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War Thunder Cheating - (241) - (KICKED FROM xTHCx) davidj123456 - An investigation once again 

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@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
Please follow this template for reporting cheaters to me: Player: ID: Replay:
@Baconator0
@Baconator0 3 месяца назад
I never use the range finder myself I have 600 hours and after the first 200 I just learned how to look and see about how far a target is
@danielgarcesiii5709
@danielgarcesiii5709 3 месяца назад
Id like to report a cheater. Player id Jacksonpvp Replay 188383501896739715 In minute 8:50 when he spawns in a tiger he sees me afar between houses and streets. It's on Sweden map. I also have a small Clip on my uploads. It's warthunder cheater Jacksonpvp. Don't know how to report him since I play on console and he's on pc. Thanks
@MRchilZa
@MRchilZa 3 месяца назад
Player:lil sqUIRT6140@live ID:130362621 Replay:295bcd34d727169
@trueweapon2349
@trueweapon2349 3 месяца назад
@@Baconator0 He is just bad
@lindafrans3573
@lindafrans3573 2 месяца назад
Staring at a terrain where the enemy is and it’s a CQB is completely normal I even do it but i mostly listen for enemies track engine sound and locate them. Get more proof I see this player to be just an ordinary player.
@ACR909
@ACR909 3 месяца назад
The fact THC still host this player after being made aware of all the evidence against him shows they have 0 integrity.
@wedgeantilles3983
@wedgeantilles3983 3 месяца назад
Theres been a bunch of justinplays clanners busted for cheating over the last year but nothing done because of youtuber NDA. They're not allowed to acknowledge that theres cheaters in the game. The closest we got was a Phly vid who featured a cheater and he got a CaD a few days later and eventually deleted the vid. None of them want to mess with the monetary bottom line. Also NOBLE clan has been busted so many times that you should automatically save and watch any replay where you had a match with a member.
@chengzi6416
@chengzi6416 3 месяца назад
@@wedgeantilles3983 When was the Justinplays clanners busted? never heard of it, and played with them a few times on discord and they seemed legit (we were streaming
@GN-zw4pt
@GN-zw4pt 3 месяца назад
even if they ban him, hes got ban only for account, hes can make another one and play again with cheats because cheats cost more than premium vehicles. people pay for premiums and do pay for cheats who cost less
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
@@wedgeantilles3983That isn't entirely true anymore. Hell TEC discussed it frequently after the recent Chinese bust. They just afaik aren't allowed to gripe openly about it, but can show an encounter of a player cheating offhand. Justin did it in a past video and send the replay to me to show
@lorppa8269
@lorppa8269 3 месяца назад
What evidence?
@patricklandfarth1182
@patricklandfarth1182 3 месяца назад
There should be a special Server only for banned Cheaters, than they can have fun who is the best cheater
@victoryday663
@victoryday663 3 месяца назад
Naw, their shell's damage/spall damage should be reduced by a shit ton + their tank should get full ammo ammoracked, even if not full ammo load, by the slighest of hits, like MG bullets, even if non pen.
@Clawwingo
@Clawwingo 3 месяца назад
@@victoryday663 real
@Marder_IFV
@Marder_IFV 3 месяца назад
@@victoryday663 thats cod lmao
@deluxalpha4138
@deluxalpha4138 3 месяца назад
@@Marder_IFV wt can adapt it, it would be nice seeing some of the cheaters complaining in chat not knowing they are being fucked with by the devs for being a pos
@thejhonnie
@thejhonnie 3 месяца назад
That's just an hvh lobby. Lookup hvh csgo 😂
@Asuka.Langley02
@Asuka.Langley02 3 месяца назад
this guy killed me at like 1km in the german t34 when i was a t34-1942 and it was like bruh through trees and bushes over a hill
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 3 месяца назад
How the hell did the F-34 gun penetrate a fellow T-34 at that distance?
@Tiredidiot775
@Tiredidiot775 3 месяца назад
It’s usually a m-51
@Asuka.Langley02
@Asuka.Langley02 3 месяца назад
@@Launchcode12 yeah through a hill and multiple trees and bushes where there was 0 visibility or way he would have seen me “omg you must just be bad”
@xvphoenixvii5146
@xvphoenixvii5146 3 месяца назад
i mean i've hit shots that are 1km away with a Chi-To Late, ARL-44 90, ect ect, i've never really been accused of cheating and i've never cheated in War Thunder, its not impossible but it can been seen as very suspicious, at far ranges with the right settings, bushes don't load either past 800m+
@Asuka.Langley02
@Asuka.Langley02 3 месяца назад
@@xvphoenixvii5146 literally he was sat in a place where there was hills and trees where it would have to have went through a hill and over 1 or 2 to hit me
@m81632
@m81632 3 месяца назад
THC saying "we'll only kick him if he gets banned" is such a horrible take. Respectable squadrons remove cheaters before they get banned, and there are plenty of obvious cheaters that have been around for years without getting banned.
@jamesreynolds1718
@jamesreynolds1718 3 месяца назад
well, he probably does a lot of call outs where the enemy team at on the map, when they are in a match gives them advantage.
@FelixTheory
@FelixTheory 3 месяца назад
(Edit): the man has been removed from the squadron, there are other and better evidence that shows he is cheating. Then why did Gaijin review the matter and conclude that he was not cheating? Suspicious behaviour is not equal to being guilty, got to have good proof and so far it’s not the case.
@m81632
@m81632 3 месяца назад
@FelixTheory Gaijin didn't review anything. Darksoulviper sent one singular clip to a GM that can't ban people himself and pretended that means the guy is cleared. If you've played squadronbattles for a while you will know obvious hackers that haven't been banned for years, like LynxSpray and compacts. Every respectable squadron would kick someone like this. The funniest bit is that darksoulviper himself said the guy is hacking while he was in AVR. That was a month ago.
