War Dawn | Transformers: Generation 1 | Season 2 | E43 | Hasbro Pulse 

OH THAT MAKES SENSE Optimus and Magnus were old friends so that’s very possible

@@Longinusprime1320 it has also be stated that Optimus and Ultra Magnus are brothers and while here they wouldn’t be brothers like Sideswipe and Sunstreaker, they would still be close enough to be considered brothers

Based on the timeline some of those drone types were probably rebuilt as the seekers like star scream and them.others were put away. Maybe in that detention center wonder what was of shockwave maybe his spot was held by obsidian.

@@c.glazercrush3994 there was lots of tfs that looked alike in the beginning of Megatron's war he seemed to prefer drones or recruit through his robo smasher Seems like meg's, soundwave and shockwave was the first recruits meg's had or they was in all created together which explains why meg's and shockwave and soundwave is so close Meg's said starscream joined the decepticons

@@tridentsilver766 Dion was a character that was written to be killed Lots of transformers was written just to be killed since they wasn't given the green light to kill a major character but someone had to go Believe war dawn was giving is hints at the movie every autobot in this episode died in the movie Screamer died, meg's, thindercracker and skywarp wass rebuilt

The thing is there are so many seekers that never got named.Purple , Green,Turquoise,etc, name a color seekers don't have. I even saw a brown and white seeker in an episode

@@ronkali5365 I have not seen a G1 Seeker that has rose pink as a primary color. lol

@@ronkali5365 looks like they weren't strong enough for the Decepticons

There's some headcanons about the seekers being technically speaking a race among the Decepticons themselves. I think in IDW this was used with the "cold construction" as a manner to explain sparks were assigned to build in series flying transformers. As such, sometimes seekers often see each other as brothers or fellows to an extend.

@@clownplayer7265 Oh yeah it’s interesting what canon and fans have both done in more recent years to explain how seekers operate within their own social/familial circles and why they’re always in groups, etc. Which makes it really funny to look back at g1 and see how they do not give af about each other 90% of the time lol 😆. I guess that’s why the scene I mentioned in the original comment caught me a little off guard. Usually starscream, skywarp and thundercracker have no problems with antagonizing/hurting each other (or throwing each other out of space ships lol). It’s just a nice little moment :]

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​@@IamWoneHuh?

@@IamWone Satan is the true God

Love that line from rachet

@@moonqueen2k184 For our sins we deserve eternity in hell, but God loves us so much he came as Jesus to pay the price of our sins through living a perfect life for us, his death and his resurrection so we can be forgiven and receive eternal life if we follow and obey him in faith FOR LIFE , Jesus loves u and desires to have a personal relationship with you of love, peace, redemption and obedience ✝️ May Jesus bless you, repent of your sins and turn to Christ before it's too late 🙏🏿❤️

_cough_ Omni Man _cough_

True man

Doomguy/Slayer.

That's so true in real life as well.

And knowing is half the battle. Wait! Wrong show.

Yeah, Slingshot was REALLY enraged at Megatron as he actually admired him and the Decepticons only to learn how brutal they truly were. Having emotional ties with Orion Pax and his friends of course is what led to him and the other Aerialbots fully committing themselves to the Autobot cause.

@@girlgarde Pretty damn good writing for a half hour toy commercial!

His name is Robert Paulson!

Agreed. I would also add that he did an excellent job of putting sadness and anger in Slingshot's voice when he and Silverbolt are carrying the deactivated body of Orion hoping to have him repaired and brought back to life.

He also voice Carl Wheezer in Jimmy Neutron and did voice in Gi joe and other known voice over works.

By that logic, as much as Megatron laughed in general in G1 and as crazier he became as Galvatron and purple to boot, that makes him the robot version of the Joker

@@chrismc410 More like the Red Skull, but with purple. You always have to have a Red Skull vs Captain America.

Nice

Red, white, and blue colors match

They also did the same thing in the Transformers Prime series.

I can only imagine that they would brag about that for the rest of time lol.

​@@RemixOfTheVoidMan you can consider it ironic that Optimus and the others had a hand in building the AerialBots and Megatron sends them into the past where they end up on Cybertron during it's golden age and meet an innocent dock worker bot named Orion Pax who after had a near fatal encounter with Megatron causing the AerialBots to save him and his girlfriend Ariel and his best friend Dio to be brought to a young Alpha Trion to be rebuilt into Elita 1,possibly either Ultra Magnus or IronHide and Cybertron's greatest hero Optimus Prime so what Megatron did by creating that time machine of his as I mentioned in a previous comment nearly created a temporal paradox by sending the AerialBots into the past to fulfill they're destiny.

@nicholasmorsovillo2752 Beast Wars made it crazier, cause the Aerialbots couldn't have existed if the other bots had been wiped out in the past, and if they didn't exist, neither would Optimus Prime.

