once, and that's the last time.
BYD & MG are both Chinese made vehicles. Which if that works for you in Europe and Australia go for it. None with do better than a Tesla as it’s a vertically integrated system. When other car makers help build out the infrastructure and improved charging. It really doesn’t matter what a business owners says or does, because they are dealing with the political environment in the US. Since Tesla is not a unionized company ( the employees choice) the owner ( Elon) has to get more politically involved. Which is ironic since he supported Biden, but was then ignored by the Biden administration.
"If the child is not embraced by the village, they will burn it down to feel its warmth." I think that's what happened when Biden left tesla out of the EV summit and gave Mary credit for stuff she didn't deserve credit for.
Great title and admirable posting :) As I said in reply to someone below, I was a huge fan but the man has become a danger to peace, truth, stability and mutual understanding just like his new bff. If I buy a Tesla I put money in his pocket and there's just no way.
How is he a danger to peace ? By letting Ukraine use Starlink ? The Democrats spin this democracy narrative, while blocking RFK and launching law fare on their political opponents
@@AaronHope_Sow it's his craziness that got space x to make woke Boeing and NASA look Incompetent. It his drive that created Tesla by building infrastructure with product, he speaks his mind if craziness is leaving California which even woke companies like Google are moving out because a child of any age can if teachers determine have an operation to change their sex without telling parents is not worth Fighting than what is. Even woke Hollywood is leaving the state. He hasn't drunk the cool aid. He has the craziness of Tesla Leonardo he creates draws talent to his vision. Without men like him we who break the mold science wouldn't advance beyond the limits government allowed.
I don't think disapproving of Tesla really requires you to give a damn about Elon's politics (dreadful as they are, to be clear), the products themselves are garbage. Not only are they at the forefront of the kind of "modern" car design that makes our vehicles less safe and functional in order to cut costs by shoving critical functions of the vehicle onto a touch screen to force us to look away from the road (like the shifter, climate control, radio controls, etc), but they have consistently proven themselves time and time again to have nonexistent quality control (Cybertruck panel gaps lol), to make bizarre manufacturing decisions (like not having manual releases for the doors), and make promises about their products that they know aren't true while also faking test results ("Full Self-Driving"). It is insane to me that anyone wants to own a product from this brand considering how consistently they put their customers and the people who share the road with them in mortal danger to make a buck.
I’m currently only 5 minutes in, also I live in the states, so some cars like MG aren’t available in my market. Are you aware of the history of Hyundai Kia with unethical practices? They were found to have hired under aged children to work, illegally in their Alabama parts plant. In Canada, Hyundai dealers were charging customers $20,000 for a new battery when they drive over a bump scrapping the bottom of the vehicle. And previously for their regular ICE vehicles, they don’t have a reliable reputation for reliability, bad transmissions, and going against their warranties. For reference for those who may not know: Hyundai/kia/Genesis is all one brand. I love their design, but I would never support this company and also wouldn’t trust them with such an investment.. they also have recent events of their ev6’ catching fire in parking garages
Buying American made, massive support, tons of aftermarket accessories and support, fantastic charging infrastructure, service at my home if needed, not Chinese tofu, makes it higher on my list than what the ceo likes or dislikes.
So buy a lesser electric car when they're already a compromise because of politics? I'm not a fan of Tesla vehicles I think they're poorly built but it'd be the only electric car I'd ever consider.
There are lots of good alternatives, better alternatives. BYD Seal is better than a Tesla M3, for starters. And any other brand had better service centres than Tesla, which is worse than horrible.
We were looking at a Model Y, but have since decided on a Ford Mach-E. However, now that Nikki mentioned that BYD will start selling in Canada, we may just wait for that.
For a long time, Elon was one of the main reasons I wanted a Tesla, however I couldn't afford one And yet these days where I could easily buy one, he's the single reason I'll never own a Tesla
I was holding out for a refreshed Model Y due out next year, but now I am waiting for the 2026 BMW IX3 Electric SUV. I am surprised that Elon and the board have not had an SEC case filed against them for neglect of fiduciary responsibilities to shareholders. If Elon's tweets alienate a percentage of potential buyers that impacts future sales and thus is not in the best interest for shareholders which is a direct violation of sec fiduciary rules.