@ACR909
@ACR909 3 месяца назад
@@FelixTheory Gaijin didn't review the matter lmfao. Your commander sent a SINGLE clip to a streamer who helps with replay review/bans, out of multiple. If you think this is "Gaijin reviewing the matter", you're delusional.
@FelixTheory
@FelixTheory 3 месяца назад
@ACR909 One employee from Gaijin as I’m aware has seen one replay. You or others have to give better proof than this video that has been uploaded. Suspicious behaviour is not good enough.
@halliwedge
@halliwedge 3 месяца назад
The fact that this guy is cheating AND STILL gets destroyed is completely beyond me. How shit at the game must you be to know the position of all enemies on the map only to still be caught out of position.
@TheGimpy117
@TheGimpy117 Месяц назад
cheaters often get over confident and also tend to make poor decisions since they rely on their cheat crutch. Once he got into a situation where he was surrounded by too many players too keep track of on his wall hacks he had trouble.
@magirktheone
@magirktheone Месяц назад
@@TheGimpy117 Also they usually are poor players.
@bossgunny4203
@bossgunny4203 27 дней назад
I've been in a couple of battles where the other team had a player score like a dozen kills and not get killed at all and I'm like how the f**k are you doing that
@SleeperAG
@SleeperAG 3 месяца назад
The most obvious indicator would be this Level 100 in a tough clan fluffing on his shots against several easily visible vehicles shown in this replay, after perfectly ranging 2 of them prior, and noticing people not yet directly visible. Most cheaters tend to be horrible even with cheats and it shows lol.
@overheadcam
@overheadcam 3 месяца назад
100% agree. I honestly think it's making him worse as he's using it as such a crutch and looking at so much he doesn't need to, that he's missing more important stuff actually posing a threat
@Beanys728
@Beanys728 2 месяца назад
If anything wouldn't that indicate that he has skill based on playtime for ranging easy shots without using the range finder, and that he doesn't really know exactly what will and won't work against every vehicle? Some of those m4's you can pen the turret where he shot it in some tanks. Some you can't.
@overheadcam
@overheadcam Месяц назад
@@Beanys728 He shouldnt have needed to range half those shots. any high hours player can see those distances for what they are on the spot
@Beanys728
@Beanys728 Месяц назад
@@overheadcam I literally just said that.
@hakuyamata9451
@hakuyamata9451 3 месяца назад
5.7-8.0 BR's are infested with cheaters right now in both Arcade and Realistic. Oddly enough there are more exploiters playing in arcade lately because it's 'harder' for them to be noticed cheating, and most players in arcade will dismiss blatant cheating just because it's arcade which is a nonsensical approach to the problem. 3.0-4.7 Still has a few exploiter accounts running around, mostly level 7-18's, chinese or russian names, but there are some level 70-100's who also have been chilling for a few weeks in the low BR's and cheating. (Note, I play on servers limited to USA only in matchmaking, and it seems like these are the servers all the exploiters are queuing for since I can consistently find them day after day. No clue how the other match servers are.)
@wedgeantilles3983
@wedgeantilles3983 3 месяца назад
You get around 8 to 10 hours of the day on EU servers where half of each team are chinese.
@armorc6779
@armorc6779 3 месяца назад
fun fact. you only need to have anti cheat on to play GRB and i think SIM. arcade and air RB can be played without running easy anti cheat
@encinasmotion
@encinasmotion 3 месяца назад
@@wedgeantilles3983 Despite common assumptions, the majority of the cheats' clientele is located in Europe and the US, rather than in China.
@TamamoF0X
@TamamoF0X 3 месяца назад
@@armorc6779 EAC is needed for any RB or Sim mode, regardless of vehicle type. Though not like it does anything anyway being that every single ban I've seen was a manual wave rather than something firing EAC.
@armorc6779
@armorc6779 3 месяца назад
@@TamamoF0X then how come i can play both arcade modes and air RB without EAC running hmm?
@MaijaSvartaAnkan
@MaijaSvartaAnkan 3 месяца назад
I never use my rangefinder, I just aim up and pray (or once I'm used to the vehicle I kinda just get a feel for the round velocity) Otherwise yea, this is egregious cheating, and actually changing the range before shooting knowing the exact range
@ACR909
@ACR909 3 месяца назад
Exactly.
@crimzonempire4677
@crimzonempire4677 3 месяца назад
Bind my range key to my mouse so I can range and fire at once
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
But how often beyond a certain range are you 100% correct? I mean I have 5000 hours in the game and im not center mass every shot
@MaijaSvartaAnkan
@MaijaSvartaAnkan 3 месяца назад
@@WTCheatShaming Usually hit center mass 95% of the time once I'm used to the velocity, and at the long ranges in BRs without mechanical or lazer range finders, I can readjust and get a second shot off before the enemy can rangefind me.
@Boris_The_Turtle
@Boris_The_Turtle 3 месяца назад
Similar for me, but once the target is a certain distance or more away I cannot reliably hit them on the first shot. It depends on the gun though, on the short US 75mm I am only accurate up until ~850m, but for the German long 88m 1,000m shots are pretty easy.
@a.t6066
@a.t6066 3 месяца назад
PLEASE do a video on the air cheater that blew up on reddit. That needs to be logged in the archive. Unlimited ammo, crashes all his teammates on match start. Absolutely insane Replay is 187253727927969683
@a.t6066
@a.t6066 3 месяца назад
He's got a fake unicode name too. Completely invisible. blank. Fyi his burner account in the replay was banned already
@ACR909
@ACR909 3 месяца назад
He's already banned.