​@@RemixOfTheVoidso if Optimus had been destroyed in beast wars, Orion would have been destroyed here

@@AutoRevLife Precisely

Well I mean look at animated and prime ratchet

Ratchet has never had the best bedside manner, has he? But in some ways his behavior here owns up to his character profile.

The,Transformers in my opinion was,way a head of its time. The ability of a robot to transform , the great voices of prime and star scream, great scripts .The only thing that came close to it in my opinion was He Man. A more complex series ,maybe the best ever created was the Xmen of the 90s.

Totally right.. man have you seen inhumanoids now thats a trip

You're well within your right to be nostalgic for the 80's cartoons, but it's very clear you haven't been paying attention to the quality that modern cartoons are putting out. Character driven, continuous narratives are by far the most popular form of children's cartoons right now that regularly tackles backstory, world building, and character exploration.

@@Diaboragon It depends on what cartoons you are speaking about. Some modern toons are pretty entertaining, others are garbage. But let's not get mixed up between cartoons for adults and toons for kids (if that is what you are speaking about. As a kid, the 80's toons were of great quality, most toons for kids these days are simply mindless drivel.

@@roadkillz78 No, we are absolutely not mixing up cartoons for adults and kids. Shows like Owl House, Infinity Train, Amphibia, Adventure Time and Gravity Falls are all for kids, they just have storytelling that can entertain adults as well. Just because you want to divide them up to prove some point doesn't make them any less dedicated towards children. I'm sorry you're so threatened by the idea of today's kids having equally quality entertainment as you did, but actually just get over it.

You even hear it too in Optimus' voice when he goes "You!" after Silverbolt calls him Orion Pax. :) Just the shock and realization how the Aerialbots saved him when he was young.

The Constructicons too, I think.

Now I know why Superion has a strong disdain for Decepticons in his toy bio. I APPROVE!!!

No it was the Predacons. Only Skylinx was their equal regardless if they were indidvuals or combined in Prediking.

Predakons as predaking would beat them all hands down then menacor.

@@sccc6758 Predacons = Predaking STUNTACONS = Menasor.

Hahahahah. That’s great!

How ironic

Literally something I didn't notice until I rewatched it today. I first saw this episode back in either 2009 or 2010, and ONLY just saw that lol

I've seen this ep countless times and I only just noticed that about Thundercracker for the first time..l had just watched the scene before l read your comment and wondered if it was a different voice actor or if he just delivered that line differently for some reason.

@@TF80s in that episode Thundercracker was voice by Walker Edmiston (the same guy who did the voice for Inferno)

What shocked me was that in season three prime, Ironhide, ratchet and wheeljack would be dead so.wpuld screamer Megatron, thindercracker and skywarp would be remodeled into you know who

@@WickedAndWhacked wally burr did it according to tf wiki

I just rewatched The Key to Vector Sigma, and I'm really glad you pointed this out.

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​@@cristsan4171You assume the U.S. is the only country with bad or corrupt leaders.

I actually think Megatron miscalculated here. Had he feigned being nice with the Aerialbots, sent Starscream's jets to play mentor to them, he could have easily recruited them into the Decepticons. Instead, by tricking and betraying them, he cemented their determination to be Autobots.

@@jeanettewu2537 Yep, but that is Megatron. He wanted control, and got desperate. Actually the Autobots stopped the crono device in time for the the Aerials to be put in the right time and right place to see who their enemy really is.

@@donmccullen1973 Yep. He did the same thing with Skyfire.

@@jeanettewu2537 Megatron had enough seekers and jets already and he had plenty more on Cybertron what did ne need the aerialbots for

@@jeanettewu2537 Yeah plus Megatron could easily have told the Aerialbots about the bad things the Autobots did to the Decepticons in the past which drove them to rise against him. Many fans speculate that the Autobots constantly mistreated the Decepticons during the Golden Age of Cybertron and treated them like 2nd class citizens and I tend to believe that. While it doesn't excuse the extreme actions of the Decepticons, it would explain why they waged war on the Autobots. If Megatron had told the Aerialbots these things combined with the other things you mentioned, he could've gotten them to become Decepticons as with the exception of Silverbolt were doubtful that the war was entirely their fault. As for Megatron's actions against Orion Pax and his friends, Megatron could've been driven by hatred for the Autobots and their mistreatment of his people along with keeping them from their rightful place as leaders of a Cybertronian Empire and saw all Autobots as scum. Of course, the Aerialbots had emotional ties to Orion Pax and his friends and since they hadn't done anything bad to the Decepticons, they were rightfully enraged at Megatron and ended up being determined to stop him no matter what.