This channel released a video saying EVs good even if they’re from China who has a literal record of horrible human rights abuses and then in this video say it’s ok to avoid Tesla EVs because the CEO has and shares opinions you disagree with? What in the world of cognitive dissonance is going on here and could you at least try to be less obvious about it?
Those opinions as you call them in a transparent attempt to gaslight folks into believing are not the actual hate speech, white supremacist idiocy, conspiracy theories, and fascist authoritarian simping, of the far right wings compensating for their glaring insecurity they try to hide with hate and bigotry towards those who’s confidence, character, friendships and integrity they are so very jealous.
Yea idc about what Elon says lmao, I care if the car is good or not & if it has the best tech. Right now No one is close to Tesla in terms of tech & self driving. Tesla also owns the majority of the charging infrastructure in the US.. so regardless of what ever EV you own.. you’ll more than likely charge it up at a Tesla charging station lol
I am sure glad I didn't feel a need to purchase products based on politics. I am also happy that there are finally starting to be competitive options to Tesla vehicles. If I remember correctly that was the original point of Tesla. Elon said he wanted to make EVs the norm. He has certainly been polarizing his whole career. I enjoy watching your content and thanks for the video.
A valid viewpoint. Some people won't buy 'foreign' cars, others don't like particular nationalities and you might not like a particular model for reasons to do with previous, relatively unconnected faults. Personally I don't think the personality of the CEO changes the car much, but you probably wouldn't select Stalin's favourite wall-paper if you knew it (choose your fave dictator or mass murderer). Some wouldn't buy the same car as their school bully, or a red car. It's complicated, so I see this as a useful way of looking at alternatives, even if you are not simply avoiding Teslas. It's not an absolute but I have difficulty deciding whether to reject the products of certain food and chemical companies and entire countries because of their history. The significant problem is that sometimes the facts come to light much later.
Elon is devoted to facts and truth at the highest levels. He's not always right, but if you find yourself consistently on the opposite side, you may want to question your core assumptions
@@ryanviningtube He's so special, isn't he? Giving s place for people (including himself) to openly lie, lie, lie about anything they want. What a WONDERFUL thing. You've been fished in.
Nikki, This was nearly exactly what I was looking for. I can't afford a new EV here in California but could do maybe a lease return or used Kia 6. That would be nice.
I can’t believe anyone would buy an ev in Cali, when your governor literally begged you guys to not charge them, because your power grid can’t handle it
Excellent video, and pointing out you don't have to buy from a company run by a stark raving LOONEY. He is even ruining the driving experience by getting rid of a real wheel and traditional indicators.
His way of just having a center display and almost no buttons or lever has always been an issue for me. I tested the Lyriq and was very impressed. I just can't afford it right now.
@johnlodge8546 : so I guess you stopped using Microsoft products after Melinda Gates divorced Bill Gates's because of his many visits Jeffrey Epsteins island?
I think a video crew should come to Atlanta and go crazy at the Porsche Experience. In a tricked out Taycan on the track. It is crazzzzy as hell and don't eat before you do it!
Good overview. I'd include the two electric Lotus models at the high end. Not that I can afford them, but the reviews were really positive. And speaking of Geely: Zeker, Smart and the electric Volvos are also generally well regarded. For high end sporty cars, there is the electric Maserati. In the mid range the Renault Scenic is the current European Car of the Year.
I went from a Y to an EQE. I have to admit it’s not as good as the Y when it comes to ease of use, jerky braking, and slow charging. Its had a lot of electronic gremlins also. It feels like an ICE conversion with the way it operates. The interior is quite nice of course, quiet and smooth ride, and power delivery is quite good even with the base motor. I’m definitely thinking of the Lyriq when this lease is over.