@a.t6066
@a.t6066 3 месяца назад
@@ACR909 I know. I already said so
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
Bro is proving a point how weak this game's security is. Tbh Gaijin needs this to hear how much they are fucking up
@a.t6066
@a.t6066 3 месяца назад
@WTCheatShaming yea. I really hope gaijin takes note. Theyve had their head in the sand too long
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
Another note is there are a lot of other clips of this player locking onto targets or aimbotting in some sense. While this replay might not be completely conclusive to some heres a better background. This player was originally in THC, then was booted and moved to AVR where he was booted for suspicious activity and then THC took him back and even their own squadron commander admits hes 100% cheating from picture confirmations of discord contacts that I have yet will not kick or do anything about it unless Gaijin does anything. This is going to be one of those drawn out situations where it will likely take Gaijin AGES to do anything about it. But this isn't a speculation, there are tons of clips of this player cheating 100%. The THC squadron commander also wont kick him unless Gaijin bans him further proving the point that THC wont remain competitive since their own leadership would rather keep him fighting in squadron battles than kick a blatant cheater. Lastly I will leave the clips below of him blatantly tracking players thru terrain. streamable.com/1k1qnx streamable.com/0z72t7 streamable.com/5yo5gk
@FauItless
@FauItless 3 месяца назад
just had a vc chat in their discord with one of their commanders, banned me from the server after i laughed at him after he said 'no i can see his tracks through those 3 trees' in the 2nd shot of the 2nd clip
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
@@FauItlessTheir main leader wont kick him from the squadron unless gaijin bans him. Verbatim from him. So much for being an honest comp squadron
@ACR909
@ACR909 3 месяца назад
@@FauItless Yeah, you're not the first person THC has banned for speaking the truth.
@Goatfer
@Goatfer 3 месяца назад
yeah, I watched a few of his at random to check and saw quite a few times where he'd snap to an enemy that was behind rocks and try to shoot them through the rocks. When he gets distracted he gets sloppy.
@FelixTheory
@FelixTheory 3 месяца назад
Have you guys check their latest post on discord?
@MooseGaming33
@MooseGaming33 3 месяца назад
2:48 "I don't know anyone who just runs in" (it took me 5 years to get to 6.7 for a reason)
@egg3666
@egg3666 3 месяца назад
I will say this at first I thought it was overdramatic as the asu was in the spawn so it could just have been watching the spawn to see if someone was pushing as well as the asu wasn't perfectly being stared at. THEN THE BOZO IMMEDIATELY LOOKS AT THE M4 LMAO. Changed my mind immediately as that's just insane to do and definitely some form of esp.
@RamzysLambSauce
@RamzysLambSauce 3 месяца назад
In my defence I almost never use range finding in lower tiers unless it’s a far away sniper, or if it’s top tier, but then I seen him select the range and then my excuse for him just went away
@jacobwood8320
@jacobwood8320 3 месяца назад
This is interesting! I’ve recently started playing warthunder again bc my main game (EFT) is right in the middle of a cheater epidemic, the game is fucked. I wanted to know what a cheater sees and your breakdown is very informative! Nice.
@sobacake7699
@sobacake7699 2 месяца назад
question im in tier 3 and tier 2 mostly then , is enemy cheating when so far away with building and stuff smoke and stuff but can kill me almost end to end of the map or he is in up hill position but im around the city almost near bases? how to know if someone is cheating in war thunder?
@Billdar
@Billdar 2 месяца назад
I appreciate you doing this because I quit playing WT on weekends and in general because of the cheating.
@kodiwtf
@kodiwtf 3 месяца назад
I play on movie graphics , watching this and you explaining that ULQ doesnt change tree density makes me suspicious of how many cheaters ive ran into when I thought they were just using ULQ
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
Most competitive squadrons run ULQ for the advantage. I cant run any higher than medium - high due to my hardware
@palvelusmusic
@palvelusmusic Месяц назад
Not defending the guy, but about the rangefinder part. I never grew to use the rangefinder on tanks, I've done everything by eye and gotten surprisingly good at it.
@DJ_not_DJ
@DJ_not_DJ Месяц назад
He ranged his barrel for 750, no one who plays by feel will ever do that, they’d just aim up and shoot
@MiGLifeCrisis
@MiGLifeCrisis 16 дней назад
yeah no. people do just guess.​@@DJ_not_DJ
@dandelion4523
@dandelion4523 3 месяца назад
Yep, that's a cheater no doubt.
@mechamotioisma
@mechamotioisma 26 дней назад
Let me see if i get it. The player literally finds a way to activate the tactical view fo the replay tool in the match?
@sadiswan
@sadiswan 3 месяца назад
I see loads of cheats that flash up binos before shooting as if it absolves them of cheating like you can take in a whole screen of information in a millisecond.
@jasonz2641
@jasonz2641 3 месяца назад
They like using free look behind cover to look for enemy’s location as well. Must be their one million dollar gaming headset doing its job.
@sweezek3719
@sweezek3719 3 месяца назад
@@jasonz2641Are you new to the game dude ??? Always use free look so you can see behind the house or whatever. Also setting up sound and using decent headset gives you massive advantage!
@superborrelli98
@superborrelli98 3 месяца назад
If an enemy tank uses the smoke grenade on purpose to get me out of cover, and immediately after I get out of cover it shoots me, is this a cheater?
@WildBait
@WildBait 3 месяца назад
the game is full of hackers and I don't see the point of playing anymore. Wow every game has at least 5 or 6 hackers / I watch the replays and I'm amazed how the players look through walls and bushes.
@Paddlepawz
@Paddlepawz 3 месяца назад
Ive played quite abit of war thunder and in my experience there arent many hackers. But I play on NA severs so I don’t know about EU severs
@Krahamus
@Krahamus 3 месяца назад
Most of them are in high tiers, in the ww2 era there are barely any.
@stefanknauer7180
@stefanknauer7180 3 месяца назад
That is absolut BS mate... The game is very hard I get that but there are not multiple hackers per lobby. When I play a lot I usually find one hacker per week tops. Around the new years stuff there are usually a lot more and the craziest amount was a cheater a day.
@Boris_The_Turtle
@Boris_The_Turtle 3 месяца назад
Dude you have to be outright lying. It is impossible to tell if someone is a cheater unless it’s so blatant that the entire lobby is complaining. I have only once come across someone that was actually obviously cheating. Let alone 5 or 6 per game. You may need to up your game.