Funny rob Paulsen doesn't remember doing transformers guy had a busy schedule guess he looked at it as a job and taking whatever gig he could at the time but I think.transforners was one of the first things he's done if im.not mistaken

@@chrisedwards3214 Well, it's not like he played memorable characters. He played two Combiner limbs for three episodes.

@@Davethe3rd Peter cullen forgot he played Mario in Saturday supercade Frank welker had to remind Peter they were the voices of mighty man and yuk lol

@@chrisedwards3214 Mighty Man and Yukk was the first paring of Peter Cullen and Frank Welker.

@@Davethe3rd Paulsen was just starting out then and I guess he just looked at this as a paying gig

Yep.

Idw Orion pax admired megatron

The original Stan.

That's cool. The friends we have often determine the choices we make.

My favourite is the Story in Transformers Prime. They combined the old G1 Story with the newer Story of former Primes

This is more true i think

I enjoyed this origin along with Transformers Prime’s origin.

Isn't this still his origin? He was still Orion Pax. They just changed his occupation.

@@ixiahj That does make sense. And there is some wisdom that can be gained from being what's basically a warehouse manager.

They started late in season 2. Also Charlie Adler, Laurie Faso, and others didn't get the voice credit either.

Reminds me of Hot Rod.

Yeah cheers grandad

Destroy the time machine now repair the time machine

And throw the Aerialbots back in time. He could have gone back to do any number of things yet his present existence is most important. Though as we see in this episode going back in time to change the course of history would not have done so since any time travel is already part of history.

Makes you wonder why Megatron didn't build another time machine? Unless the time machine he acquired is not his, and it is a 'lost technology' in which Megatron found it.

Respecting time laws I see

Another important one was the history of OMEGA Supreme.

100%. I remember watching it when it first aired. I was like 😮

Oh yeah, that’s right. Beast Wars

Beast Wars is NOT cannon to the original Transformers show. The writers even said it and it shows.

@@great159 canon = legitimate cannon = galvaton's alt mode

@@great159 In Japan it’s connected to G1 and that’s also what I choose believe

Well, Power of the Primes Optimus Prime pretty much covers this. The cab module is Orion, merge him with his trailer, and you get Optimus Prime.

And it means that all concepts of Optimus and Megatron being friends in their backstory have precedent in G1.

Remember how Optimus and Starscream lost their coloration when they died? I think the same thing is happening to Cybertron.

@@nicholasbrunell8210 that actually makes sense if you really think about it. That's brilliant mate!

Im from Israel. Transformers was broadcast on tusdays on five oclock I think. I had a Judo class that I liked ,but they wonted to change the class to Tusdays so I quiet it and went to another teacher....

I remember When I was in america California in 1988 , they used to show great cartoons on saturday mornings ,Spiderman ,the hulk

Yup. Transformers along with G.I.Joe, Thundercats and Dennis The Menace.

What errors?

This episode was done first, so everything that came after was wrong, in terms of lore errors.

@@HerohammerStudios About 2, Elita is inside of the warehouse but appears twice out of the warehouse running with the Aerialbots, all of them running together to the warehouse. But she is already in the warehouse, so he appears 2 times, inside and outside at the same time, the events are not correct.

@@PaulDavies4 read my other comment ...

Megatron was just created around this time he decided to put together an army and take over cybertron

@@chrisedwards3214 a young Megatron would of been crazy,I'd imagine he'd like to blow things up.he hung with shockwave who had a face before until it was blown up by some autobot general.starskream thunder cracker and rumble would be around him as well.The culprit who blew up soundwaves face worked for obsidian and striker.The team got modified into their current look by the fallen along with the ancient cunstructicon group.This would put things into perspective and along with the gladiatorial combat and loses of Conrad's would be the build for Megatron's rage.

​@@c.glazercrush3994Isn't that comics? Not sure if that's G1 lore

In gen 1 prime only has the face plate that is his face it's only bay formers who gave him a proper face and cartoons after etc.

Yeah thats comics that isn't gen 1 cannon.

Kinda but Hb is quite shy to it. In DW it is highly alluded to.

I think he was, but before he was given a better body for fighting

The real question is, why does Ultra Magnus always get punked!

Well Magnus could be a completely different character, the two of them don't have to be relate

Weirdly I always thought Kup looked closer to Dion back in the day.

Yeah but its a kiddie cartoon so they have to have the Decepticons mess up their own plans. In reality, they would've sought to convert the Aerialbots to the Decepticon cause and likely succeeded with the exception of Silverbolt of course who was pro-Autobot from the very start. Of course, Slingshot and the other Aerialbots were only iffy because the Humans at a military base fired on them thinking that the Autobots attacked them earlier when it was in fact the Stunticons. It never occurred to those idiot Humans that the Decepticons could've gotten reinforcements from Cybertron so the Humans too were idiots at times who messed things up.