I have a 2018 Model 3 with FSD. I WAS planning on trading it in for a new Model 3 at some point. That was until Elon revealed himself. I will probably hold on to this Model 3 as long as possible and by the time it NEEDS to be replaced, hopefully 1) Tesla will have a new CEO or 2) There will be another reliable EV that can do FSD well. If neither of those things have happened, my plan B is to buy a newer Model 3 with FSD used from a private party 😮💨 and Plan C is to settle for an EV without FSD. Yes, I know FSD isn't really FSD but it has gotten a lot better lately and I hope other EV makers can implement similar.
I get the aversion to Musk, but any objection to the CEO begs the question, how do the other CEO’s compare? Are you supporting someone worse, just less famous?Buying a Chinese EV is tacit support for slave labor of Uighurs, and a rejection of middle class ownership in the US. (Tesla factory workers own a big chunk of its stock as well) and they all are purchased via the dealer system, which I’ve suffered via my Chevy Spark. it’s more expensive, time consuming, and frustrating than Teslas mobile service network. And all the alternatives come with planned obsolescence, whereas the Tesla actually gets better over time due to its software focused design and constant OTA updates. Perhaps a used Tesla is the right balance here?
I really love the look and size of the model 3. I’ve been looking at buying a used one from Hertz. However my second favorite is the Polestar 2. Although I love Tesla vehicles, I do not like everything that EM says and does. This was a great video. That you and your team for being awesome!❤❤❤
When i bought my Kia EV6. I looked at tesla, and would have considered one, but the nearest service shop was about 3HR drive away. they have a new location like 30mniutes away. Now. But also a similar spec tesla was 10K$ more then my KIA. Oh Edit note,, anti repair was another big negative to me.. well self repair that is.
Of course if you don't want your EV to be connected to Elon, you must never charge your EV at a Supercharger, never use a NACS adapter and never buy a non-Tesla EV with a NACS charger port. Otherwise, you would be a hypocrite.
Tesla opened up NACS to be open source, so anyone can make one, it's no longer being held and controlled by Tesla, so it's less of an issue. Using the T Superchargers would be an issue still.
I met a Tesla owner in Canada's Okanagan region while I was charging and he asked how much I was paying to charge. Apparently at 60 cents per kilowatt hour his rate was not as good as mine and he said he sometimes used the public ccs chargers because of this. So convenient but not as cheap.
I used to see Tesla's hogging the L2 Chargers all the time, this is 2 blocks from a Tesla Supercharger station, some are just selfishly using it as parking, others seem to realize the price is right and it fits their time frame
Oh, and don't forget that Elon Musk unilaterally shut down StarLink's communication network the Armed Forces of Ukraine was using in their summer offensive in 2023. 🛰 So he's also personally responsible for hundreds of deaths, not to mention the South African slaves who died in his emerald mines! 😡😤
If you're going to propose cars that aren't available in the States (MG), why don't you talk about Renault, whose Mégane and Scénic are excellent "reasonable" cars?
Include me there. I was riding for Tesla since 2006, thought one day I could (second hand) own a Tesla S or whatever. But now I would never for both reasons of Musk's outright malignant behaviour and the frightful reputation of Tesla's service centres and the misery of 3rd party of DIY experiences. If not Citroën/Peugeot or Kia/Hyundai definitely a Chinese electric car. Whatever that is a desirable EV being the most practical, efficient, affordable, enjoyable and Sustainable product. So far Elon Musk's/Tesla's focus has been on absurd time wasting like and dubious mismanagement the Cybertruck, Falcon wing doors, Powerwall & solar city roof tiles, Boring, so on and so forth. And there's no sign of a Model 2, 1 or a simple pickup version of the Model 3 or Y.
Personally, i do not share many of Musk's opinions, but when i look at the cars, i can see that there is an ammount of dedication, passion and creativity that most other brands lacks. I think that most people should stop looking for heros or enemies and see other people ( including a bilionaire as Elon) just as onother human being, that sometimes does good things, other times may do or say bull***t. I hope i'll manage to buy a tesla soon, and i also hope that evs ( all evs) will stop to be a political matter. This being said, nice video ( as always).