@WildBait
@WildBait 3 месяца назад
@@Boris_The_Turtle which server are you playing on?
@n1coR
@n1coR 3 месяца назад
How do you get all the otulines of tanks in replays?
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
It’s a setting you have to set a keybind for in the replays options
@colinblaas3592
@colinblaas3592 2 месяца назад
I almost never range either, i use the map squares, they say how long 1 square is, I roughly count up and gues, most of the time correct or a lil but off
@SAJJADGAMINGDARI
@SAJJADGAMINGDARI 2 месяца назад
how long is band for cheaters?
@BleedsWhenShot
@BleedsWhenShot 3 месяца назад
The video I tried to give him on the other forum was a clip of him in a Greyhound snapping to the centerline of an enemy tank out of field of vision, him going into binos for fine vertical adjustment, then firing and turret ring/gunnering the T-26.
@elmerjfapp5730
@elmerjfapp5730 17 дней назад
you can eyeball your range finder if you've shot enough rounds out of something, i don't typically use the range finder unless im shooting my KV-2 or SU-Y100
@S1su
@S1su 3 месяца назад
4:40 that shot actually is REALLY easy to range without rangefinder. The enemy the same distance away from the ”hacker” as C point, so just looking at C point’s distance ypu can easily get the distance. I do that all the time and I also look if an enemy is twice as far away from me as a point or half way, so I can just double it or split it
@thisfeatureissostupid
@thisfeatureissostupid 3 месяца назад
I agree, really easy to range because of objective, also 800m with high higher velocity gun is easy in general. this guy is still obviously cheating though, but people not needing to use a range finder is not suspicious at all
@S1su
@S1su 3 месяца назад
Agreed
@Jfefels
@Jfefels 2 месяца назад
Bro agreed his own comment
@S1su
@S1su 2 месяца назад
I think it was the guy who made this video answered to this comment before but seems like he has deleted it
@vincentalbert1009
@vincentalbert1009 2 месяца назад
Bro I only play low tier and almost Never use range finder, I just do it on instinct and it usually works 😭
@zzbudzz
@zzbudzz 26 дней назад
Could "The cheater" have spotted the tanks exhaust in some of those? Sometimes that is a dead give away.
@user-wf6sd7rj6d
@user-wf6sd7rj6d 2 месяца назад
How many times I’ve been killed while standing still and wondered how the hell did they see me
@mattagaijined3448
@mattagaijined3448 3 месяца назад
Ranging isnt a thing i do aswell, unless its a top tier tank with laser range finder. Its not hard to guess the distance
@shrillcrayfish6168
@shrillcrayfish6168 3 месяца назад
I play my account on xbox when im away and comluter when at home. I worry from time to time. I can press a on an air plane then hold left triger and it perfect tracks the plane movment. I still have to find an aim point. But it does snap to a plane once highlited.
@taureanwooley
@taureanwooley 3 месяца назад
Sad part, you do have to range if you're in an open area and can't see anyone, saw it when I was kidnapped with a tank person who found his way home. Better than than that shot again
@ozmandoz9754
@ozmandoz9754 Месяц назад
Not saying their not cheating but im a newish player now and already i have picked up ranges and pre range before certain positions. At the start of every match i set range to 100 metres or 200 metres if its a big map. Already in the past couple months ive got a good idea of ranges. I dont use range finder as a new player as it takes ages. So i just have pretty good accurate guesses. I would say up to around 800 metres i can range by sight. Past that and im pure guessing and do have spotting shots. Im console so i dont think theres a way to cheat on console, plus cheating is just lame so i have no interest. But pre ranging isnt an indication for cheating. Am i a cheater for remembering position distances from previous games?
@geyrnauch
@geyrnauch 3 месяца назад
I encounter players that kill me who act like this fairly regularly since I only have a huge number of low tier vehicles (highest ground vehicle lineup I have is 7.7) and I like 4.0 the most. Usually I have an encounter with one multiple times in a day, but then not again for a while. I've seen basically this *exact* behavior, and they're always in some random premium tank, like the Sherman III/IV, SAV 20.12.48, the German T-34, the German KV-2, the German KW I C, KV-1B, KV-1E (but less commonly for some reason), and sometimes (but rarely) something like the Italian Pz. IV G. It's really frustrating when they show up, since not only do they have a huge advantage against you and take annoying positions close to your spawn early due to their intelligence advantage, but if you do kill them they just take a B-line straight for you to revenge kill you, whether it be via a tank (often a backup of what they just used) or more commonly, a CAS aircraft. It doesn't even matter if you hide yourself well with trees; I'm fairly decent at hiding from CAS thanks to my slower playstyle, and yet they will still drop a 250kg bomb pinpointed on your tank through more vegetation than is in the diets of the vegans of the world united from 2km above you with an aircraft with NO bombsight. Usually, I get bombed by these people while they use the Bf 109 F-4, even more commonly the premium non-German one. Perhaps I do have a bit of skill issue since I don't have the most hours, but I usually average between 5 and 9 kills per game, and when these guys show up I'll get one or two if I'm lucky and we'll lose. Oh, also, another interesting behavior: They rushed the enemy spawn. In my rulebook, that is a no-no not just morally, but it's just a horrible tactical move that early in a match. It's far too easy for your cannon fire or engine noise to alert an enemy and wind up in a situation where you're swarmed by tanks you can't frontally pen, or alternatively, with a tank with too long of a reload to deal with that quantity of vehicles. My preferred way of play on Flanders like that with a similar tank (in my case, the KV-1E) is to hang around next to a rock or in the buildings on B upon securing that position. This way, you can safely shoot the sides of people on A and C, while also being able to take pot shots at light tanks on their way to any capture point, and be able to hide in hard cover if things start shooting or your cannon gets damaged.