Even if he did, the others would've seen how war hungry Megatron of the past was and would've changed.

Eventually, yes. All I was saying was that they would not have been witness to the Massacre at the Energon Storage Facility. The other Autobots might not have had as easy a time getting them back, even with the supposed Recall function, depending how it works. Only true Decepticons--inherent or reprogrammed--or certain Autobot criminals were susceptible to the power madness of their inferred allegiance. (This except for the Decepticons who really were just in it because they were true "followers," i.e. Soundwave.) The Aerialbots would have surely switched sides or more likely high tailed it to a more active part of the Galaxy / universe--think Season 3 rather than Season 2--where they didn't have to deal with the monotony of a war that shouldn't be their problem.

To be fair with Megatron, the aerialbots were pretty new warriors, practically fresh meat that just happened to be elite from the get go. It's easy to assume he just simply hasn't have the time to fully know his new enemies yet.

Well actually they didn't die orion turned into prime and the girl eleta 1 true Didn’t say about dion but sounds like he wasn't dead so probably rebuilt to possibly into ultra magnus but that's fan theory 🤔

invincibility frames

Nah his respawn shield was still counting down 😂

This is the beginning of the THIRD Great War NOT the war itself. The FIRST Great War was the rebellion against the Quintessons. The SECOND Great War was Autobots vs Decepticons where they developed transformations🤓

@@great159 Thanks for clearing that up. I thought that the Cybertronian Wars were always Autobot vs Decepticon with different Primes and Leaders of both sides clashing.

He's the main reason why I call people fool lol

Meeeeeee... this is the origin of Orion Pax, this is true gold

@@DMfanforever2009 Well said.

Not a fan of Transformers one. They completely disregarded the original storyline

​@cjparks7881 transformers prime did the exact same thing yet is considered as one of the greatest transformer series. So does transformers animated.

​@@danielbalderrama4137 Not only do they disregard this plotline, they limit everyone. Five Autobots and Three Decepticons? What about everyone else. I know the fans doesn't like Rodimus, but it's called Transformers. It's not just Prime and Megatron. It's everyone in the Autobots and Decepticons. Haven't you noticed in G1 we see every single Transformer on the show? One day it could Ironhide taking the lead in an Episode. Or even Sideswipe.

Thats prob pure goddam energon down there, idk.

Furthermore in S3 "Forever is a long time coming" when Superion saves A3 from the Quints. Making the robot revolt posible. And bringing it full circle, saving the one whom in the future would give his life to create them. Very important, indeed.

Megaton *points his Fusion Cannon at you, then thinks better of it* “although now that I think about it, Mawhaa”

@@davidtierney7941 Sometimes Megatron needs a second head to make a good decision, unfortunately that second head is that idiot Starscream.

Megatron: We’re not doing that because that would make sense!

@@santaboy4818 and traitorous weasel, Starscream.

@@santaboy4818 Megatron and Starscream trade the idiot hat a lot in season 2

The Season 3 Autobots are loveable in my opinion, but I wish at least more of the Season 1-2 autobots had guest roles in Season 3.

@@jjjsalang season 1 and 2 autobots>>>season 3 autobots.

@@domingorubies656, I agree. It took time watching the Season 3 episodes for me to appreciate the Season 3 autobots. However, Season 1 - 2 autobots were better.

@@jjjsalang Decepticons too. Although Predaking and Trypticon are cool.

It honestly wouldn't have been so bad if they weren't trying to kill/replace ALL the original characters...But hey, we get more Dinobots, so that's always a plus season 3 did. Also Grimlock saving the universe.

I saw that

I loved this movie 🍿 it never gets old, I love doing Stop Motion animation with my Movie & G1 Transformers mainly 🎬📸🎞️‼️

@@OfficialTransformers Okay... That's nice to know i guess...

Transformers have the ability to increase or decrease the power they put into their shots/attacks

2006 megatron upgrades 2007 aerialbots taken out by six shot and then taken down again by the combaticons sucked to be a season 2 toy in rebirth

Survived to the end of The Headmasters, what's this "Rebirth" trash you're talking about?

​@@chrisedwards3214 they did survive rebirth even though they were taken down twice but still i would have prefered them have more screen time especially since we saw them running from abominus when they could have just formed superion and kicked abominus back into his components so yea i agree it sucks to be a s2 bot in s4, but atleast they were given justice in the japanese exclusive headmasters sequel series to S3

That's not "before". It WAS processed, twice: first normally (possibly at a lower level), then as a "remote audio transmission".

@@JoseBronxRican I meant before the processing of the typical Soundwave voice, but thanks for the clarification. I'll edit my comment.