@@marcopino332 Tesla has done a fantastic job at driving EV vehicle costs down. If only they focused on that and building out the supercharger network I don't think nearly as many people would be upset.
It is hilarious that you would suggest Tesla of all companies has "dedication" and "passion" as they pay their employees the lowest of any company in the industry and constantly cut corners on manufacturing and technology development (often putting their own customers in mortal danger in the process). They certainly are "creative" though, yes the Cybertruck could certainly be described as "creative"... Of course, who in their right mind wants a "creative" car in the first place, instead of one that works the way you expect it to?
As someone that's owned 4 Teslas (still have a MY) and 3 non-Teslas, the only thing Tesla has going for it is software and Supercharger access. My EV9 is better than my previous Model X, not to mention the current Model Y. Our previous Bolt EUV was also very well put together, other than the crap front seats.
Hmmmm. Best to ignore Musk’s political views. He is wrong about many things, but is a stone cold genius in tech and manufacturing. Why suffer needlessly. Just buy a Tesla and be happy. Elon is not a perfect human, but he is what the world needs right now. Cheers.
tesla's look a bit dated these days, and I am in Europe, I think we have at least 50 alternative models on the market, if it's not 100 . Plenty of choice
As someone who got a Model 3 in 2018 before Elon got a brain worm(I made that up), can we just celebrate the fantastic EV options out there. The list has really grown and improved since then. I would have thrown in the id.buzz with the EV9. Did you mention the id.4?
I paused just before the opener to say that while any one of his polarizing actions is enough to drive me away, I also have a pragmatic reason for avoiding Teslas. He is so mercurial that I don't trust a software update not to go rogue one day. I can only imagine the havoc that could be wrought. As long as he is there I will not be there.
So, Model Y replacement. We get a lot of snow and ice in the winter, take long, 1000 mile+ road trips, and are comfortable with the Tesla Supercharger network. Is the MachE really better than an Ionic 5?
According to Snopes, Elon didn't actually post about not allowing use of the word "weird" to describe Trump supporters on the platform. Maybe you're referring to something else. I'm not as tapped into Elon as you are.
@@transportevolvedlol debunked. How about not posting inflammatory videos about things , unless you actually know? Nah, can’t have that. Gotta crap on Elon
Our local Community Choice Power company just introduced a new incentive for solar batteries, but it's a deal that ostensibly requires Tesla Powerwall 3. No thank you. Not perpetuating that awful company and it's idiot retail investors who overpaid him to then go on to support Trump. The program actually just has specific requirements to absorb and discharge 50% of battery daily (good) and other emergency dispatch programability requiring the BATTERY MANUFACTURER to coordinate with SDG&E to qualify. So yeah, Tesla only for this soon to sell out program.
i want to avoid buying ANYTHING connected to elon. no tesla, no powerwall, no solar roof, no starlink, no nothing, and not just because of the list at 1:39 but mainly because he supports the klump.
Which do you think is more likely - Boycotting Tesla hurts Elon or the push to EV adoption in the US? If someone works at Tesla then they too must approve of his behavior/views like folks who decide to buy Teslas or are they too living in a comfy bubble of denial? There is a lot more nuance to this than the video would suggest. Good topic for discussion though.
Had Tesla delivered the affordable EV Elon promised years ago, they would be more important to EV adoption in the US. They didn't, so that greatly reduced their value to us.
How has Waymo beat Tesla to the robo self driving taxi fleet , he promised full Full Self driving yrs ago n has never delivered n Tesla has had atleast 7/8 yrs head start on waymo clearly Elon has lost his way in more ways than 1
@@leondalegardens Bingo! The european manufacturers are also just building enough EVs to not get fined for fleet emission targets. People are still waiting months for some models, as if it was 2021 😅