@madmullets
@madmullets 3 месяца назад
I've ran in to this guy last week and had a very questionable experience playing against him, Thanks for bringing this clown pants to light keep up the good work.
@Immortal_BP
@Immortal_BP 25 дней назад
its pretty easy to estimate ranges but i never set a sepcific range without a range finder i just aim approximate to what i think it is and then adjust on second shot
@katyushaoverpressure888
@katyushaoverpressure888 3 месяца назад
Well the ranging could be an estimate, I am no stranger to knowing ranges but it's weird that he used sight distance control, I just aim my gun regularly.
@godofhate4167
@godofhate4167 3 месяца назад
So did he get banned? Because going to reddit to deny cheating sounds extremely sus.
@Tien-Chi
@Tien-Chi 3 месяца назад
Believe me, there are soooo many forum and reddit posts after huge ban waves of people just complaining like: ‘I’ve been playing since the game came out and spent so much money and I got banned for no reason’ etc.
@godofhate4167
@godofhate4167 3 месяца назад
@@Tien-Chi ya I've read those too, I do love copy and pasting their usernames to see if their claims of innocence is true, usually never is. But going through and verifying all these accounts is just a hindrance so I just wanted to know if he got banned outright considering war thunder rarely banned blatant cheaters anymore.
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
@@Tien-Chi 2 reddit posts i saw were people who didn't have 2fa on and their accounts got stolen and cheated on then banned. That is entirely the player's fault for not securing their account.
@DerEvie
@DerEvie 3 месяца назад
I'll be honest, looking in random directions and not using the range finder isn't hard evidence in my opinion. Theres plenty of replays of me out there where I happen to look directly at the enemy and kinda stare, it isn't because I know they are there its just because I put my mouse in a specific location and kinda scan. And the not ranging thing, I do that a lot because once you get used to maps and guns you just kinda know how far people are by looking, plenty of times I dont range find to shoot at enemies because I can get a good guestimation
@ozan1234561
@ozan1234561 3 месяца назад
I think the real evidence is how confidently he turns his back towards the enemy spawn or hills other players can peek over Unless im playing a light tank i never turn my back towards the general direction of enemy
@overheadcam
@overheadcam 3 месяца назад
Didn't even know cheating was possible in wt. Never seen one ever, or not obvious at least. Thanks for shedding light on it Also, on the ranging point, as much as he was clearly ranging at times where he shouldn't even know that his target is there, visual ranging is 100% a thing. I'm a long range destroyer main and I basically never need to range for my first shot, even up to 1200m-1400m I can visually call it 99% of the time perfectly first time, but considering the skill he displayed and him clearly not being a long range main....yeah, dubious at best. But not everyone needs to range even for longer shots
@Saxony
@Saxony 3 месяца назад
videos like these are why I rarely touch multiplayer games anymore. Botting is so rampant on the internet these days, not even for just games either.
@camaradeKC
@camaradeKC 2 месяца назад
looks like he has all the arcade functionality in RB
@Yas-ii3hu
@Yas-ii3hu Месяц назад
im up at 7.0 br for germany and I constantly get uptiered. Every time I get uptiered like twice, I just go play low br just for some copium whether its my low br american or low br germany
@Pantheon04
@Pantheon04 2 месяца назад
I almost never use rangefinder because I usually die be for it finishes so I just guess the distance and sometimes hit my mark
@user-qu4li8gz1j
@user-qu4li8gz1j День назад
Looking at the battles of players on twitch, I dare say that this game is filled with cheaters and only a group of players “promoting” this game, there is no cheater in their battles. I get into matches where there are cheaters themselves, who can see you through from the wall from a distance of more than 1 km and are unable to hear you.
@stygian85
@stygian85 2 месяца назад
To give the guy benefit of the doubt (at least for ranging) I use the mini-map grid square to range in low tier. If you look in the bottom right it tells you the scale (180/200/220/250/etc) per square and estimate based on what I'm seeing. Can't speak to his aim snapping though.
@TeutonicHamster69
@TeutonicHamster69 2 месяца назад
idk some of these clips are very close to how i play, i never use the range finder yet i always land the first shot and destroy the target from someone who has played since 2014, idk must just be me
@ExcavationNation
@ExcavationNation 13 дней назад
Dang thats my old squad.
@kennethclemons8357
@kennethclemons8357 3 месяца назад
The funny thing is I never run into cheaters because I play on console and I go on my Xbox and I turn off crossplay so that way me and my friend can get on the opposite team and kill ai then just take turns capturing points and make a lot of money and RP so I don't have to face PC players at all
@dixievfd55
@dixievfd55 3 месяца назад
You can be banned for that, too.
@kennethclemons8357
@kennethclemons8357 3 месяца назад
@@dixievfd55 I mean if it's a bannable offense they would have done something already and plus this is how we can easily do the events cuz it only takes you about an hour to an hour and a half to get to 45000 Mission score needed for the events
@spit782
@spit782 2 месяца назад
Tbh,you dont really have to rangefind,from the amount of time i play WT i judge distance by eye most of the time,but the looking directly towards enemy that is fully hidden and not spotted sure is an indicator
@VALCATTA
@VALCATTA 2 месяца назад
I never liked ground battles thus stuck to air battles. Always felt like I was being targeted too much. Also, it sucks that I can't play with higher graphics as while the foliage is nice, gives an overwhelmingly disadvantage to you. Air battles are different. I can be more aware.
@Skippyonpc
@Skippyonpc 3 месяца назад
cheating is getting so bad atm
@Lord-Hellraiser
@Lord-Hellraiser 2 месяца назад
after 300 hours of playtime i finally learn that there is a rangefinder
@thegrubhubguy638
@thegrubhubguy638 3 месяца назад
from what he has said in the squadron discord he left the squadron himself and was not removed by staff. his reason was that the squad was getting too much flak and he didnt want to taint the image.
@BBRAIN1977
@BBRAIN1977 3 месяца назад
I am starting to believe Gaijjn takes a cut from the sellers of the aimbots etc
@The411876543
@The411876543 3 месяца назад
how is he still not banned..? the video after him get banned...
@vampiretim1
@vampiretim1 3 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure I've been dealing with this at 6.0 and 7.0
@jamesizzo17
@jamesizzo17 9 дней назад
"he's starring at this" like 80 percent of my matches b4 im clapped from some god awful bullshit through a hill and building shot from a leo
@lordsinistra1473
@lordsinistra1473 2 месяца назад
BTW warthunder only renders people on the map when seen by another player so ESP won't work on a target hiding in a ravine or in a building. all player locations are serverside and people are not on the map visibly until someone is in line of sight of someone else and only for the person who is in line of sight
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 2 месяца назад
Thats not true at all. Cheaters have 100% visibility on a player at all times regardless if they aren't visible. War Thunders "extra anti cheat" of unrendering players is supposed to work based on crew skills but breaks when stuff as simple as a fence gets in the way and also breaks when player connection discrepancies are so varied.
@primalsmite2204
@primalsmite2204 3 месяца назад
for me legit frist he check spawn for new enemies 2 hiting 800 m witch t34 cannon is kinda ez
@Orodreth888
@Orodreth888 3 месяца назад
13 years back in the day of Battlefield 2142 I had to make 3 or 4 videos of me playing the game because I got banned for cheating. Fun times. Luckily you can not get banned from private servers such as those from 13 years ago anymore
@azuresstuff2363
@azuresstuff2363 3 месяца назад
guessing range without rangefinder does get easy after a while, especially for someone at a high level like this guy. And there is a couple of other parts that you can give him the benefit of the doubt for like aiming in the general direction of the asu because he was mostly just looking towards their spawn which was likely to have enemies in a way that looked like he was just making sure no enemies snuck up on him from it and just by coincidence there was an asu. Maybe he is a cheater and there are better replays showing more outrageous things but from this one Im not convinced.
@haphazrds250
@haphazrds250 2 месяца назад
Agreed, I'm not convinced and its not fair to call someone a cheater without solid facts.
@el_Contra
@el_Contra 3 месяца назад
I was very curious to see how people cheat in WT, and I was hoping to see definite proof of that in this video, but am just not seeing it... First (suspicious) thing he does is, points his view toward enemy spawn... off course there will be enemy vehicles there so that does not prove anything to me. The scanning the horizon... in some instances I don't have to turn turret to scan my front cone of view particularly at start of match, just look at the monitor, wide screen monitors helps. (tip of antenna of vehicle in motion will give out position) Then doesn't use range finder... many don't at lower br's, in many instances I know the maps and know the exact ranges and in other cases it is easier for me to look at the map see the scales and calculate that in my head. (I use range finder constantly at higher br's particularly if laser range finder is available) He shoot at the asu57 while m4a1 is visible behind it, so takes asu out (closest threat) and then immediately fires at m4, why is that suspicious?, any player that pays attention will do that. Also, was he playing with friend's in discord that maybe alerted him to presence of other tanks and ranges? Is this guy using cheats? after watching this video, I could not answer that. sorry, I don't see clear cut cheating here, coincidence at most, but not real proof to the point of focusing the anger of 3.4k subscribers towards a player based on skepticism and suspicion alone. tks.
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
Ill be doing one last video on this player then im done with it. You are more than welcome to have an opinion which is why I encourage conversations in the comments. But scanning and staring are 2 different things in replays my friend.
@el_Contra
@el_Contra 3 месяца назад
@@WTCheatShaming hello and thanks for the reply, I've subscribed since looking forward to the video.
@wintersal449
@wintersal449 3 месяца назад
I hate that cheating has gotten more and more prevalent in this game. I REALLY hate thinking someone's cheating, and it's often my last go to as a explanation of some deaths i've had but I swear it's like ever 2-3 games now there's someone that's really suspicious, sometimes it's kinda obvious.
@steelthfighter
@steelthfighter 3 месяца назад
hey... id been blowing the whistle for the past five years and gaijin simply said "there is no cheating in our game." i blew the whistle so hard the ball flew out of it and then the reed gave up. still nothing happened until just last year. it was so bad back then that you could run into at least five cheaters per match
@dadolphinplayz
@dadolphinplayz 3 месяца назад
guessing range isnt hard, its just like ranging rockets without ccip: look at the tank and see how big or small it appears compared to the range lines. With high velocity shells you have more wiggle room. You can also get range by just looking at the minimap, add a squad marker, calculate distance with Pythagoras
@oniceguard9205
@oniceguard9205 3 месяца назад
i mostly use the map to shoot them, because in low tier range finder is both innaccurate and slow AF
@Beanys728
@Beanys728 2 месяца назад
My brother in Christ, I never range find if it's within a certain distance. I just aim up and shoot because I know how the rounds behave. That's not something I'd say is evidence at all. However, the staring at targets through solid ground is kinda crazy though. But I look randomly at places to see if there's something there. Also, for the M4 could have been smoke coming up from his engine. Idk
@kevinfernando3167
@kevinfernando3167 3 месяца назад
THC playin like he’s in WOT 😅
@Sacrificed_Tiga
@Sacrificed_Tiga 3 месяца назад
i didn't even knew there are cheats in wt
@eddyreplays
@eddyreplays 3 месяца назад
I've always snubbed the best SQB squadron out there, and now I see a video where THC hosts a blatant cheater. Good thing I've dropped SQB and their squadrons; they make me cringe.
@napalm6927
@napalm6927 2 месяца назад
abusing low tier is a thing? I prefer WWII tanks so i play more tier II - III but i have some tier VII.
@primalsmite2204
@primalsmite2204 3 месяца назад
2.48 bruch its a spawn of he gona look that way i always do that when i dont see anyenemy
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
If you stare at the spawn you stare at routes from the spawn not directly at 2 players
@ThePandabearzzz
@ThePandabearzzz 14 дней назад
Hans Ruddle, last i checked this account was level 11 and blatantly using esp to shoot at vehicles he couldnt possibly see or know where people were
@budderdogofficial
@budderdogofficial 2 месяца назад
its alot more common than you think for people to look towards enemy spawn, him looking towards asu-57 is not cheats
@angryjohn0017
@angryjohn0017 2 месяца назад
Doing the lords work
@The.Drunk-Koala
@The.Drunk-Koala 3 месяца назад
I love how people still blame ULG. That myth went years ago
@Goatfer
@Goatfer 3 месяца назад
My laptop that I used to use at ULQ really was like cheating but the game won't even run on that anymore after they changed the game engine. That was a big reason they switched was to kick off the old hardware that could abuse it.
@crimzonempire4677
@crimzonempire4677 3 месяца назад
Use to be so cheesy Glad they fixed it
@Einheit101
@Einheit101 2 месяца назад
They didn't fix it, ulq still disables tessellation which is why i am using ulq myself.
@ShadowWolfeWT
@ShadowWolfeWT 3 месяца назад
​@WTCheatShaming as i stated i asked plenty times how do you have the clear view of tanks and no1 said anything for good 15min and some one said he could be using cheats to show replays so i went with it but still why use a replay that shows all the tank even if hidden why not use the sensor with out that and see if you can see any tanks also your clip he states he never saw the vehicles and if he did why turn his full side to 2 tanks that can easy kill him to focus on 2 other tanks towards the other spawn come up with something better bud, and please go watch henry video if he posts it
@sivertkind
@sivertkind 12 дней назад
I've been playing War Thunder since 2014 too and i have about 4K hours on it. A lot of the things you pointed out is completely normal. Eyeballing shots instead of rangefinding them is normal. Looking at directions where enemies are behind cover is also normal (Callouts, marks, noice). The only thing i found odd about this is how he ONLY looks in the direction of enemies. he doesnt check spots where there often are players on this map which is weird
@jeffreyr4560
@jeffreyr4560 13 дней назад
This explains a lot about many of my through the bushes and trees deaths where I’m completely out of sight. That said I never range and admittedly I suck but even sucking and never ranging generally I only need one shot to get the right range down in my head off instinct. I basically don’t see the ranging lines it’s all just “oh that was a bit low I should elevate this much” and usually that works. Regardless this guy is despicable and obviously cheating.
@kobac5282
@kobac5282 2 месяца назад
I think I remember that guy... Few days ago I was playing low BR and he was playing on the opposite team, I think he was driving American heavy tank T14... His RELOAD SPEED WAS soo fast, like 2 or 3 seconds, and he killed more than 15 tanks, close to 20 or even more, I can't remember now... But he never died... so if you ask me, That guy has to be a cheater!
@jksarmy9932
@jksarmy9932 3 месяца назад
Well in case of range finding ... If you play long enough you can guess the range right. But you if you can see nobody i wouldn't dare to give my position away... I had situations where i shot blind across the map and killed a random enemy and i was accused of cheating 😂
@ViktorL2000
@ViktorL2000 3 месяца назад
I'm shocked. The guy has 2000 frags on KV alone in just over 500 battles. And he didn’t come across a single player who asked “What the hell?!” And the worst thing is that such players are then included in the statistics on the effectiveness of tackles. Because of them, T20 is now at 6.3. Because of them, the M18 Hellcat will now receive 6.0
@BasedStreetRacer
@BasedStreetRacer Месяц назад
I legit got shot through 3 buildings in Advance to the Rhine YESTERDAY. There was no way the Panzer could see me and no weird angle shots through windows.. I didnt even think hacks like that existed anymore. I've played for almost 8 years and I didnt know how to report cheaters so I came to this video. It was the most blatant cheating i've ever seen so I wonder how many accounts he's had, I guess hosting OG CoD MW2 10th prestige lobby is karma coming back to bite in War Thunder 15 years later.
@Thunderwolf47
@Thunderwolf47 Месяц назад
You would be surprised how actual WT professional players act in game with their techniques compared to how this cheater playes. From learning key pathing points, to knowing which buildings are destructible or penetrable and so on, this David guy plays far too timidly for a 60% or a 70% let alone how his individual tank engagements act. Ive noticed cheaters are easy to detect when they play timidly or get some of the most crazy shots like you say.
@reusablestinger3164
@reusablestinger3164 2 месяца назад
i didnt think cheating was an issue in war thunder, especially since its not that popular game. i only play low i was getting sniped from 2 km away when i moved to 5 br in one shot on the move. i always find it kinda weird but i get placed against very experienced players so i thought it was normal, glad to see maybe it isnt
@user-xo3om4ye6v
@user-xo3om4ye6v 3 месяца назад
I do not see how he is cheating. I do all of these things. I stare in a general direction at people, especially if you know its a place where tanks drive out from. 90% of your accusations can be labelled as coincidental. Also if he was ranging why didnt he do it again after that. He clearly missed that shot on the m6. What if he just wanted to use scrollbar that time? I use scroll bar in low tier like this also. If you saw my gameplay then you might as well ban me.
@mic-music-
@mic-music- 3 месяца назад
Same here, looks like pretty normal gameplay. I keep my crosshair still in a random direction and use my eyes to scan the horizons. Only looks to shoot when an enemy is blatantly in sight. Also its not that hard to rangefind with your eyes up to 900+ meters. Not convinced that he's cheating.
@TheManOfMyriad
@TheManOfMyriad 3 месяца назад
Here's a simple example, usernameless person Use the Binoc camera visual: The binocs immediately snap center mass to the locked target. This happens multiple times on the replay, and the binocs are fixed and tracking. This is not normal behavior in any game, especially for aiming at targets at distance beyond audio range. When it comes to reviewing footage like this, most people overanalyze what's going on. If you just watch footage clearly, you'll eventually find something unnatural among natural.
@oniceguard9205
@oniceguard9205 3 месяца назад
​@@TheManOfMyriad i really didnt see something that off in this particular game. I dont say he is clear, but at the same time i cannot say he is cheating if i want to probe someone is cheating i go trough at least 10 or more replays even near 50 or 100, taking note of every suspicius thing the suspect made, just then i can say if someone is cheating or not (with a error margin) unless they do something stupid that really scream outloud i'm a fucking cheater pls ban me. EDIT: BTW i do not dismiss whatever the investigation on this case was made. I'm not really up to competitive warthunder and his comunity and i'm pretty sure that this is not the only one nor the first replay that has been analized (and i'm sure that WTCheatShaming has gone trought this one deeply before made the video)
@ozmandoz9754
@ozmandoz9754 Месяц назад
I pre range at certain spots. I set range to 100 metres at the start of a match. (Dont understand why thats not common practice tbh) is pre ranging frowned upon? Im a noob but im getting pretty good with ranges now that i dont use a range finder at all. I must be a cheater i guess?
@chrisg6091
@chrisg6091 Месяц назад
Agree. I see only weak evidence for the accusation. I’m the potatoist of potato players and even I know to pre range on terrain. One game I spawned in on the Berlin map in my AVRE, raised the barrel to full elevation without knowing if I had the range for it and lobbed its demolition charge in the direction of enemy spawn assuming it would be full of spawning enemy. I got lucky and got a kill. The player screamed blue murder and cheater. I got lucky on a hunch, that’s all. This channel comes very close to vigilantism which I’m uncomfortable with tbh.
@Mornomgir
@Mornomgir 2 месяца назад
He plays like he is following overlays. Its time for gajin to grab a hold of this. I been looking at a lot of replays lately and there is shady crap going on in nearly every game these days.
@admiralkun8996
@admiralkun8996 Месяц назад
They way he even aims is not natural, it’s very sporadic, and jittery rather than a smooth following of the mouse
@adamp1664
@adamp1664 3 месяца назад
Ill give you that the fact he looked at the first 2 almost directly is weird but nothing after those was sus to me. ive played for 12 years in WT i have a beta account and the whole range finder thing doesnt apply unless your new if you have played tanks especially ones you prefer at low br like this you have, almost a built in "Guesstameter" persay on ranges you just get so use to the ranges and the size of tanks in your scope you go and look at a tank for a sec "hrrrm right about there" and send it and adjust according in a fallow up shot. As for the other stuff with him seeing other players on his right there's literally like nine players on the right of him If he look to his right at any point he could have happened stance been looking directly at one he couldn't see so I didn't feel like that evidence is very compelling but the first two like I said were weird but if you also pay attention to the map it's near spawn I'm by no means condoning or saying it's normal to literally look at someone and stare at them through the terrain but it is an area where you would expect people to be and it is weird he didn't check his left at all so like I said I'm trying to be the devil's advocate and be fair at the same time but seriously after those first two I literally saw nothing that was weird or unusual to a veteran player not trying to sht on you or discredit you or nothing like that and I respect what you're trying to do cuz I fckin hate cheaters and having been in THC myself in the past they don't condone that sht, but also I don't feel like you have enough evidence in this video for any of the higher ups to take action which is why they probably ate whatever bs* story the guy gave him to explain those first two examples I'd say keep watching this guy maybe check other replays of his and find some more concrete evidence You can search by player name and just go through a couple of his games and find something blatant and report him that way and report it to Gajiggles
@raymondo6498
@raymondo6498 2 месяца назад
I have came across 2 other THC player that are 100% cheating! I dont trust that squad at all
@hesperant5380
@hesperant5380 3 месяца назад
I want to preface by saying, yeah seeing people through terrain like that is a dead give away. But some of us have improved at guestimating range.... mind you when i am wrong i am soooo wrong.
@kazaar01600
@kazaar01600 3 месяца назад
Are there players who play War Thunder without cheats?
@derthunder
@derthunder 3 месяца назад
At the moment, this player is a member of the JOINT squad, of course I informed the head of the clan, but I'm not sure that they will throw stones at him there either.
@WTCheatShaming
@WTCheatShaming 3 месяца назад
Joint is also a Russian clan so David is right at home
@seanwilson7640
@seanwilson7640 2 месяца назад
Does anyone else think or know if Gaijin is allowing cheating on accounts that spend a lot? I find almost every single questionable player is level 100.
@treeviper1700
@treeviper1700 3 месяца назад
he’s definitely not cheating, guessing the range of vehicles across the map is so easy, after playing the game long enough you will easily guess ranges, and as for the antenna behind a hill, that shits easy to seem I see them all the time, the nuclear sun reflects off of tanks and makes them bright af, they’re easy to see
@Windwalker85
@Windwalker85 Месяц назад
Haha, I remember this dude - few months ago, he killed me from one side map, while I was on completely opposite side of the map, over 2 km shot, where he had no line of sight whatsoever. Hence I was like, ok, if that is the name of the game... utterly demolished him with CAS, I deliberately picked on him - would bomb him, wait for him to respawn, then bomb him again and again. Only reason I remember it is because after the match he was malding for half an hour, in broken English, in my DMs.... 😂
@Windwalker85
@Windwalker85 Месяц назад
@davidj1-6 nibba, you been already busted so many times by so many people, you should probably crawl to a hole if you had any decency and shame in you, let alone respond 🤡
@quigglebert
@quigglebert 3 дня назад
As for not ranging, i prefer to eyeball my long range shots, to the point ove gotten pretty good at rangong without using the function, though anything with a ballistic computer is worth ranging with for my skill level
@GoGxAndrew
@GoGxAndrew 3 месяца назад
@Gaijin Entertainment Give this man a salary and Mod status.
@ReallyBillyBoggs
@ReallyBillyBoggs 2 месяца назад
one of these guys joined my buddy pretzel is here's live stream and discord and said "I'm in the THC cheater squad ;)" lol he basically only comes on to say they aren't cheaters and that they kicked the cheaters
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